If a NCO is responsible for what is on their ERB and OMPF, why not give the Soldiers the ability to edit those documents?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 13:08:05 -0400

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 1 at 2016 1:13 PM

SFC Stephen King — Sun, 01 May 2016 13:13:08 -0400

SFC Private RallyPoint Member You would like to think that someone could come up with a better way to have the ability to do this. Maybe someday

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2016 1:20 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 13:20:38 -0400

your career is up to you if you are missing info you need to go to s-1 and have it coorected as long as you have proper doc's to prove it, your prgression in life is not the armies problem its yours, take care of your own buisness

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2016 1:26 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 13:26:12 -0400

Checks and balances

Response by SFC Pete Kain made May 1 at 2016 1:29 PM

SFC Pete Kain — Sun, 01 May 2016 13:29:37 -0400

2 words, stolen valor. Active members are not immune to shall we say inflating their accomplishments.

Response by SGM Matthew Quick made May 1 at 2016 2:10 PM

SGM Matthew Quick — Sun, 01 May 2016 14:10:52 -0400

Is this REALLY a question? Where would the checks/balances be?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2016 2:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 14:43:18 -0400

I've got the access rights to update ERB's. Compared to what we used to have to do this is by far much easier. Yes it's all web based, but it is a pain in the ass!. 1. You have to have supporting docs. 2. Then you have to have the right codes/abbreviations to make sure the right doc is annotated. 3. Then you have to make sure it gets IPERMED. So yeah it may SEEM simple it's not. Giving ALL Soldiers the access rights to the systems to update their own records would be a monumental TRAINWRECK IMO.

Response by Jordan Gaudard made May 1 at 2016 3:10 PM

Jordan Gaudard — Sun, 01 May 2016 15:10:18 -0400

In a way I want to agree with you, but I also understand why the process is the way that it is. I am getting my first look at SFC this year and I've had to update my ERB three times already. Once when I corrected what I felt needed corrected, then when my 1SG and CSM found more things to correct, and finally when I got some of the required documents to prove items on my ERB to get it updated. It is a lot easier for me where I am stationed to walk in and get it corrected, if I had to do this at my last duty station it would not have been so easy.

If you gave SSG and above the ability to update records, which you should be able to trust them in doing so. The biggest issue I can see is adding items that are not necessarily correct or not knowing how to undo a mistake. It may seem minor, but a lot of items on the records can be confusing and if removed it is much harder to recover.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made May 1 at 2016 4:28 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Sun, 01 May 2016 16:28:00 -0400

Quality and Assurance control, just as a starter. There are strict regulations that cover those records and is imperative to keep as many hands of that cookie jar. Is the system frustrating? Yes, but is a lot better that years ago and is - slow like a snail process - improving.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2016 5:09 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 17:09:53 -0400

Because unfortunately some Soldiers aren't honest

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2016 8:11 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 May 2016 20:11:35 -0400

Is this a trick question? We already have enough stolen valor going on amongst non-military and actual actively serving soldiers too. Having S/G-1's and career managers is a checks and balances process aimed to ensure that all records are accurately kept and within the regulations. I understand that some personnel sections have their issues with maintaining documentation and updating records in a timely manner, but giving that power to each soldier would be an extremely bad idea.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 2 at 2016 11:37 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 May 2016 11:37:30 -0400

There is too much room for error if a Soldier has access to update his own records. Not just from Soldiers falsifying data but from Soldiers genuinely making errors when uploading or updating documents. The current way may not be perfect but at least it puts an outside supposedly impartial set of eyes on your records when updating.

Response by COL Charles Williams made May 3 at 2016 11:43 PM

COL Charles Williams — Tue, 03 May 2016 23:43:51 -0400

Good question...

Response by MGySgt James Forward made May 12 at 2016 10:15 AM

MGySgt James Forward — Thu, 12 May 2016 10:15:35 -0400

Seriously, You are kidding right? Nope, those records are FROZEN, if you want them changed you must APPLY with corresponding PROOF to get them corrected.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2017 10:03 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 15 Sep 2017 22:03:20 -0400

I agree that the system is not perfect, but it's a lot better than building a 2-1 file. G1/S1 needs to do a better job in iperming docs... I've seen many soldiers turn in their docs to be permed, but it never happens. We have some AGRs who should not be AGRs, they are extremely lazy even though they are full time and have access to most systems, they get upset when a TPU soldier asks for something. RPACs should also go away... most of them are lazy people.