Is racism to blame for liberal media’s lack of coverage of murders in Chicago?

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:16:09 -0500

https://www.google.iq/amp/http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-34-shot-5-fatally-over-the-weekend-in-chicago-20171009-story,amp.html

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Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Mar 5 at 2018 11:19 AM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:19:28 -0500

I don't think so. Two reasons 1.) I don't think they (Chicago) want it in the news because that is where Obama is from and it is a "sanctuary" city. 2.) It has become old news because it is so frequent and they aren't doing anything to curb it. Just my two cents.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 5 at 2018 11:22 AM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:22:41 -0500

Chicago and the School shootings are both bloodier than Afghanistan. Then again, South Central LA was usually bloodier than Vietnam. I think the South Side of Chicago needs more attention

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 11:23 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:23:27 -0500

I don't know if racism is to blame...but racism is alive and well.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 11:23 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:23:40 -0500

Why does liberal media largely ignore the tremendous numbers of murders that occur in Chicago and many big urban areas? Im old fashion and I believe all lives matter. Why are there so few articles discussing the 3000 people murdered in Chicago every year? The recent 17 tragically killed in the school shooting has been milked for all the coverage the media could but they are so strangely silent on the three thousand dead in Chicago? Dont their lives matter? Isn’t that part of the black lives matter movement according to the media? Those dead people also had families and are of value? The country deserves to hear and answer about why they are ignored. A quick look at the data suggests that upwards of 20 percent of them may be teenagers-children. Twenty percent of 3000 is a much larger number than 17 but again , little to no coverage. Why so little coverage of them and so much about this other suburban school? Does racism make the liberal media cover one tragedy and completely gloss over the tsunami of deaths in our inner city schools? What is really happening?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 11:23 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:23:53 -0500

I would not say racism as much as it is a cover up, by those who run Chicago, being that Chicago has one of the toughest gun control laws in the country but has one of the highest gun crime rates. If it was racism only non blacks would be ignoring it, but there are high level African Americans who ignore the statistics.

Response by SPC David Willis made Mar 5 at 2018 11:24 AM

SPC David Willis — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:24:04 -0500

Not every murder can be reported on. There are thousands of crimes that happen everyday that never make the news. 15 kids being killed in a span of 5 minutes doesn't happen every day so that makes the news. Certain kidnappings (attractive usually white women) make the news. Occasionally an extraordinarily large drug bust will make it as well. Unfortunately in this day and age an individual getting murdered just isn't news because it happens all the time and therefore isn't particularly news worthy.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 5 at 2018 11:29 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:29:10 -0500

I wouldn't blame racism for anything. I blame people. Racism is merely a choice some people make to excuse bad behavior.

Response by CPT Adam P. made Mar 5 at 2018 11:29 AM

CPT Adam P. — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:29:53 -0500

Chicago does not have the highest murder rate in the US.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 11:46 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:46:14 -0500

MSG Gomez, I agree and frequently it masquerades as a person who pretends to be tolerant and loving while his intensional disregard for the value of all human life betrays him.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 11:54 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:54:06 -0500

It's not racism. It is a narrative. If events do not fit or support the liberal narrative it will be back page information.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Mar 5 at 2018 11:54 AM

CW4 Guy Butler — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:54:06 -0500

Good question, since both homicides and shootings are apparently down 22 and 28 per cent for 2018.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/385074002

Slayings, shootings down in Chicago in 1st two months of 2018

With significant decrease in violence through first two months of 2018, Chicago officials are hopeful the city is turning a corner.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 12:01 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:01:05 -0500

Black lives matter, unless they die in Chicago; no protests, no outrage in the media, no calls for gun control and no concern from hollywoods' democrat celebrities. If democrats ran the media, you'd think this would be front and center, 24/7. Oh wait, it is ran by democrats. I see a theme.

