Is the Black fleece jacket still authorized outerwear?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 10:44:53 -0400

Ok so when I joined back in 2011 the older soldiers had a black fleece jacket. Per DA Pam 670-1 2015 the black fleece was still authorized for field wear. Then in 2017 is says just the ECWCS gen 3 fleece jacket is authorized without specifying color. I’ve been told by multiple higher ups that is out of regs and is past it’s wear out date. Is this true? And if so can someone show me resources?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2020 11:49 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 11:49:27 -0400

You're going to have to check the HRC ALARACT library for that specific one. But, I haven't seen anyone wear that color fleece in years. But one of the key phrases you will probably run into is "UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY THE COMMANDER"

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2020 2:45 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:45:25 -0400

The black fleece is NOT the ECWCS GEN 3 Fleece, therefore it is not authorized.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 17 at 2020 3:36 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:36:56 -0400

It's authorized. Here is Army G-1's current guidance:

"The black fleece is currently authorized for wear as an outer garment unless restricted by the Commander IAW DA Pam 670-1, paragraph 4-7c. Please check with your Commander’s uniform policy (usually written at the installation level or lower in a policy letter) for restrictions due to reasons such as safety or having other issued gear more suitable for wear.
This item does not currently have a wear out date because it is an OCIE (Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment) item. However, Commanders may direct Soldiers to wear better suited OCIE-issued items in lieu of the black fleece."