I saw this cartoon on a friend's Facebook page and immediately felt the need to defend the military. How would you react if you saw it?

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:15:41 -0400

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 5:18 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:18:25 -0400

Very distasteful and disgusting!

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 5:20 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:20:00 -0400

1SG Private RallyPoint Member With the blood dripping and the bloody boot prints, it would make me angry. There are plenty of folks in this country that are disgusting.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 6 at 2016 5:24 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:24:01 -0400

Here they go again. Remember the question: What would "they" do if "they" gave a war and nobody came? This nonsense was used to indict everyone of us who answered the call to serve during the Vietnam War (keeping in mind that the majority of us who served were volunteers). Despite the public outpouring of affection for those who serve ("Thank you for your service") many of us who served in Vietnam harbor a suspicion that the kind of attitude portrayed in this "comic" is still prevalent.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 5:25 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:25:32 -0400

are you f'n kidding me, but no surprise the libral media can do what they want because we fight and die for thier freedom of speech

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 5:31 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:31:20 -0400

I'm glad that those who "just joined for the college money" are long gone. Unfortunately I have a feeling that they're coming back now... I have no use for any soldier who would commit an atrocity just because "they" told him to. But try explaining that to someone who's gone out left field a couple miles. It's pointless. Instead of getting angry over a cartoon like that, I use it as a reminder that we are responsible for our actions.

Response by Capt Michael Greene made May 6 at 2016 5:39 PM

Capt Michael Greene — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:39:50 -0400

Too many things are wrong with this cartoon. Can't even begin to list them.

Does anybody know where this started? I'd like to do something about it.

By the way, I'm the most liberal guy you've ever seen--I'm even a media hack--and I served 20. This is not a "liberal" cartoon...it's a sick person's cartoon.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 6 at 2016 5:44 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:44:33 -0400

Leave it to the liberal media to paint a dirty negative picture about the military. You'd think it was the late '60's, and early '70's all over again.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made May 6 at 2016 5:53 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Fri, 06 May 2016 17:53:20 -0400

Not worth sharing!

Response by MAJ David Potter made May 6 at 2016 6:18 PM

MAJ David Potter — Fri, 06 May 2016 18:18:57 -0400

I personally take issue with this meme. In my experience we generally used less force than we could have even based on ROE. Had we really not cared there would have been no reason to kick in a door we could have leveled the neighborhood or village. We lost kids more often than not because of that restraint. This fits a narrative that allows some to rationalize their perspective which is based on judgment from the safety of a couch watching a war on television. This alone does not really provide context and is a cheap shot. Hopefully the person who posted this served, if not and they believe this then they should have joined and changed the paradigm they believe is true. Choosing to not serve then judging those who do makes one part of the problem. That is my opinion and I am sticking to it.

Response by A1C Melissa Jackson made May 6 at 2016 6:20 PM

A1C Melissa Jackson — Fri, 06 May 2016 18:20:07 -0400

Yeeeeah- that pisses me off A LOT.
I can't even BEGIN to feel anything about this cartoon but anger.

I am AGAINST our current wars because they cost us a HUGE portion of treasure and blood of GOOD women and men- for WHAT?

However, to portray an American service member as
1) indifferent to the plight of the locals
2) being "flip" about the policy because he "just joined to go to college" as if his service means nothing else
3) being too DUMB to know what is going on

This is literally making me SHAKE.
I oppose these wars because of the number of years I worked trying to help those who gave their LIMBS, MINDS, MOBILITY, and STRENGTH for the fight. I worked with them to find purpose for their lives AFTER the wars, injuries, and struggles. I can tell you- a LOT of big ol grown men cried in my office. NOT ONE OF THEM CRIED ABOUT COLLEGE, damnit. The tears flowed the heaviest (no one cried alone in my office!) over the things they SAW and HEARD and SMELLED- and the things that happened to little children.

I'd love to have a few minutes to SCHOOL this cartoonist. :(

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made May 6 at 2016 7:02 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Fri, 06 May 2016 19:02:56 -0400

I hope that I don't have any "friends" who would post some crap like that.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 6 at 2016 7:07 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 06 May 2016 19:07:44 -0400

Damn! That is a Bit Harsh but it is how some view us. We have an old saying in the Navy "Opinions are like Assholes and Everyone has one" Some only see the Carnage we Wrought and are blind to or choose to Ignore all the Good Stuff we do. Also some people are thru and thru Peaceniks, and abhor all violence I understand that. I'm a bit more pragmatic and yes in some situations I have no problem with Violence.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 7:29 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 19:29:06 -0400

Before everybody continues to blame the US media and American liberals for this atrocity of a political cartoon, you should at least know that it was done by a Brazillian political cartoonist in 2007. And as the OP says in the question, he found it on some guys facebook page, not a mainstream media website. So with those facts out of the way, carry on with the US media and liberal bashing.

Response by SFC David Pratt made May 6 at 2016 8:01 PM

SFC David Pratt — Fri, 06 May 2016 20:01:06 -0400

Garbage; or as we say in Boston.... Gaaaah-bidje

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2016 8:03 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 May 2016 20:03:03 -0400

I don't take any pains to hide my liberal bias, but I find this very offensive. I want to send the artist out to go knocking down doors in ISIL areas.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made May 6 at 2016 8:16 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Fri, 06 May 2016 20:16:43 -0400

Goes back to my question about academy grads leaving after commitment ends. Feel they were just using military to get a free education. This cartoon speaks to same issue. Yes I'd defend military but not necessarily the issue that lets media like this arise.

Response by Maj John Bell made May 6 at 2016 8:54 PM

Maj John Bell — Fri, 06 May 2016 20:54:00 -0400

I'm sorry you said you saw this on a friend's facebook page...? Do you mean a FORMER FRIEND"S facebook page?

Response by Sgt Jay Jones made May 6 at 2016 9:30 PM

Sgt Jay Jones — Fri, 06 May 2016 21:30:12 -0400

Didn't we go down this road during Vietnam. SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Response by SPC Rory J. Mattheisen made May 6 at 2016 9:45 PM

SPC Rory J. Mattheisen — Fri, 06 May 2016 21:45:49 -0400

Its a dumb cartoon, no one is standing there rationalizing with a child. This is a result of the people who don't understand what joining the military is, then they come home and go to the bar telling their bullcrap war stories. I run into these jokers all the time. I wear a 101 ABN cap my son gave me for fathers day in 06 all the time and they like to come up and tell me all about how great it was to be a "door kicker" & how bad they wish they could go back. Im like "fucker, I was a rigger, I was on a fuel mission on Anaconda or on a convoy, I didn't kick doors and either did you." Same assholes who did nothing but bitch and cry about wanting to get home for the entire deployment, and how glad they were they never had to leave the wire.

Response by Capt Tom Brown made May 7 at 2016 8:43 AM

Capt Tom Brown — Sat, 07 May 2016 08:43:56 -0400

I couldn't help but feel a flash of anger at this piece of blatant anti-American propaganda but then cooled off after viewing it as such. Would be interesting to know the back story on where it originated, whether from a foreign group of any stripe, or from good old American's exercising their rights of free speech and expression.

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made May 8 at 2016 7:36 AM

SFC Joseph Weber — Sun, 08 May 2016 07:36:49 -0400

At least he could have gotten the 3ID patch right.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2016 4:15 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 May 2016 16:15:46 -0400

This is pure intellectual bankruptcy at it's worse, and smacks of the same type of logic and stereotyping that racists employ. I would ask the person sharing if they also like to unjustly slander other groups like minorities or women. Or why they think the US military deserves such criticism yet they are silent on Boko Haram killing more people than ISIS last year, or on ISIS taking so many girls into slavery and killing those that refused to be sex slaves? Do they support slavery as well? Show them how stupid they look when they play mental gymnastics.

Response by SFC Marcus Belt made May 9 at 2016 10:14 AM

SFC Marcus Belt — Mon, 09 May 2016 10:14:57 -0400

Freedom = The right to do otherwise.

We have done our jobs and defended the freedom to hold dissenting points of view, and this is the result. Freedom is messy, totalitarianism is very very clean.

Rest easy and raise a glass to the freedom we have all defended and this person enjoys.

Response by PO1 Tracy Dreyer made May 9 at 2016 4:16 PM

PO1 Tracy Dreyer — Mon, 09 May 2016 16:16:09 -0400

If you can't stand behind the troops, please, feel free to stand in front of them!

F.O.A.D.!!!!!!

Response by CPO Randy Francis made May 9 at 2016 4:25 PM

CPO Randy Francis — Mon, 09 May 2016 16:25:15 -0400

They wouldn't be a friend of mine if they posted this. I have better things to do than hang out with people with this attitude. You don't need this kind of negativity in your life.

Response by PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster made May 9 at 2016 4:31 PM

PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster — Mon, 09 May 2016 16:31:57 -0400

All I can say that this is 'ticking me off' cause it is way beyond the truth

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 4:39 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 16:39:12 -0400

I'd be pissed too. The 98% of the country don't understand why we serve our country. They don't understand what our jobs and what we accomplish everyday to keep our country safe everyday. Again I'd be pissed if I'd saw this on my news feed.

Response by SSG Samuel Sohm made May 9 at 2016 4:51 PM

SSG Samuel Sohm — Mon, 09 May 2016 16:51:40 -0400

In all fairness...he is in 3ID... (Shrugs)...

Response by Cpl Clyde Sorrell made May 9 at 2016 5:09 PM

Cpl Clyde Sorrell — Mon, 09 May 2016 17:09:43 -0400

i'd punch somebody in the fucking mouth, that's how I'd react!

Response by Cpl Charles Vadnais made May 9 at 2016 5:10 PM

Cpl Charles Vadnais — Mon, 09 May 2016 17:10:42 -0400

I look at this and see someone who probably thinks ISIS, the Taliban, and Al Queda are just "misunderstood"...just my 2 cents...

Response by SPC John Decker made May 9 at 2016 6:13 PM

SPC John Decker — Mon, 09 May 2016 18:13:39 -0400

The people who are training our troops do not understand the very nature of modern warfare. I'm not saying that I do. The fact that our enemies do not fight as an army (no uniforms-no units), makes it hard to train to fight them. Individual morals seem to have been removed from modern warfare. While I will not share this cartoon, I think it is a snapshot of a much bigger problem.

Response by SSG Dereck Davis made May 9 at 2016 6:18 PM

SSG Dereck Davis — Mon, 09 May 2016 18:18:40 -0400

While it portrays something I do not agree with, it is the right of whomever to believe whatever they want about it. Nothing should be done to prevent either side of the argument. Yes, even if it hurts your feelings and talks bad about your Mama.

Response by PO3 Charles Balfour made May 9 at 2016 6:27 PM

PO3 Charles Balfour — Mon, 09 May 2016 18:27:52 -0400

If possible I'd reply with this image.

Response by Cpl Brad MarkW made May 9 at 2016 6:39 PM

Cpl Brad MarkW — Mon, 09 May 2016 18:39:21 -0400

You're kidding yourself if you think that anti-military azzholes don't exist. They do; they've always been there in the back of the room. They've been waiting for this moment- war fatigue - to set in. They've watched with envy over the past decade and a half as the military community has really been pampered with benefit events, discounts, parades, appreciation nights and in general, a high level of patriotism. All deserved, I don't argue that. But for the anti-military, anarcho-communist, Che Guevara T-shirt wearing, pot smoking, mom's basement dwelling azzhole, the time has come when this kind of cartoon is actually getting more popular on progressive liberal websites. And it's going to get worse. They yearn for the time, like the Vietnam era, when they were free to spit on uniformed soldiers coming home in the airport. We're going that direction. Eight year of Obama and now, let's face it, four more of Hillary, that is the future. More cartoons like this, more vets beat up in restaurants and buses.

People are tired of the endless wars, but not of the politicians who create them. They are looking for a symbol of these endless wars and for the guy who never had the balls to sign up and serve, this is his moment. He's watched from across the street, green with envy as the military has been celebrated for a long time and now, he's dipping his toe in the water and with a cartoon like this, testing whether there are similar folks with their view out there. He's going to find sympathizes and they'll band together and call people racist who disagree with them, bigots, when they've silenced the opposition, out come the baby-killer accusations. The US army has its lowest level of active duty personnel since 1940. Let that sink in. Let that sink in as you watch the anti-Trump supporters trash a city in an attempt to shut down a political convention. I am no Trump supporter but the fact is, those protesters were idolized by Bernie and Hillary supporters and social media was alive with enthusiasm for their efforts.

It's going to get worse. If that cartoon offends you, then I have bad news. It's just the beginning.

Response by SGT Michael Sholtis made May 9 at 2016 7:05 PM

SGT Michael Sholtis — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:05:14 -0400

You know what they say about opinions right? The fact is that the political cartoonist has no idea of the pains taken to eliminate unnecessary casualties. Also has no ideas about the American soldiers being that he is Brazilian ! It's an old cartoon (2007) and there are some people who only have taste in their mouths....

Response by 1SG Jack Crutcher made May 9 at 2016 7:05 PM

1SG Jack Crutcher — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:05:59 -0400

It's true for some, I have had soldiers tell me that also. If you are a good solider that's committed and doing your job and earning your money I could care less for the reason you joined the service especially to better yourself. I came in for two years for a bonus and retired twenty years later.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 7:24 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:24:54 -0400

This person obviously has never served in the military for any length of time. We in the military care greatly about the people in our country and many of the countries we have served in. Many of us take care of each other, even if we never served with each other, and served in different services. We have all walked in our own hell, and really cannot compare with each other unless you served in the same unit. We cannot help that we have been effected the environment we were put in; however with many of us we carry that environment with us every day. Nevertheless, it makes us who we are. Therefore, we seek treatment to make the pain better, and help the ones next to us, for we are not alone as long as we talk to each other and get assistance for us.

Many of us had to kill, not that we wanted to kill and that why it affects us. It is not natural for people to kill each other, and so we as Soldier, Sailors, Airman and Marines seek the help we need every day. We do not give up; we keep moving forward. So never give up on yourself, go seek the help, for it really does help in the end. I do know it works for I have walked that road, and I am still on it.

MA1 David M

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 7:29 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:29:05 -0400

So back from deployment. Hope everyone is in good health. This is the first one so in my typical against the grain fashion...
1. No one kicks a door off the hinge
2. We don't front kick as the footprint suggests (or it as at least highly advised against but ok) We donkey kick to avoid booby traps. However good placement for a front kick.
3. That dude bled way to much way to quick when thinking about room clearing and the couch absorbed nothing?
4. The group on the wall suggests he fired direct front but he entered to the dead dudes left. Plus 5.56...
5. Where are his buddies?
6. Why is his weapon still smoking wet or improperly lubed, either way, not ok
7. Who was watching the kid. Literally no one in a house is left alone or un-guarded unless they are dead
8. Where is the flak jacket or kit for you new guys
As far as the caption, yes maybe not okay, but also not accurate, at least in the Marines I have had the pleasure of serving with. Every young door kicker I know prays for the day he gets to draw down on a scum bag at close range, or period really.
That's exactly what went through my head when I saw this. Almost in order. Sorry, but not really.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 7:34 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 19:34:21 -0400

Thanks are just fine, because for one, we don't know the orientation of their familys politics, or whether they served or not. Grow a pair and be dignified, accepting the fact that many did care about Vietnamese Veterans. My dad was called a "baby killer" for being a recruiter.*smacked him for that." Lastly, Americans disparaging our flag now, are in the minority. They get support from Liberal media.

They use terms like, "Merica, Rednecks, etc. This is a sore subject for me. And the ambivalence from this administration. We are not exceptional. We protected their candy butts, while they are watching MTV or Bill Maher. Most do not even know who the VP is.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 8:23 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 20:23:27 -0400

We're always going to have critics. Some of them seem to disagree with our very existence. They're a very small and irritating minority and they don't have any idea as to your motives for joining and serving or mine. Freedom of speech can be a double edged sword and it sucks when you see this sort of thing but at the end of the day, these ungrateful buggers are free to say what they want. Don't let it get your britches in a bunch. They're not you. They don't know your circumstances. We don't need their approval any more than they're likely to receive ours. Take a knee, face out and drink water.

Response by SGT Robert Riley made May 9 at 2016 9:32 PM

SGT Robert Riley — Mon, 09 May 2016 21:32:28 -0400

I can safely say the person who created this cartoon acted on stereotypes regularly dished out by Hollywood and MSM .During my three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, we went to great lengths to not use excessive force in populated areas. I would love to meet this individual and have wall-to-wall counseling with said person.

Response by TSgt Scott Hurley made May 9 at 2016 9:33 PM

TSgt Scott Hurley — Mon, 09 May 2016 21:33:10 -0400

@#$#@%^&^%*&^*&&$*&^%#^&$^&%^*&%%^#$&*^%^%#$$&^%*&^................. That just pisses me off that some lame brain would do that to our military...... If my father, a Vietnam Vet saw this, I am sure he would like to hunt the coward down and put him in Jail... He is a retired State Trooper after all.....

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 9 at 2016 9:52 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 09 May 2016 21:52:40 -0400

This pisses me off this was done be a *hater* of the military

Response by SFC Joe Ping made May 9 at 2016 10:03 PM

SFC Joe Ping — Mon, 09 May 2016 22:03:55 -0400

This is a disgrace to the men and women who serve this country.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made May 9 at 2016 10:21 PM

CPT Pedro Meza — Mon, 09 May 2016 22:21:24 -0400

SFC Nicholas Taylor, yet explain Iraq from the point of view of Iraqian kids, there comes a point in time where we need to own up to Iraq and to the politicians that sent us there. President Bush Senior addressed Iraq on his book and recognized that his son was mislead by those that he trusted, but he also admitted that the final decision fell on his son.

Response by SrA Scott Harris made May 9 at 2016 10:25 PM

SrA Scott Harris — Mon, 09 May 2016 22:25:15 -0400

Sucks for the kid. Maybe the parents should have thought about that before waging jihad?

Response by SSgt Bob Mobbs made May 10 at 2016 12:36 AM

SSgt Bob Mobbs — Tue, 10 May 2016 00:36:53 -0400

Isn't one of the things we fought for is the right (however misguided and disgusting) for people to express their opinions?

Response by SGT Trisha Butler made May 10 at 2016 1:02 AM

SGT Trisha Butler — Tue, 10 May 2016 01:02:59 -0400

Typical. Ignorant people looking for someone to blame. Aren't we always the whipping boy?

Response by SSgt Terry P. made May 10 at 2016 9:09 AM

SSgt Terry P. — Tue, 10 May 2016 09:09:57 -0400

1SG Private RallyPoint Member First Amendment at it's finest.
I do not like this,too much like the cartoons during Vietnam,but i defended the right to do it.

Response by SGT Jay Deckard made May 10 at 2016 11:42 AM

SGT Jay Deckard — Tue, 10 May 2016 11:42:42 -0400

All I have to say is Trump for President!!!! Can't wait baby!!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 11:47 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 11:47:29 -0400

Shits given: 0
We can't fight for a free country, then complain about the freedom in it.

Response by SPC Christopher Wheat made May 10 at 2016 11:48 AM

SPC Christopher Wheat — Tue, 10 May 2016 11:48:19 -0400

Hmm. Firstly there is something called the Ganiva Convention.

So no. The times of solider mindlessly following orders without capability of being held accountable for those actions are long gone.

Our Miltiary is that of a thinking and rational organization where every soldier is expected to know when to decline a direct order should it violate the Ganiva Convention.

Let's we not forget the "I just joined for college" was the mentality of pre-war military. Post war for the most part became part of the volunteer military with a different mind set. Due to the realities of being in a war time period.

Now to answer the actual question. No I wouldn't. It is social media and as such a freedoms of speach. A FB friend can post any thing they like. I will just selectively desire if I am to distanc myself based on conflicting opinions.

Response by SPC Allen Heredia made May 10 at 2016 11:56 AM

SPC Allen Heredia — Tue, 10 May 2016 11:56:46 -0400

In some cases its true....about joining for the school benefits. On the other hand, a soldier like that just needs to be throat punched now and then. Blame the recruitment process.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 12:29 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 12:29:02 -0400

What the fuck are they trying to say?!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 12:30 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 12:30:07 -0400

When I joined it was for my family. Then I got the college part that was my reason to stay in. I been deployed 3 times and would have never thought to do this! This is ridiculous and even further those who are talking against those that do it for college you can get a grip! (the polite and professional way for me to put it) I been in 12 years and know a little something.

Response by PFC Charles Sanders made May 10 at 2016 12:52 PM

PFC Charles Sanders — Tue, 10 May 2016 12:52:30 -0400

The artist that created this cartoon is obviously a misinformed idiot. I would be highly offended if any of my "friends" were sharing this crap. It's pure falsehood and propaganda, plain and simple. Hell, even most of the "atrocities" in Vietnam weren't really atrocities once you got down to brass tacks and got the "rest of the story" as Paul Harvey used to say. This comic was created for one purpose and one purpose only, and that's to make the US look bad. I wouldn't worry to much about it over here, though. That artist will probably be killed in a drug related shootout sooner or later anyway...

Response by Sgt Edward Padget made May 10 at 2016 12:59 PM

Sgt Edward Padget — Tue, 10 May 2016 12:59:58 -0400

Meh, it's meant to stir up the masses. What puzzles me is why the solider feels the need to defend his own character? A soldier's personal feelings about any given situation are just that, his/her personal feelings and I find it highly unlikely that any soldier would feel compelled to defend themselves in a situation such as in the cartoon. It's to easy to sit back and make political statements with a pen and a doodling pad. So easy, in fact, it doesn't even warrant a response.

Response by SGT Ted Bauer made May 10 at 2016 1:01 PM

SGT Ted Bauer — Tue, 10 May 2016 13:01:16 -0400

emotional ,subtle dislike of military people ,veterans ok not that subtle

Response by Brig Gen Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 2:34 PM

Brig Gen Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 14:34:50 -0400

I agree that we show way more discretion in our use of force than any nation before or since. I also share worries of starting down the Vietnam road again. When we have been at war as LONG as we have, I'm surprised we have not seen this sentiment emerging sooner.

Response by SFC Jason Hodge made May 10 at 2016 2:50 PM

SFC Jason Hodge — Tue, 10 May 2016 14:50:24 -0400

Ignore it because its propaganda. Why give it anytime to begin with, its what those that post it want, they want to cause division and they use the military to so it.

Response by SPC Arthur Amey made May 10 at 2016 2:51 PM

SPC Arthur Amey — Tue, 10 May 2016 14:51:50 -0400

Awwww are you butthurt about someone's opinion? That's cute

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 2:55 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 14:55:10 -0400

This is further fragmenting of our Nation. There are good soldiers and dirtbags, good cops and dirtbags, good politicians (well....) and dirtbags. This may apply to some soldiers, but the force needs to police itself, not reflexively defend criticism. Perhaps, if we look at those criticisms, we can be better soldiers.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 3:14 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 15:14:32 -0400

Who cares, it's an editorial cartoon, from a completely different country. What are you going to do, stifle their free speech?

Response by Cpl Brandon Edwards made May 10 at 2016 3:35 PM

Cpl Brandon Edwards — Tue, 10 May 2016 15:35:30 -0400

Why the veterans need to take control...civilians are entitled, sheltered, and naive children.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 4:09 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 16:09:32 -0400

You can't control anything out there really. It's always up to the person walking in those boots.

Response by Bill Dixon made May 10 at 2016 4:52 PM

Bill Dixon — Tue, 10 May 2016 16:52:48 -0400

Sad and pisses me off. If they can't get behind our troops in support, feel free to get in front of them.

Response by TSgt Jennifer Disch made May 10 at 2016 5:12 PM

TSgt Jennifer Disch — Tue, 10 May 2016 17:12:40 -0400

Hmmmm....if an anonymous poll was taken asking what was the motivation for volunteering and staying in, I wonder what the answers would be.....this meme speaks volumes.....

Response by TSgt Jennifer Disch made May 10 at 2016 5:21 PM

TSgt Jennifer Disch — Tue, 10 May 2016 17:21:17 -0400

If I was still active duty I would have come unhinged but, retirement and working in the non federal civilian sector has taught me humility.

Response by SSG Brian Kresge made May 10 at 2016 6:26 PM

SSG Brian Kresge — Tue, 10 May 2016 18:26:35 -0400

Indifferent. People that draw these cartoons are sad because they have to see their wives and our kids.

Response by SSG(P) Ell Pizarek made May 10 at 2016 6:46 PM

SSG(P) Ell Pizarek — Tue, 10 May 2016 18:46:51 -0400

I served our nation and took an oath to defend the constitution. Part of this is freedom of speech, which while I don't appreciate art such as this, it is what it is. When I hear folk talk down vets, I kindly let them know that if it were not for vets who simply displaying a massive military force, we would be speaking Russian. And that in Russia, they would be killed for their actions. Then I tell them that I will pray for them to see the errors in their ways. I also pray that one day we will get politicians in Washington that recognize the moral decay that has fallen on us since we no have national pride.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 7:21 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 19:21:45 -0400

This is B.S.!!!!! I sure hope this piece of #$%@ that drew this is enjoying the blanket of freedom we have all provided for him.

Response by TSgt James Curts made May 10 at 2016 7:48 PM

TSgt James Curts — Tue, 10 May 2016 19:48:59 -0400

It's called freedom of speech, get over it.

Response by Sgt Bonnie Shaw made May 10 at 2016 8:10 PM

Sgt Bonnie Shaw — Tue, 10 May 2016 20:10:37 -0400

More bullshit propaganda from the yellow spined, lily livered, never did nothing, never went anywhere, turds with skin!

Response by SSG Chris Hall made May 10 at 2016 8:43 PM

SSG Chris Hall — Tue, 10 May 2016 20:43:36 -0400

Of course only some panty waste POS that hasn't served a single day in any branch would come up with something so far off the spectrum of reality...

Response by ENS Matthew Fleming made May 10 at 2016 9:12 PM

ENS Matthew Fleming — Tue, 10 May 2016 21:12:14 -0400

It makes me think that society has not really changed at all in 50 years.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 9:42 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 21:42:06 -0400

What a load of deep as if we're killing innocent people. Isis on the other hand kills e ntire families and villages and deems women to be lower then dogs.

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made May 10 at 2016 9:57 PM

1SG Patrick Sims — Tue, 10 May 2016 21:57:20 -0400

You have to remember who your dealing with. ---To the news media soldiers are the scum of the earth, and their lives are worth less than nothing---The media's only interest is higher television ratings and newspapers column inches-----News-men like Edward R. Murrow, John Cameron Swazi, and Walter Cronkite no longer exist. There are no authors like Ernie Pile. Turning soldiers into murders is a Hollywood thing.---its a progressive opinion of people who consider themselves intellectually and morally superior to the rest of us unwashed trailer trash. Perhaps its time for a cleaning house----what do you say we start with our elected officials----Who's with me???

