Is it possible the Taliban is using 'suicide shooters' to draw air support onto innocent civilian targets as part of the propaganda war? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-62872"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Is+it+possible+the+Taliban+is+using+%27suicide+shooters%27+to+draw+air+support+onto+innocent+civilian+targets+as+part+of+the+propaganda+war%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIs it possible the Taliban is using &#39;suicide shooters&#39; to draw air support onto innocent civilian targets as part of the propaganda war?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="add5807ca6f6dcb2d9335e6b7d50162a" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/062/872/for_gallery_v2/ba394ea8.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/062/872/large_v3/ba394ea8.jpg" alt="Ba394ea8" /></a></div></div>The Pentagon said Monday that the weekend airstrike that killed 22 people inside a northern Afghanistan medical clinic was requested by Afghan forces -- who reported being under attack by Taliban fighters -- and not U.S. forces.<br />“The Afghans advised that they were taking fire,” Gen. John Campbell told reporters at the Pentagon, in a hastily called press conference to correct the record.<br />“An airstrike was then called to eliminate the Taliban threat and several civilians were accidentally struck. This is different from the initial reports, which indicated that U.S. forces were threatened and that the airstrike was called on their behalf."<br />However, the revised account does not clarify whether the clinic was targeted in error or whether other mistakes may have been made by U.S. forces.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/024/348/qrc/100515_ss_hospital.jpg?1444100884"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws">US military says Afghan forces, not US, requested airstrike that killed 22 in hospital</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Pentagon said Monday that the weekend air strike that killed 22 people inside a northern Afghanistan medical clinic was requested by Afghan forces who reported being under attack by Taliban fighters, not U.S. forces.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Mon, 05 Oct 2015 23:15:54 -0400 Is it possible the Taliban is using 'suicide shooters' to draw air support onto innocent civilian targets as part of the propaganda war? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-62872"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Is+it+possible+the+Taliban+is+using+%27suicide+shooters%27+to+draw+air+support+onto+innocent+civilian+targets+as+part+of+the+propaganda+war%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fis-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIs it possible the Taliban is using &#39;suicide shooters&#39; to draw air support onto innocent civilian targets as part of the propaganda war?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="727637b8a311ebd06d117261f453ce07" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/062/872/for_gallery_v2/ba394ea8.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/062/872/large_v3/ba394ea8.jpg" alt="Ba394ea8" /></a></div></div>The Pentagon said Monday that the weekend airstrike that killed 22 people inside a northern Afghanistan medical clinic was requested by Afghan forces -- who reported being under attack by Taliban fighters -- and not U.S. forces.<br />“The Afghans advised that they were taking fire,” Gen. John Campbell told reporters at the Pentagon, in a hastily called press conference to correct the record.<br />“An airstrike was then called to eliminate the Taliban threat and several civilians were accidentally struck. This is different from the initial reports, which indicated that U.S. forces were threatened and that the airstrike was called on their behalf."<br />However, the revised account does not clarify whether the clinic was targeted in error or whether other mistakes may have been made by U.S. forces.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws">http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/024/348/qrc/100515_ss_hospital.jpg?1444100884"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/05/us-military-says-afghan-forces-not-us-requested-airstrike-that-killed-22-in/?intcmp=hplnws">US military says Afghan forces, not US, requested airstrike that killed 22 in hospital</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The Pentagon said Monday that the weekend air strike that killed 22 people inside a northern Afghanistan medical clinic was requested by Afghan forces who reported being under attack by Taliban fighters, not U.S. forces.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> CPO Andy Carrillo, MS Mon, 05 Oct 2015 23:15:54 -0400 2015-10-05T23:15:54-04:00 Response by COL Charles Williams made Oct 5 at 2015 11:29 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1019303&urlhash=1019303 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, of course... Our enemies... know what rules we have to follow, they know our values, and they use them against us. COL Charles Williams Mon, 05 Oct 2015 23:29:33 -0400 2015-10-05T23:29:33-04:00 Response by SFC Mark Merino made Oct 6 at 2015 12:21 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1019375&urlhash=1019375 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The jagoffs had their toddlers stopping convoys and running into the street to see if they could stop us to kill us. I see no difference. From what I picked up, the Afghan boots on the ground called in the mission (according to the head American honcho on the ground there). That being the case, this certainly isn't the first or the last time an FNG called in the rain using the wrong grids. Either way, it sucks for those on the ground, it's a major PR victory for the boy rapers, and it is business as usual in the am. SFC Mark Merino Tue, 06 Oct 2015 00:21:40 -0400 2015-10-06T00:21:40-04:00 Response by SSgt David Tedrow made Oct 6 at 2015 12:56 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1019421&urlhash=1019421 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Anything is possible when dealing with the Taliban. They would do anything to win and make the US look like the bad guys. SSgt David Tedrow Tue, 06 Oct 2015 00:56:23 -0400 2015-10-06T00:56:23-04:00 Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Oct 6 at 2015 12:57 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1019422&urlhash=1019422 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Of Course Oldest trick in the Book. Fire from a Position that you know if they do return fire you are going to get some awesome Propaganda and PR for your cause. PO1 William "Chip" Nagel Tue, 06 Oct 2015 00:57:34 -0400 2015-10-06T00:57:34-04:00 Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 6 at 2015 2:06 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1020913&urlhash=1020913 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is indeed possible, but the fact remains that the US AC-130 fired upon a protected target - a hospital. That is only a valid military target in very unique circumstances.<br />If they were smart enough to emplace the "bait", we were stupid enough to take it.<br /><br />The facts are not all out yet, but this one looks pretty bad. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 06 Oct 2015 14:06:35 -0400 2015-10-06T14:06:35-04:00 Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Oct 6 at 2015 2:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/is-it-possible-the-taliban-is-using-suicide-shooters-to-draw-air-support-onto-innocent-civilian-targets-as-part-of-the-propaganda-war?n=1020924&urlhash=1020924 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm guessing in this case, that's not what happened. I'd be willing to put money on this being either betrayal or cowardice. In either case, we sent a freaking AC-130 to attack a target we hadn't personally confirmed...I don't even want to think about that. SGT Jeremiah B. Tue, 06 Oct 2015 14:09:00 -0400 2015-10-06T14:09:00-04:00 2015-10-05T23:15:54-04:00