If the commander asked for feedback would you give it to him/her?

TSgt Melissa Post — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:38:29 -0400

Recently my commander released Staff Sergeant promotion results in a different manner than we normally do. Many airman near me were talking about how they disliked this new way. I myself had the same sentiments and for good cause. During the release, the commander asked us to let him know if we liked doing promotions this way. I took two days to type up a simple, yet respectful email explaining my opinion and giving three alternate solutions to achieve what he stated his goals were for his approach. The next week I was talking to another airman about this and he was adamant that I shouldn't have done that. When I asked why he response was "you just don't do that". My email was in no way disrespectful or full of complaining. I received a reply from my commander that stated "Understood. Thank you for your honest feedback." Would you have told the commander your opinion or would you have kept silent? Was I wrong to be honest?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 2:40 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:40:03 -0400

If they ask for it, I give it.

Response by CSM David Heidke made Aug 24 at 2015 2:41 PM

CSM David Heidke — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:41:35 -0400

Sometimes I give it without asking...

...but I'm not getting promoted again, am I.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 2:47 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:47:10 -0400

Yes but cautiously.

It's always hard to be critical of someone who holds your future in their hands, but you owe it to them as well.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 2:51 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:51:35 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post, in the Army we are afforded these opportunities at all levels in the form of AAR's, counseling sessions, MSAF 360's, Command Climate surveys and just open door policy sit downs. Now how many people speak the truth respectfully, that is a questions that I can't answer? I know that one of my primary duties as a Chief Warrant Officer is to be the honest broker for my Commander in the realm of maintenance and logistics and I definitely have no problem doing just that.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 2:55 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:55:24 -0400

If a superior asks for feedback-they should be aware they are agreeing to accept it without reciprocity (within reason). That said, once you reveal your opinion, no matter how well intentioned, it's impossible to 'take it back'. My opinion is that the commander is making a mistake since they obviously know their decision was unpopular; asking folks for their opinion after the fact accomplishes nothing...

...unless he/she is genuinely surprised at the reaction, and is trying to survey overall sentiment towards better policy.

That said, I know that in the Navy at least, being an advocate for the crew is a major function of the SEA.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Aug 24 at 2015 3:03 PM

COL Jean (John) F. B. — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:03:01 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post - I would say that, if the commander asked for feedback, subordinates should feel free to provide it without fear of retribution (assuming, of course, the feedback was provided in a professional manner). I can't imagine he/she would have asked if not interested in getting a response.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 3:11 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:11:13 -0400

Out of curiousness, how did your commander release the results?

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Aug 24 at 2015 3:18 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:18:37 -0400

As enlisted, we are both the workers, the enforcers of policies, the interpreters of policy, and the advisers to our commanders.

How is a commander to know what the troops think without someone providing feedback?

Seriously. If the commander asks a question. Give an honest answer, TACTFULLY. Which it sounds like you did. Present the issues as you see them. Present solutions to the issues as you see them. Adequately explain your concerns.

Keep in mind that all of us our shaped by our experiences. Officers are not promoted in the same way as enlisted, therefore a modification to the promotion process affects us differently than it would them. They just don't know, and that ignorance, isn't "bad" it's just a hole in their knowledge. Once that knowledge gap has been corrected, they can adjust accordingly.

Now, the issue that your "peers" are likely expressing concern about is "unsolicited feedback" (which is generally not done, unless in a key billet like PSG, 1SG, CSM, etc) as compared to "solicited feedback" (which was asked for). They may not be separating the two concepts.

Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Aug 24 at 2015 3:32 PM

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:32:07 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post As a former Company Commander, Battalion Commander, and Brigade Commander I always had an "open door policy" and I also freaking asked soldiers from the private all the way up to LTC for their feedback. I always encourage them to use the chain of command first to see if they can get their question or issue resolved, but I was always open for business to listen. Great leaders learn from their soldiers what exactly the climate and culture of their unit is through effective communications. Just because I would listen to someone's heartburn didn't mean I would go out and change everything right that minute, but it did afford me great insight to problems that I could address with the staff, the Chaplain, the Brigade Surgeon, the CSM, or the full-time civilian staff and make great decisions and changes based on analysis, experience, facts, and war gaming solutions. BLUF: (Bottom Line Up Front) If the Commander asks for feedback, I feel it is your duty to provide it. Just my personal beliefs and the way I did business!

Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made Aug 24 at 2015 3:42 PM

SGT Lawrence Corser — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:42:21 -0400

Well depends on the environment, like in a sensing session maybe if the senior NCOs arent around, but in a one on one probably not.

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made Aug 24 at 2015 3:50 PM

CMSgt Mark Schubert — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:50:46 -0400

Hi!
You did the right thing - they asked, you answered - pretty simple - and it sounds as if you answered in a respectful way, with solutions and thought. All good. I read thru many of your responses also and just ran across the statement you made and said "I'm just a SrA" - please don't think this way - ever. You are not "just" a SrA - you are in integral part of a complex team and every single job is important to the mission - please don't ever forget that and always think of yourself as a valued member of that team. There is no such thing as "just" a xxx Airmen in the Air Force I worked for! :-)

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Aug 24 at 2015 4:26 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:26:18 -0400

All the time. Perhaps that is the reason I was a career SFC/E-7.

Response by SFC John Birks made Aug 24 at 2015 4:31 PM

SFC John Birks — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:31:46 -0400

I agree with CSM David Heidke. I'm the type (was the type) of Soldier that couldn't sit by without saying something if I knew I was right. However I never did it in a way to undermine their authority or disrespect them. Being tactful can be everyone's friend.