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Mar 5 at 2018 12:13 PM

LT Brad McInnis — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:13:58 -0500

It isn't racism. It is a deliberate choice by the politicians and media to cover it up, deflect or blame something else (why do you think they go crazy over the school shooting in Florida, tragedy yes, but one that plays out almost every month in Chicago) to ultimately hide the fact that Democratic choices made the problems and are doing little to fix it.

Response by SPC Matthew Tinder made Mar 5 at 2018 12:17 PM

SPC Matthew Tinder — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:17:52 -0500

Lack of honest reporting in the media seems to be rampant no matter what city or area being "covered".

Response by Susan Foster made Mar 5 at 2018 12:23 PM

Susan Foster — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:23:41 -0500

I don't think racism has anything to do with the media coverage. (When you say "liberal media" I assume you mean CNN?) It's been on Fox more, but they tend to focus on whatever POTUS says. While Chicago's murder rate is awful, it is not uniquely dangerous among U.S. cities. I believe it was 8th highest among big cities in 2016, so others had a higher rate. And in the 1990's it was significantly worse than it is now. I think there's so much to focus on, including other cities whose crime is higher, they just pick and choose what they think will lead that day. I would think the Chicago papers focus more on individual murders than national news.

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Mar 5 at 2018 12:43 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 12:43:46 -0500

I live in Illinois. It's not racism, it's liberalism. The Chicago Mayor, City Council, majority of the Illinois Legislature, many judges--most of the political class--in the Chicago area and Illinois in general are Liberal Democrats. Consequently, taxes are high, crime is high, unemployment is high, participation in social welfare programs is high, percent of children born and raised outside of marriage is high--you get the idea. Little of this is reported in the National press because the main-stream media remains very liberal. Sometimes--like today--Fox News will report something about crime in Chicago. We have a Republican Governor, but he is making very slow progress against a very deep, sticky, and nasty liberal swamp, the political birthplace of Barak H. Obama and the Rev Wright. As a point of reference, Illinois has more politicians in jail, including two former Governors, than any other state.

Response by PO1 Don Gulizia made Mar 5 at 2018 1:29 PM

PO1 Don Gulizia — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:29:35 -0500

It's not racism. It's ratings and clicks that matter to the media. (clicks/ratings = ads = $$$...that's the bottom line) Why is it bigger news when 14 kids are murdered at Parkland (once) than when 11 kids die every day from distracted driving? You mentioned Chicago, but really any big city will do...why are those gun deaths less worthy than Sandy Hook? More kids have died this winter season from the flu than from mass shootings, why isn't that bigger news. This is not to say that mass shootings are unimportant. They are tragic, but why do we let the media decide what is important?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 1:53 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 13:53:21 -0500

The Chicago machine still lives. We also have a cover-up by the NRA and lack of real weapons quality assurance. I was reading about how there is no government oversight over defective firearms that can go off and kill people. So you have corruption on both the NRA, the federal level and with the Chicago liberal machine.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 2:04 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:04:03 -0500

Not supporting the idiots in Chicago, New York and other stupid cities. I read it on the plane on my vacation a couple days ago and it totally shocked me how crappy guns are not regulated and can't be recalled. NRA, you should be ashamed of yourself! I have own multiple assault weapons in the past before I moved to Canada. I am not your typical snowflake and I am pissed off!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-02-28/how-defective-guns-became-the-only-product-that-can-t-be-recalled

How Defective Guns Became the Only Product That Can’t Be Recalled

The government won’t fix it. The NRA is silent.

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Mar 5 at 2018 2:12 PM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:12:42 -0500

I would say racism is the lack of coverage , I would say the "Agenda" is the reason, news organizations even when they were "NEW's" organizations always tended to report things that got them ratings and higher stock prices. These past few decades they follow the agenda of those in power. They tend not to report things embarrassing to their masters, that is Puppet masters. You can look back on what gets reported and what the agenda is to see how they mold the news or fabricate what they need to push the agenda. Its blatantly obvious regardless of which side you fall on politically.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 2:25 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:25:50 -0500

I would nominate the frequency in which murders occur in Chicago as to why it's not news worthy. Maybe there are other agendas and motives, but there's a certain point that people become desensitized to the information and care very little, even if it happens in their city.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Mar 5 at 2018 2:29 PM

MSG Stan Hutchison — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 14:29:35 -0500

1. There is no "cover-up" by the media or anyone else. The numbers are out there for anyone interested.
2. The problems are not simply defined nor corrected.

