Is it authorized to make a Soldier take a record APFT in OCP and boots?

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:34:32 -0400

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made Aug 26 at 2019 9:43 PM

CW4 Craig Urban — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 21:43:58 -0400

You have to comply with the book

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2019 12:10 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 00:10:50 -0400

Are you sure this is for a record APFT maam? What is the context behind this. Training in OCPs/Boots (including diagnostic APFTs) I have heard of many times, but not *forcing* a Soldier "for record" despite what some are referencing below from FM 7-22, as it does not pass the common sense test. That same manual also states that the IPFU will be the uniform for it and the wear of it can be found in AR 670-1.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2019 2:41 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 02:41:27 -0400

Did everyone else do it in OCP's/Boots AND for record?
If not, why? / if yes, WHY?

Is that SM being singled-out or hazed for a certain reason?

Sounds extremely strange

Response by SGT Chris Stephens made Aug 27 at 2019 9:23 AM

SGT Chris Stephens — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 09:23:00 -0400

To be honest, an officer that has their unit take a record APFT in OCP and boots will immediately alienate their soldiers and lose their respect. There are no issues doing this for a diagnostic, but when it comes to enlisted personnel, you're messing with promotion points and boards when you do this for a record. Remember when it comes to promotions, they're put up against all soldiers in their MOS and not just the soldiers in their unit.

For me, I was able to ace the run and situps when I was in, and do pretty good on the pushups. Had I had to do my run in boots, my two-mile time would've been at least 2-3 minutes slower.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2019 11:55 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:55:03 -0400

FM 7-22, Appendix A, A-5: Any piece of clothing not prescribed as a component of the IPFU, ACU, or commander authorized civilian attire is not permitted for wear during the APFT". OCPs are not ACUs therefore technically not permitted. I haven't been able to find an updated FM 7-22 where they replaced ACU with OCP in the verbiage. Again, technically, since they pushed the wearout date on ACUs until OCT (IIRC) you could make the soldier take the APFT in ACUs and boots.

Response by SSG George Holtje made Apr 22 at 2020 8:32 PM

SSG George Holtje — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 20:32:04 -0400

NO!!!!!!
Run cannot be done in boots!!!!