Posted on May 29, 2016
If you are leaving service for medical/involuntary terms, have you already transferred your GI Bill?
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Soldiers who have at least six years of eligible active service must first agree to serve an additional four years of service. Soldiers who have at least six years of eligible service and do not commit to the additional four years prior to being approved for separation for not eligible to transfer benefits.
Check out the rare exceptions at:
http://www.armyreenlistment.com/teb-exceptions.html
Check out the rare exceptions at:
http://www.armyreenlistment.com/teb-exceptions.html
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Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
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When I got out on y medical. My GI bill was the last of my worries. I was being separated. i was both happy and sad. down the road when i decided to use my GI bill i went to my local college spoke the the Veterans Representative, and it was done through the VA since i was a Veteran. They did not ask me if i wanted to use the Mongomery GI Bill or the post 9-11 GI Bill. However, I found out as my Montgomery GI bill was coming to a close, I also qualified for the post 9-11 and was able to use up all my benefits from the Montgomery GI Bill and switch the the psot 9-11 and use both. This was stil an option back then. Not sure if there are many people that are still eligable that can use both. I also remember when New Soldiers would get out and start school they would ask them. Do you want to use the Montgomery or Post 9-11. Most people chose the post 9-11, Because of the book stipend. However, most at that time were told. If you use the Montgomery after you use the 24 months, you can switch to the post 9-11 and get an additional 12 months, as was the case with me.
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Sp4 Byron Skinner…If you are leaving for medical reason that make you unfit for duty, it more then likely that you can get Vocational Rehab…This is a much better program then the regular GI Bill.
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Attempted to transfer benefits to my kids but was denied because they said I didn't complete my service obligation. I completed my last 6 year enlistment, retired with 24 years. They said to transfer benefits I would have to re enlist for 3 more years. Which makes no sense, whats the difference between 24 and 27 years. Working with congressman to fox this. Even if I did re enlist I wouldn't been able to stay. 2 months after I was diagnosed with a rare blood disorder and it would disqualified me from serving anyway.
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SSG Robert White
You would have been allowed to transfer since you would have been medically retired.
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TSgt John LaBelle
Unfortunately its not working that way. Have a pending AFBOC, awaiting copies of AF medical records. Have a letter from AFBMC saying they were unable to obtain my medical records. Basically it was a cascade of events that prevented me from a normal retirement briefings, ect. Requested my records, but hope that they are intact and what I and they need from them is not missing.
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SSG Robert White
TSgt John LaBelle - Your a reservist. Your not AD. If your being medically retired and they can't retrieve your medical records, it is up to you to get your civilian records as well as any records your reserve/national guard unit is holding. Also, when it comes to filing a VA claim, you want to do it within the last year you are on active duty. If your going thru the retirement process now, but as a reservist/guardsman, then you need to send in a 21-0966 and fax it to [login to see] . This is an informal claim. It gives you one year to file a claim. This should be enough time to get all your medical records. You can only file for what happened on AD, unless you had a physical injury on a drill weekend or suffered some type of heart related issue during a drill weekend.
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I just figured I'd mention something I'd found out about awhile back, that could potentially, at least, maybe obviate that whole problem, or, possibly, a goodly fraction of it. There's a relatively new online school called Univ of the People, or UoPeople, http://www.uopeople.edu , that I gather is nonprofit, with offices I think in Calif , with Assoc and Bach in bus admin, copm sci, and health science, as well as an MBA. I should think they'll most likely be adding other majors over time, undergrad and grad, I'd expect, though I don't know if they'll go doctoral. They just got accred by DETC, formerly NHSC, you'll see everything using Google. I don't know if VA or the svcs have looked into them yet, all I know is I've been reading really seriously good things, honest, about them. Now here's my point, I understand the desirability to go to a conventional school, certainly. However, if, and that's a big if, of course, if VA and the svcs might accept them and if industry accepts them I hadn't read anything about the acceptance by industry yet, then why go to the trouble of paying money possibly needlessly, when UoPeople cost nothing other I gather than for exam and admin fees, you know ? I've been mentioning them on here many mtmes now, I just don't know if any vets and or svc mbrs have looked into them. However, given what they're offering, and, most especially if they domin fact create other majors, they could be the best possible alternative to needless school expense I've ever personally run across, that's all I'm trying to say. I was in during VEAP, before the new GI Bill, however that being said, if UoPeople can get vets and or svc mbrs a Bach, apart from svc schools like commun colg of AF or CCAF, why not try? Consider, if one has an Assoc, Bach, and masters from UoPeople, then one might be able to go to grad school, using only minimal to no GI Bill funds, plus posbly getting a teaching research or grad assistantship or TA RA or GA. That way, even though your tuition might be taxed, which I gather is reqd now for assistantshops, eptiotoon waivers are aprntly deemed income taxably I'd read, then perhaps the GI Bill benefits might be asked to be used toward that end, though, of course that's just an idea I have no clue if that's even possible of course. However, until vets and or svc mbrs start looking into UoPeople, and seeing ifmVA or the svcs accept them, posbly for svc used and or wocs or OCS, e.g.g, my point is no one will ever know, and a potentially valuable resource of conceivably inestimable value to vets and or svc mbrs will remain unexplored, that's all I'm trying to say, hope was of use and interest, would be eager for any thoughts, many thanks.
