Is It Really "Radical Islam"?

COL Ted Mc — Sun, 18 Jan 2015 13:58:19 -0500

From "The Washington Times"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/13/white-house-inaccurate-use-phrase-radical-islam-ta/

White House: Inaccurate to use phrase ‘radical Islam’ to talk about terrorists

The White House tried to explain Tuesday why it has refused to use the term “radical Islam” in describing the Islamist terrorists responsible for last week’s Paris attacks and other acts of violence across the globe.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said the administration doesn’t want to legitimize those terrorists or the “warped” view of Islam they hold. Also, Mr. Earnest said, the phrase “radical Islam” simply is not an accurate way to describe the enemies of the U.S., France and other nations across the globe.

[EDITORIAL COMMENT:- Considering what the word "radical" actually means (not what the popular press thinks it means and not what "the natural governing class" keeps on telling you it means) I don't disagree with the US government's (and Mr. Obama's) decision not to "legitimize" people like ISIS and Boko Harum by calling them what they are rather than what their PR flacks want you to think they are. These (and similar) groups are NOT "religious reformers" they are murderous sociopaths and the sooner that people start calling them by the correct names then the sooner their gloss will vanish.]

White House: Inaccurate to use phrase ‘radical Islam’ to talk about terrorists

The White House tried to explain Tuesday why it has refused to use the term “radical Islam” in describing the Islamist terrorists responsible for last week’s Paris attacks and other acts of violence across the globe.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jan 18 at 2015 2:57 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:57:19 -0500

COL Ted Mc Interesting argument of how to incorporate IO into the campaign. Given that we've already committed to a "global war on terror" maybe flatly calling anyone willing to kill groups of civilians to inspire fear in order to leverage political decisions should just be called 'terrorists.' Regardless of any other trappings.

Response by CW5 Jim Steddum made Jan 18 at 2015 3:51 PM

CW5 Jim Steddum — Sun, 18 Jan 2015 15:51:12 -0500

I am not sure the difference between radical islam and islamist terrorist.

I don't care what we call it. Calling it like it is just seems to make sense to me. These terrorists get their ideology from recognized islamic leaders. Whether it is true islam or not, does it really matter? They think it is real and the are prepared to kill and die for it.

If it is not true islam, why are the islamic leaders of the world silent, or very nearly silent (words not action), on the matter?

The vast majority of muslims are decent people trying to live in a difficult world with a significant lack of spiritual leadership.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 18 at 2015 9:14 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Jan 2015 21:14:59 -0500

Good point, sir. Whether we call them terrorists, Islamic terrorists, Islamic extremists, inhuman murderous sociopathic scum ... whatever ... bottom line is they're dirt bags who are bastardizing Islam, their religion, to justify the murders they carry out.

I see it as being politically correct when we don't use some form of the word Islam in their description, because they are doing their evil deeds in the name of Islam. But, I admit I could be wrong about that. They're murderers. That much is certain.

Response by SGT Steven Montgomery made Jan 18 at 2015 10:38 PM

SGT Steven Montgomery — Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:38:27 -0500

Yes it is and if anyone can't see that then they are blind to the things going on in our world. Sure there are other types of terrorism going on in our world today but when the shooters/terrorists invoke islam and that they came from and were financed by known islamist terrorist people/areas then how could you not see it??? I don't think you're legimitimatizing them by calling a spade a spade!!!!! Send our Gitmo detainees back to Yemen, what a joke!!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2015 2:11 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:11:53 -0400

COL Ted Mc and CW5 Private RallyPoint Member I agree they are THUGS who use and twist the word Islam to further their own goals of gaining power and becoming wealthy. It is a positive step to not give them legitimacy by using terms which reinforce them.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Sep 11 at 2015 2:14 PM

SCPO David Lockwood — Fri, 11 Sep 2015 14:14:53 -0400

A bunch of thugs that have twisted the Quran and the muslim religion to suite their needs.

Response by SFC Pete Kain made Dec 12 at 2015 9:34 PM

SFC Pete Kain — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:34:47 -0500

Sorry to the apologists (snicker) But the followers of islam are a cult. And a murderous one at that. Need proof? Read their book and look at history. Sheer numbers do not make them legitimate or right.

Response by SPC Charles Griffith made Dec 12 at 2015 10:53 PM

SPC Charles Griffith — Sat, 12 Dec 2015 22:53:10 -0500

I have to agree with Obama (FUCK I HATE THAT) but there is nothing Radical about them. The muslim islam culture IS Radical their Ideas are Radical it's in their manuals all you have to do is read them. But can we please stop calling this wacked CULTURE a Religion.

Response by SFC Pete Kain made Dec 14 at 2015 2:50 PM

SFC Pete Kain — Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:50:01 -0500

Call it what you will, all I see is a murderous cult and the difference between a terrorist and a moderate is the timing and the size of their balls.
Just because there are so many of them does not make them legitimate or right.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 16 at 2015 5:54 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:54:49 -0500

It's based on a literal interpretation of religious texts without accounting for context. If you applied the same logic to the Bible you would believe that mixing cotton with another fabric was a sin, that women were subservient to men and that gay people should be killed. If someone insisted on a literal interpretation of the Bible and used that to justify terror... would they be a Radical Christian?

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 20 at 2015 2:44 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 Dec 2015 14:44:15 -0500

Sir, I don't care what we call them, as long as we eliminate the very real threat.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Dec 20 at 2015 5:31 PM

TSgt Kenneth Ellis — Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:31:28 -0500

Maybe he should just tag them with Orthodox instead.

Response by CW2 Ernest Krutzsch made Dec 23 at 2015 8:41 AM

CW2 Ernest Krutzsch — Wed, 23 Dec 2015 08:41:24 -0500

I think that, MAYBE, if you called it Islamic terrorism, and the government called it that, that the moderates would be forced into taking their religion back. If the moderates truly believe that this is just a radical faction of Islam. they need to reclaim their religion and prove to the rest of the world that this is an anomaly, until that happens, Islam will forever be associate with terrorism