In Israel they train ex special forces to conceal carry to act as a "second tier" of defense to terrorism. Should we? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-110221"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fin-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=In+Israel+they+train+ex+special+forces+to+conceal+carry+to+act+as+a+%22second+tier%22+of+defense+to+terrorism.+Should+we%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fin-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIn Israel they train ex special forces to conceal carry to act as a &quot;second tier&quot; of defense to terrorism. Should we?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="9896134443d164dbf2a730163b1606af" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/110/221/for_gallery_v2/5ce9563.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/110/221/large_v3/5ce9563.jpeg" alt="5ce9563" /></a></div></div> Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:32:59 -0400 In Israel they train ex special forces to conceal carry to act as a "second tier" of defense to terrorism. Should we? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-110221"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fin-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=In+Israel+they+train+ex+special+forces+to+conceal+carry+to+act+as+a+%22second+tier%22+of+defense+to+terrorism.+Should+we%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fin-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AIn Israel they train ex special forces to conceal carry to act as a &quot;second tier&quot; of defense to terrorism. Should we?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="c473b65ec219f14279fbc38a33005114" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/110/221/for_gallery_v2/5ce9563.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/110/221/large_v3/5ce9563.jpeg" alt="5ce9563" /></a></div></div> SPC Edward Lavoie Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:32:59 -0400 2016-09-20T16:32:59-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2016 4:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909777&urlhash=1909777 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Almost anyone can concealed carry here in Arizona, and many other states. In most others you can take a class and get a license to concealed carry fairly easily... given that, I&#39;m not sure what purpose this would serve.<br /><br />I have a concealed carry permit, and usually carry when I&#39;m hiking in areas where drug and human trafficking take place... if the ex special forces person wants to concealed carry, there is nothing stopping them in most of the country. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:39:56 -0400 2016-09-20T16:39:56-04:00 Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2016 4:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909778&urlhash=1909778 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, we should. just like retired peace officers, like my belated father carried a weapon and he had a ritired Sheriff badge. As usual, the Democrats and ACLU would filibuster against it. LTC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:39:58 -0400 2016-09-20T16:39:58-04:00 Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2016 4:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909810&urlhash=1909810 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Your DD-214 already qualifies you to get a conceal carry permit in Virginia. PO1 Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:51:42 -0400 2016-09-20T16:51:42-04:00 Response by SFC George Smith made Sep 20 at 2016 5:14 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909893&urlhash=1909893 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not a bad Idea... Most Of The SF folks i know, Here in the US already have a CCW and Pack... SFC George Smith Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:14:26 -0400 2016-09-20T17:14:26-04:00 Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Sep 20 at 2016 5:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909922&urlhash=1909922 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well, my question would be, if so trained SF, why would you not use your training to that effect? Yes, I think they should be so trained and maybe a special Police certified to act in such situation, if they desire to do such a thing. SGT Bryon Sergent Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:21:46 -0400 2016-09-20T17:21:46-04:00 Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Sep 20 at 2016 5:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1909951&urlhash=1909951 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It would definetly be a great idea. SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:32:13 -0400 2016-09-20T17:32:13-04:00 Response by SFC Mark Merino made Sep 20 at 2016 5:55 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910037&urlhash=1910037 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Israel is the model for keeping their citizens safe. Until our citizens learn that some things need to change to vett their visitors like they do, to build a wall like they did, and have a nation of trained service members like they do, we will always lag behind. If we got attacked by multiple Arab nations like they did our fearless leader wouldn&#39;t admit we were under attack until they took his chair from under his butt. SFC Mark Merino Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:55:25 -0400 2016-09-20T17:55:25-04:00 Response by MSG Mitch Dowler made Sep 20 at 2016 6:29 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910134&urlhash=1910134 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In Israel damn near any citizen can carry and a much higher percentage of the population does than here. I don&#39;t see that being an ex special forces changes anything. MSG Mitch Dowler Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:29:11 -0400 2016-09-20T18:29:11-04:00 Response by MSG Mitch Dowler made Sep 20 at 2016 6:30 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910138&urlhash=1910138 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We have had bills in the past to allow military and veterans to carry on aircraft and across state lines but dems blocked passing of the bills. MSG Mitch Dowler Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:30:50 -0400 2016-09-20T18:30:50-04:00 Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Sep 20 at 2016 8:06 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910410&urlhash=1910410 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Damn right! They swore an oath to protect from ALL enemies FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC! They have the training... USE IT! Sgt Wayne Wood Tue, 20 Sep 2016 20:06:55 -0400 2016-09-20T20:06:55-04:00 Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 20 at 2016 10:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910653&urlhash=1910653 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I mean, that&#39;s more than little bit easier to do in Israel because of the smallness of their country and the fact that some of them live in the occupied territories where the threat is the highest, so it&#39;s logistically easier