Response by SGT Bryon Sergent made Aug 24 at 2015 5:01 PM

SGT Bryon Sergent — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:01:40 -0400

Well wasn't the commander but was My platoon leader on training going on before a deployment. Told him I rather not but he persisted. So I let him have it. He had witnessed an argument between an E-6 and myself about the training on going was wrong and stepped in and told the E-6 I was correct. I had just returned to service after a 7 year break and came in as an E-3. He thought that I was wet behind the ear old fart! After words we sat down and I showed him my original DD-214 and we had a cigar! he later became my squad leader and he and the LT. asked me frequently what I thought. They knew I would be honest. I still have yet to fully get the TACT thing down though. I partially have it! lol

Response by Col Kyle Taylor made Aug 24 at 2015 5:08 PM

Col Kyle Taylor — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:08:33 -0400

Many commanders never receive good feedback but need it. If asked, it is an opportunity for you to do just that. If it is not asked for, then I would suggest that you do not go direct but to use your supervisor and 1st Sgt.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 5:09 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 17:09:47 -0400

As a buck sergeant I have nothing to lose. Ask and I will answer, and don't ask me if you want someone to stroke your ego.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 6:30 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:30:04 -0400

As a commander I would welcome feedback especially for admin issues.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 6:49 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:49:58 -0400

"Moral courage" means telling your commander what he wants to hear these days. I was condemned by my peers and superiors for speaking up, and telling it like it was. I was called a relic from the past that should be put in a glass case. I was focused on training for war not peace. Discipline was my watchword, and the soldiers did not decide what punishment was right or wrong where I served as CSM. I was the Chief Trainer. The buck stopped with me. I participated in all training and lead by example. I was told by a Division CSM that I would never serve above BN level because I was too intrusive. That means I scared commanders with the truth. The next thing he asked was why do you train with your soldiers? The question was shocking, but the answer was simple. When I speak everyone listens. That went over his head like a tent. I carried a rifle not a pistol, and I damn well knew how to use that weapon and my soldiers knew how to use their weapons as well. -CSM Purdy

People don't want to rock the boat now a days. I am much like CSM David Heidke. I will give it without it being asked for. I know I would rather hear the truth than what I wanted to hear. Now a days so many are career minded they don't want to oppose anyone above them for the fear that they may be viewed as hostile. I say that is BS. I have said my piece many times and I have had to pay for it sometimes. I will not sacrifice my "Moral Courage" for an OER bullet.

You did the right thing. He asked for it and you gave it to him. I will say it, that Airman that questioned you is a coward. He is nothing more than a ticket puncher waiting for his turn.

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Response by SrA Matthew Knight made Aug 24 at 2015 7:51 PM

SrA Matthew Knight — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:51:32 -0400

I personally would never e-mail a commander because I feel that my chain of command upon hearing it, even if it was good feedback, would get on my case for e-mailing the commander. I do participate in the anonymous surveys that they run from time to time though, nice to say what's on one's mind without fear of reprisal.

Response by PO2 Corey Ferretti made Aug 24 at 2015 7:58 PM

PO2 Corey Ferretti — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:58:49 -0400

Well your brace because I don't think I ever gave my Skipper or LT honest answers till I was an PO2. But that was because by that time I was mature enough to give honest feed back with reason not complaining. The fact you gave alternative ways was probably really appreciative. I have a Chief tell me if you have a problem with something I'm doing come to me with a solution not just a complaint. So I commend you on coming up with alternatives and having the courage to give honest feedback.

Response by MSgt Jim Wolverton made Aug 24 at 2015 8:01 PM

MSgt Jim Wolverton — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:01:59 -0400

I think in a way, you do give them feedback. Unit climate assessments are everyone's opportunity to give feedback on the unit and by extension the CC. Also, SNCOs and subordinate officers give constant feedback when they give recommendations, solicited or otherwise. I think most people think of feedback as a direct "you did this wrong" or "you're doing that right". That type of feedback is feedback, but not the kind of feedback subordinates are generally permitted to give, for good reason. Most younger troops don't know how to give it constructively and you are lucky that you have a CC that would allow that, and that you did it respectfully.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 8:16 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:16:51 -0400

Colin Powell always said that the time a commander stops hearing from his soldiers is when that commander has lost their respect (paraphrased, I can't remember the exact quote). The point is that if you felt comfortable enough sending an honest yet respectful response to him, then it was the right thing to do. Trust me, you will have those commanders where you know you have no respect for them and you wouldn't give your opinion no matter how much they asked.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 8:18 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:18:54 -0400

Well, I have been known to provide feedback when not asked, so I guess I have to say yes.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 8:34 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 20:34:01 -0400

Too many times I have seen NCO's become "Yes" men when the CC asks a question. While I was on active duty, I worked really hard to be that guy who tells him what he needs to know to make a decision, not what he wanted to hear. Many times my NCOIC has pulled me aside and said words to the effect of "You shouldn't have said that" and I ALWAYS responded maybe, but the CC NEEDED to hear it. If you aren't going to provide open and honest feedback, don't bother responding at all.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 9:01 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:01:39 -0400

Many times the CO really doesn't want honest feedback. Still, it was very good of you provide honest, tactful feedback. Good for you! Well done.

Response by COL Jon Thompson made Aug 24 at 2015 9:01 PM

COL Jon Thompson — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:01:48 -0400

Any commander that thinks that he/she cannot learn from the people in the command is in the wrong business. I know that some commanders are full of themselves but in this case, it sounds like he wanted the feedback and had established a command climate that allowed that to flow. To me, that is a sign of a healthy unit. If people are scared to go to their commander, the unit has severe problems.

Response by CMSgt James Nolan made Aug 24 at 2015 9:53 PM

CMSgt James Nolan — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:53:15 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post The other Airmen are wrong. Your Commander asked you for feedback. You did not shoot off the first thing that came to mind, you took time and (hopefully) composed a meaningful and honest response to the question. That was what was asked for. If the CC did not care about feedback, would not have asked. If nobody responds, there is no feedback.
When sending something upchannel, always make sure that you proof it, so that it makes sense, as it may be analyzed at length.
Command is a lonely post, when the boss is looking for a way to make improvements, and asks, would you not rather have that input (which may or may not be followed), so that at least you can look at the others and say "I provided input, what did you do? Complain to me? How is that working out for you?"

