Posted on Mar 6, 2020
Is someone required to pass the APFT in order to be enrolled at AMEDD DCC?
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1LT (Join to see) No excuses Lieutenant, and where is it written that life has to be fair. You are not new to the military as your profile lists you as prior enlisted. You are an officer and should not be failing an APFT.
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Wow that’s pretty brutal. Did you pass the OPAT before you commissioned? I am surprised your unit gave you an APFT for record with no prior experience in the military. You are direct commissioned. DCC is the intro course where you will learn all about the army. The apft being on record is not a schoolhouse requirement for attending DCC. It also was not a requirement to pass the school and neither was the ACFT when I went in September.
Now I can understand your unit giving you a diagnostic and then if you fail not wanting to enroll you in DCC until they are sure you can pass an apft as it looks bad on them sending a soldier to DCC who is not fit enough to pass the minimum fitness standards. Still for record apft and then flagging a brand new officer who is brand new to the military? Pretty harsh in my opinion.
Now I can understand your unit giving you a diagnostic and then if you fail not wanting to enroll you in DCC until they are sure you can pass an apft as it looks bad on them sending a soldier to DCC who is not fit enough to pass the minimum fitness standards. Still for record apft and then flagging a brand new officer who is brand new to the military? Pretty harsh in my opinion.
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LTC Jason Mackay
You show up overweight or can’t pass an a APFT for an Army school they are supposed to annotate in the 1059, nastygram goes back to your owning command via every rung of the chain down to the company. Your commander must explain why his system failed. I have had school orders held as a LTC until they had a PT Card that was a go. Day before I flew from Germany to PCC at CGSC. So yeah, this is a thing
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I know each schoolhouse is different. At DCC we didn’t need an apft to attend. We took a diagnostic apft on like day 3. We took a diagnostic ACFT at the end. Neither were required to pass the course. LTC Jason Mackay
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MAJ (Join to see)
Now BOLC phase II I had to have a valid for record PT card and height weight to even register for the course and I have to have one within 6 months of the start of the course or else one will be administered once I get there and if out of compliance for height/weight or fail apft then you get sent home.
I know captains career course is even more strict. MAJ (Join to see)
I know captains career course is even more strict. MAJ (Join to see)
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LTC Jason Mackay
MAJ (Join to see) - the schools aren't all different, this DCC seems to be the outlier. This applied to BOLC when it was OBC. Record APFT on arrival, Nasty gram went to the commissioning source for AD, unit for RC. It worked that way for all PME. There were some short courses that didn't require an APFT like the UMO course, Air Assault requires one to report and as an in school APfT as an entrance requirement.
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I'm not going to give you shit...nor am I going to feed you the answer. What I am going to do is tell you that you need to seek out the most experience NCO in your unit and ask these questions. Also, I would recommend you speak with your unit commander. If you want the straight skinny answers, here is your first Army Lesson: Ask your Chain of Command for answers/guidance.
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