Is Getting a GOMAR as lower enlisted a career death sentence?

2020-05-15T12:51:51-04:00

With the strength of the military being so low, would it not behoove the Army to reasses GOMARS?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2020 1:00 PM

2020-05-15T13:00:51-04:00

I think it depends on the reason/severity for getting one. I know a CPT that received one as a SSG. Still managed to pick up SFC and then get commissioned.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2020 1:03 PM

2020-05-15T13:03:31-04:00

The strength of the military isn't low, it is exactly what it's supposed to be. The Army has no issue retaining its senior enlisted.

A GOMOR won't stop a Soldier from reaching retirement, but it can prevent them from reaching senior enlisted ranks. The Army doesn't have any trouble filling it senior enlisted ranks, otherwise everyone would be promoted at their first look

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2020 1:17 PM

2020-05-15T13:17:58-04:00

I honestly think the Army needs to dish out MORE UCMJ and NJP. So much crap is swept under the rug. We have barely anyone on extra duty that I've seen, so now the endless mundane taskings can't be pawned off on the extra duty and instead gets in the way of actually training.
I feel that the Officers don't want to be seen as having Soldiers "out of control", which would be viewed by pushing a bunch of paperwork to higher about "problem children".
Small picture - I won't get ACOM on my OER if I show I have a screw up
Big picture - it punishes the crap Soldiers and allows the good ones to progress and actually train, utilizing the program in place for just that purpose, thereby making the entire unit better which makes the Officer look better.

Far too often we see the proper way ignored and some other thing used.
Fat soldier - do PT twice a day and we'll illegally flag you but not send you to the dietitian and do monthly weigh ins
Soldier Fs up bad - we'll just make 2 NCOs constantly watch him and interrupt their ability to train the other Soldiers instead of just giving the GOMOR/Art 15/what have you and taking their pay.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2020 10:01 PM

2020-05-15T22:01:29-04:00

I got a GOMOR my first year in the Army, during the early 90s draw down, and made E7 in 8 years, for E1-E4, it is not a career death sentence.