Is QMP the right or just answer for those selected that have 16 or 17 years? The past month has been rough for many senior NCOs.

I believe that it is a good thing, but only because I have met a lot of Senior Ncos that are just sticking around to collect a pay check and don't really contribute, and do not have a chance for promotion any more. I feel for the families but it isn't about them or me it is about the whats best for the Army and young blood needs to be promoted and carry on. I am a fast tracker for my MOS and that could be a downfall later, but that is up to me and my performance.

The QMP process is not without its faults. I have witnessed more than a few NCOs that passed through the process unscathed who definitely shouldn't have. I've also seen many good NCOs notified this year due to one bad NCOER in their OMPF. We all know that people are sometimes put into a unit with toxic leadership. In those cases specifically, it is unfortunate for the Soldier and their family.

Let us not forget that in the mid 90's the Army was downsized with much less emotion and care for the Soldier. Ask anyone that was around after the Gulf War. In comparison, I feel that QMP / QSP in an improvement but we aren't quite there.

Depending on the reason a soldier is being looked at for QMP could be a just reason. I was actually denied continued service and I disagree with the process of my discontinued service. It was said that I violated the buddy system in recruiting. I was accused by my former 1SG, that sexually harassed my wife a couple of months prior. I was accused of being with a female alone. The buddy system states that if you are with the opposite sex you either have to have a qualifying person present or you have to be in a qualifying public place i.e. school, restaurant, or shopping mall. The 1SG saw both people and acknowledge both people. The male applicant decided to walk to a store right across the street. Me as a senior NCO knew I couldn't be alone in my office or my GOV decided because my office was in a qualified public place (shopping mall) we would wait outside until the other applicant came back. FYI there were plenty of adults outside of this shopping mall. To make a long story short I received a gomor. Both applicants where interviewed and wrote statements on my behalf. When I asked how did I violate the policy it was said the female should've walked to the store with the male. When I showed that I followed the regulation word for word it was said that we still feel you violated the policy somehow. I don't think that's worth 21 years in the Army with never having my integrity questioned. Yet I see soldiers allowed to continue service with a DUI, multiple DUI's in a single year, being intoxicated while in a NCOES school, and adultry. I have an idea of how they are looking at packets, but something isn't right.

This is why I implore the Military to take a stand. It is time to protect each other, unless what is done is illegal. But let's stop kow-towing to those who dislike us. We need to put our feet down and resist these driveby posts mean to divide us. There are, I believe, stirrers in our midst. While I will not list names publically I am on to them and will let people know through emails.
And only to the people I know. I have noticed that certain, unverified members, showing up whenever certain topics are broached. As a Meteorologist, I do observe and keep in mind, what I have seen and I believe, we military, put our collective feet down.

So, no matter what, do not agree with the stirrers, no matter what.

I think it can be good but at the same time I think it's a "cheaper" way for the Army/DoD to get many seniors out earlier. Less retirement percentage.

Sad fact, a lot of Soldiers are being wrongfully selected for QMP. The reasons is somewhat obvious. It is being used as a retention tool and regulations are being ignored to push a hidden agenda. The awkward thing is there are numerous of Soldiers that have submitted legitimate complaints and appeals against abusive leaders. I'm sure it's pretty common to know of leaders that are selected for QMP that shed light on leaders failing to uphold regulations and standards. The quickest way to get QMP'd is to report wrong doing of leaders especially those in groups like the Freemasons, Knights of Columbus, or Greek frats/sorority. Fact, in a television news segment a comment was made that states we can not track the Soldiers that are being QMP'd in my (Maury's voice).. that was a lie. If anyone has a clue on how EMILPO works they know for a fact you can not only verify the number of Soldiers selected for QMP you also can filter them by race which will possibly look very awkward. If the Soldiers that failed height and weight and PT test were handled properly we wouldn't have to resort to using a retention tool that's not a retention tool.

I think not.

I had read an article a few years back about QMP, there was this captain who received his notice after redeploying he was on orders and his household goods were already packed up and sent, along with family, and the ARMY said sorry thanks for serving but we don't need you anymore, only gave him 4 days to out process, QMP is just a fancy acronym for downsizing instead of letting them go a few more years , and get retirement pay. It's not really a person thing it's about budgets

Ive read that it is a good tool, etc. The entire Army system in my opinion is a great tool, even better, it's a perfect system, but even the greatest tools and best systems if not used properly or administered correctly it's worthless. we know that E-8-E9, CW4-CW5, and O5 and above do nothing especially during deployments but yet get promoted off it and receive awards un-merited, the burden of doing a lot falls on a few. That few after much sacrifice are the ones being crucified by these QMP. O4 and below are the victims of this so called "good tool", OER and NCOER are a good tool not used correctly, the height and weight standards is a great tool but not used properly, reduction boards are a great tool rarely used. QMP these CW4 and CW5 that do no work or PT, an NCO can do their meetings, QMP those MSG and SGM that have 25-35 years of service, but are no longer serving, the current QMP and how its being used and who are the main target is not the right answer. Only the 2% that serves and sacrifice for our nation isn't worthy of a second chance. Discusting.

Fairness is never a consideration. Always remember the Army is huge, and is designed to replace you, me, and everyone else. QSP, QMP, SERB etc are all tools used to reduce excess personal levels to authorized levels. This current downsizing effort has been going on since 2010, and has been rough for senior NCOs and many officers too.

The Army ebbs and flows with the situation around the world. I saw the Army go from over 780k, after Desert Storm, to around 480k, and we stayed there til 911. We ramped up to over 575k, and now we are the downside again.....

In 1940 the Army was around 270k, by 1945 it was over 8.6 Million... By 1950... 500k...

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