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Hello,
I am a SGT in Korea. I am a 92 Foxtrot. I do qualify for everything score wise.My MOS is extremely over-strength and I want to ensure whatever I choose, it is best for me. I have some general questions.
1) If i switch to Recruiter, does my MOS switch, or am I still going to be stuck a 92 Fox? which is maxed points for E-6
2)How soon would I be able to switch over to Recruiter if/once I passed the Recruiter school?
3) Is there a lot of room to get promoted? I looked at the last 4 months of cutoff scores, and it was 798.
I really would love to hear the Pros and Cons of becoming a recruiter. My main goal is to get out of the Fuel word. The other option I am considering is 35 Golf, Counter Intelligence Analyst. Which is better? Thanks
I am a SGT in Korea. I am a 92 Foxtrot. I do qualify for everything score wise.My MOS is extremely over-strength and I want to ensure whatever I choose, it is best for me. I have some general questions.
1) If i switch to Recruiter, does my MOS switch, or am I still going to be stuck a 92 Fox? which is maxed points for E-6
2)How soon would I be able to switch over to Recruiter if/once I passed the Recruiter school?
3) Is there a lot of room to get promoted? I looked at the last 4 months of cutoff scores, and it was 798.
I really would love to hear the Pros and Cons of becoming a recruiter. My main goal is to get out of the Fuel word. The other option I am considering is 35 Golf, Counter Intelligence Analyst. Which is better? Thanks
79R: Recruiter
Army Recruiter Course (79R)
Army
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I just saw your post. Sorry about that. I am currently a recruiter in Warner Robins, GA. You will be competing in your current MOS for SSG like I am (25Q) until you convert. The pros generally are you won't be stuck at E5 for long, you can get schools you need in order to get promotion points (ALC, Airborne, Air Assault), and your NCOER should be substantiated quite easily based on the job you are doing. There are many challenges, and it can be difficult some days. But I, being a positive person, consider those to be challenges that I can overcome. I have been deployed to Iraq 3 times and Afghanistan once, and recruiting is far more challenging. I am currently a Future Soldier Leader, meaning those who have enlisted and are awaiting basic training, I run the program for them to get ready for basic. The scores have been 798 for 79R, but that won't last long because a basic recruiter is a SSG slot. You will receive an email after one year asking if you would like to convert to full time 79R. You can start your conversion packet then, but it won't be processed for 18 months. I currently have been recruiting for 11 months, so I don't have the most experience with it but I do have some of the information you were requesting. I hope this is helpful to your decision.
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SGT (Join to see)
Excellent SGT , and thanks for the feedback. I am trying to decide between 79R and 35G (intelligence). I want a good career more then I want a good job. I want to focus on the long haul , and I aim for something transferable on the outside. I am told 35G transfers amazingly, and that 79R is good also. But I wonder if civilians would really want me to market there business just because I was a recruiter. Hard choice
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I've been waiting for someone who may have more current info to chime in, but since you've gotten nothing else, I'll give you what I know.
If you apply for recruiting you will be a 'detailed recruiter' for your first three years, you will maintain your MOS and compete for promotion within your current MOS. As you near the end of your detail period, IF you have been successful, you may be given the opportunity to convert to a professional recruiter (79R).
As of the time I retired (2006), promotions were fairly healthy for recruiters, not sure if that is still true or not.
There are many challenges to being in recruiting, to include being separated from military installations. While this sounds great to some, consider that you may need to rely on Tricare for medical, you won't have personnel and finance support readily available or PX / Commissary. It can create challenges.
Hopefully a current recruiter can come on board and give some additional help.
If you apply for recruiting you will be a 'detailed recruiter' for your first three years, you will maintain your MOS and compete for promotion within your current MOS. As you near the end of your detail period, IF you have been successful, you may be given the opportunity to convert to a professional recruiter (79R).
As of the time I retired (2006), promotions were fairly healthy for recruiters, not sure if that is still true or not.
There are many challenges to being in recruiting, to include being separated from military installations. While this sounds great to some, consider that you may need to rely on Tricare for medical, you won't have personnel and finance support readily available or PX / Commissary. It can create challenges.
Hopefully a current recruiter can come on board and give some additional help.
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CPT Aaron Rogers
Having been a Recruiter, I have to respectfully disagree. I saw several new Recruiters that were plucked from the active duty ranks because they were in the top 10% of their chosen MOS. While many are excellent Tankers, Cavalrymen, Aircraft Mechanics, or Infantrymen, that does not mean that they can effectively relate to todays 17-20 something civilian.