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 10:24 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 22:24:21 -0400

Honestly, there is a hint of truth to it. For one, it shows the intentions of joining the service to go to war was not a priority of the soldier. I'm not too far removed from my time in AIT. Back then, I heard "I need money for (fill in the blank)" quite often. I also agree that the military and our leaders are not inerrant. No one is. Yes, the results can be ugly.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 10 at 2016 10:28 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 May 2016 22:28:39 -0400

Why do you care? At the end of the day people have done things that they had to. No matter why they joined we still have a job to do. I know at the end of the day o have done what is right. So screw the media and this cartoon!

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made May 10 at 2016 10:33 PM

Maj Mike Sciales — Tue, 10 May 2016 22:33:37 -0400

I've seen that many times at courts-martials. The Defendant would always make a plea before sentencing and always said "....and I joined to get the GI Bill so I could go to college....." The statement is factual and correct. Why blame the soldier for executing his or her duty? Why do we engage our troops in "nation building" when they are ill-equipped or trained for the task? Like Condi Rice said in the Jan 2000 Economist about Clinton "The President should be reminded the military is a lethal force...not designed for nation building..." We didn't learn the lesson from Somalia because we sailed through Desert Storm and figured "We got these guys dialed in." We didn't have a clue. We went into Afghanistan to kill Bin Lauden and we did that mission -- ran him out of there. Had some mission creep and we decided to get involved with getting rid of the Taliban, so we helped them do that. Then the mission morphed and we went into a law enforcement mode to help the DEA with their opium interdiction program. Opium had been deemed "haram" (forbidden) by the Taliban and growing it meant death. Then we came and worked on eradication and giving them some other crops under USAID but that kind of faded as we pulled out so the Taliban came back, decided heroin was a great weapon against everybody and heroin production has doubled. Twice the production before anybody did anything. So now the world is awash in cheap heroin. Unintended outcomes. So yeah, that poor bastard probably did join just to get a chance at something better (it's why I joined during Vietnam) and too often he is the guy dealing with all those unintended outcomes.

Response by SPC John Wolff made May 10 at 2016 11:35 PM

SPC John Wolff — Tue, 10 May 2016 23:35:31 -0400

It's just a cartoon, instead of wasting time and energy being offended over something this trivial we could be taking on our government and the VA for the atrocious way in which we as Veterans have been treated. We are the American military machine not everyone likes us or agrees with the job we do. To let ourselves be bothered by something so petty is a bit childish and self serving. It's time to thicken our skin and approach the real dangers to Veterans, and a picture shouldn't even be a blip on the radar.

Response by PO2 Brittney Ryan made May 10 at 2016 11:38 PM

PO2 Brittney Ryan — Tue, 10 May 2016 23:38:52 -0400

Disgusted and speechless.

Response by SGT Jesse Pokora made May 10 at 2016 11:46 PM

SGT Jesse Pokora — Tue, 10 May 2016 23:46:51 -0400

Might be propaganda

Response by SGT Jabearul Haque made May 10 at 2016 11:54 PM

SGT Jabearul Haque — Tue, 10 May 2016 23:54:21 -0400

Waste of time to care. Freedom of Speech.

Response by SSgt Christopher Moore made May 11 at 2016 12:14 AM

SSgt Christopher Moore — Wed, 11 May 2016 00:14:02 -0400

I can understand multiple sides of the argument. While we may have answered the call to serve our nation and defend freedom (and some, quite honestly, to pay for college), it does not take away from the fact that it is politicians that send us to these conflicts, not of our making. And in the such an event that defending our nation's freedom means killing "bad guys", the distinction is of no significance to the orphan child or family members left behind.

It's important to understand that no matter how proud you are of the good you do, no matter how honorable you feel your vocation may be, your enemies have kids too. And those kids don't care about your vocation, your freedom, your justification, politics, money, or anything other than their dead or suffering family members at your (OUR) hands.

Response by SPC Jeff Leonard made May 11 at 2016 1:51 AM

SPC Jeff Leonard — Wed, 11 May 2016 01:51:06 -0400

Wow, just wow. Whoever did this should have the guts to own up to it. I'm particularly upset about the use of 3ID patch. Just cowardly.

Response by CSM James Winslow made May 11 at 2016 2:15 AM

CSM James Winslow — Wed, 11 May 2016 02:15:46 -0400

A very simplistic "cause and effect" statement for a complicated topic. The answer is simple- If you don't bring the fight to those who despise us and want to do away with us and our system of government, they will bring the fight to us. If the child is without a father, maybe the father should have thought about his choices before he made them. Remember, the author of this cartoon is an artist, and artists only illustrate what sells, not necessarily what their own opinions truly are. If we let this get under our skin, we are no different than those Muslims that reacted so violently to the Charlie Hebdo cartoons. Freedom of speech and expression are universal, not only unique to America.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 4:28 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 04:28:24 -0400

It's easy to use the "I was just following orders" excuse but the simple truth is that war isn't pretty. War doesn't just leave dead soldiers, it leaves orphans, dead children, destroyed homes and ask sorts of terrible things. And I think people have the right idea when they hate war, but when they focus it on us, they forget that we're just people. But even so people like this have a right to believe this and if they want to share it then they have a right to do that too. Even if we don't like it, it's wrong to try and suppress them

Response by LCpl Steve Smith made May 11 at 2016 4:44 AM

LCpl Steve Smith — Wed, 11 May 2016 04:44:48 -0400

Here's the political Cartoonist: https://g.co/kgs/qj8rz

Carlos Latuff - Google Search

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 5:02 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 05:02:20 -0400

I think its some punk displaying their twisted view of the way and who we are as soldiers. The same punk, who under the freedoms YOU swore an oath to protect, is allowed to post that without the govt censoring or silencing that punk. Unfriend and ignore if it is such an issue.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 6:21 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 06:21:58 -0400

Probably some liberal asshole!

Response by LCpl William Perry made May 11 at 2016 7:34 AM

LCpl William Perry — Wed, 11 May 2016 07:34:59 -0400

First I would question friends who would even think about sharing this knowing your job and hopefully what it would mean to you and their rest of our brothers and sisters. Second this is nothing more then a lash out at our military by somebody which include ISIS and have to say it was in poor taste for any reporter to go viral with this unless they hate us as much as ISIS.

Response by MSgt Chris Chambre made May 11 at 2016 7:49 AM

MSgt Chris Chambre — Wed, 11 May 2016 07:49:07 -0400

As uncomfortable as it may be, it holds a lot of truth. The blame for killing lies at the door step of Washington DC. The soldiers really only want to live a decent life and love their families. They are indentured servants who must obey.

Response by SSG Vik Polivka made May 11 at 2016 7:50 AM

SSG Vik Polivka — Wed, 11 May 2016 07:50:44 -0400

My response to the commentary on breach, bang, clear, would be short; you missed one.

However, given that not everyone has a sense of humor, I'd point out that with the ROE, the people inside the room had to have been doing something pretty hostile to elicit that particular escalation in force.

Come on, seriously? Blood doesn't leave footprints like that in the moon dust of Iraq, and that couch is way too Ikea looking to be in any part of Afghanistan that I saw.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 8:06 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 08:06:13 -0400

Who cares what some no name cartoonist thinks, Charlie Mike.

Response by CPT Jeff Cambre made May 11 at 2016 8:40 AM

CPT Jeff Cambre — Wed, 11 May 2016 08:40:06 -0400

Bad form

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 8:53 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 08:53:17 -0400

When did we become a bunch of butt hurt individuals that can't see this for what it is. A political cartoon filled with satire based on an individual's personal views of our corrupt government. Last time I checked when I signed up it was to defend a persons freedom of speech regardless if I agree with it or not.

Response by SSgt Dave Libbey made May 11 at 2016 8:55 AM

SSgt Dave Libbey — Wed, 11 May 2016 08:55:18 -0400

Hmmm, can we just get over playing the offended card and move the fuck on. There is no way I can believe that anyone who fought can be this easily butt hurt. It's some Jack wagons opinion, who the actual fuck cares? Now, back to teaching my dog how to fetch me a beer, because that will have actual impact in my life.

Response by SGT Kyle Johnson made May 11 at 2016 9:03 AM

SGT Kyle Johnson — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:03:13 -0400

Look at all the response to this.. The author of this cartoon has achieved exactly what he was after. Even if it was to just stir the pot, or to create a discussion, mission accomplished. I don't support it or have the right to oppose it. It is what I fought for, a country where we sometimes have to put up with this crap.

Response by SrA Joshua Hagler made May 11 at 2016 9:14 AM

SrA Joshua Hagler — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:14:06 -0400

Maybe i don't offend that easy and maybe i understand what is being said here but this "cartoon" doesn't offend me at all.

Response by Sgt Christopher Wenzel made May 11 at 2016 9:25 AM

Sgt Christopher Wenzel — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:25:22 -0400

It's freedom of speech that we upheld with our service. Get over it.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 9:25 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:25:55 -0400

I don't like the picture itself, mostly because of the way the person who is shot is portrayed. Sitting in an arm chair with no weapon at hand. That makes this much worse than it should be. The bottom line of the image however...the underlying truth...does not disturb me. I made a choice in Afghanistan that sticks with me. Somewhere there is likely a child without a father. A widow without a husband. I don't regret it for a second though. It just "is." We are the hammer of the nation. That hammer can build schools and wells and do a lot of good. It can also smash anyone who opposes it. That's the deal. It's what we do. The comment about money and college is unnecessary. It makes this cheaper. You can cut the line about the "good guy" as well. "Good" in war depends on where you sit and which end of the bat you are on when it comes time to swing. The message SHOULD be that the military is the execution of failed politics. War never changes.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 9:25 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:25:57 -0400

Notice how the assumption is this was an innocent guy? Terrorists have kids too. If the people don't want military to defend them they can just disband the full time military. However, I imagine this is not the case.

Response by SGT T Leno made May 11 at 2016 9:30 AM

SGT T Leno — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:30:05 -0400

The left and ignorant (is there a difference) will stop at nothing in their rants against us.

Response by SGT Chris Hill made May 11 at 2016 9:47 AM

SGT Chris Hill — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:47:57 -0400

I'd be pissed that a "friend" would share that picture, clearly showing that s/he finds humor in it. What many don't understand is that we don't choose to go, we go because we swore an oath to support and defend the constitution of the United States, both foreign and domestic. May not agree 100% or want to, but it's part of being a soldier for those still serving. I'd highly hope you unfriended that person. Or at least gave a 3rd degree burn about posting that crap.

Response by MSgt Rob Miller made May 11 at 2016 9:55 AM

MSgt Rob Miller — Wed, 11 May 2016 09:55:17 -0400

Truthfully, I'm wondering why anyone would get butthurt about a cartoon obviously drawn by someone that never served and has an uneducated opinion about those of us that have.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made May 11 at 2016 10:16 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Wed, 11 May 2016 10:16:37 -0400

It pisses me off on two fronts: 1st it alludes to "I just joined for the college money" part, which I heard with a lot of regularity during DS/DS when I was the driver for the Chief of Staff of the 4th ID and we would have to attend a deployment ceremony for some of the USAR units heading to the Middle East, pissed me off to no end, I was stuck at Ft. Carson in the event we got deployed, which didn't happen, and had my younger brother waiting to go across the Berm with 18th Airborne Corps and the 82nd, I honestly wanted to do physical harm to those I heard utter this. The 2nd part is the unit being portrayed, 3rd ID, was my unit when we were at the forefront in OIF and then returned in OIF-III, they portray "us" as being overbearing and committing an apparent atrocity and being flippant in our attitude to a young child. I can tell you we always followed the ROE from our highers and were very careful in how we interacted with all civilians because we were there to help and assist them and to keep them safe from the insurgents we were combatting. I understand this is from a liberal leaning foreign cartoonist that obviously did not support our actions in Iraq, to which I honestly could give a rats ass, but it still pisses me off that this was probably picked up by some liberal media source here in the US and published, which I fully defend, it just shows how a certain sector can't differentiate between the policy and the individual Soldier doing his/her job.........

Response by Sgt Edward Hanat made May 11 at 2016 10:24 AM

Sgt Edward Hanat — Wed, 11 May 2016 10:24:53 -0400

Can't be afraid of a bit of collateral damage...

Response by Cpl Greg Barnett made May 11 at 2016 10:32 AM

Cpl Greg Barnett — Wed, 11 May 2016 10:32:39 -0400

Who cares? It's a cartoon. If a cartoon ruined your day then you need a new pair of panties. You know who hates cartoons and feels the "need" to do something about it? Those ISIS bastards. So go ask them how to get rid of it.

Response by MSgt Richard Rountree made May 11 at 2016 10:49 AM

MSgt Richard Rountree — Wed, 11 May 2016 10:49:59 -0400

Unbelievable! I, for one, am glad FB allows you to group your so-called 'friends' into one or more categorical lists. My categories include, but are not limited to: naive, idiots, trolls, veterans, bikers, liberals, conservatives, family, acquaintances, etc. You get the picture... In this case, if a 'friend' posted this , it would depend on what else he/she put in the comments and, possibly where I have already pigeonholed them. If the 'friend' was already in my liberal list and obviously showed agreement with the artist, my likely reaction would be to ignore them (i.e., consider the source) and then, maybe, add them to the 'troll' list. If my 'friend' was already in my 'conservative' list and had voiced outrage over the cartoon, my likely reaction would be to do nothing. A Colonel I once worked for taught me that doing nothing was often an effective and viable reaction to a lot of things. It wastes less time and let you get on with important tasks.

Response by LCDR Bruce Cooley made May 11 at 2016 10:56 AM

LCDR Bruce Cooley — Wed, 11 May 2016 10:56:49 -0400

It was obviously dreamed up by someone who has never been in the military, and whose only contact with the military is in the form of movies......showing military members as blood thirsty murderers. Obviously, they're idiots! Unfortunately there are far too many people who hold that view.

Response by SPC Burt Epps made May 11 at 2016 11:46 AM

SPC Burt Epps — Wed, 11 May 2016 11:46:29 -0400

I'd say, "Damn, that's a fucked up cartoon" and move on. As you all know, we do what we're told. Truth be told there are some among us that joined strictly with an eye on destruction. You know the guy. Point being, it's a cartoon.....let it go.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 11:55 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 11:55:44 -0400

I think it's actually pretty accurate. A lot of atrocious things happen during war, and most everyone gives it the old hand wave by saying it's "just a product of war" (or some similar platitude/cop-out). It is also the same mentality that cops in the US operate under. Whether it is the enforcement of unjust laws, or the commission of collateral damage against people who did nothing to you (and whose home YOU were in, mind you), the mentality is the same: blame the hierarchy who sent you. But the truly honest and introspective among us ask ourselves the hard question----who bears more culpability? The order giver, or the order follower. Adolf Hitler was a bad person, no doubt about it. But Adolf Hitler didn't kill eleven million people. Hundreds of thousands of loyal followers did.....under a banner of eminent patriotism and an air of moral supremacy, with a nice layer of legality, to boot (see the transcripts from the Wannsee Conference to understand what I mean).

Call it "collateral damage" if you need an excuse. Then ask yourself what your reaction would be if the roles were reversed.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 12:08 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:08:38 -0400

Between 2003 and 2011, 15,138 Iraqi noncombatants were killed as a direct result of US and coalition action. This is not a small number, and thus lends this artistic description a lot of legitimacy. People who use art and the written word to prompt you to think about this kind of stuff aren't questioning your patriotism; how hard you wave your flag or thump your chest has nothing to do with it (although it DOES affect the way you think about a kid losing his family to a UAV strike in a country you didn't even know existed until we invaded it). They are trying to get you to think about it from another perspective, as well you should before you go cheerleading for the next war that comes along. Art imitates life, and the scene in the cartoon shown has been played out in real life. What do you think happens to the kid when he grows up? Does he go work for the US as a laundry worker on the base that existed when his parents were killed, and is still there to this day? Or does he join a group that promises him the opportunity to avenge the death of his family?

Food for thought.

Response by Cpl Justin Mooney made May 11 at 2016 12:10 PM

Cpl Justin Mooney — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:10:52 -0400

I think all of you taking offense to this is whatnot wrong with our country!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 12:14 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:14:18 -0400

Well, I'm guessing someone certainly has an ill-conceived and biased notion of the military.

Response by TSgt Richard Adams made May 11 at 2016 12:19 PM

TSgt Richard Adams — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:19:11 -0400

WTF....

Response by Steven Gemmer made May 11 at 2016 12:34 PM

Steven Gemmer — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:34:27 -0400

Looks and sounds like a John Kerry message SO Disrespectful

Response by SSgt Tony Sinagra made May 11 at 2016 12:53 PM

SSgt Tony Sinagra — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:53:32 -0400

It's horribly offensive and distasteful. It's disrespectful to all who've served/are serving. *SIGH*...it's also the product of a small-minded idiot with no real understanding of the military exercising his/her right to free speech--something I swore to protect and defend.

The irony can be tiresome. But I wouldn't change it. The problem these days is too many people want to distort the Constitution to fit their causes, or amend it to suit their needs. It's fine as is, folks.

The cartoon is, IMHO, rather hateful and ignorant. But rather than act like a raving liberal and scream for all traces of the cartoon to be erased on social media, I prefer to accept it as free speech (repugnant as it is). I love my freedom. I'd be loathe to infringe on anyone else's rights.

Response by Denise Rhodes made May 11 at 2016 12:59 PM

Denise Rhodes — Wed, 11 May 2016 12:59:33 -0400

I was an Army civilian worker in a child development center for 16 years, my husband is a disabled Army veteran retiring after 38 1/2 years of federal service both in and out of uniform. I would sometimes see these cartoons and I wondered if the people who drew these cartoons realized that the children I took care of would see these cartoons and then wonder does this makes my mom or dad or sometimes both wrong in their chosen career choice. Now don't get me wrong I'm a big supporter of Freedom of Speech but when that freedom extends to libeling persons then that's where I draw the line.

Response by SGT Hugh Bowman made May 11 at 2016 1:24 PM

SGT Hugh Bowman — Wed, 11 May 2016 13:24:53 -0400

I probably would of been pissed off

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 1:45 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 13:45:12 -0400

Don't be so offended. Some of us do kill people. They even pay us a little extra to do it. Tax free. Great deal if you ask me !

Response by SGT William Howell made May 11 at 2016 1:50 PM

SGT William Howell — Wed, 11 May 2016 13:50:15 -0400

Rock of the Marne!

Response by SPC Rob Clements made May 11 at 2016 2:13 PM

SPC Rob Clements — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:13:45 -0400

If that child was the child of an American liberal and the soldier saved his life, than the narrative would be different. Americans fortunately have never had to deal with adverse military conditions affecting their lives, so they haven't a clue what must be done to maintain freedom. I cringe when I think what our military will look like when all we have to choose from are "safe space hippy kids" to defend us. Others hate us for being so free and powerful, they will show no mercy if they attack us.

Response by SSgt Jeff Smith made May 11 at 2016 2:13 PM

SSgt Jeff Smith — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:13:50 -0400

This is totally bad news and big time misrepresentation of our military family

Response by CW4 Larry Curtis made May 11 at 2016 2:43 PM

CW4 Larry Curtis — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:43:13 -0400

It is difficult for many of us to see something like this without becoming angry...and not angry with the military, but with those who propagate that this kind of mentality is what motivates us. In my limited experience, the people who propagate this nonsense would not wear the uniform and serve their country. This puts me in the mood to throat-punch someone...

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 2:46 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:46:45 -0400

Pure absolute and total garbage protected by the first amendment. I choose not to be angered outraged or offended by it. Let it fade into obscurity. Nobody's feelings including ours are meant to be sheltered from harm. We don't need a safe space.

Response by SrA Tony Dighera made May 11 at 2016 2:47 PM

SrA Tony Dighera — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:47:35 -0400

Far too many have this exact same compartmentalization in their rationale.
It follows over, you see cops saying the same thing.

If it makes someone THINK about the moral cost of their self-directed actions, I think it's a good thing.

I far more respect an unrepentant killer who says he loves his job than a coward who blames others for his actions...

Response by SSG Steven Cody made May 11 at 2016 2:54 PM

SSG Steven Cody — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:54:38 -0400

This cartoon is stupid. If that kid's parents weren't shit head terrorists he wouldn't be an orphan.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 2:55 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 14:55:34 -0400

Very sad and absolutely doesn't paint the picture of the vast majority of our Military. HOWEVER and sadly, this scenario played out many of times across both theaters of operation time and time again. A sad side effect of war especially when its unintentional or worse when you let the wrong people into the military. Tasteless? yes. Freedom of Speech? "This we'll defend"

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made May 11 at 2016 3:12 PM

CPT Ahmed Faried — Wed, 11 May 2016 15:12:05 -0400

I vehemently disagree with the opinion expressed by the cartoon but even idiots have a right to their opinion.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 3:16 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 15:16:34 -0400

liberals are the most ignorant and prejudicial group of people

Response by CPT Ricky Walters made May 11 at 2016 3:20 PM

CPT Ricky Walters — Wed, 11 May 2016 15:20:25 -0400

Look son, now your Butthole will not hurt as much, I killed those rat bastard parents and uncles of yours.

Response by PO3 Richard Stuckmeyer made May 11 at 2016 3:55 PM

PO3 Richard Stuckmeyer — Wed, 11 May 2016 15:55:42 -0400

How ridiculous can a cartoon be? Only a non-vet could ever think this.

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made May 11 at 2016 4:03 PM

SGT Kevin Gardner — Wed, 11 May 2016 16:03:23 -0400

I am looking all over this picture for the artists signature, I really want to give the guy a free dental operation.

Response by Davey Barton made May 11 at 2016 4:47 PM

Davey Barton — Wed, 11 May 2016 16:47:36 -0400

Hyperbole and half truths; that's all the left cling to.

Response by CPO Brian Pederson made May 11 at 2016 5:08 PM

CPO Brian Pederson — Wed, 11 May 2016 17:08:24 -0400

Sounds good to me. In my wars, there were no innocents.

Response by SFC Laurie Schultz made May 11 at 2016 5:23 PM

SFC Laurie Schultz — Wed, 11 May 2016 17:23:55 -0400

Drawn by a clueless idiot who's never served

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 5:35 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 17:35:26 -0400

How about let's not blame any Americans and only those who woke up that morning with the intent to murder Soldiers.

Response by SGT David Soyka made May 11 at 2016 5:56 PM

SGT David Soyka — Wed, 11 May 2016 17:56:54 -0400

Today alone on Facebook I've seen "Get that bitch back in the kitchen where she belongs." "That's what a nigger gets for opening his mouth." and my personal favorite, "Who cares, she's just a mexican."

Ignorance strives to be accepted. It's loud, it's proud and it's infectious if you let it be.

When I see stuff like this or the aforementioned idiocy I just write that person off. "You are beyond my help. I could waste my time trying to educate you but I'd rather invest my energy in something that will actually bear fruit. You are an ignorant turd."

But like SGM Vidakovich said...ignorance and freedom of speech are a right that are constantly being paid for.

You're free to your opinion and I'm free to ostracize you and attack your viewpoint but for the most part, people on the internet love 'shock and awe' tactics and spout off with hugely outlandish things in order to bring attention to themselves in a Kardashian-esque bid for notoriety.

Beneath notice.

Response by SN John James made May 11 at 2016 6:29 PM

SN John James — Wed, 11 May 2016 18:29:17 -0400

I support it because I support the Constitution, but I don't agree with it at all.

Response by SP6 James Rose made May 11 at 2016 6:38 PM

SP6 James Rose — Wed, 11 May 2016 18:38:43 -0400

I can't tell you how many times I felt this way on funeral detail. I folded flags and presented them to the next of kin for 180 days. Flags folded for a war for profit. Even those who just joined for the college, VA benefits (I did it for the VA loan for a house) the eventual price was too high. We defended freedom abroad on crap intel. We got rid of 2 super bad guys who were close buddies with the chuckleheads who gave us the orders to take them out. We've been had and we know it.

Response by SFC Jessie Miller made May 11 at 2016 6:56 PM

SFC Jessie Miller — Wed, 11 May 2016 18:56:13 -0400

I'm an 18 year EOD Vet and we went to Iraq to protect our oil deals and prices(that went way wrong). we went to Afghanistan for Osama and the Taliban that we trained to fight the Russians in the 80's, who used circuit boards for IEDs that where designed for no other reason made by us. on my last two deployments we had to get approval over the radio to fight back, if we didn't get permission we just picked up our wounded(if we had any) and left instead of kill the enemy. Our president apologizes to them, we kiss their asses, we rebuild their country, and our country(state department) sends hundreds of billions to these countries. we should be wiping the planet clean of all these people and I mean true believing Muslims. if you have read the Quran and studied Islamic and Sharia law you would too. they want to kill, rape or enslave anyone who does not believe as they do and want to cleans the world of all of them. a true Muslim is nothing more than religion of hate, so religion of peace can kiss my ass.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 7:07 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 19:07:44 -0400

If you get offended by this cartoon, you need to get out my damn Army!

Response by SFC Dan Hess made May 11 at 2016 7:09 PM

SFC Dan Hess — Wed, 11 May 2016 19:09:15 -0400

Your friend isn't much of a friend if he thinks this is funny. You may need to educate them on several different levels. When and if they can pick themselves up again, I doubt they will post Bovine Scat like this again. Yes there is a first amendment, but there is also a legal term known as fighting words. If there isn't Oh well. JMHO

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 8:34 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 20:34:07 -0400

There are plenty of guys who ARE the guy in the cartoon.

Response by SSG Jeff Carlisle-Tierno made May 11 at 2016 9:16 PM

SSG Jeff Carlisle-Tierno — Wed, 11 May 2016 21:16:04 -0400

I'd disassociate from this 'friend', and leave it at that. Arguing with idiots is futile and pointless.

Response by Sgt Tim Cravens made May 11 at 2016 9:21 PM

Sgt Tim Cravens — Wed, 11 May 2016 21:21:11 -0400

Disgusting

Response by SPC Thomas Bourland made May 11 at 2016 9:31 PM

SPC Thomas Bourland — Wed, 11 May 2016 21:31:21 -0400

Stack left, one two three breach flow in establish dominance identify threats and neutralize them as they appear... in a matter of a few seconds a team member has to decide who lives and who dies... yes the image is graphic but so is modern warfare, which in my opinion should never be clean nor sterile. As to remind society of the true cost of sending men and women into harms way.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 10:00 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 22:00:44 -0400

ouch, words hurt me... its just words written by some jack ass who has never even considered service. let them speak, because that's why we do this right? All we can do is just sit back and laugh at their ignorance.

Response by COL David Turk made May 11 at 2016 10:08 PM

COL David Turk — Wed, 11 May 2016 22:08:02 -0400

What's to defend.
It's a political cartoon, and one apparently done by one with less experience. Usually, political cartoons are trying to direct the reader to a single thought (point), however it looks like this author is divided between the, mercenary of the individual soldier, and the politicians in DC. Should have stuck with one bubble.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 10:13 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 22:13:22 -0400

I think war is the main antagonist portrayed here. A lot of young guys do join to get help with education, I don't think it's the only reason, but its certainly a contributor. No soldier I have ever met joined to kill, we joined to be part of something more.

