Is it considered fraternization for an AD E-5 and a Reserve E-3 to be in a relationship that pre-dates the E-3 joining?

2017-12-30T19:44:56-05:00

Long story short, I'm an E-5 in the active duty army component. I'm seeing someone who is an E-3 in the reserves, BUT the relationship was pre-existing prior to SM enlistment and we do not work within the same organization. Is this considered fraternization according to the updated AR 600-20, This was the only thing I could pull up in relation to.

AR 600-20, 4-14 c. (2)\ (d) fraternization rules do not apply to:

(d) Personal relationships between members of the RA and members of the National Guard or Army Reserve when the relationship primarily exists due to civilian association and the RC member is not on AD (other than AT), on FTNGD (other than AT), or serving as a dual status military technician."

TIA!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 2:09 AM

2017-12-31T02:09:35-05:00

Sounds fine to me. You're not in a position of authority over the Soldier, you're in separate units not to mention separate Components. I would check with Legal to be 100% though. Something I would bring up in the questioning is if she ends up on the Reserve equivalent of FTNGD or as a Tech would you be allowed to continue your relationship due to the way section (d) is worded.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2017 9:17 PM

2017-12-31T21:17:12-05:00

Talk to your JAG officer

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 17 at 2018 7:30 PM

2018-01-17T19:30:57-05:00

Reserves are not subject to UCMJ while not at drill. You are fine

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2024 9:52 AM

2024-02-13T09:52:12-05:00

Are you in the same unit? Probably not, so no one cares. It only matters if there is a leadership, subordinate relationship.