Is it possible to acheive Expert Marksmanship in BCT with cross eye dominance?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:41:20 -0500

Happy Thanksgiving y'all. I haven't seriously shot in a couple years now (having babies and going to school tends to take a lot of time) but I used to a lot. I didn't realize until about a year ago that I am left eye dominant, but right handed. My goal through BCT and AIT is to be the best version of myself. Will it be enough to trust that the DS will teach me adequately? Is there anything I can do now to help myself? I've been dodging invitations to go shooting just so I don't reiterate any bad habits I, but I'm still concerned. Help, please!

Response by Maj Kim Patterson made Nov 28 at 2019 10:44 AM

Maj Kim Patterson — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:44:01 -0500

SPC Private RallyPoint Member its possible. Many shooters close one eye when they shoot. Find a local rifle range and shoot daily. Make sure the weapon has been sighted properly

Response by SSgt Joe Bromley made Nov 28 at 2019 10:46 AM

SSgt Joe Bromley — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 10:46:03 -0500

I am cross eye dominant and achieved expert marksmanship (in the USAF) without any special practice. Follow your DS instructions and remember that you are at your most stable with empty lungs.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Nov 28 at 2019 11:00 AM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:00:02 -0500

It is entirely possible. It is more difficult, but some things in life are. Adapt, improvise, overcome.

It WILL be helpful, though, having already identified a problem, that you communicate this to your Drill as soon as it is relevant. It is actually more common than you think, and your DS should be able to appropriately give guidance regardless of the cross dominance.

Response by Lt Col Charlie Brown made Nov 28 at 2019 11:38 AM

Lt Col Charlie Brown — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:38:35 -0500

Definitely. I did it

Response by SGT Steve McFarland made Nov 28 at 2019 11:53 AM

SGT Steve McFarland — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 11:53:20 -0500

I am also cross-eye-dominant, right-handed but left-eyed, but I have no useful vision with my right eye. I shoot a pistol with my right hand, but I have to shoot a rifle left-handed. It is all a matter of training.

Response by CPL Douglas Chrysler made Nov 28 at 2019 12:25 PM

CPL Douglas Chrysler — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 12:25:03 -0500

Get in touch with a local gun club and find out if any NRA instructions are available in your community. There's a gun shop in my city that offers shooting and safety courses right at their site. Police, Air Force people, National Guardsmen, etc all go there for extra practice.
Since you are experienced, maybe just a couple tips will get you straight with it.

Response by LT Brad McInnis made Nov 28 at 2019 2:20 PM

LT Brad McInnis — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 14:20:08 -0500

I am left yet, right hand dominant. Never had a problem. Just practice before hand.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2019 6:36 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:36:28 -0500

I have seen it done, I was NCOIC of a qualification range for two years, I can also say if you are familiar with shooting you can learn to shoot left handed, I did it in my spare time just to see if I could do it, and my best score shooting left handed was 32 out of 40 on pop ups

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2019 6:51 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:51:52 -0500

Yes. Just let your DI know the issue. They will work with you. Just might take some extra practice.

Response by CPT Daniel Cox made Nov 29 at 2019 3:59 AM

CPT Daniel Cox — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:59:50 -0500

I did it as a Private and once I found out what the problem was I continued to qualify Expert with Pistol, M-16, and M-60 Machine Gun. When you are zeroing your weapon you can either close your left eye and fire with the right eye open so you have a "straight shot" down the barrel or close your right eye and learn to compensate. My best advice to you is to go out shooting now and learn which way works best for you.

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Nov 29 at 2019 12:27 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:27:00 -0500

SPC Private RallyPoint Member Walking proof. Right handed, left eye dominant. You have to make up your mind quick. Do you force yourself to shoot left handed, or force your self to go with the weaker eye? Experienced NCOs told me that what ever you can achieve a steady hold, good body position, good trigger squeeze, and consistent sight picture is what you do. They can adjust your sights to make it work.

I tried shooting left handed....feels backwards. So I shoot right handed with my weaker eye. Exception is pistol. With practice I shoot well with pistol aiming with my left eye, both law enforcement tables and military tables.

The world is essentially right handed. The brass ejects into you, although the M16A2 and M4 eject forward and right. So you don't have to worry about hot brass down the front of your IBA. When my Dad went to basic training in 1968 they quarantined all the lefties. Buttoned the top button on the fatigues and put them all on one end of the firing line. A left handed drill sergeant worked with them to ensure they qualified. The original M16 ejected right but could flip hot brass down your shirt.

Trust in the training. Civilian shooting has little to do with military qualification tables between distances, timed courses and mandatory firing positions. You'll be shooting one type of ammunition. You'll be using adjustable iron sights. I don't think optics are usedmin IET. You may be issued an optic at your unit.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2019 5:06 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 30 Nov 2019 05:06:58 -0500

I did it but not until after basic training. My trick was to close my dominant eye just long enough to gain focus from my non dominant eye. Other's have said they fired from their non dominant hand but that's not the method I used. Good Luck.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2019 8:19 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Dec 2019 20:19:26 -0500

Yes. As we transition to using optics as the dominant aiming device, this will become less of an issue. I am also cross-eyed dominant. I struggled with qualifying early in my military career. Once I understood that I was cross-eyed dominant and how to account for it I was able to do quite well with marksmanship. I'm currently on the Army reserve marksmanship team where I was able to earn the presents 100 tab and distinguished riflemans badge. I would highly recommend learning to shoot with your dominant eye. It does feel awkward at first, but most people quickly adapt. Learning to be ambidextrous helps substantially with the development of later marksmanship skills.