Response by SSG Drew Cook made May 11 at 2016 10:46 PM

SSG Drew Cook — Wed, 11 May 2016 22:46:32 -0400

Being a liberal, I'm going to defend the military and country I served here. 99% of the joes I led or served under would never obey an unlawful order or not question a potentially immoral or unjust action. Just like most of you will never murder someone in your lifetime, there are still a few among you who will.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2016 10:47 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2016 22:47:55 -0400

When stuff pisses me off, and that happens quite a bit these days, I just remember that we all served so people could express their opinions without fear of going to jail for it. This cartoon represents political speech. That is exactly what the constitution wanted the first amendment to protect.

My advice? Don't let stuff like this rent space in your head.

Response by SGT Trevor Sahlstrom made May 12 at 2016 12:05 AM

SGT Trevor Sahlstrom — Thu, 12 May 2016 00:05:34 -0400

Its graphic sure, but not untrue. Hell I joined for collage but found a family I never knew I didn't have. I can recall moments in my service where I may have created a enemy by my actions. I can see how something like this can happen in real life. In the way we recruit especially.

Response by PVT Brittin Lang made May 12 at 2016 12:11 AM

PVT Brittin Lang — Thu, 12 May 2016 00:11:18 -0400

put the poster of this trash in camo without a rifle AND SEND THEM TO THE FRONT LINES.

Response by PVT John Williams made May 12 at 2016 12:11 AM

PVT John Williams — Thu, 12 May 2016 00:11:29 -0400

Whoever drew this should be drawn and quartered.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 12:42 AM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 00:42:33 -0400

We swore to defend their right to post such blasphemy, so let them think the way they want to. As far as friends, I would reconsider this friendship, or at least speak to them 1 on 1.

Response by AN Lance Murdock made May 12 at 2016 2:17 AM

AN Lance Murdock — Thu, 12 May 2016 02:17:04 -0400

Got the part right about the Politics
Right ..

Response by CPL Tyson Burns made May 12 at 2016 2:43 AM

CPL Tyson Burns — Thu, 12 May 2016 02:43:22 -0400

Some fucking friend you got there.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 4:17 AM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 04:17:13 -0400

Just because someone joined to go to college or what ever the case may be.. the politicians in Washington are just that.. in Washington. You should still exercise basic morality and judgement in certain situations.

Just my two cents.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 4:23 AM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 04:23:19 -0400

Like it or not, regardless of your personal reasons for joining the military, we fight wars and kill people on the orders of politicians. Whether you believe it is right or wrong, the fact is we deploy to the other side of the world, kick people's doors in, and kill them.
-USMC Major

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 4:42 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 04:42:42 -0400

I'd like to see the artist's name in the drawing.

Response by SFC David "Tex" Willis made May 12 at 2016 5:19 AM

SFC David "Tex" Willis — Thu, 12 May 2016 05:19:12 -0400

Those of you that don't like this, it's because the truth hurts. We are all politician pawns in the military. Research, follow the money trail, and by all means open your eyes.

Response by SSG Mark Dial made May 12 at 2016 5:25 AM

SSG Mark Dial — Thu, 12 May 2016 05:25:25 -0400

Ridiculous, example of how bad the state of our country is in right now. The lunatics we have as leaders right now (starting with our president) have open the door to the insane asylums. Those who hate this country should leave immediately and head to a country that they like. Sad thing is most country's won't accept them.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 5:51 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 05:51:08 -0400

It is far more honorable to answer ignorance with silence then to lower yourself to that level. The argument cannot be won, but the battles can be. That's our job. Give em their first amendment rights and grow thick skin.

Response by CPL Darryl Crouch made May 12 at 2016 7:07 AM

CPL Darryl Crouch — Thu, 12 May 2016 07:07:16 -0400

One of the recruiting tools for the military is funding for college. Anyone remember when that annual funding was at $4,500 per year three or four years back? The last I saw it was at $4,000 annually. That is where the anger should be, dwindling benefits for the sacrifices that service members endure. It just happens, people wanting to use the military to advance their lives and families also end up dead, injured or facing combat situations. The cartoon displays an aspect of the reality a person wanting to join the military for college benefits needs know. Because the military itself is not going to show the reality of the situation.

Response by CPT Barry Kaufman made May 12 at 2016 7:08 AM

CPT Barry Kaufman — Thu, 12 May 2016 07:08:47 -0400

This cartoon really pisses me off. That's my reaction.

Response by PO1 Bill Adams made May 12 at 2016 7:27 AM

PO1 Bill Adams — Thu, 12 May 2016 07:27:45 -0400

Hey, don't look at me kid. Your dad blew up a school room full of little girls yesterday. We just sent to allah for judgement.

Response by SP5 Derrick Pinkerton made May 12 at 2016 7:45 AM

SP5 Derrick Pinkerton — Thu, 12 May 2016 07:45:03 -0400

Meh. Can't get mad over what mentally deficient liberals do or I would STAY angry. We all know this is first order BS. Besides, this is the US and we have the 1st Amendment. We vets have laid it all on the line to protect the freedom to do just this. We are fighting against powers that would KILL the cartoonist who drew this. I find that more appalling than the cartoon.

Response by SCPO Kenneth Myers made May 12 at 2016 8:06 AM

SCPO Kenneth Myers — Thu, 12 May 2016 08:06:38 -0400

Dumb as hell. I wouldn't even give it the time of day. Just someone trolling.

Response by 1LT Aaron Barr made May 12 at 2016 8:19 AM

1LT Aaron Barr — Thu, 12 May 2016 08:19:42 -0400

Ahhhhh, that special feeling we veterans know when someone uses the very freedom we protect to both Monday morning QB us and bash us for doing so....

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 8:31 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 08:31:54 -0400

WTF!

Response by PO3 Adam Finley made May 12 at 2016 8:34 AM

PO3 Adam Finley — Thu, 12 May 2016 08:34:06 -0400

This cartoon was obviously drawn by a politely hack, who's sheer intention was to draw on the most base emotion of the public at large. To this a response is not really warranted, just a head shake and move on.

Response by SSG Dennis Grossmann made May 12 at 2016 8:46 AM

SSG Dennis Grossmann — Thu, 12 May 2016 08:46:52 -0400

I can't see it.

Response by SGM Lonnie Durand made May 12 at 2016 9:22 AM

SGM Lonnie Durand — Thu, 12 May 2016 09:22:32 -0400

Defend it. Realize this is what it is, another stupid cartoon, some political hack taking a shot at something he/she knows nothing about, being a Soldier. Whatever, we know better.

Response by TSgt Todd Kuikka made May 12 at 2016 9:34 AM

TSgt Todd Kuikka — Thu, 12 May 2016 09:34:12 -0400

As controversial as it may seem, I think it holds some key social perspectives. First, freedom of speech. Next, I spent 14 years and five combat deployments wading through the worst of human responses to conflicting views. Case and point; death is a very real result and cost of war...and so is the very real resulting remorse and moral conflicts that label service members as "mentally ill." After trudging through children's body parts, causing a lot of hurt and death, and being a part of that human response...this cartoon brings to light the very real feelings that many claim. It also points out the making of an enemy. I saw it a lot...to make a "justified, motivated, and effective enemy", just kill their family. This is not just "our" generation...it is a historical reality for all who have fought honorably. That is what I see conveyed here...despite the honor of service, there are ugly results for those that are willing to carry out the orders of the governing. Lord knows the governing would be impotent without the honorable carrying out those orders. It can also be perceived as a "posse comitatus" issue within our own borders.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 9:37 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 09:37:16 -0400

Really who cares? People stop being offended so much. We need to stop worrying about being offended and let other people speak their minds. Lastly who cares what some Brazilian Cartoonist thinks about America anyway?

Response by SSG David Kaelin made May 12 at 2016 10:21 AM

SSG David Kaelin — Thu, 12 May 2016 10:21:01 -0400

I see many truths in that cartoon.

Response by COL James Stevens Roach made May 12 at 2016 10:39 AM

COL James Stevens Roach — Thu, 12 May 2016 10:39:26 -0400

The cartoon implies that the soldier had just entered the building behind him and killed at least one unarmed man and now explaining his actions to the crying boy. Obviously drawn by someone who has no experience or idea of the realities of combat. Soldiers may join the army for a variety of reasons, including college, but in the middle of any armed engagement, those reasons for joining and the remainder of reality fade to nothing. Your mind is totally focused on surviving and keeping those next to you alive... no time or interest in other topics. SECOND POINT US Military do not kill unarmed civilians - I understand there have been exceptions My Lai in the Viet Nam War, but even that atrocity was reported by OTHER SOLDIERS. When American soldiers are in a third world country, and are confronted with poor villagers, it doesn't take longer than a few days before they are making their own plans on how to help the village. And sometimes that means stealing some concrete or other building materials from their base. But US Soldiers do it anyway. In every country I served (Viet Nam, El Salvador, Colombia, Mexico, South Korea, UAE, Afghanistan) US Military members volunteer to help the local orphanages. We (the US Military) protect women and children. And this is not a function of training, but of our culture. But it is obvious that this cartoonist has formed his concept of the US Military from some of the propaganda that Hollywood puts out.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 10:58 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 10:58:39 -0400

This "Artist" Idolizes Jubba... he has comics of Jubba killing our boys! Lot of anti-American / anti-Christian garbage. So go to your friends house and throat punch his esophagus into oblivion for supporting the death of our brothers. He has a right to free speech, and we have the right to our own methods of "expressing" our emotions. Jihadi Propaganda.

Response by SP5 Christopher Aviles made May 12 at 2016 11:05 AM

SP5 Christopher Aviles — Thu, 12 May 2016 11:05:11 -0400

I find it in poor taste. But, here in America, we don't blow up newspapers or behead cartoonists.

Response by 2ndLt Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 11:45 AM

2ndLt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 11:45:42 -0400

As a reader, it enrages me, and I vehemently disagree with this view point. But it is their right to post things like this, and I personally would probably just unfriend them. No use in wasting energy trying to change one another's viewpoints if you never will be able to.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 12:12 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 12:12:49 -0400

Inaccurate. Needs to show the people inside with bomb making materials and plans on attacking innocent civilians (with kids that age) in a market, all the while holding hostage some neighbors kid to force his parents to be a suicide bomber. That sounds more realistic.

Response by Sgt Marty Stovall made May 12 at 2016 12:21 PM

Sgt Marty Stovall — Thu, 12 May 2016 12:21:57 -0400

I think most of the posters are missing the mark here. This was created by a Brazilian. So it is meant to be seen through the eyes of the child depicted or the countries we decide to "intervene" in. Of course if you were/are in the military you are not going to like it but "good morning" this is how some in the world view us. This has nothing to with the work we do and everything to do with the lives we affect. Yes we sacrifice for our country, but what monsters do we create in that service? Yes the American military is mighty and should be feared i get that. But how long will it take until the other 6 plus billion people of the world decide to test how mighty? Will the next generation be locked in eternal struggle because of the choices made by us (and our leaders)? But hey what do I know?

Response by SSG Tim Everett made May 12 at 2016 12:28 PM

SSG Tim Everett — Thu, 12 May 2016 12:28:39 -0400

On a personal level, it's distasteful, incorrect, and I wouldn't acknowledge it or try to "combat" someone's point of view. I wouldn't unfriend them, either. That's for butthurt chldren who want to live in an echo chamber of their own similar points of view. I like diversity, I learn things.

On a wider level outside my lane, this isn't even from the US. It's from Brazil, and it's like 9 years old. And a lot of people outside the US are absolutely pissed off about how we conducted ourselves at points throughout the GWoT.

And they have that right. As do all Americans. If you don't like it, move out and draw fire. You signed up to defend, among other things, freedom of speech and freedom of the press. You don't get the luxury of saying which of our citizens can and cannot, in their idiocy, abuse those rights.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 12:53 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 12:53:54 -0400

I just have to make myself laugh at this. While it hurts a little inside due to the fact we never could fight as aggressively and efficiently as we're trained and equipped to so these situations would be avoided. It's unfortunate the media ignores the fact that we put ourselves at higher risk in battle and suffer greatly so that others hopefully won't and even with that, sometimes the wrong people got killed. That's war, and that's why it's supposed to be the very last option as all others already failed. I would love to see the ultra liberals put in the same situation and see what measures they would find themselves willing to take just to save their own lives. That's the huge difference between us and them, the people who would except the worst possible lives to live rather than die for what's good and right in the world would be a far greater danger to everyone around them if put in the situation of kill or die. Those of us who have served and been in that situation understand what they don't and it's a simple thing really, there are worse things in life than dying. Just my opinion.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 1:17 PM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 13:17:17 -0400

Though I dislike the cartoon, I have this wonderful ability to IGNIORE it. As I do with many things I don't like. Freedom of speech means I don't try and stop others from expressing their opinions. Its a double edged sword any way you look at it. So March on.

Response by SPC Sean Kennedy made May 12 at 2016 1:33 PM

SPC Sean Kennedy — Thu, 12 May 2016 13:33:15 -0400

"If I saw it"? I see it now and it's disgusting

Response by PO2 Kayla Modschiedler made May 12 at 2016 2:22 PM

PO2 Kayla Modschiedler — Thu, 12 May 2016 14:22:49 -0400

Mostly the folks who post stuff like this have zero clue about what they're talking about

Response by PFC Rob Swofford made May 12 at 2016 2:29 PM

PFC Rob Swofford — Thu, 12 May 2016 14:29:24 -0400

Maybe some people are spending too much time trolling and looking for things to bitch about and not enough time and energy on work and improving the lives and well being of their peers and loved ones. There, im done.

Response by SrA Robert Duvall made May 12 at 2016 3:04 PM

SrA Robert Duvall — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:04:21 -0400

why does this offend anybody? partly it is true and a reality that some folks who joined didn't imagine going to a war zone and were just looking for some security financially and college money. i'm not offended and i'm a veteran

Response by PV2 Alaina Norman made May 12 at 2016 3:04 PM

PV2 Alaina Norman — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:04:41 -0400

ouch, who ever made that clearly doesnt understand

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 3:10 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:10:25 -0400

We all know this cartoon is way off base because;

We fight in body armor, eye protection, gloves and both hands on the weapon!

This is simply an outrage and asking for a 15-16 and possible revoke of this troops SGLI should that crying MAM pull out a Makarov.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 3:11 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:11:13 -0400

I would blame the politicians for sure. Like the Vietnam War, it was another messy role with many questionable agendas behind it. People who serve to get the benefits out of it is not wrong. If people don't like where our country is heading then we definitely have to start looking into the politicians that run this country which most people don't want to delve into because politics already is so ambiguous because we try to cater to everyone's beliefs and moral agendas which makes this nation weak.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 3:12 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:12:03 -0400

Bottom bubble should say "I just joined because I was tricked into thinking that I am defending American freedom. I guess I am really just here so someone's net worth can go up a few percentage points"

Response by SSG Jennifer L. Smith made May 12 at 2016 3:15 PM

SSG Jennifer L. Smith — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:15:19 -0400

Here we go again... 'The military and law enforcement are bag bad brutes or they take the young and ill-educated and make them governmental monsters; Let us disarm them [insert rant here].' The iconic Greek playwright Sophocles once noted that we should not kill the messenger [servicemember in this case]; Therefore, IF one has an issue with the military or existing law, how about upholding American values and working for the desired change via advocacy and legislative venues?

That was rhetorical, as the cartoon merely voices an opinion that a number of people hold and most are unwilling to do the work needed to affect the change they demand. Free speech is often sickening, but God bless our willingness to value that principle regardless of disdain. We acknowledge issues may still exist/terrible mistakes may happen in war/law enforcement, but we do our best to address them, all while undertaking the life-and-death walk of our professions with honor.

Response by SFC Adam Miller made May 12 at 2016 3:17 PM

SFC Adam Miller — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:17:00 -0400

I don't like it but have allowed for differences of opinion. What I find more troubling is these same people are telling me to shut up because they disagree with me.

Response by Maj Walter Kilar made May 12 at 2016 3:47 PM

Maj Walter Kilar — Thu, 12 May 2016 15:47:22 -0400

America is still a free country, so I have the right to be pissed at this, and others have the right to hate the military based on one stinking cartoon. I would be okay if we went back to the draft and made all the crybabies earn free college.

Response by SFC Lucky Lynch made May 12 at 2016 5:05 PM

SFC Lucky Lynch — Thu, 12 May 2016 17:05:16 -0400

I think it is in poor taste...

Response by Rick Haberman made May 12 at 2016 5:18 PM

Rick Haberman — Thu, 12 May 2016 17:18:56 -0400

I completely disagree with the concept, but understand the Freedom of Expression. I'd say that the insignias should be those of the FBI, DEA, ICE, Treasury and the other bureaucratic controlled armed goons, not the military!

Response by TSgt Gerald Wilson made May 12 at 2016 5:28 PM

TSgt Gerald Wilson — Thu, 12 May 2016 17:28:42 -0400

I'd tell my friend about the kind of people (in reality) who just got shot in that picture. And then I'd compliment him on the classy gesture of simultaneously vilifying the soldier and satirizing one of the best ideas our jaded society has embraced in quite a while: the notion that the warfighter should not be alienated even in an unpopular war. That cartoon is just plagiarizing worn-out rhetoric from Vietnam - about what I'd expect from some third-rate history prof. The modern dissident is pretty boring...

Response by Maj Gen Richard Comer made May 12 at 2016 5:35 PM

Maj Gen Richard Comer — Thu, 12 May 2016 17:35:10 -0400

Get a new friend.

Response by SrA Charles Norton made May 12 at 2016 6:29 PM

SrA Charles Norton — Thu, 12 May 2016 18:29:08 -0400

It's hypocrisy to suppress the very freedoms we fight for.

Response by SSG Joseph Henderson made May 12 at 2016 6:44 PM

SSG Joseph Henderson — Thu, 12 May 2016 18:44:05 -0400

Don't like it but we defend their right to do it. We defend all of the constitution for everyone and all opinions. It's their right just like its my right to call them a douche bag!

Response by SPC Daniel Cruz made May 12 at 2016 6:48 PM

SPC Daniel Cruz — Thu, 12 May 2016 18:48:27 -0400

I didn't join for college. Do/did I consider myself and one of the good guys...yes.
Blame Washington DC? Sure, they're definitely guilty of lots of things. I let those that aren't pleased with military service or anything that has to do with the armed forces, to go on their way....the further the better. I cannot explain it to them if they already got their mind made up.

Response by LCpl Howard Huffman made May 12 at 2016 7:29 PM

LCpl Howard Huffman — Thu, 12 May 2016 19:29:43 -0400

IMHO This cartoon is attempting to illustrate the perspective of the child in this scene.

Response by SGT Jake Perry made May 12 at 2016 7:50 PM

SGT Jake Perry — Thu, 12 May 2016 19:50:15 -0400

I'd say his parents shouldn't have been poking the bear. Bears fuck you up.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 8:15 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 20:15:19 -0400

There are cartoons that portray the military in a negative light, sure. This however is a right US citizens are given in the first amendment. Along with these cartoons though, there is a plethora of cartoons and literature that is very pro-military. Everything can't be on our side. Not everyone is going to agree with us. That's just how it is.

Response by SSgt Tim Hoofard made May 12 at 2016 9:00 PM

SSgt Tim Hoofard — Thu, 12 May 2016 21:00:36 -0400

I will admit I originally had this viewpoint........until after I joined. Then I learned what it REALLY meant to be a part something bigger than "just a paycheck and college tuition." Many people have joined originally for the same reason as the quote in the cartoon, but then learned that it was not the real reason at all. Anyone who got out after 2-4 years just for that reason, didn't belong there in the first place, so I would agree with the disgust of the majority; but again, some (including myself) never learn until they have been a part of the military and assume the pride and accomplishment that comes with it.

Response by LTC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 10:04 PM

LTC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 22:04:47 -0400

Grotesque. But anyone who gets their entire perspective of American fighting men from a poorly drawn cartoon probably isn't worth arguing with.

Response by LCpl Chris P made May 12 at 2016 10:10 PM

LCpl Chris P — Thu, 12 May 2016 22:10:03 -0400

It has merit. I joined for college money. I went open contract. By the grace of god I was assigned as an admin instead of a grunt. So yeah. This is a great cartoon and it has a call to action "blame the politicians in Washington".

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 10:53 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 22:53:05 -0400

Ehh, I don't really care because people are gonna believe what makes them happy. If they are trying hard to make themselves feel good by bashing military with the way out of "left" field garbage then so be it. Get it "left"field???

Response by PFC Jon Hestness made May 12 at 2016 11:46 PM

PFC Jon Hestness — Thu, 12 May 2016 23:46:07 -0400

Not real happy the the #rd ID patch is not correct

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2016 11:59 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 12 May 2016 23:59:12 -0400

There was this movie The American President with Michael Douglas. He has a great speech in the movie that applies here.
"America isn't easy. America is advanced citizenship. You gotta want it bad, 'cause it's gonna put up a fight. It's gonna say "You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can't just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the "land of the free"."
Somewhere along the line we began to equate the idea that being offended is the same as having your rights infringed upon. That simply isn't the case. Somewhere along the line we started to believe that our rights have not limitations and that isn't the case either. There is no law that says you cannot offend others nor is there a law that says you cannot be held responsible for what you say. An example I give all the time is that you are completely with in the law to go and tell your boss off. Yet your boss is completely within the law to fire you for it.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 12:03 AM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 00:03:02 -0400

As much as I disagree with this cartoon, we'd have to understand that people will have different opinions of what the military means to them. We can't bash them for it, rather just prove to them the military is more honorable than they believe.

Response by SFC Mark Lathan made May 13 at 2016 12:06 AM

SFC Mark Lathan — Fri, 13 May 2016 00:06:35 -0400

If it pisses you off, and you want to do something about it, then you have played right into their hand.

If you really want to hurt whomever published this, you will ignore it, ignore them, and get on with your life.

You have better things to do with your life, than to get into a pissing contest with a troglodyte.

Response by PO3 Gordon Greninger made May 13 at 2016 12:18 AM

PO3 Gordon Greninger — Fri, 13 May 2016 00:18:28 -0400

React? Obviously the work of some liberal arts major with one of those classroom educations that some pinko commie institution of higher learning (probably K.U.) sold him/her as being "comprehensive". Just smart enough to parrot on command but to stupid to realise the machine will just draft your arse when the volunteers stop taking your place.

Response by Joshua Williams made May 13 at 2016 2:28 AM

Joshua Williams — Fri, 13 May 2016 02:28:43 -0400

I don't know. I mean I don't particularly see anything wrong with it. It's not inherently wrong. However, it does paint our soldiers as terrorists. But after my grandpa got back from Korea, he had some pretty harsh words about politicians and wars in general. But yeah, I agree with the first comment about being free to criticize as they would like. That being the case, Americans have more responsibility to ensure what is being said is true.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 3:31 AM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 03:31:59 -0400

That's not a U.S soldier the flag is on backwards lol.....

Response by SPC Antoni Henricksen made May 13 at 2016 4:58 AM

SPC Antoni Henricksen — Fri, 13 May 2016 04:58:45 -0400

They have the right to say it, and to display it and I will defend their right to it, but do I find this cartoon despicable and reprehensible yeah, but that is my opinion, Still, that does not mean it is not deserving of a hearty and heart felt "F.U."

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 6:26 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 06:26:23 -0400

3ID not appreciated the referral

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 6:54 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 06:54:34 -0400

Liberal Agenda... not to mention making it look like people join primarily to get free college. The only thing that is relatively accurate is that it is the Government that orders us to go to war, though admittedly, I am sure accurately stating a fact is not the context for which that part is intended to imply.

Response by PO2 Trevor Odom made May 13 at 2016 7:01 AM

PO2 Trevor Odom — Fri, 13 May 2016 07:01:02 -0400

Here's how I see it, the war in Iraq and Afghanistan was, is, and will always be a disaster. While I would gladly pick up my rifle again to serve the country in a true war of defense I have little feeling that my service in Afghanistan made any positive impact on the average American. That being said, the people I served with were some of the finest people I have ever had the pleasure to know. I fully support the public condemning the war and demanding that we pull our brothers back home where they belong. I draw the line when people insult my brothers. This person has every right to post this meme, but they should know how distasteful it is.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 7:20 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 07:20:22 -0400

This highlights the ongoing and everlasting effort to educate and overcome stupid liberal ignorance.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 7:45 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 07:45:47 -0400

Wtf

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 7:56 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 07:56:34 -0400

It does it's job well of creating dialogue amongst the people who support or disagree with the image and it's message. It is also a right we, as servicemembers, fought and fight to defend. As to the image, it makes me realize that truly the majority of the people outside of the true military net- servicemembers, their families and direct non-military friends) don't have a clue as to what we do, except for fighting wars. They don't know of the humanitarian efforts, both home and abroad, that we accomplish. They don't understand the intelligence that comes behind a raid; that a national killed might have been researched and verified as a threat to this Nation. All they see is headlines that illy tell the story, the truth of the matter, to make a quick buck or two. So know when you see images like this, you protected and protect the right for an individual to do and say so. But you also protected and protect your right to speak out against it. I just recommend doing so in a manner that reflects positively on your branch of service, your fellow brothers and sisters in uniform, and this Nation we bleed to defend.

Response by SSG Ramon Rosa made May 13 at 2016 8:04 AM

SSG Ramon Rosa — Fri, 13 May 2016 08:04:07 -0400

I'm all for the freedom of speech and civil rights , however the cartoon exposes a very limited scenario that is not the rule but the exception as the tendency of the American soldier is to be morally correct and straight when the conditions allows it.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 8:45 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 08:45:17 -0400

I think people need to stop being defeatist.

Response by SPC Michael Keigan made May 13 at 2016 9:08 AM

SPC Michael Keigan — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:08:46 -0400

Hell yes, that wasn't my attitude when I joined and it isn't today, either. Besides, the footprints from walking through pools of blood is way over the top. Probably some yanker, doe hole who never served was the artist. A person has the right to lip off about anything, but if you haven't walked in those boots, then don't expect the people that have to respect your opinion.

Response by SPC Michael Bailey made May 13 at 2016 9:21 AM

SPC Michael Bailey — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:21:15 -0400

My honest $.02, one of my buddies had something like this happen during my second tour. Chased a trigger man for an IED and killed him in front of an 8 year old girl.

He was and is a good guy.

War is ugly. It pisses me off that we are judged by arm chair generals and political ideologues who would become a quivering mass of uselessness in the same place.

But... Free speech.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 9:37 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:37:19 -0400

that is wrong on so many levels

Response by Arlene Frances made May 13 at 2016 9:37 AM

Arlene Frances — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:37:29 -0400

Per one of the comments, this is from 2007 and by a Brazilian cartoonist. If he's right, enough said.

Response by SFC Alfredo Garcia made May 13 at 2016 9:47 AM

SFC Alfredo Garcia — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:47:18 -0400

Disgusted, disappointed at their ignorance and glad they have the 1st amendment, warts and all. These comics mean different things to different people even outside its target audience or message. It gives me the opportunity perceive what others think even if their thoughts laudable or laughable. I think suppression makes like minded individuals coalesce in secret and who knows what can come of it. Openness as given to us by the 1st amendment gives opportunity to share and educate therefore possibly clarify misconceptions.