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 10:15 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:15:16 -0400

If the boss asks for feedback you give it. The hard part is understanding how to provide it. Some bosses are not looking for honest feedback and some are. You are young (rank wise) you have more to risk by providing honest feedback directly to the boss. It's the SNCOs who should be giving the hard truths directly to the boss. However, this isn't a perfect world and sometimes the way things are "supposed" to work...don't. So I guess what I'm saying is, what is the climate of your unit?

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Aug 24 at 2015 10:51 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:51:53 -0400

You wasn't wrong at all your Commander wanted feedback and you did as he/she requested, honesty in an respectful manner means a lot.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 24 at 2015 10:59 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:59:40 -0400

When asked, it is your duty to be honest and respectful. If it ruins morale, then it should be going up your COC. Communication goes both ways, up and down.

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Aug 24 at 2015 11:09 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:09:10 -0400

When I was asked for an opinion or a recommendation I always gave it and always tried to explain why I felt that way. Maybe I was lucky but I had very good company commanders who really did want input from their people. However I will suggest that if you disagree with your commander that you give him or her a rational explanation of why and what you think would be better and it is best that you do so in private.

Response by Cpl James Waycasie made Aug 24 at 2015 11:28 PM

Cpl James Waycasie — Mon, 24 Aug 2015 23:28:41 -0400

I think you did right Ma'am, if he didn't want to hear the truth, he shouldn't ask for it.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Aug 25 at 2015 4:21 AM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:21:19 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post As a Battalion and Brigade Operations Sergeant Major, I gave my 2 cents even if it wasn't requested. That is what my job was. I was the devil's advocate for my units. Commanders have to hear what they need to hear and not what they want to hear. Sometimes it pisses them off but shit happens it's for the better of the unit.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Aug 25 at 2015 8:32 AM

MSG Brad Sand — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:32:44 -0400

The fact that you took the time to think it through and offered alternate solutions confirms, in my opinion, that you were not wrong in sending the e-mail. One is never wrong in being honest. Sometimes, one can be wrong in not sharing honest advice at the wrong time, place or way, but the honesty is never wrong. If someone is actually asking for advice, they either need to be true to their statement or more careful what they ask for. If I was your Commander, I would welcome your input.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made Aug 25 at 2015 8:44 AM

SPC David Hannaman — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:44:27 -0400

I was a driver for a LTC in Korea... I frequently did (gave my opinion) without being asked ...respectfully. A good leader will crave honest feedback... they're often insulated from how decisions impact the E-1 through E-4 people that they're responsible for.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Aug 25 at 2015 8:56 AM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:56:45 -0400

He asked for feedback, right? So long you are respectful/professional it should not be an issue.

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 25 at 2015 9:28 AM

SGT William Howell — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:28:08 -0400

I have been asked to give honest feedback on several occasions while in Iraq. Being a Jr. NCO I treaded lightly, but always gave it.

Rules I always followed. Always be respectful, tell why there is an issue with examples, have a solution to the problem, be honest, always end with reminding them they asked for your feedback and letting them know they are in charge and you follow their way of doing things until they tell you differently.

TSgt Melissa Post It sounds like you did a good job.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 10:18 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:18:55 -0400

If asked, I would give the commander (generic) honest feedback. My current detachment commander....no. Not because of fear of backlash, but because I would feel like I was wasting my time. He's going to ask, but he only wants us to tell him what he wants to hear.

Response by CW4 William Van Almsick made Aug 25 at 2015 10:21 AM

CW4 William Van Almsick — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:21:57 -0400

As a Battalion Standardization Officer, my boss always ask for good honest feedback. The Brigade Commanders that I worked for also wanted honest feedback.

But....there is a correct way to give feedback. Always have a workable solution when you provide feedback. Always be respectful of any people that you mention in the feedback. Tell the Commander that you want to be part of the solution.

Present the feedback to the Commander in the correct environment. Don't do it in front of the Battalion formation. Utilize the Open Door policy or ask for an appointment.

As a result of providing honest feedback, you might be ask to help implement those changes or you could ask that you help implement those changes. Seize the opportunity to excel.

Sounds like you provided the Commander some well thought out feedback, with solutions. For that you have nothing to be ashamed of.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Aug 25 at 2015 10:42 AM

CPT Pedro Meza — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:42:21 -0400

SrA Melissa Chiles, Sound more like the wife or girl friend asking does this dress make me look big? You have just joined the husband and boyfriend club; welcome!

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Aug 25 at 2015 10:52 AM

CPT Aaron Kletzing — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:52:06 -0400

Yes and I did many times

Response by MAJ Anthony Henderson made Aug 25 at 2015 11:28 AM

MAJ Anthony Henderson — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 11:28:22 -0400

It all depends on the Commander. A lot of Commanders want feedback because it can give them an indicator on how they are doing as a leader as long as the feedback is honest. Some So, as long as you are honest with your feedback and the Commander seems to take what you said to heart keep doing it.

Response by SFC Ken Friend made Aug 25 at 2015 12:38 PM

SFC Ken Friend — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 12:38:11 -0400

Why not! Feedback is one of the best ways to improve yourself and your company, direct and truthful.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Aug 25 at 2015 1:24 PM

PO1 Glenn Boucher — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:24:56 -0400

If asked and as you stated you did it respectfully and gave the email plenty of thought then there is nothing wrong with doing it. I used to give my opinion a lot, maybe that's part of the reason I got stuck at E-6, but as long as its respectfully given, and in this case was asked for then nothing wrong.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:26 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:26:55 -0400

Everything depends on how you look at it. You were asked and even provided alternate solutions, which shows that you aren't just complaining. However, provided your rank, it wouldn't shock me if some took it a certain way.

As you received a response from the commander, it seems as though you are likely in the clear but being wary of who you are talking to always has to be in the front of your mind.