for ex-SF to respond if need be. Plus here, you&#39;re many times less likely to be caught in a terrorist attack. PFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:04:34 -0400 2016-09-20T22:04:34-04:00 Response by CPT Jack Durish made Sep 20 at 2016 10:13 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910668&urlhash=1910668 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That sounds to me like a helluva good idea. CPT Jack Durish Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:13:13 -0400 2016-09-20T22:13:13-04:00 Response by PO2 Al Mcdonald made Sep 20 at 2016 10:25 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910690&urlhash=1910690 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Hell the Amendment say yes, but greedy governments state say no! Just follow the dang gone Amendments PO2 Al Mcdonald Tue, 20 Sep 2016 22:25:14 -0400 2016-09-20T22:25:14-04:00 Response by COL David Turk made Sep 21 at 2016 1:15 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1910968&urlhash=1910968 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Never thought of that, but it&#39;s not a bad idea. Actually, the more I think about it, the better I like it. COL David Turk Wed, 21 Sep 2016 01:15:49 -0400 2016-09-21T01:15:49-04:00 Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Sep 21 at 2016 7:30 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1911294&urlhash=1911294 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ll worry about that when we&#39;ve got a problem even close to Israel&#39;s. We&#39;ve got real problems to solve. SPC Kevin Ford Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:30:42 -0400 2016-09-21T07:30:42-04:00 Response by SGT David T. made Sep 21 at 2016 7:34 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1911300&urlhash=1911300 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think all law abiding citizens should keep and bear arms. A right not exercised is a right that is easy to take away. History has shown us that private ownership of firearms is an effective deterrent from invasion. SGT David T. Wed, 21 Sep 2016 07:34:40 -0400 2016-09-21T07:34:40-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2016 8:12 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1911392&urlhash=1911392 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That sounds good to me , lets do it !! SFC Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:12:59 -0400 2016-09-21T08:12:59-04:00 Response by SSgt David Tedrow made Sep 21 at 2016 10:17 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1911727&urlhash=1911727 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I believe our 2nd Amendment is our second tier that you speak of. The fact that we have many former military and LEO&#39;s that always carry also strengthens this second tier. SSgt David Tedrow Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:17:18 -0400 2016-09-21T10:17:18-04:00 Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2016 11:04 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1913822&urlhash=1913822 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Just to give an example of something that may cause discussion or give ideas.<br /><br />The National Guards (Army and Air) of multple States were ordered by their respective Governors after the attack on the Marine Recruiting Station in Tennessee to establish a way for their Soldiers and Airmen to be able to have access to a weapon in order to deter attacks on armories and recruiting stations.<br /><br />Soldiers and Airmen on AGR and Recruiters are generally carrying concealed in the NG to protect themselves and deter against attacks. Soldiers and Airmen not on AGR or Recruiting are allowed to carry a personally owned weapon concealed pending training and approval from their respective Commander in multiple States as well.<br /><br />For the Active Component and Reserves of each Branch this is not possible because they are under Federal authority. NG can do it because they are under State authority unless otherwise ordered. I think this should be expanded to our Active and Reserve counterparts. Be given a pistol qual, a training course, and Commander authorization per service member.<br /><br />Then all of you at Fort Couch should arm yourselves, train regularly, and teach others how to shoot, research your local laws before doing so. Some States have more Freedom involving firearms than others. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 21 Sep 2016 23:04:49 -0400 2016-09-21T23:04:49-04:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2016 4:59 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1914226&urlhash=1914226 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely not. It is too close to giving the military authority to operate on US soil. Protection at home is something that should always be in the realm of a civil authority. Israel is set up they way they are because they have no choice. They have a small population physically surrounded by multiple nations that wish to see them disappear off the map. We don&#39;t need retired SOF guys running around to protect the nation when we have multiple civilian agencies who already have that task. The smarter idea would be to increase their funding and training and not waste federal assets on old SOF guys. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 22 Sep 2016 04:59:12 -0400 2016-09-22T04:59:12-04:00 Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2016 1:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1915347&urlhash=1915347 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely!!! If Israel did not perform many of the invisible security measures that it does, it would have cease to exist years ago. Here is a country that does wait for the attack to happen and then act. Nor does it fail to respond when something bad does happen. And it doesn&#39;t give a good Rat Fart what the world thinks. SCPO Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 22 Sep 2016 13:01:17 -0400 2016-09-22T13:01:17-04:00 Response by PO1 Kerry French made Sep 22 at 2016 10:36 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1916815&urlhash=1916815 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>YES!! and we should teach all - especially women, Krav Maga PO1 Kerry French Thu, 22 Sep 2016 22:36:51 -0400 2016-09-22T22:36:51-04:00 Response by SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA made Sep 24 at 2016 1:20 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/in-israel-they-train-ex-special-forces-to-conceal-carry-to-act-as-a-second-tier-of-defense-to-terrorism-should-we?n=1920156&urlhash=1920156 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We ought to revitalize the Constitutional Militia of the several States. It is the civic duty of each citizen to be prepared to respond to crises, including violent attacks of whatever origin.<br />Every citizen should be trained at a minimum to safely and responsibly carry and operate a pistol and rifle. Having been trained, carrying the pistol ought to be generally required.<br /><br />Perhaps we should incorporate a concealed carry refresher into ACAP, as well. SPC Elijah J. Henry, MBA Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:20:54 -0400 2016-09-24T13:20:54-04:00 2016-09-20T16:32:59-04:00