Keep in mind- I am ALWAYS right at least ten percent of the time.

Response by SP5 David Scott made May 13 at 2016 10:02 AM

SP5 David Scott — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:02:45 -0400

My point of view? I can not really say, but it would appear to feed the 'hippie generation' wannabies idea.

Response by CPL James Phillips made May 13 at 2016 10:08 AM

CPL James Phillips — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:08:45 -0400

The comic angers me, but that's okay. Just because I am angered by it's imagery of U.S. soldiers in a negative light doesn't mean that whoever posted/created or agrees with it is doing anything wrong. The first amendment give the people the right to be critical of anything and everything. When we lose sight of that is when we start becoming a socialist nation.

Response by SGT Eric Blust made May 13 at 2016 10:12 AM

SGT Eric Blust — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:12:50 -0400

Response by SSG Paul Costner made May 13 at 2016 10:31 AM

SSG Paul Costner — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:31:19 -0400

I respect the author's right to free speech. With that said, this is a cartoon designed to do one thing, piss off vetrans by belittling our sacrifice and that paid by our brothers and sisters. It initially succeeded in raising my anger, but, as with all inane and uninformed opinions, I will just scroll on by. I urge my brothers and sisters to do the same. Leave the butthurt to the sensitive, whiney, no backbone having individuals we selflessly served.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made May 13 at 2016 11:33 AM

SrA Edward Vong — Fri, 13 May 2016 11:33:06 -0400

It's not far from the reason I joined honestly.

Response by MAJ Eric Neumann made May 13 at 2016 12:07 PM

MAJ Eric Neumann — Fri, 13 May 2016 12:07:45 -0400

It's the left. They just can't help themselves. Their parents were spitting at returning vets from Vietnam.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 12:27 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 12:27:47 -0400

Just my opinion~ It is pretty clearly a fact that our fellow service members have been put in a bad position over and over by the civilian decision makers. From Viet Nam, to Beirut, to Iraq, we've seen troops doing their best to carry out impossible missions. American lives (and others) destroyed for questionable motives or extremely bad decision making. So--I'm afraid there is a little bit of a point there.

Response by SGT Tony Quilici made May 13 at 2016 12:33 PM

SGT Tony Quilici — Fri, 13 May 2016 12:33:08 -0400

Now why was the Soldier kicking in the door and shooting the "father" in the first place? Could it be that said Soldier was briefed there was suspected persons cacheing ammo/weapons and providing a safe house for insurgents/terrorists. Then upon entering the home, the "father" fired upon the Soldier and yet can not see the weapon used by the "father", as the artist does not want people to think of how the scenario truly played out.

Response by SR Tyler Stewart made May 13 at 2016 12:47 PM

SR Tyler Stewart — Fri, 13 May 2016 12:47:54 -0400

It takes a special kind of person to do this kind of work. You can't second guess yourself, otherwise those thoughts will consume you and lead you down a dark path.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 1:20 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:20:38 -0400

See the thing is the dad most likely deserved it.lmao

Response by SGT Jeff Bean made May 13 at 2016 1:28 PM

SGT Jeff Bean — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:28:45 -0400

Disagree and dislike this meme. It's simplistic and highly inaccurate.

Do idiots have the right to agree with and post this? Of course!

Just as I have the right to tell those idiots that they are simple and incorrect.....

Response by LTC Donald Lee Hackle made May 13 at 2016 1:36 PM

LTC Donald Lee Hackle — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:36:15 -0400

This jackass cartoon shows a lack of understanding of our soldiers. Granted, we often serve in a cause with we do not agree, and that IS the government at times (like right now), but not our system. Service in the military is a great way to get to and through college but it is certainly not the purpose of serving. I had a soldier tell me at the start of the ODS air war that he did not join the Army to fight. I asked him why he joined and he said for the education. I told him "Congratulations, history class is about to start." This is a cartoon like John Kerry would draw, if he wasn't busy selling nukes to the Iranians.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 1:54 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:54:45 -0400

Carlos Latuff is a Brazilian freelance political cartoonist. His works deal with an array of themes, including anti-Zionism, anti-globalization, anti-capitalism, and anti-U.S. military intervention

Response by SSG Ronald Lowe made May 13 at 2016 2:23 PM

SSG Ronald Lowe — Fri, 13 May 2016 14:23:33 -0400

I would punch him in the balls.

Response by CPL Wilfred Roberge made May 13 at 2016 2:54 PM

CPL Wilfred Roberge — Fri, 13 May 2016 14:54:26 -0400

Well I had a friend from middle through high school, she was the type who was easily swayed by "propaghanda" and started posting videos supporting Hammas showing "Isreali War Crimes" and I had to explain to her that nothing is "Black and white" over there and that "under the laws of land warfare" or "laws of war" (she was angry and upset about Isreal "illegally" attacking supposed Palestinian Schools and Hospitials) those places become legitimate and legal military targets since they were used to store weapons and launch attacks from. She wouldn't buy it and kept saying "Where else are they supposed to do it from?" She then posted a video of an "Illegal Isreali Air Strike on Palestinian Ambulance" (there just happened to be a camera crew there to tape it too, lol) and in the video there was no Chopper or Jet noise, no blast noise, just the sound of an explosion coming from UNDER the ambulance and it didn't even flip over. Just a bunch of crying and screaming, basically they staged it, and she said I was wrong.
She is the type who is swayed by cartoons like the above. I hate it, we aren't, we take care of our own wounded as well as the wounded enemy, I always made it a point when I was in Iraq, I wrote letters to two 4th grade classes that although I never left the wire, I did hospital security and that we took care of Iraqi Children too, we were't heartless, I told the 4th graders about the Iraqi Boys and Girls I met. I will always remember them.
This Cartoon just makes it seem like the shooting of the adult the child is crying over was so indiscriminate but he could have been the head of an insurgent cell or an IED making cell (even though to the boy he is just "dad").
I cannot tell you how many of the patients at the Hospital when I did Hospital Guard were "bad guys" i.e. enemy (others were just local nationals who came to the base asking for help) they were shot by us and we treated them, this picture is highly slanted and biased as there would be medics likely treating the guy getting him ready for a med-evac so they could question him later.
I don't like the cartoon, it paints US Troops as unthinking Robots who only join for $$$ not for duty.
I would try to explain to my friend that this is not the way it usually goes down (if we put a hole in you, we treat you, not put a hole in you just exit the room robotically).

Response by SFC Craig Mcdonald made May 13 at 2016 3:12 PM

SFC Craig Mcdonald — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:12:49 -0400

Unfortunately, there is a lot of truth in this no matter how disgusting. Young people don't join anymore to get something out of service, many do it to get a paycheck and college money ( which 40% of two year enlistees never use); single moms to get the benefits and escape the ghettos, yet still are not able to learn how to keep from being a slut. Then you have the DC and Pentagon whores that only fight to keep WallStreet and the contracting machine well oiled. Wars are not fought with the idea of actually winning anymore. They are fought just to keep the money flowing. Then to top it off you have the President of the Muslim Brotherhood who is willing to sacrifice American young people and muslims that do not bow to whatever ideology he was told to believe today.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 4:09 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:09:32 -0400

I think it is showing the truth. I don't care either. We joined and we all knew the risks. If we were lied to, who cares anymore. Kick in doors and do what has to be done. If I was the home owner, I would fight back. If I was the one kicking in doors, probably do it different. not our country. not our say. Let China come here and kick in our doors and see if you don't fight back. We could have done a lot of things different but we didn't. Can't take it back either. We need to learn from it and go from there. 2007 this was made? By a Brazilian? No wonder why it is wrong though. The artist wasn't there.

Response by MSgt Chad Smith made May 13 at 2016 4:09 PM

MSgt Chad Smith — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:09:55 -0400

interesting his helmet has the 3ID patch

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 4:27 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:27:53 -0400

It's pretty goddamn funny!

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 4:36 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:36:55 -0400

This is how most of the country under current leadership views our military members. I've been told repeatedly since the media over inflated rape cases on military college campuses years ago that "all of them (service members) are just a bunch of assholes and rapists" so I'm pretty sure this is another attempt to make the military seem worse to cut funding further.

Response by MSG James Strickland made May 13 at 2016 4:42 PM

MSG James Strickland — Fri, 13 May 2016 16:42:33 -0400

This is clearly another liberal attack on the military. Liberals can attack anyone - it's their right. Conservatives are said to have phobias if we respond. Trump for President

Response by LCpl Dennis Carey made May 13 at 2016 6:30 PM

LCpl Dennis Carey — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:30:09 -0400

First of all the " cartoonist " most likely never served in the military ! The cartoon is insipid ! He has identified himself as an ungrateful person ! Respond with your opinion ! Also what he does not seem to understand is MOST people join the military because their parents served and are Patriots !

Response by Thomas Stangl made May 13 at 2016 6:38 PM

Thomas Stangl — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:38:08 -0400

I looked at this pic for quite a few moments longer than I thought i would. All I could see was if the pic depicted the vet shooting himself in the head afterwards that it would show what the actual damage our politicians inflict on the sons and daughters or others. It is a tragic pic and would only be allowed on facebook if it was an American Solider instead of a terrorist.

Response by MSG Franklin Mclelland made May 13 at 2016 6:43 PM

MSG Franklin Mclelland — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:43:18 -0400

That cartoon is horse crap.

Response by SPC Adam Kuykendall made May 13 at 2016 6:59 PM

SPC Adam Kuykendall — Fri, 13 May 2016 18:59:33 -0400

Speaking as a veteran, I joined because my country was at war.

Response by CPO Jason Pepino made May 13 at 2016 7:49 PM

CPO Jason Pepino — Fri, 13 May 2016 19:49:48 -0400

Anything that makes you question what you do and why you do it is good.

Response by Jay Smith made May 13 at 2016 7:54 PM

Jay Smith — Fri, 13 May 2016 19:54:48 -0400

My response would the cartoonist is a Liberal Idiot who flaked out and now spends time in his parent's basement leaching off the tit of his parents who are most likely retired Military.

Response by Sgt Tammy Wallace made May 13 at 2016 7:57 PM

Sgt Tammy Wallace — Fri, 13 May 2016 19:57:50 -0400

it's distasteful...however, I am curious...how did you react to the post?

Response by CPL Neil Blakeman made May 13 at 2016 8:22 PM

CPL Neil Blakeman — Fri, 13 May 2016 20:22:12 -0400

The sad part is in alot of ways this is true. Not that they don't care about the people they kill, but that there is a very large number who join for the college. They don't expect to go to war (because they refuse to understand the reason of military forces) and are surprised when they are sent. We don't wish to kill others (most but not all) we are put in situations where its kill or be killed. The government puts us in those situations. There is blood on my hands as much as there is most of you. Everyone has there reasons for joining and there own way of coping. Yet i like to belive that most of us do not take it as lightly as this depicts.

Response by CPL Daniel Schwinge made May 13 at 2016 8:28 PM

CPL Daniel Schwinge — Fri, 13 May 2016 20:28:34 -0400

Typical Liberal hype

Response by SPC Paul Wilbert made May 13 at 2016 8:32 PM

SPC Paul Wilbert — Fri, 13 May 2016 20:32:41 -0400

Hooah... Funny tho

Response by SSG Fernando Ramos made May 13 at 2016 9:50 PM

SSG Fernando Ramos — Fri, 13 May 2016 21:50:38 -0400

Whether you like or not this post is a reality and is the reason why we have so many ex-military members serving in prison today :-(.

Response by CPO Carlos Martinez made May 13 at 2016 10:37 PM

CPO Carlos Martinez — Fri, 13 May 2016 22:37:35 -0400

I find it offensive and shameful, BUT I support the right to expressed their opinion even if it is not of my liking. We fought to defend that very right to be obnoxious and offensive. But Freedom of speech includes the right to be a distasteful class A A-hole.

Response by SPC Jack Creekmore made May 13 at 2016 10:43 PM

SPC Jack Creekmore — Fri, 13 May 2016 22:43:30 -0400

Looks like some Liberal Jihadi supporting garbage to me.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2016 11:04 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2016 23:04:10 -0400

At the risk of sounding off with a highly unpopular opinion...I think that it is important that Soldiers understand what the Armed Services have become, rather than what we would like to think that it is. I have 10 years of Active Duty service (Have questions about my rank? I have answers, fire away), I remember my Oath of Enlistment, I know that my duty is to uphold the Constitution and defend the people of our country. I know the Soldier's Creed and I understand that I am supposed to be "a Guardian of Freedom and the American Way of Life". Yet somehow, over those years of honorable service, I have returned home to find my country tearing itself apart. The people are buckling under the weight of high taxation, while the higher echelons of society, the "too big to fail banks", and corporations are all being bailed out and given ridiculously large sums of money. I see our Constitution ignored and all but forgotten, and our "inalienable rights" under the gun of Globalist legislation...

Could it be that we've been played? Are we now just a cat's paw for the Global Agenda, Central Banks, and the UN? Do any of you feel as though you are defending freedom? I certainly haven't...not for a long time. Examine your leadership, examine Washington DC...Can you still obey such callous men with blind loyalty?

Response by SPC Dennis Manning made May 13 at 2016 11:49 PM

SPC Dennis Manning — Fri, 13 May 2016 23:49:07 -0400

I personally find the cartoon offensive. But I understand the concept of "freedom of speech". I may not agree with what you say (or write or draw), but I'll defend to the death your right to say (or write or draw). Just as this cartoonist has a right to his opinion, I have the right to mine, which is that the cartoonist has no concept of what service members do.

Response by SGT Maria N Brandon Honaker made May 14 at 2016 12:49 AM

SGT Maria N Brandon Honaker — Sat, 14 May 2016 00:49:43 -0400

Well... I would do what was asked of me but it was not for freaking money for college. Some times what a lot of people don't understand is that there is a necessary evil for the greater good but why would a civilian or a POG understand that at all. Just my opinion...

Response by SrA Conrad Lewis made May 14 at 2016 1:18 AM

SrA Conrad Lewis — Sat, 14 May 2016 01:18:56 -0400

Here's the deal, we can spend time on stupid shit like this or pay attention to the real shit going on with the VA and step outside your door to do something in your community. F&$@ the politicians that make this true and peace out. Be kind, rewind!

Response by SGT Terence Waltman made May 14 at 2016 2:33 AM

SGT Terence Waltman — Sat, 14 May 2016 02:33:37 -0400

Response by Lt Col Marlon Ruiz made May 14 at 2016 2:58 AM

Lt Col Marlon Ruiz — Sat, 14 May 2016 02:58:12 -0400

Such demonstrated public ignorance is to be expected in a society where only one percent of the population even has the personal fortitude and guts to serve their fellow man and country in any capacity. If you ask me, some schooling needs to happen to teach the difference between "selfie" and "selflessness."

Response by Elena Lewis made May 14 at 2016 4:52 AM

Elena Lewis — Sat, 14 May 2016 04:52:25 -0400

Aargh! It's so hard not to argue down idiots like this "artist". My hope is that the good guys will understand that millions of people all over the world are too humble to approach and express gratitude right out of the blue. Could be the lack of being formally introduced (manners) and it gets awkward for all involved. Stupid people don't have that chip. And they're loud and opinionated. From all of us that enjoy freedom, Thank You For having the guts and the grace. Thank God for you!

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made May 14 at 2016 5:04 AM

SFC Joseph Weber — Sat, 14 May 2016 05:04:54 -0400

I was curious so I googled various things with keywords like army desert storm us army and political cartoon. Good gravy there a ton of them a lot worse thatn this.

Response by SGT Felicia King made May 14 at 2016 6:56 AM

SGT Felicia King — Sat, 14 May 2016 06:56:08 -0400

I can understand how some might not like it, but I also can see some truth in it. It's definitely not one for making you laugh, but rather making you think. If you got butt hurt by this, maybe this was for you.

Response by PVT Dominique Stewart made May 14 at 2016 8:01 AM

PVT Dominique Stewart — Sat, 14 May 2016 08:01:23 -0400

I joined because I've felt like I've been called to be a soldier. I wouldn't have cared if I was not getting paid as long as my family was taken care of and I had life insurance. I joined because I was born to be a soldier. however, there are soldiers in that mainly joined for reasons other than being patriotic to country, corps, flag, etc.... I can't really say this illustration is all that inaccurate. now if the author of the illustration is saying that this is in somehow supposed to speak for ALL service members, then yeah I strongly disagree to that. if thats not the case, I say freedom of speech and expression applies to all.

with all of that said, I'd react the same way by defending the honor of our service and service members who didn't simply just join for money for college

Response by PV2 Dwayne Whittaker made May 14 at 2016 10:06 AM

PV2 Dwayne Whittaker — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:06:37 -0400

I really see nothing wrong with this cartoon. To me it shows basicly what everyone is expecting Obama to send our troops to do. And I can see him ordering it to be done too if he does what I seen was predicted in '08. If that prediction comes true, he will be in office for 16 years longer. It showed him on office until 2032 do to executive order bypassing the 22nd amendment.

Response by SSG David Kaelin made May 14 at 2016 10:07 AM

SSG David Kaelin — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:07:42 -0400

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the person in the cartoon is not infantry but a REMF who got pulled into something for which he was untrained and unprepared.

Also, I'll go out further on that limb and say that the majority of those who are commenting on this cartoon have never actually seen combat. No, deploying to the Stan or Iraq and sitting pretty on a FOB is not combat. Going out on a convoy so that you can get your Combat Action Badge is not combat either.

This cartoon speaks some truths that many in the Military do not wish to face.

America has not "defended" itself since the War of 1812. That is the last time that America was invaded by any country that had a chance of conquering us. Britain, in that war, really had no interest in conquest of America. That war was also a foolish war brought about by war fever and brashness. We ended that war exactly where we started. Except that Andrew Jackson emerged a National Hero for beating Wellington's Bro In Law at New Orleans. So there is that.

Every other war has been an war of conquest. We invaded Mexico for land. We warred against the Spanish for land. The War between the States was, in fact, a war of conquest. The Southern States attempted to secede. This was no different than the Colonies breaking off from Great Britain in 1776. The Federal Government invaded and conquered the South. These were not wars for freedom or defensive wars. The South wanted only to be left alone to forge their own path. The Federal Government would have none of that and invaded. Bobby Lee's invasions of the North at Antietem and Gettysburg were reactions to Northern aggression.

World Wars One and Two were not defensive wars. Germany did not have the capability of invading the United States. Germany had no real Navy. Japan hit us and we knew it was coming because we goaded Japan into war by denying them resources that we desired for ourselves.

We invaded Vietnam in order to keep a Colonial people from self determination. The Vietnamese were nationalist. They wanted to pursue their own path. We ignored history at our own peril there. Ho Chi Ming approached America before seeking assistance from China and the Soviet Union. Vietnam was one of the few nations who were able to throw back the Mongol hordes. Vietnam is what those who know nothing of history believe Afghanistan to be. Vietnam has thrown off imperial aggression time and time again. In the end, Vietnam went communist despite America's worst depredations on the North, the South, Cambodia and Laos. Now, Vietnam is much like China in that they use Capitalism to their advantage and are thriving despite being still quasi-communist. Our idiot war in Vietnam led to the fall of both Laos and Cambodia to communism. The Khmer Rouge was an evil that laid waste to Cambodia killing off fully a third of the population. The ground work for the Khmer Rouge was laid by America. It's called hubris.

The exact same thing happened in Afghanistan in the 80s resulting in the rise of the Taliban. Again, it happened in Iraq and Syria with the rise of ISIS.

No American Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine has fought to defend freedom since the Revolution.

If you can prove this to be false, I'd be interested in hearing something factual and not an emotional diatribe about how I hate America or I blame America first.

Even Iran is blowback. Iran was a great ally in the Middle East. They would have been an incredible bulwark against the House of Saud and Wahhabism. America, thanks to the Dulles Brothers, lost that opportunity when we supported British Petroleum greed over the will of the Iranian people. If Kermit Roosevelt had not deposed Mossadegh in '53 and placed the Shah on the Peacock Throne, the Ayatollah Khomeini would never have ridden a wave of nationalist popularity to religious despotism in Iran.

Again, I've love to hear how I am wrong on any of these events. It would please me greatly to know that I have mis-read history.

We, America, are our own worst enemy. We create enemy after enemy so that we might have an excuse to shoot them dead.

ISIS poses no existential threat to America. Saudi Arabia is a greater threat to America than ISIS or Iran. They are the assassin standing in the shadows ready to shove a knife in America's back at a time most convenient to themselves. They spread Wahhabism like a plague on the world. Sunni Islamic extremism is, at least, 90% of Islamic Terrorism. All Sunni terrorism can be traced back to Wahhabist Mosques funded by Saudi Arabia. If there existed no Saudi Arabia, there could be no al Qaeda or ISIS. These groups would simply not exist without the well spring of monetary, spiritual and physical support from within Saudi Arabia.

Yet, Saudi Arabia is our ally. We "fight for freedom" at the behest of Saudi Arabia. We fought Saddam Hussein twice for Saudi Arabia.

America has been the Great Pawn of Saudi Arabia for these past 40 years. When we've not been their pawn, we've been a pawn of Israel. All the while, we've been locked, loaded, aimed and fired like a drunken Western Cowboy by the Banks and International Corporations of America.

This cartoon speaks to those truths.

I won't even go into the early part of the "War On Terror" when I worked with National Guardsmen who spoke those exact words in the cartoon whilst complaining that they should not be over in the Stan because they didn't sign up to fight everybody else's wars but signed up for college money.

Response by SPC Shaun Hancock made May 14 at 2016 10:09 AM

SPC Shaun Hancock — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:09:42 -0400

This is some what true with the generations raised after 1990 basically it is easier to raise sheep than your children cause we have to rely on selfish sheltered worthless brats to volunteer to defend our nation that makes me sick knowing a person that believes they shouldnt have to think for themselves but should be treated like they are special defending our country what a fucking shame

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made May 14 at 2016 10:13 AM

Capt Seid Waddell — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:13:20 -0400

Unfriend the friend.

Response by SPC Mario Flores made May 14 at 2016 10:21 AM

SPC Mario Flores — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:21:16 -0400

My thought is that a gun is not inherently good or evil. It is a tool and a person can use it to do good or evil. Even though not intended by the artist the cartoon makes the same point in that are military is a tool weilded by our politicians. Only they know if their intentions were good and just or they had deception and malice behind deploying American military forces.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2016 10:26 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 May 2016 10:26:47 -0400

This is America and anyone can say what ever they want, put your feelings away and quit taking everything so personal, the men killed over in country were brothers, sons, fathers, you name it; but guess what, my brothers who were also killed in combat in country were also brothers, sons, and fathers. This is the problem with my generation of service members, the majority are so sensitive, grow up and do your job before some one on the other side does it better than you and you're the guy on that couch, with your son crying, because you're a pussy.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2016 11:08 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:08:50 -0400

Are you fucking kidding me?

Response by SFC Matthew Mason made May 14 at 2016 11:30 AM

SFC Matthew Mason — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:30:14 -0400

Who knows what was happening in that room that you clearly cannot see into. I say it has two stories to tell. Both of which have the same result, that war is not a game.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2016 11:31 AM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:31:37 -0400

You can't look at it from our perspective. Look at it from the perspective of the 500,000 civilians that died in Iraq during the war that nobody there or here wanted.

Response by CW3 Donald King made May 14 at 2016 11:39 AM

CW3 Donald King — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:39:38 -0400

It shows the ignorance of most people in the United States of America that have no clue about the military or the service members that serve to protect them and defend the Constitution against foreign and domestic threats. Liberal bleeding hearts and the enemies of the United States of America share one thing in common: destroy the way of life in America and those that defend those values associated with freedom.

Response by Charlie Powers made May 14 at 2016 11:48 AM

Charlie Powers — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:48:02 -0400

I agree with SGM Douglas Vidakovich, and with SSG (Anonymous) . The point being made in this cartoon will be coming home sooner than later. The American people are fed up with a government that no longer represents their best interests. The American people are fed up with a government that puts capitalism and corporations and everyone else's interests first. When the people get fed up enough, physical change will be forced, physically. When it does, the outnumbered government will call on the military to 'defend' it. At that point each military person will have a decision to make. Who owns their soul? Who guides their morality? Will they fire on and kill their family members, their friends, their neighbor, all because the people got fed up? Will they sell their souls for a jelly roll? This cartoon can start a very important dialogue.

Response by LCpl Jerry Michael Shively made May 14 at 2016 11:53 AM

LCpl Jerry Michael Shively — Sat, 14 May 2016 11:53:13 -0400

Endless war for the Greater Israel Project. These wars make our servicemen the terrorist. We as a Nation need out of the middle east, and let Israel stand or fall on it's own. America we have too much blood guiltiness.

Response by SGT Renee Houston Biswell made May 14 at 2016 12:06 PM

SGT Renee Houston Biswell — Sat, 14 May 2016 12:06:59 -0400

I just see the result of war. It is not antiseptic and it is not supposed to be. I don't critize any service member who did their duty honorably no matter how horrible it had to be. This is someones opinion of the war they are entitled to it. Were there scenarios like this abosolutely, there were also scenarios like the picture I posted. There are always going ti be people who think that this is somehow indiscriminate killing with not thought afterward about what had to be done. If we are so calloused about what it is to have to kill another person then why are so many if us diagnosed with PTSD. The author of this cartoon is ignorant.

Response by SGT Michael Hartman made May 14 at 2016 12:55 PM

SGT Michael Hartman — Sat, 14 May 2016 12:55:25 -0400

My gut is twisting in knots just seeing this. Whatever a person's reasons for joining any branch of the military once you go to war they pretty much become invalid. From the moment you get on the plane to deploy you are there to be in service to your country in its time of need. No more, no less. Then again I always thought a 4 year turd who just joined up for college money was wasting everybody's time including his or her own and would never know the commitment and patriotism that one joined up for love of country and family tradition like myself would ever know.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made May 14 at 2016 1:01 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Sat, 14 May 2016 13:01:03 -0400

Well, some people do enlist for educational benefits and others for a different reason.

Response by Cesar Molina made May 14 at 2016 2:40 PM

Cesar Molina — Sat, 14 May 2016 14:40:32 -0400

Not funny at all

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2016 2:58 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 May 2016 14:58:33 -0400

I like it for the visceral depiction of violence and how the service member is trying to pass of the responsibility of his actions.

I feel that to often we forget what it is we are truly trained to do, and that is commit violence in the name of our country.

I don't like to think about it, but the thought shouldn't be banished either. We need to realize and acknowledge the fact that we are all humans, and even if you are my enemy, you are the same as me at the most fundamental level.

Response by TSgt Charles Biggs made May 14 at 2016 3:52 PM

TSgt Charles Biggs — Sat, 14 May 2016 15:52:24 -0400

As much as I find this hideous, the cartoonist does have 1st amendment rights, and what he is portraying is EXACTLY what it appears obama is trying to accomplish. With all of the top brass firings over whether they would fire on American citizens, I can only hope that the rank and file soldiers that haven't been run off won't fire on Americans.