I do commend you on actually providing alternatives. Too often I hear Airmen complain and then when asked what could be done to fix it, I am met with a blank stare. I believe your commander likely sees more of a "go-getter" attitude from you than a complainer.

Response by SFC Terry Murphy made Aug 25 at 2015 1:35 PM

SFC Terry Murphy — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:35:10 -0400

My Battalion Commander once asked me for feedback. As an E-7 SFC, I was Company NCOIC and acting as a Company Commander at the time. While he didn't like the way I told him he was micro-managing the unit, he did respect me. A couple months later he choose me to go to Afghanistan on a fact finding mission, because he knew I was the only NCO that would tell him what he needed to hear, not what he wanted to hear.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Aug 25 at 2015 1:39 PM

SN Greg Wright — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:39:25 -0400

Well if he asked, it'd be kind of a dick move to get upset about it, unless you were disrespectful, which you weren't. So yeah, if asked, I would have done the same.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:50 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 13:50:30 -0400

I NEVER had a problem letting people know my opinion, regardless of rank (just ask my old Chief, lol). IF my CO made the mistake of asking me for honest feedback about a policy/procedure/etc. that wasn't helpful/positive/high speed, I would tactfully address the subject. I've always found that starting the conversation by handing the superior a coffee and beginning with "Sir, you're probably not going to like this answer, but..." is the way to go.

Response by MSgt Marty Hogan made Aug 25 at 2015 2:11 PM

MSgt Marty Hogan — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:11:30 -0400

It also depends a lot on who your CO is. I was in a unit in Panama that received an "Academy Grad" newly ranked Capt. who had implemented a "Cheers & Jeers" box around the unit. I respectfully floated a jeer, describing a specific problem and I offered several credible solutions. Needless to say, this did not sit well with the Capt. and I was given a Letter of Reprimand. After several months of legal wrangling and official redress, the LOR was removed from my record and the Capt. had to apologize to me in front of the squadron. Although it was corrected, I would not wish that experience on any Airman. My only advice to you, instead of going straight to your CO, would be to run the suggestions up the chain-of-command or through your 1st Sgt first, that way you cover your six.

Response by SrA Zack Weber made Aug 25 at 2015 2:19 PM

SrA Zack Weber — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:19:53 -0400

Just as long as it is always following 'Well with all due respect, Sir/ Ma'am' followed but most likely something about lab monkeys.

Response by TSgt Ryan Lee made Aug 25 at 2015 2:21 PM

TSgt Ryan Lee — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 14:21:07 -0400

If you commander has an open door policy and permits your leadership is on-board for anyone to VFR direct to the top, than it shouldn't be a problem. If that is your commander's intentions as far as a level rank structure in the unit, he or your leadership should let you know. When in doubt, always go through your leadership first to give them a heads up that you are going to send the CC an email directly because he asked for feedback. If it is for his eye's only, send it to him after you let your leadership know you are doing it. If you have a level rank structure and it is known, then proceed as you already noted. When I was on staff at HQ AFSOC, we had a level rank structure, I could go directly to the 3-star if I had the answer to something he was looking for. I feel that this type of structure, if everyone is professional about it, always works the best. It gets things done a lot faster and if it is a mission critical that you do not have time to go through all the red tape before you get your answer, it improves response time.
If I had an answer to something my CC asked about, I would let him know, no doubt about it. You did the right thing and I am sure your CC appreciated your feedback!

Response by SGT Donnie Manos made Aug 25 at 2015 3:26 PM

SGT Donnie Manos — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 15:26:57 -0400

Absolutely. Since the feedback was solicited and you did it in a professional and respectful manner I see nothing wrong here. Additionally, you offered alternative solutions which most people seem incapable of doing. As an NCO and in my current position as a member of the command staff I have always seen it as inherent in my position to provide the commander information and feedback, especially if it is solicited.

You did nothing wrong and if you continue to operate in this manner you will go far, SrA Chiles. Good job.

Response by 1SG Jason Fitzpatrick made Aug 25 at 2015 4:16 PM

1SG Jason Fitzpatrick — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:16:04 -0400

He asked for your opinion, you gave him your opinion and examples of different methods or solutions. I don't see anything wrong with what you did, and I hope that you weren't spotlighted for doing it. I guess the answer that I am beating around the bush at is this...If he didn't want your opinion, he shouldn't have asked for it. The people who would shy away from giving honest feedback might want to evaluate their values.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 25 at 2015 4:30 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:30:21 -0400

If NCOs can not be candid in opinions and courses of action, then the system is broke.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 8:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:51:25 -0400

Yes give them feed back they may not like it but at least they know what there NCO'S opinions and concerns are it will make them better in the long run.

Response by SSG Leo Bell made Aug 25 at 2015 8:58 PM

SSG Leo Bell — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 20:58:19 -0400

You did the right thing. NCO's are the back bone and you have to speak up for you and your troops

Response by SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS made Aug 25 at 2015 9:12 PM

SFC Dr. Joseph Finck, BS, MA, DSS — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:12:15 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post A practice which is not often discussed any longer is that of loyal dissention. Meaning, your loyalty is never questioned, but you are unafraid to present alternative opinions and suggestions to the Commander. As a First Sergeant I did this with regularity, behind closed doors, and without ever losing my professional military bearing. From how you depicted this, I would say you are a great credit to the Air Force and its future NCO corps. You presented your opinion with respect and further you followed a great ledership credo, you came not only with an issue, but with three possible sollutions. You upheld a philosophy I believe to be a cornerstone of professional NCOs, you never present a problem without a sollution. Great job Senior Airman Chiles. I would appreciate having a troop with your candor in my charge.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 9:43 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:43:25 -0400

Without a doubt.

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Aug 25 at 2015 9:59 PM

SMSgt Thor Merich — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 21:59:36 -0400

You did the right thing. Commanders need honest feedback. They cant possibly know everything and many times, most folks will not give honest feedback because they are only looking at their next promotion.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 10:29 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Aug 2015 22:29:07 -0400

You did the right thing. You gave honest feedback, provided solutions, and you were professional. And that is what good commanders look for. During my career, many times I have had to address issues with commanders, the good, bad and ugly. I was always honest, straight forward, provided recommendations, and was always professional.