I saw a lot of good young soldiers have their careers marred and motivation deflated while working their butts off to get recruits. They put hundreds of hours in, they did the cold calls, the face to face time, they put people in the funnel, but were just not getting recruits (granted we were in Ann Arbor, MI; may as well have been Berkeley, CA at the time).
These Recruiters were GOOD SOLDIERS, but they were not the combination of educator/salesperson/cheerleader needed today, they were honest and told the kids what the military had done for them and how important it was to their lives, but a combination of the political atmosphere and the financial wellness of the area created a challenge that many were not able to overcome.
Don't get me wrong, there were very successful Recruiters that operated there, but it took a certain kind of soldier. To me, Recruiting was it's own kind of Special Ops team. The mental, emotional, and familial toll exacted from our Recruiters can be debilitating for some (washed out) while others thrive in it.
I do not think all are made for this career field, but for some this is what they were made for, and they revel in each recruit. The difference they make in our young adults is tangible to all.
Much like the clergy, you are either called to serve, or you are not. I think all soldiers could be successful in the right city, the right state, the right time. Not all are assigned as so.
All this to say: You can be a Damn Fine Soldier and a horrible recruiter, conversely, I have met Damn Fine Recruiters that were some of the best Soldiers I've ever known. The two are linked, but a recruiter that is in his first three years, should not have his recruiting efforts and results weighed against his/her career in their MOS field.
I was a good recruiter, got my Gold Badge to show it. I wore it proudly the rest of my career, because while everyone looked on it as just another award, I viewed as equal to my two combat patches and my CAB I earned, because my years in Recruiting were just as challenging and rewarding as my tours in Baghdad during OIF and Desert Storm.
I saw a lot of good young soldiers have their careers marred and motivation deflated while working their butts off to get recruits. They put hundreds of hours in, they did the cold calls, the face to face time, they put people in the funnel, but were just not getting recruits (granted we were in Ann Arbor, MI; may as well have been Berkeley, CA at the time).
These Recruiters were GOOD SOLDIERS, but they were not the combination of educator/salesperson/cheerleader needed today, they were honest and told the kids what the military had done for them and how important it was to their lives, but a combination of the political atmosphere and the financial wellness of the area created a challenge that many were not able to overcome.
Don't get me wrong, there were very successful Recruiters that operated there, but it took a certain kind of soldier. To me, Recruiting was it's own kind of Special Ops team. The mental, emotional, and familial toll exacted from our Recruiters can be debilitating for some (washed out) while others thrive in it.
I do not think all are made for this career field, but for some this is what they were made for, and they revel in each recruit. The difference they make in our young adults is tangible to all.
Much like the clergy, you are either called to serve, or you are not. I think all soldiers could be successful in the right city, the right state, the right time. Not all are assigned as so.
All this to say: You can be a Damn Fine Soldier and a horrible recruiter, conversely, I have met Damn Fine Recruiters that were some of the best Soldiers I've ever known. The two are linked, but a recruiter that is in his first three years, should not have his recruiting efforts and results weighed against his/her career in their MOS field.
I was a good recruiter, got my Gold Badge to show it. I wore it proudly the rest of my career, because while everyone looked on it as just another award, I viewed as equal to my two combat patches and my CAB I earned, because my years in Recruiting were just as challenging and rewarding as my tours in Baghdad during OIF and Desert Storm.
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SGT (Join to see)
Thank you everyone for the information. I am just confused because my Retention NCO tells me I have to wait 3 weeks until after school before I can request to switch to 79R. My buddy who is in Recruiter school now, says 12 months, and I cant find a real recruiter to give me a legit answer.Some people are saying 36 months. I went on there facebook, went on the official website, and only got one returned email, with no answers. For an under strength MOS, I feel like I am going out of my way to find answers, yet there is no one to answer them. The amount of time I stay in my current MOS really matters, because as a 92F (fueler) you will not make SSG. It just doesn't happen unless you have been in for 10 plus years in my field. I do not want to be that 15 year SGT. I must get away from my Over Strength MOS, and I am trying to decide if 35G/35L (Intelligence) is better, or 79R. Thanks everyone
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MSG Wade Huffman
SGT (Join to see) , I really though one of the Recruiters on here would have answered by now. How about you try this. At the top of the page, next to the search box, click advanced. Select Army for branch, and under military specialty enter 79R, then just above the search button, uncheck veterans, this will give you a list of all the members that are active duty army recruiters, reach out directly to one of them for assistance.
Hope it helps and good luck!
Hope it helps and good luck!
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