Response by Lt Col Harry Clawson made May 14 at 2016 3:57 PM

Lt Col Harry Clawson — Sat, 14 May 2016 15:57:24 -0400

It's garbage and has no truth in it. I bore witness to hundreds of times when our GIs took great risk to try and not harm non combatants and often to try and get the enemy to surrender. I think I killed more than a hundred bad guys if I were to count them all up, which I don't, but I can with as much knowledge that a human being can know, they were absolutely committed to continuing their evil ways and wouldn't stop until I killed them. Absolutly no difference than the nazis in 45 or the phillistines in 1010bc. Evil men embracing evil and trying to subvert the truth to impose their wicked ways about any and everyone around them. Point is we left 2 times as many evil doers go than we killed. Like Chris Kyle said I am prepared to give an account of every shot I took. I sleep fine at night knowing the fight we gave was righteous and we were the best hope to give the afghanis and the Iraqis a chance to make their countries a better place -- if they choose to go back to evil -- then they need to look at what they believe in. - the phillistines never learned and neither did the nazis and we had to simply kill enough of them so that those in their countries would give up and choose a different direction. Mankind has never changed since he got kicked out of the garden. And we should know by now that the only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men to sit by and do nothing

Response by SPC John Lanning made May 14 at 2016 4:06 PM

SPC John Lanning — Sat, 14 May 2016 16:06:43 -0400

They should change it to show a politician walking out of the room with blood dripping all over him and telling the kid "Hey, you guys voted me in office, and you'll vote for me again."

Response by AA Mike Motch made May 14 at 2016 4:10 PM

AA Mike Motch — Sat, 14 May 2016 16:10:42 -0400

typical hippie garbage.

Response by Kj Upt made May 14 at 2016 4:38 PM

Kj Upt — Sat, 14 May 2016 16:38:38 -0400

As the family member of many vets and friends to many more . This kind of stuff makes me Sick but not for the reasons you would think. The guys that join for college are as useless as Bruce Jenners' pussy . There are exceptions but not many

Response by Sgt Philip Edwards made May 14 at 2016 4:58 PM

Sgt Philip Edwards — Sat, 14 May 2016 16:58:51 -0400

"I disagree with what you say but will defend to the death your right to say it" Can't remember who said that.

Response by CW3 Paco Pelletier (Ret.) made May 14 at 2016 5:24 PM

CW3 Paco Pelletier (Ret.) — Sat, 14 May 2016 17:24:46 -0400

Thank you for acting on your need to respond. This is your right and well exercised. For myself, I did sign up for the college tuition 30+ years and 2 wars ago! I'd sign up for the tuition assistance again today, if Basic and AIT wasn't required. :) War sucks, so when it is time to live or let the other bastard live, it is our duty and assignment to be the survivors.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2016 5:28 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 14 May 2016 17:28:41 -0400

I don't agree with the cartoon but I do support freedom of speech. To suppress speech leds to one thoughts and ideas and no room for criticism equaling the end of a republic

Response by SPC Greg Alstead made May 14 at 2016 5:40 PM

SPC Greg Alstead — Sat, 14 May 2016 17:40:59 -0400

sometimes the truth hurts

Response by SGT Jason Herbert made May 14 at 2016 6:07 PM

SGT Jason Herbert — Sat, 14 May 2016 18:07:42 -0400

Meh, I think the depiction of the soldiers attitude is pretty piss poor opinionated. But its a political cartoon that I couldnt give a shit less about and know throwing a fit over a cartoon changes just about as much history as the guy who drew it.

Response by PO1 Aaron Baltosser made May 14 at 2016 6:43 PM

PO1 Aaron Baltosser — Sat, 14 May 2016 18:43:45 -0400

The first statement is accurate. The second is a lie oft told by the left.

Response by PO2 Slade Eide-Ettaro made May 14 at 2016 7:37 PM

PO2 Slade Eide-Ettaro — Sat, 14 May 2016 19:37:19 -0400

I don't see a problem with it.

Many of us did join exactly for that reason and what we do while in the service just happens to be working towards the day when we can do exactly that.

The morality of what we do may not even cross someone's mind while they serve, I've certainly seen people whose morals did not come into play when it came to our jobs.

As to this cartoon specifically, we defend the right to freedom of speech. That means defending the right for those that may think us to be horrible people. It is not on them to stop doing it, but on us to prove them wrong.

Response by SGT Jason Trefil made May 14 at 2016 8:28 PM

SGT Jason Trefil — Sat, 14 May 2016 20:28:30 -0400

Well, it's true...

Response by Maj Edward Stalker made May 14 at 2016 8:51 PM

Maj Edward Stalker — Sat, 14 May 2016 20:51:09 -0400

It's a perception issue. To most of the Libtard Civilians out there, they see us as faceless, brainless Myrmidons who follow the order of whomever pulls our strings in Washington. The fact that these spineless dirtbags elected these numbskulls, it's easier to blame us for the failures.

Response by Jared Polyblank made May 14 at 2016 10:29 PM

Jared Polyblank — Sat, 14 May 2016 22:29:44 -0400

This cartoon is disgusting.....shaming our uniformed service members for the atrocities brought on by our enemies is ABSOLUTELY disgusting. The GI bill is an extremely small reason for joining the military and a well deserved benefit that doesn't need mocked by an uninformed jackass.

Response by MSgt Paul McClenahan made May 14 at 2016 10:35 PM

MSgt Paul McClenahan — Sat, 14 May 2016 22:35:12 -0400

While the point is appalling, the ability to post it is uniquely American. I defend this nonsense to the bitter end.

Response by SGT Jeff Everhart made May 14 at 2016 10:54 PM

SGT Jeff Everhart — Sat, 14 May 2016 22:54:38 -0400

Commenting on this would only give it the dignity it does not deserve.

Response by SSG Patrick Hebner made May 14 at 2016 11:32 PM

SSG Patrick Hebner — Sat, 14 May 2016 23:32:39 -0400

no happy! this is bull shit!

Response by SGT Osvaldo Calle made May 14 at 2016 11:34 PM

SGT Osvaldo Calle — Sat, 14 May 2016 23:34:37 -0400

Check it out and see what the fuzz is all about. As a combat soldier I reserve my opinion. All I have to say is... If I have to do it again, I will.

Response by PO1 Kerry French made May 15 at 2016 1:03 AM

PO1 Kerry French — Sun, 15 May 2016 01:03:54 -0400

While I support free speech... this cartoon oversimplifies this. So how do we know that daddy wasn't a horrible man who stoned women, threw acid in their faces because their ankles showed or wasn't dressing up little boys and making them dance like women then molesting them? How do we know that daddy wasn't involved in the mass murder of a village or of a unit? How do we know that daddy wasn't growing poppies for heroin, killing thousands of people around the world? Maybe the soldier is a good guy who only joined for the benes... but to imply that he killed daddy because we are just mean Americans is ridiculous.

Response by CPL Jon Allen made May 15 at 2016 4:37 AM

CPL Jon Allen — Sun, 15 May 2016 04:37:12 -0400

Who ever posted it to begin with is probably some Muslim sympathizer who loves our worthless president

Response by SSgt Billy Chisum made May 15 at 2016 4:51 AM

SSgt Billy Chisum — Sun, 15 May 2016 04:51:39 -0400

Fucking liberals

Response by SN Jeremy Dieckhaus made May 15 at 2016 6:13 AM

SN Jeremy Dieckhaus — Sun, 15 May 2016 06:13:18 -0400

As a veteran that joined to serve instead of be served, it's a bit too much. But if you really open your eyes the military today is nothing like it was. Both for the best and the worst. Oh! And most personal are going for the GI bills not to serve for this country. I think if anything; this shows the truth and how far our military has fallen.

Response by LTC Robert Metnick made May 15 at 2016 7:27 AM

LTC Robert Metnick — Sun, 15 May 2016 07:27:14 -0400

Most likely, the kid and his family were used as human shields just like Hamas does in Gaza. Fuck the idiot who drew this!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 7:32 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 07:32:44 -0400

freedom is never pain free

Response by SFC Ian Lumgair made May 15 at 2016 7:46 AM

SFC Ian Lumgair — Sun, 15 May 2016 07:46:26 -0400

who posted it?

Response by Joanthan Combs made May 15 at 2016 8:30 AM

Joanthan Combs — Sun, 15 May 2016 08:30:07 -0400

this cartoon was drawn by an obamanite llibtard. I would like to beat the crap outta one.

Response by SrA Carrie Pierce made May 15 at 2016 10:52 AM

SrA Carrie Pierce — Sun, 15 May 2016 10:52:03 -0400

As shitty as this cartoon is, it's their 1st Amendment Rights. However you can use yours too to counter their message.

Response by MSgt Marion (Trey) Miller III made May 15 at 2016 10:55 AM

MSgt Marion (Trey) Miller III — Sun, 15 May 2016 10:55:43 -0400

I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death to protect your right to say it.

That's how I always have responded - and always will.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 12:16 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 12:16:57 -0400

As much as we would like to believe otherwise, there is a lot of truth in this cartoon. We have been stacking up bodies is third world countries for decades. We maintain a large well paid, professional military force that receives lots of benefits. And yes, many are in for the money and benefits. And yes, it is the politicians in Washington that wage wars around the world. If we suddenly tangled with a modern professional army and sustained heavy casualties I think our well paid volunteer Army would evaporate and the delusional wrap themselves in the flag patriots would not be stepping up to fill the ranks.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 1:38 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 13:38:54 -0400

really i'm 55 yrs old college is way the fuck out my mind

Response by CPL James Sumrell made May 15 at 2016 1:43 PM

CPL James Sumrell — Sun, 15 May 2016 13:43:23 -0400

I wish i had the fucking money these left wing pussies say i got when i joined

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 2:17 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 14:17:29 -0400

I can see it both ways, to the average right wing conservative American, I'm sure this is extremely offensive because it portrays the military as nothing but a bunch of mindless puppets who kill without remorse. However, to most soldiers in the Army, I can tell you this isn't as far fetched as one might think- as most soldiers are not captain america boy scouts who are extremely loyal and devoted to the US's foreign causes. Sadly most soldiers would just rather get drunk and play video games while not really caring about what is going on in the world.

Response by CN Dennis Stender made May 15 at 2016 3:18 PM

CN Dennis Stender — Sun, 15 May 2016 15:18:08 -0400

Bittersweet,in my day it wasn't College it was a Bullshit lie to line the pockets of Defense Contractors, once you figured that it was protecting your brothers & getting home!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 3:33 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 15:33:11 -0400

this is a good post, why, it shows how the world views the us millitary and our thoughts as a country

Response by Cpl Brian Poling made May 15 at 2016 4:14 PM

Cpl Brian Poling — Sun, 15 May 2016 16:14:41 -0400

the decision to enlist is different for everyone, i joined in 1992 and let me tell you this, college was way down on the list of reasons. the way i was raised was to believe in freedom and justice, if you are taking that oath so you can get "free" college i feel sorry for your dissapointment.

Response by CSM Gerald Utterback made May 15 at 2016 4:25 PM

CSM Gerald Utterback — Sun, 15 May 2016 16:25:18 -0400

What I do not like about it is people will think all the military is like this. They painted the same picture about us Vietnam Vets we were baby killers, and we were all high on drugs....which was not true for the majority that did serve there....but this is America and I severed to protect everyone's right to free speech and I am also free to speak out against it...

Response by TSgt Charles Laboy made May 15 at 2016 6:10 PM

TSgt Charles Laboy — Sun, 15 May 2016 18:10:19 -0400

Who is the sick basterd who posted this.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made May 15 at 2016 6:20 PM

SSG Ken Gilder — Sun, 15 May 2016 18:20:52 -0400

Broken down to its simplest terms, the purpose of the military, is "to kill people, and break things.."
What the damn bloody hell, do you think you are trained to do, in basic training/boot camp?

When you sign your name on the dotted line, you know damn will that you might be sent in to a "hostile fire" zone, and be eligible to receive "combat pay." That, genius, means you might get shot at.

Do your job. If you are a cook, cook well. If you are a journalist, write well for your local base paper and the "Stars and Stripes." If you are a mechanic, make sure your assigned vehicles are all running properly. Remember your primary function. And if you catch flak from civilians, especially reporters, tell them to do your job for a day. Otherwise, shut the hell up.

Response by Cpl Brian Poling made May 15 at 2016 6:36 PM

Cpl Brian Poling — Sun, 15 May 2016 18:36:47 -0400

Everyone volunteers for thier own reasons, I enlisted in 1992 and college was way down the list of reasons why. The way I was raised was freedom and liberty, if you signed up for "free" college I'm sorry for your dissappointment.

Response by Sgt Micheal Buchanan made May 15 at 2016 7:06 PM

Sgt Micheal Buchanan — Sun, 15 May 2016 19:06:59 -0400

Everybody knows that your character evolves as you mature. The selling point that you bought from the recruiter as a snot nosed know nothing kid does not necessarily mean that this was your same mentality when you were placed in the position to kill someone. Just coming home not in a bag is pretty good motivation for lighting up a house college money or no college money.

Response by SSgt Adrian Wyatt made May 15 at 2016 7:15 PM

SSgt Adrian Wyatt — Sun, 15 May 2016 19:15:59 -0400

I would say send in a Gunship next time...

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2016 8:00 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 May 2016 20:00:48 -0400

This is once again another Liberal Media way of saying thank you!!!

Response by 1LT Tom Welch made May 15 at 2016 10:14 PM

1LT Tom Welch — Sun, 15 May 2016 22:14:51 -0400

with freedom comes great responsibility, we must be careful with all of our freedoms, and guard them jealously, i can support the authors right to say this, but my support ends when he says irresponsible and harmful things about our military who all volunteered and with one or two notable exceptions deserve none of this crap. So i will use my freedom to stay away from whatever publication wants to publish this, stuff.

Response by GySgt Jason Taylor made May 16 at 2016 12:28 AM

GySgt Jason Taylor — Mon, 16 May 2016 00:28:49 -0400

We are who we are!! Let people think and see what they want! I know what I did was necessary

Response by Nickeles Newton made May 16 at 2016 1:40 AM

Nickeles Newton — Mon, 16 May 2016 01:40:38 -0400

This is some bull about are soldiers

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 2:36 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 02:36:42 -0400

No issue. It's a cartoon and an expression one of our valued tenets and rights: freedom of speech!

Response by CPL Mike Fish made May 16 at 2016 3:44 AM

CPL Mike Fish — Mon, 16 May 2016 03:44:36 -0400

why we cannot see the Grenade in his other hand?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 6:18 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 06:18:12 -0400

Is there not a thing called free speech in America? Is that not why so many of us joined to protect? Stop whining about it, makes you sound like the liberals most of you are bashing in the comments

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 7:11 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 07:11:21 -0400

People never put themselves in the other persons shoes. Ask yourself how would you react if someone came into your hometown much the same way. What would you think or believe?

Response by SGT Rob Schoening made May 16 at 2016 7:21 AM

SGT Rob Schoening — Mon, 16 May 2016 07:21:01 -0400

All of the freedoms we enjoy are why we served or continue to serve. Those unfortunate not to have what we have we also try to serve. We took an oath to defend both foreign and domestic. I wish that the people who write things and say things like this would grow a pair and try it out for themselves. Maybe the change in perspective would lead us on a path better than the one we are currently on.

Response by SPC David Hannaman made May 16 at 2016 7:37 AM

SPC David Hannaman — Mon, 16 May 2016 07:37:52 -0400

Yes, it's inflammatory, but the longer you think about it the more you have to realize that there's a grain of truth there. War sucks, you find yourself in situations that you would have never willingly put yourself in, and sometimes those situations will haunt you until your dying day.

I don't see it as slander against the soldier, I see it as caution to the politicians that they need to get their heads out of their asses, and fingers out of the daily business of fighting wars.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 9:03 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 09:03:21 -0400

This is awful in so many ways. I'm appalled to see something like this.

The door is still blocking the infil/exfil route. His sling is off his shoulder. His firing hand is off the trigger. His shot group is appalling - 6 rounds missed the target in close quarters.

My only question is - where are his NCOs?

On a more serious note: this cartoon is meant to incite negative emotions toward the US military, and their mission. That's fine, we don't go fight for our own freedom, we do it so that others have the freedom to voice their opinion, whether or not its idiotic.

Response by Sgt Jessica Curran made May 16 at 2016 9:14 AM

Sgt Jessica Curran — Mon, 16 May 2016 09:14:04 -0400

I find the cartoon disrespectful and crass. I think that our country is in the toilet and about to swirl into the sewer. The culture that has been developing over the last 20 years is deplorable. There is no respect for those that put their lives on the line to defend liberty. There is no recognition of the heart that it takes to be a part of that 3% (it's actually more like 1%). It hurts me to see that so many Americans have little to no understanding of the military culture and what kind of people answer the call to serve.
With all that said, it's still well within this cartoonist's rights to express this perspective. That's what we defend.

Response by SFC Nyla Newville made May 16 at 2016 9:14 AM

SFC Nyla Newville — Mon, 16 May 2016 09:14:33 -0400

I don't like this, its not easy to kill in the first place. then say something to a crying kid like that, you would have to be heartless, why do think people coming back have problems dealing with what their duty required.

Response by SFC Larry Bennett made May 16 at 2016 9:29 AM

SFC Larry Bennett — Mon, 16 May 2016 09:29:32 -0400

When I joined Rally Point, I thought it might be a chance to "escape" FB and other social media locations. It appears that the thoughts of utilizing this as a sight where we can connect and share experiences is just as deem as the rest of the social media world. Rally Point should be a place where we share experiences (Good & Bad) and share lessons learned for the up and coming Soldiers, Marines, Seaman and Airmen. Enjoy your day and I really hope R.P. can put behind the need to post political garb! Air Assault!!

Response by LCpl Herbert Campbell made May 16 at 2016 9:35 AM

LCpl Herbert Campbell — Mon, 16 May 2016 09:35:07 -0400

Response by LTC Anthony Merola made May 16 at 2016 10:25 AM

LTC Anthony Merola — Mon, 16 May 2016 10:25:44 -0400

Yes, in our country an expression like that is permitted due to the First Amendment, a right that we who wore the uniform swore to protect. Fine. Was drawing the cartoon the right thing to do? I'm not sure, if the intent was to paint all veterans as monsters and murderers, which I suspect the cartoonist was trying to do. The idea that the artist was trying to start a conversation is so much bullshit. It's like your shit-faced drunk relative at a party who tries to apologize for the hurtful remarks he made about you the night before. The son of a bitch meant every single goddamn word. Same difference.

Response by Ashley Deppe made May 16 at 2016 10:45 AM

Ashley Deppe — Mon, 16 May 2016 10:45:43 -0400

It makes me sad. I know how many people really feel this way, and it breaks my heart. I also know how hard it is for soldiers to live with themselves after deployment. I'd prefer more cartoons shining light on our veterans and their struggles after retirement. :( None of you service members get a speck of the respect you deserve.

Response by Cpl Josh Wince made May 16 at 2016 12:24 PM

Cpl Josh Wince — Mon, 16 May 2016 12:24:45 -0400

This is very untasteful

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 12:30 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 12:30:18 -0400

Ignore it, not get butthurt, and applaud them for their freedom of speech. WGAF?

Response by LCpl Robert Macey made May 16 at 2016 1:17 PM

LCpl Robert Macey — Mon, 16 May 2016 13:17:04 -0400

I can relate to this image. It speaks to the human in me. We all had a job to do in the Military and some of us had the unfortunate job of killing. It's never easy when you realize that you've left someone without their spouse or father, but in war it's them or us. Though the cartoon was meant to be satirical, it comes off as a more crass/ realistic representation than some of us are comfortable admitting.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 2:51 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 14:51:27 -0400

While being free speach, we don't have to support it. It comes off anti military, anti government. But it also depicts soldiers joining for the wrong reasons (patriotic), and a good reason (education). If the artist is any of these, fine. We have to not let this bother you, just flip through, turn the page like anything else we get upset about. We are supposed to have thick skin in the military. Keep that in mind.

Response by CPL James Singer made May 16 at 2016 4:51 PM

CPL James Singer — Mon, 16 May 2016 16:51:00 -0400

I would like to kick-the-SHIT out of the cuntwaffle who drew this up....

Response by SrA Rae Amos made May 16 at 2016 4:53 PM

SrA Rae Amos — Mon, 16 May 2016 16:53:12 -0400

I think it speaks volumes. When we are given orders, we must obey. This picture is horrible, yes, but accurately depicts what our service members who were (and are) deployed may have had to do. It's sad. But this picture is also showing the other side. The side where children are being orphaned. No one wins in war.

Response by Cpl Denis Dearborn made May 16 at 2016 5:22 PM

Cpl Denis Dearborn — Mon, 16 May 2016 17:22:47 -0400

OK, a Cartoon most likely found on a Hillary or Sanders Support page, nothing new folks, we have known the liberal left and anti conservative base in this country has hated us for years. I bet you could go to Huffington Post and find a support page for this BS lie but hey, while we keep defending freedom, the left will remove those freedoms allowing us to voice our opinion and then calling it and labeling it "hate speech" meanwhile they will thank us by saying "Thanks for giving us the freedom to paint you military folks any way we think you should be viewed... If I posted this on Face book and reported it as violating terms, Mark Z himself would tell me I was wrong and nothing is against their terms. Let me post outrage against this cartoon on FB and see how fast Mark Z himself removes my entire page for violating his "terms policy".................

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 6:30 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 18:30:59 -0400

Snore. Some people are dull

Response by Cpl Kevin Hendrickson made May 16 at 2016 7:02 PM

Cpl Kevin Hendrickson — Mon, 16 May 2016 19:02:00 -0400

What is the purpose or message that is trying to be conveyed here. The military is ordered to do whatever and whenever called upon regardless of personal feelings. A benefit such as providing money for college after risking your life serving your country for those unwilling seems reasonable to me . As far as the politics of what goes on in reality is a debate for another time. Not all of us are psychos and kill for the hell of it. The debates of who is innocent and not in this setting way beyond the ineptitude of most politicians.

Response by SrA Lawrence Lutz made May 16 at 2016 7:11 PM

SrA Lawrence Lutz — Mon, 16 May 2016 19:11:38 -0400

It's a horrible cartoon. Most if not all of our service members serve for the right reason. An ancillary benefit of the military is our GI benefits. I joined to serve my nation. Are the politicians pulling the strings doing the right thing? Maybe. Our nation voted for them and they have the power to declare war as needed to protect this great nation. We serve. Although I didn't serve in a front lines capacity, I knew if needed I would defend our nation as needed. It's a terrible thing, war. There are tons of loss with it, but we must protect our interests and our safety.

Response by PO1 Tharin Young made May 16 at 2016 8:07 PM

PO1 Tharin Young — Mon, 16 May 2016 20:07:29 -0400

So, here's the question I haven't seen asked.
This guy is your friend? Is he still?
It seems that this guy has a pretty low opinion of people in the military. He has the right to his opinion, and I'd never call for censorship, but I wouldn't be hanging out with people who held such opinions of me and my brothers and sisters in uniform.

Response by SSG Robert Reynolds made May 16 at 2016 8:14 PM

SSG Robert Reynolds — Mon, 16 May 2016 20:14:13 -0400

I support this cartoon. Not because I agree with it but because I do not. I find it to be awful and in poor taste. That though is not the point, we defend freedom of speech and expression. Especially when it is something that offends us or hate speech. Because if we take away citizens freedom to draw garbage like this or spew awful hateful crap, it will not be long before all speech is censored.

Response by SGT Glenn Needham made May 16 at 2016 8:15 PM

SGT Glenn Needham — Mon, 16 May 2016 20:15:19 -0400

Having been the soldier in the drawing I'm not sure how I feel about it.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2016 8:26 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 16 May 2016 20:26:32 -0400

War happens when politicians fail.

Response by Henry Bransford made May 16 at 2016 8:56 PM

Henry Bransford — Mon, 16 May 2016 20:56:06 -0400

While I don't necessarily agree with the political point being made, I do fully support our military and feel that our politicians should not be able to say "go here and kill these people (for whatever reason)". JMO

Response by MAJ Luis Fernando Hernandez made May 16 at 2016 10:38 PM

MAJ Luis Fernando Hernandez — Mon, 16 May 2016 22:38:30 -0400

This fits the idiotic, ignorant, and highly biased liberal morons in the media's narrative to a tee. I am not surprised in the least. They can kiss my ass for all I care.

Response by COL Charles Williams made May 16 at 2016 11:41 PM

COL Charles Williams — Mon, 16 May 2016 23:41:13 -0400

Very poor taste... but, that is the nature of political cartoons...

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made May 17 at 2016 12:10 AM

CPT Aaron Kletzing — Tue, 17 May 2016 00:10:59 -0400

This cartoon rubs me the wrong way TBH.

Response by SPC Jeremy Keeton made May 17 at 2016 12:40 AM

SPC Jeremy Keeton — Tue, 17 May 2016 00:40:45 -0400

Love hate. Once our names are on that line we don't have a choice about where we go or what we do. We do as we're told and that's it. We (collectively) are good people who have had to do shitty things for the sake of many. However - I don't agree with the second statement about money and college - I can't speak for everyone - college was a big reason for me to join but I also wanted to follow my brother in his footsteps and do something selfless and defend my home in my own way. Money wasn't even in question, I was National Guard so I only had the money from my drills each month and I knew to expect that before i even signed the contract. Many I know joined for the sake of being a part of something greater than what they were living, others joined simply because it was a childhood dream.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 12:43 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 00:43:51 -0400

It's a commitment to a nation with strong beliefs that freedom is not free, we fight to defend the constitution of the United States from foreign and domestic terror. No matter what the situation maybe "depicted on the cartoon". We fight for the freedom we embrace; for the oppression of totalitarianism regimes; radicals who terrorize our way of life and lives of innocent bystanders, usually used as human shield or just causalties as shown on the cartoon. War is Hell my friends; we are guardian & embassador of freedom. Hearts & Minds.

Response by SPC Erik Edmonds made May 17 at 2016 1:32 AM

SPC Erik Edmonds — Tue, 17 May 2016 01:32:58 -0400

Is this as distasteful as these Hip Hop "artists" glorifying violence, disrespecting women, and advocating killing cops.....

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 1:33 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 01:33:58 -0400

WTF, what kind of retard would create something this stupid... I've thought I've seen how irresponsibly stupid people can be, but this is a whole new level of stupid and then some.

The creator had no honor, integrity, or courage; that person is an idiot who has never spent a day in a foreign country with 50 pounds of gear in their body in 100 plus degree heat, half a world from their family and risking everything including their life to do something most people nowadays doesn't even have the balls to do.

But I bet this guy supports legal weed, free college education for everyone and giving the country away to illegal immigrants and "refugees" that aren't refugees... So, my message to them is:

Go the FUCK to Hell, because I've been there and done that and come back

Response by SrA Daniel Moore made May 17 at 2016 1:34 AM

SrA Daniel Moore — Tue, 17 May 2016 01:34:47 -0400

I would say that the person that is responsible for this cartoon, and the person who posted it got what they wanted. They got us to spend our time discussing this, someone who has never been in this situation, someone who has never defended an Idea or fought to maintain the rights of others, this person got US to talk about his poor attempt to divide a group of people who have many different views about this subject but all agree that in the end it is his right to voice his opinion. He has all of US to thank for that.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 8:35 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 08:35:29 -0400

I feel that we fight to enable people to have the freedom to express themselves and if this is how this high speed felt he/she should be able to do so. I personally don't agree with it but I like people to express themselves no matter what others think.

