If there is internal war/natural disaster in the US, do you see us allowing other countries into our borders to provide military/civil aid?

2015-10-11T13:13:54-04:00

I was thinking the other day during my Joint course, America seems to have no issue injecting itself into other countries in support of internal conflict or humanitarian aid. Agreed, a lot of that has to do with our National Strategy. So, what would happen if there was an uprising in the US where we had to declare martial law, if a nation invaded us (Red Dawn), or a series of disasters happened simultaneously where we couldn’t handle the problem (another Hurricane Sandy with a California earthquake and Yosemite exploding). Would we allow external help from say, England, France, Japan, or even Russia to come in to provide help? On the other hand, would we be too prideful or arrogant to say no, we can do this on our own. Just things I think about…

Response by Cpl James Waycasie made Oct 11 at 2015 1:19 PM

2015-10-11T13:19:00-04:00

I wouldn't have a problem with relief/medical aid but not foreign troops on our soil.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2015 1:31 PM

2015-10-11T13:31:16-04:00

On September 2, 2005 the Government of Canada announced it was sending three warships along with a Coast Guard vessel, and three Sea King helicopters to the New Orleans area. In response to Hurricane Katrina. According to the European Commission, one week after the disaster, on September 4, 2005, the United States officially asked the European Union for emergency help.

Response by Maj Walter Kilar made Oct 11 at 2015 1:37 PM

2015-10-11T13:37:10-04:00

Only in extreme cases would I envision the U.S. allowing allies to help. The U.S. does have redundant forces at federal, state, and local levels to withstand most contingencies, and U.S. planners have incorporated most of these factors in just about any contingency imaginable. There are contingencies where planners would acknowledge we need external help, e.g. Sharknado covering the entire west coast and parts of Nebraska.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 11 at 2015 1:51 PM

2015-10-11T13:51:04-04:00

Personally, those other countries would prolly tell us to suck it up and fix things ourselves.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 11 at 2015 1:52 PM

2015-10-11T13:52:44-04:00

In those kind of natural disasters we would accept help from anywhere it was available. we have foreign firefighters fighting the wildfires in Washington State today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2015/08/21/why-the-u-s-just-summoned-firefighters-from-australia-and-new-zealand/

Why the U.S. just summoned firefighters from Australia and New Zealand

Resources are stretched so thin, fire managers don't have a choice.

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Oct 11 at 2015 1:55 PM

2015-10-11T13:55:58-04:00

"A gun behind every blade of grass"...

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Oct 11 at 2015 2:19 PM

2015-10-11T14:19:59-04:00

We've longstanding agreements with the Commonwealth Countries. Specifically Canada, Britain, Australia.

The major issue is that anything that can knock America on it's proverbial tail, with our size and resources... what is it going to do the Combined Commonwealth at "half" (closer to one third) our size?

We just dwarf everyone else. To the extent it's not even funny. World's biggest Air Force: USAF. World's 2nd biggest Air Force: US Navy. More Aircraft Carriers than everyone else combined (this might no longer be true, but give us a couple more years). The only Nations that can compete/rival us would really result in everyone glowing in the dark if we needed to call in help.

Now, if it was a natural disaster, our size is our greatest ally. It's just hard to hit a country this big that hard. Katrina was BIG, but it was "localized" if that makes sense.

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Oct 11 at 2015 4:56 PM

2015-10-11T16:56:42-04:00

Sure! As many illegals as we let in, why would this be any different??? THis would be a great opportunity for our government to facilitate the entry of illegals even further... smdh...

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Oct 11 at 2015 5:58 PM

2015-10-11T17:58:39-04:00

I suppose we will have to wait a little longer to find out. Other than the Saudis monetary offer after 9/11 don't recall any offers of assistance during out disasters.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 4:22 AM

2015-10-12T04:22:08-04:00

The UNITED STATES has Accepted Foreign AID in the Past Here is Hurricane KATRINA: Initially, the United States had been reluctant to accept donations and aid from foreign countries. However, this policy was reversed, and as the reports of damage grew more grim, the United States accepted the foreign aid. Countries and organizations that offered to send aid mentioned by the State Department included Afghanistan, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Austria, Azerbaijan, the Bahamas, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belarus, Belgium, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Canada, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, El Salvador, the European Union, Finland, France, Georgia, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Guyana, Honduras, Hungary, Iceland, India, Indonesia, International Energy Agency, International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Jamaica, Japan, Jordan, Kosovo, Kuwait, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Mexico, NATO, Nepal, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Norway, Organization of American States, Oman, OPEC, Pakistan, Paraguay, the Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Spain, Sri Lanka, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Tunisia, Turkey, Ukraine, UAE, United Kingdom, the United Nations, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Venezuela and the World Health Organization. Other countries not on this list have also offered aid, but the State Department mentioned that they had not been asked. Later, the US State Department said all offers were being examined.[48] Donations include Kuwait donating 500 million dollars, Canada sending frigate HMCS Toronto (FFH 333) and frigate HMCS Ville de Québec (FFH 332), a coast guard light icebreaker (CCGS Sir William Alexander), and two H-3 Sea King helicopters to the area (2 additional helicopters will be sent to Boston to replace US Coast Guard helicopters going to Louisiana) and Singapore sending three CH-47 Chinook helicopters and thirty-eight RSAF personnel from a training detachment based in Grand Prairie, Texas.[49] Some of these countries that helped even offered evacuees to immigrate to their respective countries.

Notable offers from international organizations include the United Nations, which was ready to send supply high-energy biscuits, generators, planes, tents along with experienced staff members; and Paris-based International Energy Agency agreeing to make 60 million barrels oil available to help the United States weather the economic problems caused by Hurricane Katrina.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Oct 12 at 2015 5:35 AM

2015-10-12T05:35:59-04:00

I think that if we did it would be other NATO countries. However if it were bad enough some others might see it as a wonderful opportunity to take over parts of the country or to finish off the US.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 12 at 2015 10:15 AM

2015-10-12T10:15:30-04:00

It has happened.
The two that come to mind are Katrina and 9/11, but I am sure there are other examples.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Oct 28 at 2015 7:24 AM

2015-10-28T07:24:18-04:00

COL Thomas F. if my memory serves me correctly after Hurricane Katrina there were some foreign governments that offer to help I don't recall if they actually were permitted to enter the country and render assistance however.