Response by SN Earl Robinson made Aug 26 at 2015 2:03 AM

SN Earl Robinson — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 02:03:57 -0400

This is a joke question right? There is no good outcome that can come from honestly answering a question like that.

Response by Capt Christian D. Orr made Aug 26 at 2015 3:45 AM

Capt Christian D. Orr — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 03:45:40 -0400

As both an enlisted troop and an ossifer, I tended to be pretty bluntly honest with my commanders, while still keeping it respectful, of course. Good on you for having the guts to do the same.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 6:53 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 06:53:42 -0400

I have had the opportunity to work directly with my Company level commander and he was always asking me for advice and feedback regarding property books issues, since I am logistics, that is my job. What you did was what he wanted. Most officers want to fit in and work with the enlisted to even out the workload. If you provide no feedback, how is he to change anything? You gave him what he asked for, I say good job.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 8:01 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:01:39 -0400

I think it's important to let the commander know how Soldiers feel within the unit about any issue. Promotions are sometimes very important to the individual and they should have the opportunity to conduct the ceremony how they feel is appropriate. When presenting feedback to the commander, you have to be respectful, honest and sometimes behind closed doors. You don't want to bring certain issues into the open in front of the entire unit.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 8:45 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 08:45:32 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post I always say, "They can't fix it if they don't know it is broken." Depending on the topic or feedback, I would either 1) Route my suggestion up the CoC (unless I thought that my CoC wouldn't forward it up); 2) If asked my opinion or stance on something, if I have something to say on the topic I have been known to give it. Another policy I have is "Never ask a question that you don't really want an answer to."

Response by Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA made Aug 26 at 2015 9:32 AM

Lt Col Timothy Parker, DBA — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:32:25 -0400

If the commander asked for feedback, I'd give it to him (respectfully). That said, it also depends on his/her personality. What I mean by that is some shoot the messenger if the feedback does not confirm the answer the commander wants or thinks is correct (not all commanders are created equal). So, if your commander seems fair and open to dissent (which they should be) then fire away. Just my humble opinion having been a commander (squadron) and a commander of commanders (group level in the USAF).

Response by LCDR Jeffery Dixon made Aug 26 at 2015 9:58 AM

LCDR Jeffery Dixon — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:58:19 -0400

A good Commander would be thankful for fair and honest feedback. Your colleague may have had a bad past experience. Keeping silent advances no agenda. Trust, especially in the military should be assumed until proven otherwise. Stephen Covey Jr., wrote a book titles, "The Speed of Trust". Great read on the issue.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 10:09 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 10:09:23 -0400

If your commander asked for information, then you give him/her the information. While some CC's ask questions just to ask, some truly want to know the real answers. As long as your did it tactfully, then nothing was done incorrectly. Keep doing what you do. We cannot make this a better Air Force by keeping quiet and pretending everything is rainbows and unicorns when in all actuality, it is mold and mud.

Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Aug 26 at 2015 12:34 PM

SSG Ed Mikus — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:34:09 -0400

as a young solider i never gave feedback unless there was a problem, somewhere around 12 years of service i started providing feedback all the time. I realized that they are either asking for feedback because they care or because they have to. if they care then i will do everything i can to help them and the unit to succeed, if they are doing it because they have to, then maybe they need to read my words and if they make no impact, i don't care either, they can read my words anyway!

My outlook is simple, if someone asks me a question, i will give an honest answer in the most professional manner i am able. Sure there have been repercussions, and i have had to learn a few things, for example, "don't tell the general about unit issues that have not been addressed by the rest of the chain", but after the rest of the reachable command has failed to act for whatever reason (often not by choice) and a 3 star asks, i will delightfully explain the issue to him; hopefully he can motivate the powers that be to fix the issue the other leaders could not affect.

Positive feedback is just as important though, if a change made things better, or if something is perfect the way it is, it is important for leaders to be aware of it. I also like to use these opportunities to offer suggestions for improvements.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 12:47 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 12:47:00 -0400

A Commander that can not take constructive criticism or recommendations usually fosters a toxic leadership environment. Those that dont say anything, or YES MEN, only compound the problem. There are too many yes men in the military.

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 26 at 2015 1:10 PM

MSgt Michael Smith — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:10:18 -0400

Great job! Your Commander asked for feedback and you gave feedback in a professional manner. And you offered a positive solution. Great work. In my career I noticed that it was always the people who were willing and motivated to speak up who got the attention and became the leaders. Speaking out / giving feedback when it is asked for by a higher up shows passion and drive --keep it up -thats how things get improved.

Response by CPO Greg Frazho made Aug 26 at 2015 1:12 PM

CPO Greg Frazho — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:12:54 -0400

It's your obligation to. As you say, you did it respectfully and professionally. There's nothing wrong with that, especially if the boss solicited the feedback.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 1:23 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:23:48 -0400

In my opinion, you did the right thing! As a very Junior Officer & Service Member, I always solicit feedback from PSG and section leaders. They are the subject matter & experts & if they believe that there is a faster, more efficient, a more respectful way to solve a problem then I listen with all ears. A good leader regardless of rank always listens to his soldiers / airman, seaman, peers ect.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Aug 26 at 2015 2:30 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 14:30:47 -0400

"the commander asked us to let him know if we liked doing promotions this way."

And "Would you have told the commander your opinion or would you have kept silent? Was I wrong to be honest?"

Front what you posted, I think you already knew the answer to your question.
But I'll respond to confirm... WELL DONE TSgt Melissa Post

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Aug 26 at 2015 5:02 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:02:43 -0400

If you never say anything, don't expect any change. A commander who surrounds themselves with yes man, is IMHO, doomed to fail eventually. If you are respectful, provide clear examples of alternatives, and a decent reason why. Most leaders will at least listen to your approach. This doesn't mean they will change, but it shows signs of being open to information, that may run contrary to their own ideas.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 5:25 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:25:07 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post If someone ask my opinion I give that. If they are looking for validation and my opinion bruised their ego, they need to own that.