Response by SSG Vince Sanchez made May 17 at 2016 9:21 AM

SSG Vince Sanchez — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:21:35 -0400

typical propaganda,,,,,,some lib will always do this...

Response by TSgt Terry Williams made May 17 at 2016 9:27 AM

TSgt Terry Williams — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:27:27 -0400

Sadly, during my career I met many officers and enlisted who felt the same way and said the same thing.

Response by Sgt Tom Burke made May 17 at 2016 9:38 AM

Sgt Tom Burke — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:38:27 -0400

Freedom of speech, dude. Part of the reason we're there is to protect it, even from the mouths of wrong-headed dumbasses.

Suck it up and soldier on.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 9:38 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:38:47 -0400

I would respond by saying read your constitutional amendments, I'm sure one of them in there is freedom of speech. I defended the right along with my military brothers and sisters just so yall can say 'I DON'T LIKE THIS MESSAGE'! I was honored and privaleged (sp) to do so.

Response by Cpl Christofer Baines made May 17 at 2016 9:39 AM

Cpl Christofer Baines — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:39:54 -0400

I figure it's just the justification of some who are too cowardly to serve. "I could totally be special ops, but I can't just murder a bunch of innocent people like that. I just want to be my own person. You don't have to prove you're a man through being a murderer." Instead of accepting that some serve, some justify their decision by validating it. It's our fault gents! It ain't the government, which is all knowing and powerful, it's the baby killers! Oh no!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 9:41 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:41:46 -0400

Horrible, country, duty, honor! To suggest our your men and women are murders so they can go to college, and then have to justify to our youth the acts they committed to defend our nations is hideous. I support freedom of speech but I do not like poor taste.

Response by SSG Robert Quayle III made May 17 at 2016 9:45 AM

SSG Robert Quayle III — Tue, 17 May 2016 09:45:02 -0400

I don't see anything offensive in this cartoon either. Most Soldiers that I knew were only there killing people because they were ordered there by the politicians in Washington. Some agreed with those politicians, most did not but did their job anyway.

Response by PFC Henry Rodriguez made May 17 at 2016 10:17 AM

PFC Henry Rodriguez — Tue, 17 May 2016 10:17:18 -0400

WE AS VETERANS SHOULD BE OFFENDED AND DISGUSTED. WE SERVE OUR COUNTRY TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THESE LEFT WING LIBERAL SOCIALIST SO THEY CAN BASH US. WE SHOULD REINSTATED THE DRAFT AND SEND THEM TO MEET THEIR GOD . SEE HOW THEY RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SGM Frederic Smith made May 17 at 2016 11:45 AM

SGM Frederic Smith — Tue, 17 May 2016 11:45:54 -0400

When a Soldier places the blame on another person for his actions, we don't present ourselves with a very firm footing when it comes to standing for a cause or, for that fact; FREEDOM! We do what we must to follow and obey orders, but giving "excuses" for our actions without thought is reprehensible. Where do our Values come into play. There may be a very small percentage that I would suppose that will give a sorry excuse that they joined for the "education benefits and money" in order to follow out an order. I do hope not, for in such cases we give ourselves as a Service, Country and Self a black eye and give excuse for others to turn against our involvement in the world.
I would so much more appreciate the picture that PO3 Charles Balfour submitted in his response!

Response by SFC Wayne Robinson made May 17 at 2016 12:07 PM

SFC Wayne Robinson — Tue, 17 May 2016 12:07:05 -0400

This is the beginning of the end for our proud Military. Once we were strong and dedicated to our cause. many went forth and died for this great nation. Now we have some sniffling crybabies in uniform who for no other reason came into the Military to get what this picture depicts. I do not say all are like this but 25 to 30% are. Look at the leadership long hair disrespect for the soldier. Cadets with black power fists waving in the air. Ladies and gentlemen it is a fact that the government uses the Military for experiments in new drugs before they go to market for civilians, The Potus knows he can dictate policy thru the Military and it will trickle down thru society like a plague. Don't ask don't tell, just to name one.
He knows that he can not force all issues on America although he is trying, but he can use the Military as a crutch.
If you don't believe check out where most drugs were tested in America, Tylenol, prednizone, and other on the shelf drugs we use every day.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 12:10 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 12:10:13 -0400

As much as I support the right to free speech, this is cowardly.

Response by SFC David Zamora made May 17 at 2016 12:53 PM

SFC David Zamora — Tue, 17 May 2016 12:53:01 -0400

Why does anyone care? It's just some drawing someone with an opinion, flawed as it may be, that someone has and used their freedom of speech that we as Soldiers defend, to express their opinion. What is it that you'd want to do about it? Go beat them up? Jail them for exercising their constitutional right? Force it to be taken out of circulation in order to sensor it? Non of those options are going to change their opinion so what does it matter? Unfriend that person or do like I do and just ignore the infinite amount of ignorance that's all over social media. It's not that big of a deal. People have and always will spread their political propaganda wherever they can cuz they don't have anything better to do because they probably don't work and are waiting for their handouts from the socialist government that we currently have. You gotta understand that the person who made that I usually has no idea of what their talking about and should be ignored as such. I recommend watching your lane and don't lose too much more sleep over what some idiot did.

Response by TSgt Noel Barrett made May 17 at 2016 1:02 PM

TSgt Noel Barrett — Tue, 17 May 2016 13:02:05 -0400

My question is, why didn't he shoot the kid too? Looks like an ISIS baby to me. (Just kidding)

Response by SPC Tammy Johnson made May 17 at 2016 2:02 PM

SPC Tammy Johnson — Tue, 17 May 2016 14:02:02 -0400

WTF???!!!!!

Response by SPC Brice Timmons made May 17 at 2016 2:18 PM

SPC Brice Timmons — Tue, 17 May 2016 14:18:49 -0400

As far as anyone knows from the context in this cartoon, the guy on the couch was running an IED shop in his basement. Yeah, war sucks. Yeah, we should probably avoid it. At least when i was in the Army, there wasn't room for anyone who wasn't willing to take responsibility for the effects of their weapon. Now if the S-2 was a dunce...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 3:31 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 15:31:00 -0400

He is part of the Third Infantry Division. is he wearing a fanny pack.

Response by LCpl Sandra Chase made May 17 at 2016 4:05 PM

LCpl Sandra Chase — Tue, 17 May 2016 16:05:58 -0400

This is ludicrious!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by TSgt Phil Textor made May 17 at 2016 4:13 PM

TSgt Phil Textor — Tue, 17 May 2016 16:13:19 -0400

None of the comments by the soldier address whether he was acting lawfully when he fired. Just a meme to insult the military.

Response by PFC Pedro Sepulveda made May 17 at 2016 4:59 PM

PFC Pedro Sepulveda — Tue, 17 May 2016 16:59:53 -0400

if the liberals are always right why haven't there been a Liberal President?

Response by Matthew Kent made May 17 at 2016 5:03 PM

Matthew Kent — Tue, 17 May 2016 17:03:25 -0400

i'd kick em so hard in the testicles his great great grand dad would keal over in pain

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 5:08 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 17:08:20 -0400

This is just as bad as racism saying that we only joined to get money for college. Fuck this post. Freedom of speech is good, but if I were to say something against race, people would be all butt hurt and call me names and other shit. That's my freedom of speech though, right?

Response by PO3 Joshua Grullon made May 17 at 2016 5:24 PM

PO3 Joshua Grullon — Tue, 17 May 2016 17:24:47 -0400

It's dead on the money.

Response by Chris Cosgrove made May 17 at 2016 5:30 PM

Chris Cosgrove — Tue, 17 May 2016 17:30:11 -0400

I guess for me, I see both sides of this argument. I agree with SGM Douglas Vidakovich about the freedom of speech it represents, as well as I agree with those disgusted by it as it DOES not represent all of our service members at all....its sad that it has come to this, in my opinion. I support all of our military and their right to believe in what they believe in.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 5:49 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 17:49:00 -0400

well, it is true.

Response by SFC Henry Moreland made May 17 at 2016 6:10 PM

SFC Henry Moreland — Tue, 17 May 2016 18:10:12 -0400

Why apologize to the kid, he probably doesn't speak English. In my experience the little fart would probably try to kill the soldier too. Double tap him too and there is no one to claim reparations.

Response by PFC Patrick States made May 17 at 2016 6:17 PM

PFC Patrick States — Tue, 17 May 2016 18:17:01 -0400

I do not like it's depiction of the military and I hate people that say things like, "I just signed up for the college money." That being said, I stand by their right to say it. Popular speech does not have to be protected.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2016 6:55 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 May 2016 18:55:30 -0400

3rd ID, Hooah!

Response by SSG Laird Peace made May 17 at 2016 7:04 PM

SSG Laird Peace — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:04:44 -0400

Does the Army need a "safe place" now for those who are offended by drawings?

Response by Sgt Brent Reifers made May 17 at 2016 7:13 PM

Sgt Brent Reifers — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:13:03 -0400

Seems to me, this is lumping all service men and women together. Yes some people join because they want to kill someone be they "camel jockies", "gooks", "sand n****ers", or whoever else they think they have been given an excuse to kill. Some people join because of enlistment bonuses and education benefits. They are not usually the same people. It's like they lumped Bunny and Chris from Platoon together. Though I'm sure there are people who are looking for a reason to get trigger happy then try to act like they are only responding to their environment. Like they tried to keep from having to use lethal force. But mainly I see this as free speech, and the artist has every right to publish it, and that it's a right that everyone who has served, was serving to protect.

Response by SFC JaredandRobin Phillips made May 17 at 2016 7:56 PM

SFC JaredandRobin Phillips — Tue, 17 May 2016 19:56:36 -0400

That's how we are viewed

Response by TSgt Ray Rush made May 17 at 2016 8:03 PM

TSgt Ray Rush — Tue, 17 May 2016 20:03:26 -0400

Obama ARMY

Response by CPL Kema Barton made May 17 at 2016 8:36 PM

CPL Kema Barton — Tue, 17 May 2016 20:36:38 -0400

I get it. I understand what is being depicted here. I am a military veteran, I know a lot of military veterans and this doesn't offend. It's a hard reality of the mentality of a lot of people in the military.

Response by Kyle Christy made May 17 at 2016 9:10 PM

Kyle Christy — Tue, 17 May 2016 21:10:08 -0400

Unfortunately this is how the military is porttrayed. Yes there are those who join for college or other benefits, but that is not everybody.

Response by LCDR Alex Stiegemeier made May 17 at 2016 9:42 PM

LCDR Alex Stiegemeier — Tue, 17 May 2016 21:42:06 -0400

A lot of folks joined the military for a lot of different reasons; college, travel, a start somewhere when they didn't know where to start, a sense of patriotism and duty...and on and on. Some serve one tour and move on, some serve a full career and then some. There are a handful of kids who are in it for the wrong reasons and they sometimes slip through the cracks. The bottom line is that most of us aren't doing it to kill other people or to risk our own lives unnecessarily, but someone can attack our service through this type of depersonalization (oddly ironic given the context of the soldier suggesting he is just a regular guy) because it is easier to see us as a generalized and often demonized "them" rather than as a society and culture to ourselves. We have our rocket scientists and village idiots and everything in between. Most of us know why we serve and that is really what matters. So, someone has an opinion. Good for them. If I made a habit of correcting everyone I came across that just didn't get it, I would have a lot of time logged turning in circles instead of getting it done in life and on the job. This is one cartoon...one artists opinion of something they obviously don't understand or are just choosing to take out of context for their own agenda. Noted. I guess I will just go back to living my life as before and spending my time and effort on what matters to me most, my family, friends and the people I choose to surround myself with on a daily basis. Getting riled about it only gives them and others like them a win.

Response by SPC Trina Cox made May 17 at 2016 9:45 PM

SPC Trina Cox — Tue, 17 May 2016 21:45:40 -0400

I think its a little to strong, people join the military for a lot of reasons and everyone knoew what happened in Iraq, no need for cartoons

Response by Anita Beining made May 17 at 2016 9:46 PM

Anita Beining — Tue, 17 May 2016 21:46:21 -0400

I respect our rights to say what we feel, but I would not support this cartoon or anything similar to my wall or my son's.

Response by CW4 Brian Haas made May 17 at 2016 10:26 PM

CW4 Brian Haas — Tue, 17 May 2016 22:26:30 -0400

Here we are the ones that fight for the right to free speech, there's a lot of us on here that complain about how whiney society is nowadays...and here there are so many complaining and getting butt-hurt about a cartoon...really? Are there people on here ignorant enough to not realize that this is true in some cases? Man, there is so much more that folks could be using this website for, doing some actual mentoring or teaching...

Response by SPC Robert Marsh made May 17 at 2016 11:39 PM

SPC Robert Marsh — Tue, 17 May 2016 23:39:12 -0400

I'd no longer follow their posts... but I would also tell them how much I disagree with it but I also served defending their right to their opinion even if I don't share the same one

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 1:06 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 01:06:48 -0400

Ha! Reality. The O'blammy admin is filling the service with non-thinkers. 30 years ago I'd say this could never happen. Today, I'm not so sure. The old example of "I was just following orders" just might work with this administrations agenda.

Be prepared.

Response by SPC Missy Lee made May 18 at 2016 1:36 AM

SPC Missy Lee — Wed, 18 May 2016 01:36:24 -0400

Personally, I do not like this cartoon. Yeah, political decision might have made this soldier to be there, but they did not make him pull the trigger. I would hope he did so because he was neutralizing the enemy and the comment should reflect that.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 2:44 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 02:44:34 -0400

oh nice yea 3ID are the assholes

Response by SPC Korey Kilburn made May 18 at 2016 4:07 AM

SPC Korey Kilburn — Wed, 18 May 2016 04:07:42 -0400

This sucks.

Response by Jean Van Het Wout made May 18 at 2016 4:42 AM

Jean Van Het Wout — Wed, 18 May 2016 04:42:11 -0400

This is so untrue, & very disrespectful to all the troops whom we love and honour. God bless them all, and forgive these liars who posted this. Jean van het Wout

Response by PO3 Tim Scalita made May 18 at 2016 8:56 AM

PO3 Tim Scalita — Wed, 18 May 2016 08:56:41 -0400

How regular college kids see GI Bill vets...

Response by LTC Eric Coger made May 18 at 2016 9:23 AM

LTC Eric Coger — Wed, 18 May 2016 09:23:16 -0400

Terrible "cartoon" of a tragedy that can't be avoided in all circumstances. I am sure if the Soldier was a cop and had just busted a crack house the kid crying over his dead drug dealing parents would have less impact; show the dead guy in the context of planning/committing terrorist attacks as is likely the case. Perspective matters.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:06 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 10:06:12 -0400

if the dude has a gun trained on you..... well we all know what you would do.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 10:18 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 10:18:30 -0400

This gives me mixed emotions. On one sides yes very true statement, but for me personally it wasn't for the college money. Its our responsibility as Americans to defend our country and what it is supposed to mean.If it means we have to crack a few heads then by all means go for it but higher up need to understand collateral damage can't be avoided. If you want us to take action then load us up and let us go...if not then hey bring us home and protect our borders. Just stop this in between stuff you have us doing...Also for the whole college statement met a lot of people who joined for college. I feel the military should remove this option for the recruiting portion, and give it to the soldiers who earn it. Not to everyone but just to those who earn it.

Response by SFC Ralph Dunlap made May 18 at 2016 10:38 AM

SFC Ralph Dunlap — Wed, 18 May 2016 10:38:23 -0400

We all joined the Military Service for a different reason and follow orders. The only thing the cartoon has a child involved.

Response by SPC Keith Ross made May 18 at 2016 10:39 AM

SPC Keith Ross — Wed, 18 May 2016 10:39:05 -0400

It has to be one of those people who have no idea of what it means to serve our country. Whoever it is needs to be put through basic and AIT and sent to a war region to serve for a 6 month tour. Lets see if they would feel the same way after that.

Response by PO3 Christopher Clark made May 18 at 2016 11:03 AM

PO3 Christopher Clark — Wed, 18 May 2016 11:03:57 -0400

Freedom is what we all are fighting to protect or have fought to protect this stupid cartoon falls under that just look away.

Response by Rebecca Morley made May 18 at 2016 11:24 AM

Rebecca Morley — Wed, 18 May 2016 11:24:51 -0400

Im conflicted. I respect the cartoonist right of freedom of speech. Additionally there were people who signed up to receive a college education and were in over their heads once finding themselves on the front lines. But there are also many that go into the military knowing full well what to expect and thats precisely why they are there, they are no fools. This cartoon doesn't depict that latter and so therefore does not represent the typical soldier well. The only thing that I do agree with this cartoon on is that politicians should harbor the blame for their decisions

Response by SGT Jeremy Sale made May 18 at 2016 1:24 PM

SGT Jeremy Sale — Wed, 18 May 2016 13:24:36 -0400

Don't care. Can't go around straightening out every opinion that's not the same as mine. Next question.

Response by Paul Lim made May 18 at 2016 1:28 PM

Paul Lim — Wed, 18 May 2016 13:28:32 -0400

Remove the talk bubble from the soldier, put an ak47 or rpg launcher across the lap of the dead dad and it would be more accurate.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 1:59 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 13:59:38 -0400

This is true

Response by SGT Christopher Webb made May 18 at 2016 2:34 PM

SGT Christopher Webb — Wed, 18 May 2016 14:34:48 -0400

I wouldn't give a bean. Are we to assume that this *exact* situation has never happened? Sure there is no context other that what is depicted in the photo, but to assume that every Soldier is 100% taking responsibility for their actions and not placing blame on some higher echelon of the chain (squad leader and up), is naive... I met plenty during my time with that same piss poor attitude: "I'm just here for x benefit." Hell, I joined to get out of a horrible environment, but stayed for the cause... The real moral dilemma here is that, this depicted Soldier obviously has conscious objections, but will put his personal feelings to the side in order to receive x benefit, and in actuality should be shown the door, politely without argument...

Response by Jennifer Owens made May 18 at 2016 2:40 PM

Jennifer Owens — Wed, 18 May 2016 14:40:29 -0400

This is disgraceful, I have active duty family members and friends, they did not join the Military for free college!!!
Also so what if they're given free college and they accept that free college, anyone that is willing to fight for my freedom, as well as other Americans freedom, like my active duty family members and friends, they deserve that free college in my opinion. They're making sacrifices that civilians do not make, the majority of people could never fully understand, and unfortunately I don't think some even try to understand
This is outrageous , yes this is free speech, but that doesn't mean this isn't an insult, inaccurate, and a disgrace to our military!!!

Response by Jennifer Owens made May 18 at 2016 2:47 PM

Jennifer Owens — Wed, 18 May 2016 14:47:26 -0400

Liberals at their finest! Scumbags

Response by Donna O made May 18 at 2016 3:06 PM

Donna O — Wed, 18 May 2016 15:06:39 -0400

Good guy, bad guy, college student...I am just thankful that when the job needs to get done that I know the US Military will be there.

Response by PO1 Corey McCormick made May 18 at 2016 3:10 PM

PO1 Corey McCormick — Wed, 18 May 2016 15:10:48 -0400

I can see how some veterans would be upset with this, but the FACT is that this is the way the military currently operates. LAWFUL ORDERS - Who determines that? According to the law and the UCMJ, the individual service member does, but just try to stand firm on what is right and see how quickly you get knocked down, discharged in an other than honorable method or end up in the brig... It will never turn out well for the service member, because he has little protection from his chain of command - especially when they are wrong. The fact is that the service member is a "do what you're told" warm body and the officers appointed above a service member 'following orders' is not held to account, since "I don't recall" or "I wasn't aware" has become a valid dodge of responsibility. Anyway - Track down the guy that gave the order in the first place. You don't have to, because the service member is supposed to know what is lawful and what is not - Of course with all that extensive prerequisite training that they get on what is lawful.

I gloriously support free speech though. That is the right thing to do regardless.

Response by SGT Josh Suchoski made May 18 at 2016 4:01 PM

SGT Josh Suchoski — Wed, 18 May 2016 16:01:12 -0400

I would respond with this:

Response by CPL Larry Long made May 18 at 2016 4:58 PM

CPL Larry Long — Wed, 18 May 2016 16:58:29 -0400

I believe a lot of soldiers may have started with that frame of mind, however once you get some mileage on you that ceases to be the primary issue of why you're there. so yes this cartoon is very much bullshit.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 4:59 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 16:59:48 -0400

Shoot the kid too

Response by SSG Richard Gaytan made May 18 at 2016 5:43 PM

SSG Richard Gaytan — Wed, 18 May 2016 17:43:15 -0400

I don't like it when children are involve. Especially the blood.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 5:45 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 17:45:10 -0400

It plays on the fear of the people who have the guns. It paints us in a bad light, and it paints the people who are on the sharp end of the stick as people blindly following orders. But it still shows the first world mentality of the person who made it. The parents are clothed. The child is clothed. The door is an American door with a lock and the room has a light in it, betraying the fact that in the artists mind we are still the big bad bump in the night that is a threat to the first world, not the third world. You never see a cartoon about the military personnel handing out disaster relief supplies, bypassing the corrupt leaders that would funnel it to their own military and political allies instead of the ones who need. You never see a cartoon about military personnel providing care and relief to the people caught in a firefight. You never see a cartoon about the military personnel protecting civilians from enemy combatants who would rape, pillage and burn simply because they want to believe something different. Because it is always easier to demonize someone who has ideological differences than see them as a human being who believes something different.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2016 5:48 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 May 2016 17:48:48 -0400

It's not realistic because the kid would not likely know enough English to understand the 3ID trooper...

BTW... it looks old... M16 not M4 and K-Pot vs. ACH... probably from and anti-Iraq War magazine circa. 2003/4....

Response by SFC Robert Bower made May 18 at 2016 6:22 PM

SFC Robert Bower — Wed, 18 May 2016 18:22:19 -0400

What a bunch of crap! Last time I heard a Soldier say that was 1998 and most of the other Infantry guys thought he was a shit bag! Send me that fb link so I can comment on it!

Response by Timothy Herod made May 18 at 2016 6:28 PM

Timothy Herod — Wed, 18 May 2016 18:28:52 -0400

So disrespectful and cruelly demonizing toward Armed Service Members.

Response by PO1 Russell Henson made May 18 at 2016 6:42 PM

PO1 Russell Henson — Wed, 18 May 2016 18:42:30 -0400

The ugly side of war!

Response by LTC John Dyess made May 18 at 2016 7:24 PM

LTC John Dyess — Wed, 18 May 2016 19:24:28 -0400

I find it offensive and disrespectful

Response by MSgt T Murray made May 18 at 2016 7:25 PM

MSgt T Murray — Wed, 18 May 2016 19:25:58 -0400

I had a young Airmen working for me that tried to use that line when he was assigned to an AEF. "Hey, I didn't sign up for this, I just came in to pay off my student loans and finish my degree." I took him down to the first sgt, and had him explain it to him, so he could get out of the deployment. Our 1st Shirt was very sympathetic, he was given a discharge 30 days later. And of course he was crying, "How am I going to pay off my loans now, you guys screwed me. It's not fair."

Response by CPL Thaddeus Ping made May 18 at 2016 9:10 PM

CPL Thaddeus Ping — Wed, 18 May 2016 21:10:39 -0400

When I swore to defend people's rights, I knew I was also defending the right's of d-bags. and I'm totally cool with that. I may not agree with what someone has to say, but I will defend to the death their right to say it, even if it is disgusting.

Response by Cpl Stephen Richardson made May 18 at 2016 9:10 PM

Cpl Stephen Richardson — Wed, 18 May 2016 21:10:49 -0400

This is hyperbole - it was meant to be witty and reflective, but failed.

Response by SPC James Cook made May 18 at 2016 9:26 PM

SPC James Cook — Wed, 18 May 2016 21:26:06 -0400

One would like to defend us, but then...
For the tens or hundreds of Iraqis and Afghans who have died at the hands of our people for each 9/11 victim, what material gain have we acquired? Please tell me.
Then there are the 6,800 Americans who have died in those places since then. What have their lives secured? What have the ruined lives of the living who have returned secured? Please tell me. I want to know.
What do you tell those folks? What do you tell the families of the dead or wrecked?
Don't be a cock and call me a lib-tard, threaten my life, the lives of my family, or tell me it's my country right or wrong. It really might surprise you where I'm coming from. For all you know, I'm a frightening nationalist or worse.
I want answers I can believe in and back, but I haven't seen any so far. Seems plenty of wasted lives and bloody red footprints with nothing of value to show.
The cartoon is valid.

Response by PFC Kevin Knapp made May 18 at 2016 10:21 PM

PFC Kevin Knapp — Wed, 18 May 2016 22:21:47 -0400

I don't like it, but will defend the artist's right to draw it. Americans have the right to free speech. Yes, its in bad taste and makes military folks angry. But lets remember, there have been soldiers who went rogue and started slaughtering civilians. The second the military thinks its above criticism is just a few minutes before the military thinks it should be running things (world history). We just have to grin and bear it.

Response by CPL Fred Hoffmann made May 18 at 2016 10:29 PM

CPL Fred Hoffmann — Wed, 18 May 2016 22:29:38 -0400

Aggression at first. Then, after reflection, I'd say "He missed one."

Response by Mike Radecki made May 18 at 2016 10:31 PM

Mike Radecki — Wed, 18 May 2016 22:31:29 -0400

See what the hell is going on. Kind of pissed me off.

Response by PO2 Dallas Cain made May 18 at 2016 10:50 PM

PO2 Dallas Cain — Wed, 18 May 2016 22:50:09 -0400

This is bullshit!
But I respect the right for the person who came up with it to express their opinion.

Response by SPC Brandy Ervin made May 18 at 2016 11:58 PM

SPC Brandy Ervin — Wed, 18 May 2016 23:58:16 -0400

I don't have an issue with this cartoon. It is just that a cartoon. Someone drew this either due to their own ignorant opinion or just to get a reaction. Kind like someone poking a stick at an animal only to sit back laugh and giggle as it ragged.
I served and loved the time I was in. I have learned alot since getting out. One of the leasons being; If I spent all my time getting offended by everyone's opinion. I would have no time to laugh at their willful ignorance before getting on with my life.
Is it disrespectful, probably. Does the cartoon or the artists opinion matter? Not really no. Is anyone going to hand the offended a tissue to dry their tears or give them a corner for a safe space to kepp their feelings from gething hurt... unless your in a main stream college most likely not.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 12:01 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 00:01:43 -0400

Discusting

Response by Sgt Werner Lightner made May 19 at 2016 2:22 AM

Sgt Werner Lightner — Thu, 19 May 2016 02:22:27 -0400

That's pretty f'ed up. Whover drew this should be ashamed of themselves.

