If a soldier fails a record APFT and then is diagnosed with a disorder that directly affects PRT, is there any way to nullify the test?

2019-01-14T02:01:29-05:00

If a soldier fails a record APFT and then gets diagnosed with an incurable disorder that directly affects PRT, is there any way to nullify the test? I can't find anything in the regs that answers this question. A regular injury or illness, yes, they should be flagged. But this soldier will not be taking another APFT and will soon begin the medboard process. It has also been well over 90 days since the failed APFT. The flag removal itself doesn't really affect them professionally. I think it's more of a pride thing.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 4:03 AM

2019-01-14T04:03:30-05:00

I hope the SM diagnosed condition isn't life threatening. Failing the APFT and being flagged is one thing, but being diagnosed with a condition that will have an impact on your career after the fact is another story...... Hopefully the SM provided the chain of command the documentation from the doctors showing diagnosis and what's affected. Hopefully your chain of command will use common sense and pull the flag. That would be the right thing to do......... But even if it's a pride thing, the SM shouldn't worry about it. At this point and time, the SM need to start getting resume together and start preparing for transition........

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 5:18 AM

2019-01-14T05:18:26-05:00

If they're diagnosed with an incurable illness I imagine an APFT is the least of their worries. If it's something prevents them from passing an APFT or a modified APFT then they will be processed for med board. Otherwise, they will receive a permanent profile and they can pass the modified APFT and the flag will be removed.

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Jan 14 at 2019 8:46 AM

2019-01-14T08:46:45-05:00

wouldn't that get you discharged?

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jan 14 at 2019 12:37 PM

2019-01-14T12:37:03-05:00

Well first of all the regulation says flag must be initiated doesn’t require it to be executed and put in place

So the commander signs it handed to the person who puts it in the shredder regulation follow

Next step would be it’s a commanders action if he chooses to use his discretion and not initiate it based on the evidence in front of him I don’t know of a tank commander that I’ve ever met who would have an issue with that

And I guess lastly if the commander has a discussion with medical personnel in the soldier and the condition is documented as having been in place during the APF tea again it’s at commanders level if you wanted to shred the APF tea and go on about business based on the evidence presented to them I can’t imagine of a tank commander I’ve ever met having an issue with that

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 14 at 2019 2:37 PM

2019-01-14T14:37:21-05:00

The test was given prior to receiving the documentation so the test is valid and the results are valid. If they had knowledge of this condition prior to conducting the test then there could be grounds for invalidating the test.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2019 5:12 PM

2019-07-26T17:12:43-04:00

Similar case. SM informs 1st line to talk to 1SG or CO if SM can take apft on a later date of that scheduled month. SM never have history of apft failure nor does SM ever took an alternate event for a run. SM failed the run by 1 pt ; 5secs. SM engaged to the appropriate channel multiple times weeks before apft to let them know of the unnatural tightness of chest SM is experiencing. Additionally, SM may seem to have developed asthma due to very high pollen count. SM is highly allergic to a lot of environmental stuff and gets allergy shots, not to mention SM have family history of the said condition. SM have been seen once by a different medical doctor since SM’s PCM was on leave. SM was provided an inhaler two days before the apft. Unfortunately, SM was not provided any type of profile since the civilian doctor said he is not the SM’s PCM. SM have to wait two weeks to see the PCM which is two weeks after the apft. So even though SM have credible documentation of the medical concerns. This is a day before the apft, the CO found out about it because SM had to engaged the 1SG since SM have been engaging to the 1st line supervisor but nothing was said and done. However, The CO did not want to give any extension because it could be perceive as favoritism. That was his only reason. In my own option it shouldn’t because it is a case to case basis and SM had mentioned it weeks prior to the event and got since by a doctor. Long story short, that 1st line never engaged the 1SG nor CoC about the SM’s medical concern. Realistically SM lost trust and faith on the overall cOc. Few more appointments after the event SM’s BP have been marginally high, but unusual for SM’s age and weight. SM is flagged for apft failure. SM is an nco P. May or may not lose P status??? (Uncertain since reg is a bit vague). SM have too many job titles and additional duties and have been brought up multiple times that it is making the SM an ineffective leader since SM have to juggle to one or more person. SM is a great nco, but to the cOc SM is just another expendable resources that all cOc cares about are numbers. Could SM escalate this matter? Thank you