3. Every time there is a school shooting, you can count on the conservatives yelling about Chicago.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 3:49 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:49:49 -0500

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Response by SSG Warren Swan made Mar 5 at 2018 3:50 PM

SSG Warren Swan — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:50:56 -0500

Another day, another ignorant question just to stir the pot. Do you hear of shootings in your town from any major city outside of your own? Do you hear of them based upon political leaning? Do you hear of them in a racial standpoint? All major cities have shootings. It doesn't matter if it's in a red, blue, or purple state, they happen. Why not make the post "How can we do more to stop senseless violence in major cities"? That would make too much sense wouldn't it? Or "how can we strengthen laws to where they have an effective means of dissuading folks from committing crime"? Neither of my questions make it a racial or political football, yet can easily appeal to crappy legislators on both sides of the isle, and doesn't bring back a clearly racist law of "Three Strikes", that even Clinton himself said it ended up predominantly affecting minorities and the poor.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Mar 5 at 2018 4:16 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 16:16:55 -0500

if the MSM reported what was happening in Chicago they would have to investigate WHY. So... we have a DEEP BLUE city with some of the toughest gun laws in the country... hmm... see anything there that might make the MSM uncomfortable? you can almost smell the failure.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Mar 5 at 2018 4:58 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 16:58:17 -0500

It does not fit the agenda. Racism is a tool. To be used to divide people and culture. Racism took a turn for the worse in the 60's.
After JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcom X were murdered, welfare destroyed the Black American family. Setting up a sub-culture, an angry minority which supplied bodies to prison and caused White Americans to distrust/worry about fellow citizens.
The Democrats stay in power through lies and fear. Pandering to low information voters.
Extreme frindge groups are growing due to this agenda. The liberal media ignors the Chicago issue. Because, Democrats run the town. They will run it into the sewer. Just like Detroit.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Mar 5 at 2018 7:07 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:07:43 -0500

Son lives in Chicago area and works downtown in whatever the Sears Tower is called now. Anyhow his take is that Chicagoans are stoic towards crime in general going back to the days of the mafia running the city. Politicians are something to be ignored, or at least bought off, so it doesn't make any difference what party is in charge. Essentially, crime is the norm, not news.

Response by MSG Jay Jackson made Mar 5 at 2018 7:52 PM

MSG Jay Jackson — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 19:52:36 -0500

I am troubled by the death rate in Chicago. And at the same time I am amazed that so far no one has shot up a school in that town. But alas we have children being killed as the gangs u shoot at one another. Saw an article today on Lew Rockwell taking about shooting at funerals in Chicago also. So what do we do? I say that they loosen up the gun laws and let them settle this matter. Also let good folks defend themselves and their family. By the way if they ever do this buy casket company stock, it gonna be messy in Chitown.

Response by Maj John Bell made Mar 5 at 2018 9:14 PM

Maj John Bell — Mon, 05 Mar 2018 21:14:14 -0500

It may be racism, but I suspect it has more to do with poverty, (which admittedly affects most minorities far out of proportion to their numbers in society). It is far more interesting to watch what you don't expect; violence in middle America and among the wealthy. So that's what gets covered.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 6 at 2018 10:21 AM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 10:21:59 -0500

As others have stated it isn't Racism is Democrats covering up their complicity in the crimes. Chicago has some of the Highest gun control in the country along with CA and NY. The truth is Gun control doesn't work, more to the point gun control was created by Democrats as a way to keep guns out of the hands of freed slaves.