Response by SPC Erik Robertson made May 19 at 2016 2:22 AM

SPC Erik Robertson — Thu, 19 May 2016 02:22:28 -0400

I did not do this for the money but to make the USA a better and safer place fuck those that use the I did it for collage you should not have joined. Airborne!!!!

Response by SGT Jason Mester made May 19 at 2016 4:24 AM

SGT Jason Mester — Thu, 19 May 2016 04:24:10 -0400

I am proud to claim that I am 9th generation military in this country. My family like many others have worn the uniform and bled to safe guard people's rights and freedoms to express themselves as they see fit. Within reason of course. Is it offensive, sure to some perhaps. However it is no more offensive than depicting Muhammad humpin a camel while shouting some sort of squiggle script in a cartoon bubble. (seriously is was just scribbles)
My point is that you cannot say that it offends you and how dare you this and that and then say they cant do it but yet you can offend them back and its ok. End the double standard crap along with the political correctness. Back in WWI and WWII crap like this abounded actually and was even worse in Vietnam. So what. Is that not what we fought for in the first place? Is that not what we swore and oath to protect? Is it not ultimately the right to express ourselves freely and even in passionate disagreements? When you see a show on TV that pisses you off do you sit and whine and write a spoiled brat letter about it and go to the net and blog about your hurt feelers or do you change the damned channel? Shall homes come equipped with safe zone areas where even the dog cant enter if its going to offend you with a fart? Or are you going to wake the hell up and stop feeding the flames that are burning America to the very core?

You dont have to agree. You dont have to like it. You dont have to accept it even as canon or gospel doctrine. BUT you look like the worlds biggest hypocritical douche nozzle to say No this offends me but I dont care about your being offended by me. Especially if you think that wearing the uniform gives you some sort of trump card over anybody elses feelings and you get to dictate squat over such on matters like this. When I say you I mean this in the general sense not specific to anybody in particular.

Have some intestinal fortitude and maturity to realize that yes you have the freedom to express yourself but then so do others and more importantly this is an unwritten side affect and that is that you have the right to be offended as well so get over yourself. People will think whatever they want and if they allow a political cartoon to offend or influence them then so be it. At least you know the depth and scope of their maturity and thinking.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 5:11 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 05:11:30 -0400

This is me not being bothered one bit. That's the freedom of speech/expression that we fight to uphold. At least no one's threatening violence against my country-men, or destroying our flag.

Response by Cpl Jerry Mccluskey made May 19 at 2016 6:06 AM

Cpl Jerry Mccluskey — Thu, 19 May 2016 06:06:50 -0400

Let's break this down and try to understand what is being said here. we do not know where this happened. We just see a serviceman with a smoking M16. A door that was kicked in a man slumped in a nice chair with no wounds. Bullet holes in the wall behind him. Then there is blood coming from the chair where the service man walked though. Then there is a kid outside the room that is crying and the service man trying to define what happened. Ok now let's think about all that. We don't know if he was definding the guy from an attack or if he was told to kill him. Besides all that what I think the pic is trying to say is lot of people think that the serviceman is a simple mind person that does what they are told without question killing anything and everything that are told to shoot at. What civilians don't understand is the serviceman trys not to kill unless we have to. Most of the time we don't fire until fired at, or the Intel we are given says there is a bad guy at a spot and to shoot there but there is almost always someone on the ground confirming the guy is there. I could keep going but way to much to talk about with this one.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 6:13 AM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 06:13:57 -0400

That is pretty much how a lot of troops are. Don't want to be soldiers, just want easy job on base, or reservists that just want the extra money. Very few actually believe in anything anymore

Response by 1LT Gerald O'Hare made May 19 at 2016 6:56 AM

1LT Gerald O'Hare — Thu, 19 May 2016 06:56:18 -0400

Reposting this propaganda only helps the evil people. Under our laws free speech is protected. Delete this cartoon.

Response by LT Mike Sanservino made May 19 at 2016 8:33 AM

LT Mike Sanservino — Thu, 19 May 2016 08:33:39 -0400

I'll defend someone's freedom of speech, but with any freedom comes responsibility and too many want one without the burdens of the other. The first amendment is about restricting the government from infringement but as one person has the right to make asinine statements, so too others have the right to call attention to said stupidity and ridicule those who are responsible for it.

Response by J Kri made May 19 at 2016 8:43 AM

J Kri — Thu, 19 May 2016 08:43:32 -0400

What is funny is I read this as defending the military. It's true. You shouldn't blame the soldier. They are doing their job defending the right for posts just like this one. If we don't want to have our young men (and women) involved in matters like that depicted, then we need to change our politicians. This post makes me incredibly sad as it makes me remember what our servicemen have seen and what those sights must do to someone.

Response by Cpl James Hall made May 19 at 2016 8:56 AM

Cpl James Hall — Thu, 19 May 2016 08:56:53 -0400

We do not kick in doors and just randomly kill every one inside. What is not shown inside that room is the AK-47s, IEDs that are ready to deal death. While the military member joined to get money for college, he is now is just trying to stay alive in a land where the locals conspire to kill him at every turn. I am not offended by the picture because I realize that it is just a small glimpse of a larger picture. It raises questions and allows discussions to take place as to why this is happening and in turn, opens the eyes of the public to the realization of war. This picture is a shock, therefore opinions are immediately formed and whether positive or negative people have a response which allows opportunities for everyone to question the practices of politicians.

Response by PO2 Michael Packer made May 19 at 2016 1:26 PM

PO2 Michael Packer — Thu, 19 May 2016 13:26:09 -0400

I think it's an uninformed opinion. The fact is most veterans do hold themselves accountable for the good they have done, and the bad they have done. Sometimes we wear that accountability on our sleeve, sometimes we hide it in the deep recesses of our humanity. Why do you think 22 of us leave this world by our own hand everyday. It's not for lack of feeling responsible . and what they can no longer do because of the only undefeated eternal organization, time. I've never personally heard one of us say "don't blame me" for something combat related. back in my days 99 percent of members who got our never used there GI-bill or Navy college fund, so it's pretty obvious to me that they did not join for the college money, or maybe they did and life taught them to do somthing else. Anyway I take opines like this with a grain of salt and a sense of pity for the uninformed.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 5:57 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 17:57:28 -0400

Many that volunteer join for a multitude of reasons--educational benefits are very beneficial to those that seek a education--but so many other benefits await most of all the bonds created by those and with those serving. I would have served without the tuition fee waiver and GI Bill. I recently watched a PBS documentary DRAFT that highlighted differences in opinions. Part of me wonders if we will return to what was and if this would reduce the prolonged war efforts abroad as public awareness would be heightened. War is Hell, but the greatest sin leadership of this great nation can commit is sending the best and brightest to foreign soil to lose in a unjust conflict

Response by Nicholas Efstathiou made May 19 at 2016 6:35 PM

Nicholas Efstathiou — Thu, 19 May 2016 18:35:40 -0400

Most of my friends wouldn't post something like this, unless it was to discuss it. I agree with SGM Vidakovich that it should be allowed. I find it distasteful, but people have the write to say what they want. It's the beauty of America.

Response by Amber Martin made May 19 at 2016 8:05 PM

Amber Martin — Thu, 19 May 2016 20:05:09 -0400

This is disgusting to all service member. What they do and what they stand for what they give their lives for!

Response by SPC Andrew Fuller made May 19 at 2016 8:53 PM

SPC Andrew Fuller — Thu, 19 May 2016 20:53:45 -0400

I have heard such claims by civilians, that we are "baby killers" and what not. Nothing new. What really stands my hair on end, is that those folks that accuse us of being evil in some way, cant tell the difference between good guys, and bad guys. This is how I lay it down to folks when this comes up. BAD GUYS: When bad guys get it in their head that people need to die, for what ever reason, they just go kill them, and then move on to the next group of people they can exploit or kill, then the next village, then the next village etc. The cycle never ends. We know how this cycle works. GOOD GUYS: Some times good guys have to use violence to render bad guys harmless(dead). The difference? When the good guys finish killing bad guys, our weapons go back in the armory, and stay there. We stop killing, when people are safe. Bad guys keep killing, period.

Response by PFC Brant Kimery made May 19 at 2016 9:59 PM

PFC Brant Kimery — Thu, 19 May 2016 21:59:21 -0400

On a friends page? Drive to his house, knock on his door, and throat punch him.

Response by SSgt Steve Short made May 19 at 2016 10:32 PM

SSgt Steve Short — Thu, 19 May 2016 22:32:54 -0400

I think it makes military members look like killers for college. It sends the wrong message. Besides, little kidds can't join

Response by Sgt Robert Sumner made May 19 at 2016 11:06 PM

Sgt Robert Sumner — Thu, 19 May 2016 23:06:25 -0400

hahaha nah most of these turds are company clerks and Pogs

Response by SN Nolan Allen made May 19 at 2016 11:39 PM

SN Nolan Allen — Thu, 19 May 2016 23:39:28 -0400

Fuck if I know, man. I'd probably keep scrolling.

Response by Shirlene Jenne made May 20 at 2016 12:19 AM

Shirlene Jenne — Fri, 20 May 2016 00:19:25 -0400

I am sorry that so many people are upset by this, but if you ask a military member why they enlisted into the service in the first place, you get I joined because of the steady paycheck, the health benefits, travel and schooling a lot more often than not. So, I don't see the problem with this. I know a lady who told her son, he had 3 options and they were 1 jail, 2 Job corps, 3 military but he wasn't allowed to do the jobs he wanted to do because he wasn't allowed to go to war. Really? This was in 2008.

Response by SGT Robert Dalager made May 20 at 2016 1:04 AM

SGT Robert Dalager — Fri, 20 May 2016 01:04:41 -0400

of course they do this. Apathetic crybaby entitled shit muppets to the last. They love to demonize us, as they are too chicken shit to sign up. They armchair quarterback everything in life while expecting us to do their dirty work and hand them a lavish life style to enjoy.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 1:21 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 01:21:44 -0400

Our freedom of speech not being in question, the subject is reminiscent of the undermining of Military operations and personnel in the most dangerous of human endevors; War.
Our war fighters have the noblist intentions, however there is this conditition know as the " fog of war' where any and everybody is subject to being killed.

So the Commie who put this in the publics eye, I say verily unto you, " Come walk with me on the wild side, and see if you can live unscathed as you have now done,"

Response by SSG T.j. Will made May 20 at 2016 9:47 AM

SSG T.j. Will — Fri, 20 May 2016 09:47:04 -0400

I think the honeymoon between sevrvice members and the ppl is over

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2016 10:28 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 May 2016 10:28:09 -0400

This doesn't correlate unless the only purpose is to shame why some join. Who cares why people join as long as they do their job honorably? Anyway, carry on....

Response by Andy Bong made May 20 at 2016 11:10 AM

Andy Bong — Fri, 20 May 2016 11:10:52 -0400

i think is disrespectful to the brave men and women our arm force doing there job who ever did this cartons is not a true america

Response by Nancy Cross made May 20 at 2016 1:35 PM

Nancy Cross — Fri, 20 May 2016 13:35:57 -0400

I think probably we are going back to a time when the military and war was portrayed negatively . Some media sources do nothing but feed the sheeples the garbage they can cling to . Be it good or bad . Where as we have to right to post things doesn't mean we should . I personally would have felt the same as you :(

Response by Cpl Brandon Twitty made May 20 at 2016 1:45 PM

Cpl Brandon Twitty — Fri, 20 May 2016 13:45:11 -0400

Who the hell joins the military for money and college. Must be a sailor or airman. I joined to kick the shit out of scum and make the world a better place. This is a liberal cartoon #USMC

Response by LCpl Breana Fortney made May 20 at 2016 3:31 PM

LCpl Breana Fortney — Fri, 20 May 2016 15:31:09 -0400

The saddest part about this cartoon is it is somewhat true. I joined for the GI Bill because I didnt want to put my parents out with my student loans. I wanted them to finally be able to enjoy a life they have always wanted, yet couldnt afford because of me. I know for a fact that I am NOT the only one. However, on the flipside, I did want to also support a family tradition. I wanted to defend our country and our freedoms. I believe EVERYONE should have to serve at least 2 years in the military like so many other countries....maybe then they wont be such self entitled little bitches and have some respect for work and the military.

Response by Maj Jason Helton made May 20 at 2016 5:26 PM

Maj Jason Helton — Fri, 20 May 2016 17:26:38 -0400

Not cool

Response by Jake Scheffer made May 21 at 2016 1:22 AM

Jake Scheffer — Sat, 21 May 2016 01:22:01 -0400

I believe it is genuinely a reason a lot of people join the military now. Whether it good or bad.

Response by Crystal Wilson Smith made May 21 at 2016 6:15 AM

Crystal Wilson Smith — Sat, 21 May 2016 06:15:47 -0400

they need to pull this down. this makes our country look bad and was intent to hurt our service people. how would they like it if it was their family in this cartoon. I believe in our country freedom but this was straight attac on our military people. I say pull it down and throw it out.

Response by Brent Hutchinson made May 21 at 2016 7:09 AM

Brent Hutchinson — Sat, 21 May 2016 07:09:23 -0400

I don't agree with this cartoon. I don't feel People Sign up for the Military for free college. I know its not for the pay. Our Soldiers wouldn't just Kill anyone just cause congress pointed a finger. Normally when Congress (I.E. Hillary Clinton) wants a man killed the hire people in the middle east.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2016 11:01 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 May 2016 11:01:25 -0400

I would practice control of my sympathetic nervous system and stress hormone response by not giving a shit.

Response by Gary Burg made May 21 at 2016 11:58 AM

Gary Burg — Sat, 21 May 2016 11:58:05 -0400

Supposed to be a true depiction? Where's the kids pipe bomb??

Response by SPC Benjamin Pitz made May 21 at 2016 2:30 PM

SPC Benjamin Pitz — Sat, 21 May 2016 14:30:46 -0400

I think the image is bullshit but i fought for the right of any and all citizens to have the right to state and or post their options. I love this country period and as much as this cartoon shows disrespect and an uninformative view this is what makes this country great. Hooah!!!

Response by Sgt Jonathan Williams made May 21 at 2016 5:12 PM

Sgt Jonathan Williams — Sat, 21 May 2016 17:12:22 -0400

and yet I would be willing to bet that the poster defends U.S./British actions in WWII including carpet bombing cities with no strategic significance and nuking others, or Sherman burning his way through the South in the name of punishing rebels. War is hell; both sides often end up making mistakes or going too far at some point, but today our troops show more concern for civilians and constraint than we ever have! They are just lucky they aren't dealing with the likes of General Sherman, or Sir Arthur Harris.

P.S. I am not condoning or rebuking the aforementioned military leaders, simply illustrating harsh military strategies that shed a light on how brutal war can be compared to how we operate today.

Response by Cpl Arvin Saenz made May 21 at 2016 5:50 PM

Cpl Arvin Saenz — Sat, 21 May 2016 17:50:51 -0400

It's all relative man. There is some truth. This does not reflect contemporary military and political climate.

Response by PO3 Richard Schreivogl made May 21 at 2016 7:36 PM

PO3 Richard Schreivogl — Sat, 21 May 2016 19:36:28 -0400

that is a fucked up cartoon..

Response by PO3 Richard Schreivogl made May 21 at 2016 7:37 PM

PO3 Richard Schreivogl — Sat, 21 May 2016 19:37:56 -0400

i joind to honor my country and family to see the world fight for freedom.

Response by SPC Tonya Harrington made May 21 at 2016 7:42 PM

SPC Tonya Harrington — Sat, 21 May 2016 19:42:56 -0400

While this editorial cartoon is offensive to me on many levels. I support the persons right to draw and critic the military as they see fit. It is the freedom of choice that we have in this country that is wonderful. When I took the oath I knew I was going to be protecting even those that disagreed with my choice to be military. I knew they would see myself and anyone else who ever enlisted in this manner. That being said, there are thousands of young adults lining up for service because of the education benefits. Going to University is expensive, and if serving 4 years of your life in the military is the way you can afford to go..then do it! Just don't go in thinking its all rainbows and butterflies. They teach you to kill for a reason.

Response by Cpl Shamal Samuel made May 21 at 2016 8:38 PM

Cpl Shamal Samuel — Sat, 21 May 2016 20:38:04 -0400

It's a shame that anyone would dare to draw that and publish it. There may be service members that joined for college, but at one point or another it's hard not to become a patriot and realize there's a lot more to it than that.

Response by SPC Jennifer Sisk made May 21 at 2016 11:06 PM

SPC Jennifer Sisk — Sat, 21 May 2016 23:06:30 -0400

Wow! I agree with the first part, but the I only joined to pay for college....I do take offense to. Although I joined the National Guard to help pay for college; I was in ROTC first and foremost. I had planned to become a CO in the regular army... then life happened... in fact it was due to mobilizations in the National Guard that kept me from completing my college education.

Response by SGT Amy Lopez made May 22 at 2016 5:52 AM

SGT Amy Lopez — Sun, 22 May 2016 05:52:54 -0400

What kind of Bull shit is this! Im sure this was drawn by one of those liberal asshole who grew up having everything given to them. Are we going back to the days of Vietnam. Who ever drew this can suck it and move to another country.

Response by SPC Danny Lewis made May 22 at 2016 10:37 AM

SPC Danny Lewis — Sun, 22 May 2016 10:37:59 -0400

Uuuummmm....

Response by Sgt Chris Conklin made May 22 at 2016 12:54 PM

Sgt Chris Conklin — Sun, 22 May 2016 12:54:30 -0400

I feel this is a very profound work of art. I don't think that the military need to be defended here. It is not the military or the soldier that would be on trial here. I feel it is society its self that is in question. Remember all good ART will start good debate. It is charged with emotion and is a way to express and feel that emotion with others

Response by Stacy Moquin made May 22 at 2016 1:02 PM

Stacy Moquin — Sun, 22 May 2016 13:02:53 -0400

As a civilian supporter, I do NOT see this as free speech as much as U.S. military personnel bashing. To minimize our military and personnel down to something as trivial as wanting money for college upsets me. My father, A Navy vet of Vietnam, honorably discharged, volunteered because of his sense of Patriotic duty. He had a scholarship to Rice, but instead, chose duty.

Response by SP5 Ricardo Warner made May 22 at 2016 5:28 PM

SP5 Ricardo Warner — Sun, 22 May 2016 17:28:22 -0400

This growing cold corpse... on the other hand... was building bombs to blow up his own Countrymen and Women. Children too. Be Happy that there are Men like Me who will put their own lives on the "Back Burner" and come way over here to put these Dogs to sleep! :)

Response by John B made May 22 at 2016 8:08 PM

John B — Sun, 22 May 2016 20:08:09 -0400

I never was able to serve because of medical disqualifications (but in my defense, I tried in all branches and had to be told to give up rather than quit) so I know service wise, I have little to say that can relate, but I am two sided to this. Side one: The soldier is telling the truth. It is sad but true that the government sends our men and women in as the show of force while they sit back and wait for either a "mission success" or a failure. i've seen friends I have grown up with go out to war as one man, and come back as another, and i feel it is not solely the soldier who is at fault for the actions he is ordered to partake in. Now, the other side: Although I am not military, I am familiar with ROE, and SOP and under those laws, if you are engaged or threatened, you can return fire. So...that being said, this soldier shouldn't apologize to that child if that child's father raised the weapon in combat first. Correct me if I am wrong, but the main goal of any military man or woman is to make it home from combat while doing their service to their nation. Great cartoon, and those are my two sides I see. To the servicemen and women here, I do thank you for all you have done and continue to do. Wish I could be with you all, but my form of duty is here in the states defending our troops from assholes who don't respect the uniform or the way of life it requires. God bless you all.

Response by Rachel Mathes made May 22 at 2016 8:08 PM

Rachel Mathes — Sun, 22 May 2016 20:08:39 -0400

Having had the honor and pleasure of being married to a veteran who was one of the best men I have ever known in my entire life this cartoon pisses me off in so many ways! It shows how ignorant society is especially when it comes to the incredible men and women who make the selfless choice to give everything for their country no matter the reason. I was unable to do unfortunately and was very disappointed that due to uncorrectable health reasons I would not be able to serve my country. I do however know the hell that comes home with a soldier that no one sees and Vietnam veterans got the shaft worse than anyone and I hope and pray that we as a nation learn to make sure that it never happens to any other group. We also need to attempt to fix some of the hurt there too! This cartoon says so much that the average person will never understand that it is very sad which only serves to anger me even more. Until civilians learn to truly appreciate the sacrifice that is made for them everyday we will always have issues that should not be of foolish people who think they are entitled to the rights that you all provide with the most incredible gift: yourselves. Thank you all for the choice you made to serve and protect all of the idiots who have no idea what it means or takes to do it. Know that there is one person who does and is truly grateful. Sorry if I signed it wrong.
-Mrs.SSGTUSAF James E.Mathes 1938-2015

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 22 at 2016 9:46 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 22 May 2016 21:46:26 -0400

I UNDERSTAND IT

Response by Pvt Kenneth Sullivan made May 22 at 2016 11:50 PM

Pvt Kenneth Sullivan — Sun, 22 May 2016 23:50:33 -0400

How do we know he didnt just take the gun from a child who just murdered his family? Just a different viewpoint people. This cartoon makes no sense. They are giving college away nowdays. So chances are the soldier is just lying to the kid like the other adults do

Response by Angie Appleton made May 23 at 2016 9:01 AM

Angie Appleton — Mon, 23 May 2016 09:01:32 -0400

As the Mother of Marines.... Marines who joined to protect our country, to BE Marines...not for the perk of the GI Bill.... This cartoon speaks volumes to the discipline of our military. They follow orders. I believe there are VERY FEW who join "just to get money to go to college". There is also the aspect of the man speaking kindly to the child...blocking him from entering and seeing the aftermath of war.

Response by SPC Joshua Cameron made May 23 at 2016 11:30 AM

SPC Joshua Cameron — Mon, 23 May 2016 11:30:52 -0400

I really like it. Rare is the soldier who volunteers to put him/herself in a war. I would also daresay that the average soldier is the one who is against war, and the average uneducated, self important American is pro war using memes to proselytize their message. It is a shame that we have allowed so many of us to be brainwashed into thinking that bombing innocent women and children in another country is somehow the way to stop terrorism.

While I do not in any way like Donald Trump, I do like that his rhetoric throws that terrible idea into these meme warriors' faces.

Response by SPC Dana David made May 23 at 2016 3:39 PM

SPC Dana David — Mon, 23 May 2016 15:39:54 -0400

i don't even know where to begin... I love that this country has the freedom to insult and thrash everything that has given birth to that freedom , even the most deepest foundation can be stepped on... but i also believe that at some point too much freedom is not freedom anymore and can cross the line into a lawless anarchy... i believe also that most people that joined the military develops some kind of respect and patriotism for this country because it has cost them sacrifices that no one else will know, and it doesn't matter what was the reason that made them enlist. I don't see anything wrong enlisting because of benefits because at least you have the dignity to say you worked for them and were not just given ... and sincerely most of them that do enlist for those benefits sometimes give more than what is given back to them... this cartoon just portrays some kind of hatred or dislike for the military because although it does portray some external factors that the soldier deals with does not cover not even 1/3 of the whole picture or situation that soldier has to deal with... we are not sent to these kinds of places for fun... in fact there's not even enough soldiers sent to these or other places in need of some kind of safety... the corrupt people dont want soldiers there, they bother or/and interrupt their plans, but the regular civilian will most likely experience some kind of safety in the middle of all this stressful situation...

Response by Lauren Siebert made May 23 at 2016 3:44 PM

Lauren Siebert — Mon, 23 May 2016 15:44:11 -0400

I feel like this is amazingly disrespectful and is perpetuating the argument that the only reason people join the military isn't to serve their country but rather to pay for an education. An argument that says, If we make things free, no one will support our country by being willing to fight, which is exactly what the argument is if you sort through the propaganda. Having college is incentive to join but the military is a commitment that requires some great sacrifices.. I am not a member but for the past several years, I have missed my brother and he has missed the birth of a couple of his kids because he was stationed elsewhere. Places his family couldn't go because it wasn't safe. Obviously i'm preaching to the choir but this cartoon is in extremely poor taste. Freedom of expression is fine, but how far would this fly if it were a photo of a museum man raping a boy, pouring acid on a woman or stoning a thief because it's culturally acceptable and the caption read... "Don't blame me, blame the quran, i don't make the rules I just enjoy the benefits of being born a man..I'm only doing this to you because it's what i believe is justified." There would be an outcry of rage even though it's just an opinion. I have friends and family who joined the military because it was the right path for them, opportunities they couldn't get otherwise and guess what. I went to college on student loans and scholarships. I'll be paying those loans off for a long time, but i still got to college and saying the military path makes it a free ride is a crock of crap. I can be honest and say that the structure of the military was not appealing to me.. So i found other ways to pay for school...

Response by Jamie Halfen made May 23 at 2016 4:01 PM

Jamie Halfen — Mon, 23 May 2016 16:01:20 -0400

I am the daughter of a Military Family. I grew up on Military Bases in the US and overseas. I do not truly know what it is like to be on the front lines depending on my brother in arms to have my back, but I did learn at a very early age about Sacrifice, Duty, Honor and Respect. I may not always agree with what is happening, but I RESPECT those that put themselves out there so I can have a BBQ for my son on his birthday in Smalltown, USA. I also Respect that we all have a right to our thoughts and the right to express our opinions as I am right now. However, and I am not sure when it happened, but the shift towards disrespect in this country for our men and women who serve is not Honorable. For me, go ahead and protest, but do so respectfully. Don't piss on the boots on the same people who fight for your right to express your opinion, because you know you'll be the first one to ask them to do it again when it's your back that needs covering. Yes, I think we all know someone who signed up for the college tuition and not because they felt Duty Bound or Honor Bound to serve, but I refuse to believe that to be the status quo. There are too many Honorable service members that have sacrificed their lives and their life with their families to protect not just our lives in the United States, but the lives of so many others in other countries. Thank you to every single one of you. There will always be those who oppose what the military does or what it stands for, but this Military Brat will always be on the front lines here at home for you. Thank you.

Response by SrA Justin Kelley made May 23 at 2016 4:40 PM

SrA Justin Kelley — Mon, 23 May 2016 16:40:12 -0400

Meh. The son of our enemies grow up to be our children's enemies. Its the circle of life. Always war. There will never be peace. Personally I wouldn't interct with the chidren. Maybe evacuate them from the premises, to a shelter but it is life.

Response by PVT John Ingram made May 23 at 2016 5:38 PM

PVT John Ingram — Mon, 23 May 2016 17:38:48 -0400

Check it out. I may not have served long, but I respect everyone in the armed forces. It is by their hard work that we are free and people tend to not realize this.

Response by PV2 Adam Gott made May 23 at 2016 9:32 PM

PV2 Adam Gott — Mon, 23 May 2016 21:32:36 -0400

what the actual fuck?

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 7:02 AM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 07:02:18 -0400

It's just a stupid cartoon. Who cares?