Personally, I have never trusted "yes men". Tell me what I need to know not what I want to hear.

Response by Capt Brandon Charters made Aug 26 at 2015 5:43 PM

Capt Brandon Charters — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:43:44 -0400

Without a doubt. Some of the best commanders I served for were seeking feedback from all levels of their troops. Honest and unbiased feedback to a commander can dramatically change the way units work through systemic issues that could go unaddressed for years.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 5:55 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 17:55:37 -0400

There should be no leader that is afraid of what a subordinate will say. and to punish a subordinate that is looking to improve upon something only shows the UNIT that they better not try anything new and keep their heads down. it goes against all growth management agendas and would show a very poor style of leadership. and also if they ask for it they better be prepared for at least one person to come out and say they messed up. when our Company CMDR would have the NCO PME's we would tell him all the time when and where he messed up but the one stipend on it is we had to have a better solution than what was originally proposed.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Aug 26 at 2015 7:51 PM

1SG Michael Blount — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 19:51:01 -0400

Indeed I would have done exactly as you did. Commanders need to know what effect their decisions have on the troops.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 8:01 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:01:06 -0400

I don't have anything to add to this conversation, but I just wanted to say I gave you a thumbs up because meaningful threads like this one make RP valuable.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 8:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:02:23 -0400

You absolutely give your feedback. It is like the command climate survey, so many people hurry through it and give no feedback. Then they turn around and whine and complain about things. If you do not voice your opinion (in a manner to help) then you have no reason to whine or complain. In reality are things going to change from a Command Climate Survey? Unless it is some major misconduct, absolutely not. BN does not want to hear what lowly Staff Sergeant Herpel has to say about the way that they have been running things the past 12 months, HOWEVER, if I do not use the opportunity to SPEAK it, then I have no room to talk about it. Then there are so many people that foolishly give unhelpful feedback. NO solutions or not even actually identifying the problem. Just stupid feedback that means nothing in the stream of time. HOWEVER, if you take the chance to voice the problems, give solutions that you see, then at least when you are not happy about the way things are going, then you can be the one that said something. If a CDR is open minded enough to receive feedback then you are mistaken to not take that chance. As I mentioned in reality what we have to say in the long run does not matter. Yet, if you have the solution to problem, MAYBE, jussst maybe, they will see the sense in it, and be able to implement SOME of it. Never be silent, be respectful but when asked, let them know, just make sure that it is constructive and not just some foolish comment like "I think we work too much".

Response by COL Charles Williams made Aug 26 at 2015 8:06 PM

COL Charles Williams — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:06:43 -0400

Yes!!!! TSgt Melissa Post I was Commander, more than once, and I did many sensing sessions. The reason I did these, was to find out what the issues and concerns were, that I was not seeing; Soldiers, Families, Civilians. If you really want to know the real deal, you (A) need to ask, and (B) you can't be afraid of what you might hear... assuming you really care and want to hear.
That said, I worked for a Lieutenant General who said "he wanted to hear from us," but when ever you made a comment that was at odds with his position (most), he would public blast you... and then ask "who else has comments." Some people want Yes men/women... and the challenge is knowing the difference.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Aug 26 at 2015 8:57 PM

SGT Jim Z. — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 20:57:33 -0400

From what you wrote not only did you provide feedback which the commander asked for you provided solutions. When I was in I always asked my Soldiers for solutions to the problem or issue at hand. I hope that the commander takes your feedback and suggestions under advisement.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 11:04 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:04:02 -0400

Commanders don't usually ask for feedback if they don't want it. So if they request it, and you feel you have something worthwhile to offer, then yes absolutely give feedback! The way you said your e-mail eas respectful and tactful was pefectly handled. You also added three ways to fix it, or courses of aciton which folllows the time-honored cliche' of don't point out problems without offering solutions! Well done!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 11:34 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Aug 2015 23:34:46 -0400

As a Company Commander, if I ask for feedback I expect and value honest feedback. We don't always see how our actions affect every echelon below us. In my opinion it helps me maintain perspective. It's been a long time since I was a junior enlisted troop. Furthermore, telling me what I want to hear helps no one. Be tactful, respectful, and professional when asked for feedback. You might be surprised the positive effects you can have.

As far as your peer goes, if your Commander is the sort who will ask for honest feedback and then initiate retribution he's not much of a leader anyways.

Response by SSG Toryn Green made Aug 27 at 2015 12:50 AM

SSG Toryn Green — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 00:50:30 -0400

I absolutely would. My command knows that if they want honest, no B.S. feedback that I will give it. It's all about being respectful in the way you present the feedback. I never have been intimidated or "afraid" of rank or position. We are all working toward a common purpose. I also actively seek out feedback from those soldiers serving under me in the same way.

Response by SFC Joseph James made Aug 27 at 2015 3:20 AM

SFC Joseph James — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:20:53 -0400

Honest feedback is the only way an NCO/Subordinate should communicate with their leadership. Only when appropriate of course. There has been times where I request time with my leader to talk to them about an issue and talked to them about my opinion of it. Most times they respect the conversation but there have been times where I was told off. Some leaders can take respectful and well timed criticism while others take it as a disrespect. I applaud you for speaking up, even in an email!

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 9:49 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:49:45 -0400

Sometimes feedback doesn't always make it up to where it should. I think if it is solicited and the Commander wants feedback from people it sounds to me as if he isn't receiving feedback, or may feel the feedback he is receiving doesn't accurately portray the whole story. I think the fact that you addressed topics you weren't happy with and provided alternate solutions that is fine. I mean if you voice discontent with out any solutions you are just whining. So I would say you are fine. Many people are afraid to voice concerns and offer solutions to the CC based off of their position. At the end of the day we are all people working to make a positive impact on the force, be it our duty section, all the way to the DoD. If we stop striving for improvement we are doomed. There is always room to improve due to the fact the force is always changing and there are new requirements coming down. So at the end of the day if there is a problem and you have potential solutions and can deliver them in a polite respectful way, by all means provide feedback when its asked for.