If you dig deep enough you could blame racism, but its in the context of the democrat party's perpetual racism. You have to know the history of the Democrats to understand how they think. Minority's are told anything and promised everything so long as they vote democrat. Sadly they refuse to see they are being lied to and punked, playing the victim works until you are the victim and you find out no one cares. Here is the real History of the Democrats, if you bother to read it ask your self if you are a Minority WHY are you voting for these people, Why are you against the NRA who is fighting for your rights?

The Democrat party was formed in 1830 by Martin Van Buren to put support behind Andrew Jackson a known slave owner and racist from the South. At his height of slave ownership he had 150 slaves, and owned an estimated 300+ over his life time. In 1832 Jackson was elected as the president of the united states he was the FIRST Democrat president as we know the party to be called. Andrew Jackson’s history included brutality towards Native Americans hunting run away slaves and Dueling. In retro spec he wasn’t a bad president having been the only one to EVER pay off the national debt. He also called for the abolishment of the Electoral College voting system. He was also the first president to invite the public to the white house for the inauguration. One could say pandering to the public opinion? This is the start of this party.

Now lets talk about Franklin Delanor Roosevelt FDR a Democrat that they all look up too. Here is a man that was defending America and was at the same time undermining it. FDR signed Presidential Executive Orders 9066 and 9102 these two orders led to the imprisonment of over 120,000 law abiding citizens of Japanese decent. Lets put this in simple terms. 120,000 AMERICAN CITIZENS were placed in concentration camps because of how they looked. There property was seized there homes destroyed and some lost there lives. When questioned about doing the same for the Germans and the Italians FDR had this to say “no collective evacuation of German and Italian aliens is contemplated at this time” and “I don’t care so much about the Italians, they are a lot of opera singers, but the Germans are different. They may be dangerous.” So he was not concerned with the White people that were Aliens to the country but he was worried about the legal Citizens who looked different. FDR went on to set back the Minority’s by appointing two known segregationist to the United States Supreme Court Jimmy Byrnes and Hugo Black.

Hugo Black a Democratic Senator from Alabama and active member of the KKK gained his fame by defending fellow KKK members under prosecution for racial murders. He is said to have told one Klan audience "I desire to impress upon you as representatives of the real Anglo-Saxon sentiment that must and will control the destinies of the stars and stripes, that I want your counsel." I know many people don’t speak the old English so let me translate this for you. “I want you to understand as White people we must control the destiny of America” in short “Whites should rule” Black supported FDR’s “New Deal” and was solid opponent of Civil Rights legislation. He was a key participant in FDR’s Court packing scandal. Though the Public and many in congress opposed Blacks nomination he still went on to the supreme court where he continued his racism most notably by authoring an opinion in favor of FDR’s Japanese’s internment in the infamous Korematsu ruling.

But this is all history right I mean these were long before our time… well then I will skip a few years ahead lets talk about Senator Robert Byrd. Here is a man that has been elected and a sitting Democrat longer than any other elected official. He served from 1953 to 2010, that’s 57 years of racism in the capital. He also was an Active Klan member even while in office. At one point while in office he wrote a letter to a Klan Imperial Wizard and had this to say "I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union" and followed with a request for assistance from them in "rebuilding the Klan in the realm" of West Virginia. Byrd led the filibuster of the Civil rights act of 1964. Filibusting to the bitter end when the minority leader a Republican named Everett Dirksen invoked cloture so the Civil Rights Act could pass. At the time Byrd was into a 14hr 13 minute filibuster. Hillary Clinton called him her Mentor... let that sink in.

How about Senator Hollings a Democrat from South Carolina. Here is a man that opposed lunch counter integration among other things. In 1961 he attended a meeting of Democrats for segregation. He is renowned for racial remarks made publicly even going so far as to create an international incident in Geneva with an African delegation. He is also the one that raised the confederate flag over the state capital of South Carolina in defiance to civil rights. This fact was never mentioned by the main stream media when the issue came up in front of George Bush during his campaign. Bush had this to say on the subject “the flag is a state issue to be decided upon by South Carolina and not the national government” In short it was the States RIGHT to make that decision and the federal government should not try and assume authority where it had non.