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SSG Robert White
On February 13, 2014, University of the People administrators announced that they had obtained national accreditation for their degree granting programs. Unfortunately, this “national accreditation” consists of accreditation by the Distance Education and Training Council (DETC), a legitimate U.S.-based accreditation agency, but not one which carries much weight in the accreditation realm. DETC accreditation ensures that a program has proven to offer courses via distance learning, but it isn’t so much a recognized assurance of quality. The distance learning format could mean online or through traditional paper-based correspondence, and the accreditation is real, it’s just not what you expect when an institution of higher education states that it is accredited. This is a common problem in the prison education realm, as profiled regularly by Prison Education News.
When institutions of higher education speak of accreditation, they usually mean regional accreditation. In the United States, there are six regional accreditation bodies, each of which accredits schools within its particular geographic region. Accreditation by one of these six regional accreditation agencies means that the school is a quality institution. On a more practical level, regional accreditation means that credits will most likely transfer to other regionally accredited educational institutions. For all intents and purposes, all community colleges, state universities, and quality private universities are regionally accredited. Since shades of gray are being employed, a list of the six regional accreditation agencies is warranted:
• Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools, Commission on Higher Education
• New England Association of Schools and Colleges, Commission on Institutions of Higher Education
• North Central Association of Colleges and Schools, The Higher Learning Commission
• Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities
• Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, Commission on Colleges
• Western Association of Schools and Colleges, Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities
If the good people at New York University and the University of the People want to make a real statement of educational and academic rigor, then they must be honest and forthright about their accreditation status. Misleading students, and evidently even the New York Times, shouldn’t be a part of a public relations strategy in any manifestation. While, yes, obtaining regional accreditation is very expensive and can take upwards of 10 years, it would be better to seek authentic regional accreditation and to say as much rather than to assert that a different type of accreditation means regional accreditation. This just results in into shady business dealings and brings more questions to mind among those who understand the world of academic accreditation.
The only correct answer here is for the University of the People to right this wrong by ensuring that its students understand what its current DETC accreditation means: that the school offers quality courses via distance education, but that the courses will not transfer to most major colleges or universities and that degrees granted will probably not qualify students for state licensure. To fail to do so is to mislead students about their future career paths, even while offering a remarkable service to disadvantaged students in need.
When institutions of higher education speak of accreditation, they usually mean regional accreditation. In the United States, there are six regional accreditation bodies, each of which accredits schools within its particular geographic region. Accreditation by one of these six regional accreditation agencies means that the school is a quality institution. On a more practical level, regional accreditation means that credits will most likely transfer to other regionally accredited educational institutions. For all intents and purposes, all community colleges, state universities, and quality private universities are regionally accredited. Since shades of gray are being employed, a list of the six regional accreditation agencies is warranted:
• Middle States Association of Colleges and Schools, Commission on Higher Education
• New England Association of Schools and Colleges, Commission on Institutions of Higher Education
• North Central Association of Colleges and Schools, The Higher Learning Commission
• Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities
• Southern Association of Colleges and Schools, Commission on Colleges
• Western Association of Schools and Colleges, Accrediting Commission for Senior Colleges and Universities
If the good people at New York University and the University of the People want to make a real statement of educational and academic rigor, then they must be honest and forthright about their accreditation status. Misleading students, and evidently even the New York Times, shouldn’t be a part of a public relations strategy in any manifestation. While, yes, obtaining regional accreditation is very expensive and can take upwards of 10 years, it would be better to seek authentic regional accreditation and to say as much rather than to assert that a different type of accreditation means regional accreditation. This just results in into shady business dealings and brings more questions to mind among those who understand the world of academic accreditation.
The only correct answer here is for the University of the People to right this wrong by ensuring that its students understand what its current DETC accreditation means: that the school offers quality courses via distance education, but that the courses will not transfer to most major colleges or universities and that degrees granted will probably not qualify students for state licensure. To fail to do so is to mislead students about their future career paths, even while offering a remarkable service to disadvantaged students in need.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I understand, I knew of the gpregnl accred grps of course, it was just tha5, it seemed a bargain, and as such worth suggesting, though I obv follow, many thanks for having gone as far with it as you were able, I just thought it might be useful posbly, albeit by no means a panacea, of course many thanks, certainly.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
Sorry for typos temprmntl tablet, lol, however, excelsior, is, I'd known regno6 accred, I believe,mand, as I'dsaid, very svc andnvet friendly, also, many thnx.
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Capt Daniel Goodman
One nevernkmowsmuntol one tries, I just figured it might be worth having it looked into , that's, all honest, many thnx once again.
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