If a officer promises a foreign adversary information on military movements is that treason or sedition or is it something else?

SPC Patrick O'Brien — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 10:46:33 -0400

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Sep 15 at 2021 11:04 AM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:04:31 -0400

It is *most likely* espionage. Espionage, when directed against one's own nation, has generally been defined as a treasonous act.

The only reason I caveat as *most likely* is because at this point it is an "offer" not an exchange. It is possible (although unlikely) that this offer was made as some sort of counter-espionage or sting operation. I am very reluctant to immediately state black or white when there is a POSSIBILITY of grey.

Response by PFC David Foster made Sep 15 at 2021 11:45 AM

PFC David Foster — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:45:30 -0400

He could be making promises that he has no intention of keeping to get information out of them.... it's nothing until he actually gives up information.

Response by Sgt Jude Eschete made Sep 15 at 2021 12:40 PM

Sgt Jude Eschete — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 12:40:40 -0400

I know what you're referring to, but no information was given. It is not illegal to tell someone they would not follow unlawful orders. Personally, after the January 6th Insurrection, I can't see how any servicemember can think that what was done on that day was okay in any right. I applaud Gen. Miley for putting democracy first.

The thought that a lame-duck president can make impromptu military decisions kind of baffles me. What's to stop any future president from burning everything down on the way out? Personally, I think wartime powers need to be heavily returned back to congress, and only emergency powers allowed to the president to deploy immediate forces (the whole purpose of the USMC) to critical situations. Anything else for the long term needs to be a decision by congress.

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Sep 15 at 2021 1:22 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:22:20 -0400

Ooh a vague post that we know who it's attempted to be about but sure let's have another post to go with the 50 other...smh.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2021 2:32 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:32:35 -0400

It's being proactive to preserve humanity under a questionably impaired and potentially dangerous CINC. 1/6/21 is germane, and statements by those in the NCA. No declared war = no treason is the bottom line.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2021 9:20 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Sep 2021 09:20:08 -0400

Gee...for whom could you be referring to? I wonder.....

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 19 at 2021 3:15 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:15:26 -0400

If a former grunt who couldn't make it past E4 can't tell the difference between an adversary or a competitor, is that autism or something else?