Representative Dick Gephardt gave several speeches to a St. Louis area hate group during his early years as a representative the Metro South Citizens Council, a now defunct white supremacist organization; he has long avoided questions about his past affiliation with this group.

Andrew Cuomo: Cuomo was Bill Clinton's former Housing Secretary and a prominent Democrat political player in New York, was tape recorded during a campaign speech that voting for his rival for the New York Democrat gubernatorial nomination Carl McCall, who is black, would create a "racial contract" between Black and Hispanic Democrats "and that can't happen."

Lee Brown: Clinton's Drug czar actively engaged in a campaign to suppress Hispanic voters from turning out.

Mary Berry has this to say on Civil rights “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them”

How about Jesse Jackson he was the featured prime time speaker at the 2000 Democrat Convention. Jackson has a history of using anti-Semitic slurs and derogatorily calling New York City “Hymietown” he has made a name for him self by riding the coat tails of M.L.K even back then he was a grand stander showing up at an interview the day after M.L.K was assassinated wearing the same shirt from the day before that had M.L.K’s blood stains on it. Many of M.L.K’s supporters voiced outrage at this act. Jesse Jackson has a well marked history of showing up after an incident and fanning the flames of hate and rhetoric even when non exist.

Another is Al Sharpton here is a man that takes Racism to the next level On November 28, 1987, Tawana Brawley, a 15-year-old African-American girl, was found smeared with feces, lying in a garbage bag, her clothing torn and burned and with various slurs and epithets written on her body in charcoal. Brawley claimed she had been assaulted and raped by six white men, some of them police officers, in the town of Wappinger, New York. Attorneys Alton H. Maddox and C. Vernon Mason joined Sharpton in support of Brawley. A grand jury was convened; after seven months of examining police and medical records, the jury determined that Brawley had fabricated her story. Sharpton, Maddox, and Mason accused the Dutchess County prosecutor, Steven Pagones, of racism and of being one of the perpetrators of the alleged abduction and rape. The three were successfully sued for slander and ordered to pay $345,000 in damages, the jury finding Sharpton liable for making seven defamatory statements about Pagones, Maddox for two, and Mason for one. Sharpton refused to pay his share of the damages. In flaming the mob during the 1991 Crown Heights race riot, where a mob shouting anti-semetic slurs and murdered an innocent Jewish man. Sharpton also incited a 1995 protest of a Jewish owned store in Harlem where protesters used several anti-semetic slurs. During the protests, a Sharpton lieutenant called the store's owner a "bloodsucker" and declared an intent to "loot the Jews." A member of the protest mob later set fire to the store, resulting in the death of seven. When asked about this in a recent interview he refused to take responsibility for his own words and actions. On May 9, 2008, the Associated Press reported that Sharpton and his businesses owed almost $1.5 million in unpaid taxes and penalties. Sharpton owed $931,000 in federal income tax and $366,000 to New York, and his for-profit company, Rev. Al Communications, owed another $176,000 to the state these are just a few of the highlights from his long career in politics and activism.

The media which has a democrat slant has painted the Democratic Party as the Anti racism party while ignoring the fact that the Republicans have a true history of supporting the minorities. During the Civil Rights movement it was the 80% Republicans that got the Civil Rights Act passed not the 40% of the Democrats that opposed it. The voting Rights Act of 1965, which was supported by 82% of House Republicans and 94% of Senate Republicans, again republicans got these passed not the democrats. Republicans are against gun control which was started by the democrats as a way to keep guns out of the hands of African Americans after the civil war. Looking at the current issues with the call for gun control it is a wonder that ALL African Americans don’t join the NRA and purchase a fire arm instead of helping to disarm them selves. How long will the minority's allow the Democrats to paint them as victims before they learn to stand up for them selves.

Truly Minority's what has the Democrat party done to help you?

Response by AA Joseph Moody made Mar 6 at 2018 10:54 AM

AA Joseph Moody — Tue, 06 Mar 2018 10:54:31 -0500

I would use the word narrative-ism more than racism for this one.