Response by CW3 Stephen Bacon made Aug 27 at 2015 11:06 AM

CW3 Stephen Bacon — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:06:48 -0400

In my day Melissa I would say absolutely. Nowadays, I am out of touch, but am around a few field grades who I don't think are very receptive to honesty and candor. I certainly had no issue with going to a CO with an issue, particularly when it involved soldier's issues. However, some days you eat the bear and some days it eats you. But it is a lot different going up to a commander as a Warrant than it is a Senior Airman. Always! Stand up for what is right, and always do the hard right and not the easy wrong!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 11:27 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:27:27 -0400

It's your job as a SNCO to give honest feedback to the commander when required, requested, and sometimes even when not requested.

Now as an Airman....if I was being asked I would provide it ...otherwise I would funnel up the chain of command.....just my two cents.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 12:27 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:27:49 -0400

The answer to your question is yes. It is ok to provide feedback to your commander and peers alike because that is how we grow and develop as leaders and soldiers. You actually took the necessary and most crutial step to provide the commander with a few different ways. I think what the other airman was trying to get you to see if I can dare to guess is that it would have served you better to try the new way first for a few times then provide your feedback this would've allowed you to see if the new way was wrong or if you were just not comfortable with the change.

Response by TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn made Aug 27 at 2015 12:29 PM

TSgt Tim (lj) Littlejohn — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:29:21 -0400

Over my career, I was often ask for feed back/opinion. I almost always gave as straight up truthful statements as possible, this of coarse hurt more than helped a few times(lol). One of the top 5 complements in my career was by a senior NCO, who said if we went to war I would his first pick, but on peace time day to day basis I was a royal pain the a**! To late I learned the many ways was to tell someone they were fubar and leave them smiling!

Response by SSgt David Walden made Aug 27 at 2015 12:45 PM

SSgt David Walden — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 12:45:33 -0400

Personal integrity requires us to provide feedback if we have something to say.

Response by SPC Alejandro Martinez made Aug 27 at 2015 2:07 PM

SPC Alejandro Martinez — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:07:41 -0400

I think you did the right thing the right way.

Response by Sgt Spencer Sikder made Aug 27 at 2015 4:01 PM

Sgt Spencer Sikder — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 16:01:17 -0400

I believe it's a grave mistake for any leader not to listen to their subordinates. It's those people who carrying out the mission. They know the intricacies of the process or policies and therefore are better able to help focus the discussion on improvements. It is also those folks who could cause a leader to fail. I generally had a great communication relationship with my supervisors (except those when I worked in high school). They would engage in constructive discussion and many times, enabled me to proceed with my thoughts. And for those times that I could not convince them that my way was better, I supported his/her decision because they listened. I wasn't one to walk out of his/her office and say, just do it the boss said so. I would support the boss' by saying something like, "let's try it and see what happens." As the manager, I would always welcome my staff come to me, preferably after trying to convince their supervisor. Many times, the supervisor would bounce the idea off of me before proceeding. I would generally ask what they thought and try to come to some common ground or understanding. I wanted them to make the decision and if successful get the credit, if they failed, then learn how to improve. This would motivate them feeling they had a say so in the mission's outcome.

Response by PO1 Jeff Doan made Aug 27 at 2015 5:04 PM

PO1 Jeff Doan — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:04:05 -0400

My response to the Commanders questions were always..."Do you want the TRUTH, or do you want me to lie about it? Don't ask me to lie!" If they really wanted an honest answer, they would tell me to go ahead.

Response by PO1 Norm Burns made Aug 27 at 2015 6:24 PM

PO1 Norm Burns — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:24:14 -0400

Just my humble opinion: he asked, you answered respectfully. If he is deserving of respect, then he should be glad he was provided with that feedback, particularly since it was offered respectfully. I'm afraid I had a tendency to tell it like I saw it, and sometimes, that was NOT received well.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 6:40 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 18:40:37 -0400

Yes, I have always told my CO's the truth. Even if it wasn't what they wanted to hear. As you did, I also gave examples of others ways it could have been done or another way I have completed something in the past that has worked better, for the unit and the soldiers.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Aug 27 at 2015 7:26 PM

MAJ Matthew Arnold — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:26:09 -0400

Ok, it's fiction but, when Robin (soon to be surnamed Hood) answered King Richard honestly, he ended up in the stocks. ;-)

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 27 at 2015 7:35 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 19:35:41 -0400

The other airman is an idiot. That's exactly what you should do. How would your commander know it wasn't going over well if you didn't type that letter? Just as much as it's your commander's duty to make your work (or, in this case, promotion) meaningful and as pain-free as possible for you, it's your duty to provide feedback to your commander that is constructive toward making future decisions.

Response by SFC Walter Mack made Aug 27 at 2015 9:12 PM

SFC Walter Mack — Thu, 27 Aug 2015 21:12:22 -0400

I can't imagine that you could have done anything better. I would always advise a service member or employee that has a problem to address it professionally, with details, and to recommend realistic solutions. That's what you did. Bravo.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Aug 28 at 2015 12:04 AM

SGT Michael Glenn — Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:04:26 -0400

Yes I would and yes I did!! Many times and much to the dismay of my chain!!! Once we were having a Company inspection while stationed at North fort Ft Lewis just prior to rotating to Korea, The Brigade Commander wanted to come down and see how his "boys " were doing. As soon as word got out that he was coming I was escorted to a room on the top floor and to the back of the building and a guard was put at the door with explicit instructions not to let me out until the danger had passed. The time JUST before this we were out on a maneuver and and I was asked what I thought of it by the BN Cdr to which I calmly replied" Well sir, the way I see it, we are always simulating this and simulating that. Why dont we just go back to the barracks and simulate being in the field". My fox hole was a condo by the time they got done with me!!

