If you are a reservist but are working for a government entity (Intel agency, state department) does your contract stop?

2021-10-31T17:22:22-04:00

I heard of a reservist intel officer who also worked for an intel agency working overseas for his main job while his contract would keep going. I was wondering if there is any more information on this and maybe some official source on this.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 5:47 PM

2021-10-31T17:47:13-04:00

Your contract only "stops" when
-your ETS date and your discharge order is cut
-when your request for transfer to the IRR gets approved and that discharge/transfer is cut.
-when you are discharged for cause and that order is cut.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 5:48 PM

2021-10-31T17:48:24-04:00

Just because you work for one government agency, does not mean you stop with your other voluntarily chosen commitment. You could take a break by entering the IRR, but at some point, you are going to have to pick it back up. You could try asking your Retention NCO and/or Career Counselor.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 6:31 PM

2021-10-31T18:31:17-04:00

I’m in a Reserve MI unit. Many of our NCOs and Officers work in the Intel Community and Law Enforcement. You can do both simultaneously.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 7:32 PM

2021-10-31T19:32:42-04:00

It does not. I worked for the government and my enlistment did not end. You can received approved absences from drill that can be made up later through alternate drills or additional AT's. Government agencies usually have no problem scheduling around your drilling requirements and sometimes provide paid leave depending on the agency. I had paid leave while I was at NTC, worked out well because I essentially was paid double and it didn't count against my actual vacation time or sick time. Every situation is different, additional information can be obtained through your readiness NCO, Career Counselor, Retention NCO, and 1SG.

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Oct 31 at 2021 10:14 PM

2021-10-31T22:14:17-04:00

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 31 at 2021 10:30 PM

2021-10-31T22:30:43-04:00

No. You would need to be working with your CO and S1 to either get excused from battle assembly for those BAs and then submit RST or other trainings to make up for the missed BAs to make sure you have enough points for a good year. Unless you transfer to say the IRR you are still on your unit’s books and they are responsible for explaining to their superiors why soldiers are not at battle assemblies completing trainings.

Response by MAJ Ronnie Reams made Nov 1 at 2021 9:31 AM

2021-11-01T09:31:23-04:00

It used to be, and may still be, that some guvment agencies would "borrow" you from DOD, NASA and the company come to mind.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2021 12:38 PM

2021-11-01T12:38:54-04:00

Who told you this? According to your profile, you aren't even in the Intelligence field?

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Nov 1 at 2021 6:27 PM

2021-11-01T18:27:45-04:00

Start with OPM.gov. Search for reserve duty. Lots of information for Resrrve and Guard members. Civil service and military jobs are separate employments. They can be mutually beneficial in terms of training or leadership opportunities. For example retired service members are prohibited from using their retired rank or Service on civil service business cards, signature blocks, desk plates, etc.; however, some military schools can be substituted for similar civilian employee education.

BTW commissioned officers may have service commitments because of training or PCS moves, but don’t actually sign an enlistment contract like an enlisted person does.