SGT Private RallyPoint Member6411113<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ok so when I joined back in 2011 the older soldiers had a black fleece jacket. Per DA Pam 670-1 2015 the black fleece was still authorized for field wear. Then in 2017 is says just the ECWCS gen 3 fleece jacket is authorized without specifying color. I’ve been told by multiple higher ups that is out of regs and is past it’s wear out date. Is this true? And if so can someone show me resources?Is the Black fleece jacket still authorized outerwear?2020-10-17T10:44:53-04:00SGT Private RallyPoint Member6411113<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ok so when I joined back in 2011 the older soldiers had a black fleece jacket. Per DA Pam 670-1 2015 the black fleece was still authorized for field wear. Then in 2017 is says just the ECWCS gen 3 fleece jacket is authorized without specifying color. I’ve been told by multiple higher ups that is out of regs and is past it’s wear out date. Is this true? And if so can someone show me resources?Is the Black fleece jacket still authorized outerwear?2020-10-17T10:44:53-04:002020-10-17T10:44:53-04:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member6411305<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You're going to have to check the HRC ALARACT library for that specific one. But, I haven't seen anyone wear that color fleece in years. But one of the key phrases you will probably run into is "UNLESS OTHERWISE DIRECTED BY THE COMMANDER"Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2020 11:49 AM2020-10-17T11:49:27-04:002020-10-17T11:49:27-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member6411769<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The black fleece is NOT the ECWCS GEN 3 Fleece, therefore it is not authorized.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2020 2:45 PM2020-10-17T14:45:25-04:002020-10-17T14:45:25-04:00SFC Michael Hasbun6411897<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-517835"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image">
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<a class="fancybox" rel="0cb318cf08f30b4e6614c683787d98ec" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/517/835/for_gallery_v2/6ec29b49.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/517/835/large_v3/6ec29b49.JPG" alt="6ec29b49" /></a></div></div>It's authorized. Here is Army G-1's current guidance:<br /><br />"The black fleece is currently authorized for wear as an outer garment unless restricted by the Commander IAW DA Pam 670-1, paragraph 4-7c. Please check with your Commander’s uniform policy (usually written at the installation level or lower in a policy letter) for restrictions due to reasons such as safety or having other issued gear more suitable for wear.<br />This item does not currently have a wear out date because it is an OCIE (Organizational Clothing and Individual Equipment) item. However, Commanders may direct Soldiers to wear better suited OCIE-issued items in lieu of the black fleece."Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Oct 17 at 2020 3:36 PM2020-10-17T15:36:56-04:002020-10-17T15:36:56-04:002020-10-17T10:44:53-04:00