Response by SGT Scott Bell made Aug 28 at 2015 2:25 PM

SGT Scott Bell — Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:25:52 -0400

Response by SSG David Dickson made Aug 29 at 2015 7:41 AM

SSG David Dickson — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 07:41:52 -0400

It was solicited, so yes, absolutely. You were in every way the consummate professional. You did not call him out in front of your unit, you did not whine. you presented your disagreement, and provided a possible solution. You have, whether you realize it or not, gained respect in his eyes. He sees your character and moral fiber. He may or may not agree with your conclusions, but you have set yourself apart as a mature professional who has the integrity to stand for what she believes in on principle. FUTURE LEADER HERE FOLKS,well done. Definitely deserving of an Army "Hooah".

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2015 7:48 AM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 07:48:25 -0400

Absolutely. In fact, sometimes I've given commanders feedback even when they didn't ask for it.

If people are unwilling to tell commanders what is wrong in the unit when they are directly asked, you can't really expect the commanders to be able to fix anything.

Response by SPC Mark Beard made Aug 29 at 2015 6:13 PM

SPC Mark Beard — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:13:06 -0400

when asked a question observe access then speak I have always spoken up and still do at work if I can help are make things better

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Aug 29 at 2015 7:00 PM

PFC Tuan Trang — Sat, 29 Aug 2015 19:00:07 -0400

I don't think it bad to give someone a feedback. As long as you don't say something out of line.

Response by SFC Norman G. Mayers made Aug 30 at 2015 3:50 PM

SFC Norman G. Mayers — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:50:15 -0400

The immediate answer to that is absolutely YES. Feedback helps determine the overall climate of an organization and let us know what are we doing well and were we need to improve. Providing feedback is never the issue, is what is done with the feedback once given. Some leaders see feedback as something negative, a means for soldiers to complain about their leaders ability to lead. Good leaders use feedback to improve and learn that they maybe a better way of doing things, bad leaders see it as a tool to categorize individuals who may challenge their mistakes. These days soldiers don't always provide an honest feedback; because they believe and often proven true, that there will be nothing positive that will come out of given their feedback and that some Commanders a not flexible and willing to learn from subordinates.

Response by SFC John Birks made Aug 30 at 2015 11:53 PM

SFC John Birks — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:53:09 -0400

I'm sorry, I've been stewing over this topic for a little bit.. My opinion is all lives matter. Unfortunately the media is playing to one side. Plus our leaders aren't doing anything to squash it. It is a real shame that in this century that we are igniting an issue that was/should have been only read about in history books. I'm tired of people pointing fingers and placing blame on there own F'd up lives and situations. I wrote a check to this government up to and including my life to enable people to speak their minds. It makes me real sad that this is what it is coming to....

Response by SFC John Birks made Aug 30 at 2015 11:55 PM

SFC John Birks — Sun, 30 Aug 2015 23:55:14 -0400

Something is wrong, my app posted to the wrong answer.... Go figure technology....

Response by PO1 Rick Serviss made Aug 31 at 2015 4:39 AM

PO1 Rick Serviss — Mon, 31 Aug 2015 04:39:03 -0400

Yep but is the commander in a position to change anything. If it's policy, probably not except take it up the chain of command.

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 31 at 2015 11:05 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 31 Aug 2015 11:05:46 -0400

An Army that fails to provide feedback to leadership is destined to fail.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2015 1:43 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 01 Sep 2015 13:43:32 -0400

When I ask for an opinion from my peers and subordinates, I want an honest answer....respectfully of course. Some changes people make are not for the better and how would one know if they did not get the feedback. If commanders or senior people are strong enough to ask the question, they need to be strong enough to get an honest answer. A good leader at any rank will always give good advice or feedback to their senior ranks. It is up to them to analyze the feed back and to adjust as needed.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2015 3:07 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 15:07:35 -0400

Integrity first.

In my opinion, being honest, especially when asked for feedback, is a cornerstone of the first of our three core values.

You did good SrA Chiles.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 2 at 2015 8:57 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 20:57:01 -0400

TSgt Melissa Post Well done on not only providing feedback (as was requested) but also by doing it in a respectful and timely manner. Bonus points for providing alternate solutions!

Response by PO2 Sam Messer made Sep 2 at 2015 9:07 PM

PO2 Sam Messer — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 21:07:21 -0400

I have done what you did but straight to my CPO's face. Needless to say quarterly marks went DOWN ! Except for 6 months in Vietnam while stationed at Khe San my works well with others was bottom. So be careful some will accept it as good, others will see it as a shot at them.

Response by PO1 David Crawfoot made Sep 2 at 2015 11:09 PM

PO1 David Crawfoot — Wed, 02 Sep 2015 23:09:00 -0400

Yes, regardless of who it is, if someone wants feedback give it to them. It's not the feedback that may get but you ability to explain it.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2015 5:52 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Sep 2015 17:52:14 -0400

Depends on who's asking. There are some folks who rhetorically open the door for feedback but really don't want it and won't take it even into consideration. For those folks, don't waste your time. In other cases, they're completely open and interested. My 2* senior rater asked me for a sustain and improve for him during my OER counseling. I had no concern about sharing that with him. It just depends on the person.

Response by MSgt Joe Davis made Sep 9 at 2015 10:08 PM

MSgt Joe Davis — Wed, 09 Sep 2015 22:08:49 -0400

If the CC asked for feedback, give it! You did the correct thing and thought out your opinions and suggestions and presented them in a professional manner. As for me, I would have provided the feedback one-on-one.

Response by SSgt Edward Hood made Sep 15 at 2015 7:13 PM

SSgt Edward Hood — Tue, 15 Sep 2015 19:13:27 -0400

Honesty is always the best option. If your chain of command puts their Airman in an environment which does not foster integrity, it's time to talk to the IG.