Response by Aaron Marceaux made May 24 at 2016 8:58 AM

Aaron Marceaux — Tue, 24 May 2016 08:58:45 -0400

That kid will be holding an rpg next time you see him. Take him out too!

Response by LCpl Peter Collins made May 24 at 2016 10:06 AM

LCpl Peter Collins — Tue, 24 May 2016 10:06:53 -0400

This is disgusting. This makes out troops look like murderers. It makes it look like he busted the door and shot the guy up. And then the kid showed up. and to blame the politicians for anything you did while you were in is ridiculous. You signed on the same damn line, BY CHOICE, that we all did. College money or not, you knew he possibilities. Quit being a sissy and man up to your choice to SERVE in the MILITARY. Own up to your life.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 11:52 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 11:52:12 -0400

This maybe true for some but not all and you can't blame all for the bad bunch. I have dealt with many a bad apple though some join for negative reasons and those are the ones who shame our military.

Response by HN Francine Price made May 24 at 2016 12:32 PM

HN Francine Price — Tue, 24 May 2016 12:32:59 -0400

This is emotional abuse of children to the umpteenth degree. Why should teenagers in high school have to be emotionally coerced into joining the military if their families are too poor to afford college? This is bullshit!

Response by SGT Bryan Horton made May 24 at 2016 1:18 PM

SGT Bryan Horton — Tue, 24 May 2016 13:18:22 -0400

There is something wrong with the mindset of many American citizens. They are without common sense and logic, and wisdom. We are a nation today that is not well educated on what made America great. No longer is American history being taught in our public schools, Universities and colleges like it suppose to be taught. Our founders have said, this nation depends on a well educated populace.

Response by Josh Yazel made May 24 at 2016 1:32 PM

Josh Yazel — Tue, 24 May 2016 13:32:53 -0400

I don't like it. I am a strong supporter of the military, have relatives and friends in the military... was not allowed in due to medical reasons... and this is some liberal quacks take who doesn't know what it's like to even be proud of the country they are in nor what the soldiers do.

Response by SSgt Josh Allore made May 24 at 2016 2:34 PM

SSgt Josh Allore — Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:32 -0400

Just because you have a different opinion, does not make what was drawn wrong. Bottom line....... Who cares! If you joined, you know why you joined. What does it matter if someone does this. Ignore it. Defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic. You raised your hand and swore an oath. That oath included the right to free speech. That included written and drawings or expressions. Unfortunately you and all other Military members, including myself, technically do not have that freedom in some situations. Your job is to paint the military in a positive light and do your job to the best of your ability. If this is bothering you that much, maybe you should try and represent our military in a positive manner. Rather than show your negativity toward something so minuscule. Put your energy to good use.

Again, this is my opinion. You don't have to agree. Doesn't mean I am wrong. Technically doesn't even mean you're wrong either.

Response by Ryan Banning made May 24 at 2016 6:52 PM

Ryan Banning — Tue, 24 May 2016 18:52:32 -0400

I take issue with this. It is a sensationalized, imaginary situation that someone dreamed up to pull at heart strings and incite a negative reaction for political gain. Disingenuous and disrespectful at best.

Response by HN Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 6:55 PM

HN Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 18:55:06 -0400

Everyone has a different war

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 7:20 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 19:20:55 -0400

This cartoon is not realistic and is insulting to Soldiers EVERYWHERE! Very distasteful.

Response by TSgt TIna Laing made May 24 at 2016 8:52 PM

TSgt TIna Laing — Tue, 24 May 2016 20:52:16 -0400

Sad ... just sad. This is how they view us. So glad we sacrifice so much to be viewed this way ... yeah, that's painful.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2016 10:23 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 May 2016 22:23:28 -0400

It's a cartoon, it's scribbles on a page. It only has the meaning that you believe it to have. I take no issue with this; I don't agree with it, but I'm not upset.

Response by SPC Derrick Welfare made May 25 at 2016 1:38 PM

SPC Derrick Welfare — Wed, 25 May 2016 13:38:14 -0400

G I bill is an added benefit for our selfless service. The guy that made this distasteful is probably a goat loving turd.
E4 91B US Army 2013 to 2016 greatest time of my life. And college is going great too!

Response by Matthew Pacholski made May 25 at 2016 7:16 PM

Matthew Pacholski — Wed, 25 May 2016 19:16:47 -0400

Do I support their right to do something like that? Yes, it is protected in our constitution. Is it accurate? No, far from it. It just takes a little bit of common sense to know this

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2016 9:23 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 25 May 2016 21:23:05 -0400

Obviously a Muslim Extremist sympathizer, I would take the kid in for questioning just to be sure he wasn't part of the problem.... On a serious note, I just want to know what the author of the cartoon has against the 3rd ID?....

Response by PFC Jeffery Moses made May 26 at 2016 4:21 AM

PFC Jeffery Moses — Thu, 26 May 2016 04:21:01 -0400

I like it, it speaks volumes clearly someone that is in the military or that was is its Arthur. I've heard a lot of military personnel say the exact same thing. Everyone joins for their own personal reasons and when bad things happen they are usually attributed to orders. As far as I can tell this is so very true. Complaining about someone with integrity from an organization that preaches integrity as one of its key principles is not a good look.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2016 8:22 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 May 2016 08:22:57 -0400

OMG !!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2016 11:56 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 May 2016 11:56:42 -0400

its perspective, you can look at it from the soldiers view, he feels its his duty while in the military to carry out the mission given to him and to protect the people to the left and right of him however cliché that may sound that's the truth. There are service members that joined the military for college founding and have been deployed and carried out missions and been in situations that they felt obligating to or just reacted to, that might have been against their moral code or their beliefs. Seeing the collateral damage and destruction left is something that can be haunting and difficult to cope with, but
looking at it as soldiers are good people, but receive evil kill orders from the army and its command projecting that the army is some sort of missionary group that does not care about civilian casualties is completely offensive and ignorant. America and its military is like any other countries military they are in place to defend our land and its countrymen, but because of the media and freedom or speech and protest our military is constantly scrutinized by our own people and the rest of the world, because they have this persona that soldiers are diplomats or ambassadors, but we are not we are soldiers.

Response by Andrea Ludwigsen made May 26 at 2016 2:59 PM

Andrea Ludwigsen — Thu, 26 May 2016 14:59:20 -0400

Its not about our Military, its about what the bastards in Washington are doing to our Military.

Response by LCpl Lovell Hawes made May 26 at 2016 3:15 PM

LCpl Lovell Hawes — Thu, 26 May 2016 15:15:33 -0400

I joined for one reason only. If I did not then there was no guarantee that someone else would. Even if someone else did, it should be my responsibility equally as much as theirs. Defense of this nation should be the interest of all Americans. Even if they cannot be in service directly. The greatest generation have their best stories just Ohama Beach or on Iwo Jima. The whole generation was involved right down to those who couldn't put on the uniform.

Response by SN Steven Lyon made May 26 at 2016 8:41 PM

SN Steven Lyon — Thu, 26 May 2016 20:41:36 -0400

I was the only one of my class mates from my home town to enlist in the Navy. I've seen more people I grew up with come home under flags then I care to recount. So seeing this kind of cartoon infuriates me beyond reason.

Response by PO2 Michael Kilpatrick made May 26 at 2016 9:05 PM

PO2 Michael Kilpatrick — Thu, 26 May 2016 21:05:43 -0400

SGM makes a wonderful point. War is ugly, and I never fired a rifle in vain. So, it's hard for me to speak. I can, however say that I joined to pay for school. I didnt always like my orders but, a good sailor does what he's told when he's told. Argue your politics when you get out. Follow orders when you're still in. Simple.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2016 10:55 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 May 2016 22:55:02 -0400

I may not respect the creators opinion, but we have all fought for their right to have an opinion. This is freedom of speech and it even though it pisses me off to see, in some ways it doesn't merely due tot he fact a lot of countries don't have the freedom to speak out as we do. Yes, a lot of countries have "freedom" but not like ours.

Response by SGT Dylan Durant made May 27 at 2016 9:08 AM

SGT Dylan Durant — Fri, 27 May 2016 09:08:00 -0400

I just hate that it makes it out like we'll kill anyone to get a college education. It's the job we do to ensure there are fewer enemies that might make it onto our home turf. No one said it was pretty.

Response by MSG Scott O'Hagan made May 27 at 2016 10:04 AM

MSG Scott O'Hagan — Fri, 27 May 2016 10:04:12 -0400

Doesn't bother me

Response by CPL Michael Wayman made May 27 at 2016 2:32 PM

CPL Michael Wayman — Fri, 27 May 2016 14:32:19 -0400

Pathetic!

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2016 3:01 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 May 2016 15:01:21 -0400

This was obviously made by someone who has no clue.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2016 3:18 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 May 2016 15:18:17 -0400

Sad others see us like this but true in a sense. We didn't all join for money and college some of us are patriots. I dare say not every kids dead parents were inocent. A better version of this cartoon would be to add an AK-47 to the kids hands or a bomb strapped to him.

Response by PFC Christopher Jones made May 27 at 2016 6:48 PM

PFC Christopher Jones — Fri, 27 May 2016 18:48:39 -0400

So what...look kid your dad got bested be better then him.

Response by SSG Matthew Bases made May 27 at 2016 7:38 PM

SSG Matthew Bases — Fri, 27 May 2016 19:38:25 -0400

He obviously was a POG

Response by PO3 Tom Hartman made May 27 at 2016 10:19 PM

PO3 Tom Hartman — Fri, 27 May 2016 22:19:14 -0400

I didn't do it for college money! I did it as a job and because I love my country. I re enlisted because I loved the job!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 27 at 2016 11:12 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 May 2016 23:12:25 -0400

I think the solder is a millennial.

Response by SGT Adam Reed made May 27 at 2016 11:40 PM

SGT Adam Reed — Fri, 27 May 2016 23:40:32 -0400

1st amendment is an arguably beautiful and terrible thing depending what side of the fence your on. I wouldn't trade it for anything. As hurtful as it can be it doesn't mean the author nor public could ever understand.

Response by SPC Al Carney made May 27 at 2016 11:42 PM

SPC Al Carney — Fri, 27 May 2016 23:42:14 -0400

No reason to be ashamed of making the green grass grow...

Response by SP5 Ryan Boyer made May 28 at 2016 12:13 AM

SP5 Ryan Boyer — Sat, 28 May 2016 00:13:59 -0400

Just laugh and let it go cuz the f*k who did this just wants the attention. Learn not to give a shit what people think. For us who served we are the only ones who understand.

Response by MSgt Michelle Mondia made May 28 at 2016 1:46 AM

MSgt Michelle Mondia — Sat, 28 May 2016 01:46:00 -0400

It's pretty spot on. Most people join because of the benefits. Most military members are from the middle class or below. The 1% doesn't serve their country, they make wars for profit and enlist the underclass to fight them. For college money. Cause for some reason tuition in this country has to ridiculously high! If college was free you'd see a drop in enlistment for sure. Beyond that, these kids have no idea who they are fighting and why, most of them were in 1st grade on 9/11.

Response by SPC Chris Bain made May 28 at 2016 7:43 AM

SPC Chris Bain — Sat, 28 May 2016 07:43:11 -0400

It's the freedom hating islamifacists that are to blame. Also, I doubt anyone would be cold hearted to a child that is a victim of that hate filled death cult.

Response by SPC Tony Busby made May 28 at 2016 8:48 AM

SPC Tony Busby — Sat, 28 May 2016 08:48:05 -0400

I personally don't care much for this.... Not all of us joined for collage money... I joined after 9/11 because I felt it was the right thing to do for our country. I do know a lot of service members who did join for the money for collage but not all of us did.

Response by CW2 Chuck Hoelzel made May 28 at 2016 12:32 PM

CW2 Chuck Hoelzel — Sat, 28 May 2016 12:32:07 -0400

Why would you feel the need to defend yourself. The person who drew this has no idea what they are talking about. They probably have never even been to one of the war zones.

Response by PV2 Anthony Mendoza made May 28 at 2016 1:29 PM

PV2 Anthony Mendoza — Sat, 28 May 2016 13:29:34 -0400

Unfortunately, we are fighting a political war and I've got nothing against guys signing up for college, however, it shouldn't be the only motivation behind their service. Do I like the cartoon? No. Does it depict the truth? Yes

Response by SPC Tiffany Benson made May 28 at 2016 5:19 PM

SPC Tiffany Benson — Sat, 28 May 2016 17:19:33 -0400

You know what, sometimes thats what soldiers have to say to ourselves. Because sometimes we have to do things like this. And the only way we can justify it in our own minds to keep going is to give these type of reasons or we couldnt continue on. The toll of taking life is unimaginable. But its sometimes necessary and if this soldiers has to say that to himself to keep going then its whatever. Orders are orders whether we like them or not, majority of the time. There are unlawful orders but you know what, Bin laden had children, didnt mean he didnt deserve to die all the same.

Response by Sgt Shawn Michael made May 28 at 2016 5:27 PM

Sgt Shawn Michael — Sat, 28 May 2016 17:27:33 -0400

It's all kinds of wrong. It's a liberal political cartoon that portrays us as mindless robots with no honor.... and where is this guys fire team?!?!?

Response by SPC Ken Oswald made May 28 at 2016 6:40 PM

SPC Ken Oswald — Sat, 28 May 2016 18:40:49 -0400

FUBAR

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2016 7:17 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 May 2016 19:17:34 -0400

Can't really say much about it. You joined (even if you don't agree with it) to defend others right to speak there mind. Can't tell them they're wrong for doing as such.

Response by SPC Robert Long made May 28 at 2016 9:04 PM

SPC Robert Long — Sat, 28 May 2016 21:04:01 -0400

Hmm well it depends I dont have any emotion i already barried my whole family then served my time started at 17 years of age , MOS 12B/21B so i have no sympathy for anyones death but those that have my back when i have thiers , those fucking people shoot to kill with no understanding and im suppose to be sorry HAHAHAAH get fucking real no i lost friends thanks and im all for AMERICA HOOAH !! Not by ignorant or lack of understanding cause i understand when your life is threatened you take no shit and put them down if you cant handle the fucking truth then dont ask for it , minus the signing up for school bit i plan on heading to SF so please tell me where us that give everything to be insulted should give a fuck by the other countries we fight and our own we are always degrading but always needed so , if you have opinions that a bible thumper cares about tell them and stop sobbing on here im all for my freedom i sure as fuck know i gave it up to let the civilians do all the stupid shit they do instead of respect and appriciate the lives they are giving

Response by CPL Mitch Newman made May 28 at 2016 9:08 PM

CPL Mitch Newman — Sat, 28 May 2016 21:08:15 -0400

Former friend!! Makes my blood boil!!

Response by SPC Matt Leser made May 28 at 2016 10:11 PM

SPC Matt Leser — Sat, 28 May 2016 22:11:43 -0400

That's not even close to what we do......

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2016 10:14 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 May 2016 22:14:28 -0400

Find another friend.

Response by SP5 Jonathon Henson made May 28 at 2016 10:28 PM

SP5 Jonathon Henson — Sat, 28 May 2016 22:28:49 -0400

I think it's a double edged sword, on one side the liberals like to make war sound evil and useless. On the other side, the side where we know war has a purpose. It's never pretty but it's necessary. I love my country, but not some of the leaders.

Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2016 11:11 PM

SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 May 2016 23:11:58 -0400

This cartoon however distasteful is a fact of our modern recruiting strategy. So I see a lot enlist for college and then realize they joined the military. In the last 6 months alone I've had to separate 5 from the military that couldn't adapt. The problem is society doesn't understand what it takes to defend this nation and when the reality of war is seen by the latte sipping civilians they freak out. Then the jelly spines in DC get involved and we have no top cover for the mission we have been charged to execute.

Response by CPL Ryan Tabak made May 28 at 2016 11:48 PM

CPL Ryan Tabak — Sat, 28 May 2016 23:48:11 -0400

Fucking stupid and boogus

Response by PVT Timmy Clements made May 29 at 2016 12:06 AM

PVT Timmy Clements — Sun, 29 May 2016 00:06:23 -0400

I never signed for money... That's bs

Response by Melody Gamble made May 29 at 2016 5:59 AM

Melody Gamble — Sun, 29 May 2016 05:59:54 -0400

I am rather disgusted by this. Yes people use the GI BILL to go to college after their service. But they usually join the forces to SERVE our country. The bonus is college when done. Very offended by the cartoon.

Response by SPC Joel Schwartz made May 29 at 2016 8:12 AM

SPC Joel Schwartz — Sun, 29 May 2016 08:12:11 -0400

Not good

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2016 8:55 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 May 2016 08:55:35 -0400

I feel that the LOAC tends to limit our use of force. So this isn't accurate. It also resonates with me because while we are required to follow the lawful orders of our superior officers, we also have the right to refuse if it is in violation of other laws etc. A gray area for sure however.

Response by SP5 Gene Lewis made May 29 at 2016 11:02 AM

SP5 Gene Lewis — Sun, 29 May 2016 11:02:19 -0400

Some truth in this....the Soldier performs his or her duty as dictated by the leadership in Washington. Also, there is no shame in joining the armed forces to advance ones life. What matters is the quality of service rendered while serving.

Response by SPC Tom Pittala made May 29 at 2016 11:15 AM

SPC Tom Pittala — Sun, 29 May 2016 11:15:09 -0400

That's fucked up

Response by SP5 Tony Johnson made May 29 at 2016 11:15 AM

SP5 Tony Johnson — Sun, 29 May 2016 11:15:26 -0400

3rd ID is a terrible way to earn college money! Lol he may have been better earning college tuition as an 88mike! What doesn't kill you makes you stronger... Except for the infantry, the infantry will kill you!

Response by Mark Yerrick Mearing made May 29 at 2016 1:33 PM

Mark Yerrick Mearing — Sun, 29 May 2016 13:33:59 -0400

This is bullshit, I have family that served, and it wasn't for college tuition!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2016 2:45 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 May 2016 14:45:02 -0400

Assuming he followed ROE & EOF, his reasons for enlisting nor the civilian policy makers' reasons for his unit to be in the AO matter. Trying to explain to the locals why you just responding to a threat with deadly force to make damn sure your boys go home in one piece will never end in anything other than condemnation and anger. Do the job, follow the common sense guidelines and get back CONUS ad healthy as possible. Disregard any verbal diahreea from the armchair quarterbacks, service members or not.

Response by SGT Owen Swearingen made May 29 at 2016 3:28 PM

SGT Owen Swearingen — Sun, 29 May 2016 15:28:26 -0400

Yep, they still give me a reason to be annoyed with them. All hail the brave civilian

Response by FN Chris Rama made May 29 at 2016 4:38 PM

FN Chris Rama — Sun, 29 May 2016 16:38:36 -0400

We are the US military we don't kill just to kill. If there those out there that do they need to be put down like the dogs they are . That's how I feel about this cartoon typical media or liberals lie to the world about the military .

Response by SSgt Liz Miller made May 29 at 2016 5:02 PM

SSgt Liz Miller — Sun, 29 May 2016 17:02:34 -0400

That's what to expect (the cartoon, not reality) from these younger generations that think it's their "freedom of speech" rights, and probably think it's ok to stomp on and or burn the flag. They should all have mandatory Correctional Custody on base for bullshit like that. Respect your military. Maybe one of Jane Fonda's relatives drew it

Response by LCpl Martinez L made May 29 at 2016 5:51 PM

LCpl Martinez L — Sun, 29 May 2016 17:51:07 -0400

Personaly I hate shit like this because most of the Solders I know (family members mostly) signed up merly because of the benefits, while I joined because I want to be apart of of something bigger than myself and the fact that i love my country so dearly that I am willing to die for it. So to me this cartoon categorizes us all in a selfish and disgraceful manor.

Response by SPC Nate Green made May 29 at 2016 5:59 PM

SPC Nate Green — Sun, 29 May 2016 17:59:24 -0400

As angry as it makes me this is what we all have gave a lil something for right ? Don't get me wrong he needs a nice tune up for disrespect but if we all had stuff banned every time we got offended there would not be any freedoms left

Response by SPC Walter Cowan made May 29 at 2016 6:10 PM

SPC Walter Cowan — Sun, 29 May 2016 18:10:53 -0400

This is why those who never served will never appreciate anything

Response by SPC Colin Wells made May 29 at 2016 7:42 PM

SPC Colin Wells — Sun, 29 May 2016 19:42:36 -0400

Edgy.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2016 8:46 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 May 2016 20:46:32 -0400

I dont like it. Thats not how i want to see anyone or my self.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 29 at 2016 9:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 May 2016 21:11:40 -0400

It is a gross misrepresentation of the military as a whole, however the political aspect isn't. I don't really like it, but it is free speech, I can easily ignore it, which is the problem for most people. If it offends them they want to squash it, even resort to attacking the poster verbally and threatening physical violence. Don't be that service member, you know who you are and why you serve, be the sheep dog, not one of the sheep.

Response by Cpl AshleyAaron Beniston made May 29 at 2016 9:13 PM

Cpl AshleyAaron Beniston — Sun, 29 May 2016 21:13:38 -0400

Looks like a failure to stop drill

Response by SGT Eugene Speer made May 29 at 2016 11:00 PM

SGT Eugene Speer — Sun, 29 May 2016 23:00:35 -0400

Hey Kid. This is War. If you ever feel the need to be pissed. Here's my info. G,day.

Response by TSgt Josh Jones made May 29 at 2016 11:40 PM

TSgt Josh Jones — Sun, 29 May 2016 23:40:55 -0400

That's crap

Response by PVT Dallas Brookes made May 30 at 2016 6:53 AM

PVT Dallas Brookes — Mon, 30 May 2016 06:53:45 -0400

Very disrespectful.

Response by PO2 Billy Batson made May 30 at 2016 8:06 AM

PO2 Billy Batson — Mon, 30 May 2016 08:06:08 -0400

That's B's I joined to defend my country

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2016 9:41 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 May 2016 09:41:21 -0400

It's true at least for most of the people from my time in

Response by Edward Horton made May 30 at 2016 10:59 AM

Edward Horton — Mon, 30 May 2016 10:59:07 -0400

BS liberals trying to spread their hate propaganda

Response by SPC Terry Martin made May 30 at 2016 12:27 PM

SPC Terry Martin — Mon, 30 May 2016 12:27:33 -0400

Haven't seen this one before, but it's a put down of the Dedication of those who took that "Step Forward." Would be very hard to find anyone in this day and age with what's going on in the world that would join just for an education.

It reminds me of some of the ones my local paper puts in that are always degrading to military, war, cops, religion, etc. Today's representation for Memorial Day was the Statue of Liberty hold the torch on her right and a long list of all that have died in war.

Response by SPC Ciro Camacho made May 30 at 2016 1:57 PM

SPC Ciro Camacho — Mon, 30 May 2016 13:57:07 -0400

Isn't this what they're offering us to join? What else do we have to go off of. Were ordered and trained to obey. No one soldier is supposed to have a mind of their own. It's only explaining this new army...

Response by SGT James Edwards made May 30 at 2016 3:08 PM

SGT James Edwards — Mon, 30 May 2016 15:08:31 -0400

This is kinda messed up. Especially since it has 3id patch in it

Response by PO3 Arthur Parks made May 30 at 2016 3:31 PM

PO3 Arthur Parks — Mon, 30 May 2016 15:31:29 -0400

Is that a benefit? Yes. Is that why we join- Hell NO

Response by SGT Shawn Schweinberg made May 30 at 2016 4:32 PM

SGT Shawn Schweinberg — Mon, 30 May 2016 16:32:12 -0400

This cartoon is designed to mislead those reading it. It's simple propaganda. And it's said to see crap like this.

Response by Bonnie Karr made May 30 at 2016 6:25 PM

Bonnie Karr — Mon, 30 May 2016 18:25:20 -0400

Sickening!!! People who feel like this should be shipped off to the Middle East and left there

Response by Sgt Aman Deol made May 30 at 2016 8:33 PM

Sgt Aman Deol — Mon, 30 May 2016 20:33:31 -0400

Ive never heard of this happening. Smells of liberal media stirring shit up again trying to blame us just like in vietnam. Name onet instance this happened besides that maniac in Afghanistan who went UA. I never hurt any innocent civilians fk off

Response by Sgt Aman Deol made May 30 at 2016 8:33 PM

Sgt Aman Deol — Mon, 30 May 2016 20:33:31 -0400

Response by Sgt Aman Deol made May 30 at 2016 8:33 PM

Sgt Aman Deol — Mon, 30 May 2016 20:33:31 -0400

Response by SGT Daniel Torres made May 30 at 2016 8:59 PM

SGT Daniel Torres — Mon, 30 May 2016 20:59:16 -0400

I definitely disagree with this analogy of the average Soldier, Marine, Sailor or Airmen, but without a doubt there is a percentage of them that are in all the branches of service.

Response by LCpl Kevin Lynch made May 30 at 2016 9:15 PM

LCpl Kevin Lynch — Mon, 30 May 2016 21:15:16 -0400

I personally don't like it. I know me and a lot of my fellow brothers joined the military to fight for their country and what this country was founded on. They don't always have to support and agree with the political aspect of it but in the end they are fighting for what the men and women fought for in 1776

Response by PFC Charles Bushman made May 30 at 2016 9:53 PM

PFC Charles Bushman — Mon, 30 May 2016 21:53:51 -0400

This cartoon is completely crap this not what our military is about.

Response by SSgt Michael Demkowicz made May 30 at 2016 10:38 PM

SSgt Michael Demkowicz — Mon, 30 May 2016 22:38:03 -0400

All I see is someone's interpretation of what they think a soldier is all about. Any experienced veteran knows the difference between a lawful order and an unlawful one.... Lol it should only offend civilians who think this is how military life really is....

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2016 10:38 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 May 2016 22:38:22 -0400

That shit bag should have been weeded out. He would never have been in my squad.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2016 11:09 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 May 2016 23:09:17 -0400

That's bullshit!

Response by Cadet PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 30 at 2016 11:44 PM

Cadet PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 May 2016 23:44:30 -0400

I don't like how the people who were shot being portrayed as innocent people in there home being shot for no reason and that the only reason people go to serve is for money which is not true

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2016 12:40 AM

LCpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 May 2016 00:40:04 -0400

I know there was a class on how to speak to locals with tact or some shit.

Response by Barbara Sullivan made May 31 at 2016 1:47 AM

Barbara Sullivan — Tue, 31 May 2016 01:47:54 -0400

First, everyone has a right to their opinion, which is what the cartoon creator is doing. That is one of the things our military is defending.

Second, it reminds me of a kid I met in college I seriously wanted to slap the hell out of. He went on about how our military sucks, are baby killers, and how he refused to serve even if his number was called. He stated that he would run and hide. That is the short of what the kid said. I told him it was cowardly and that I am proud and honored to be an Army brat and married to a Navyman. I am honored because I come from a long line of military who defend his right to be so ill educated about who and what our military represents and fights for.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2016 2:03 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 May 2016 02:03:35 -0400

I'd like to stand on the throat of whoever created this and look into their eyes as the light fades. Complete disrespect of every man and woman in uniform. Kindly take a shotgun and wash your mouth out with the muzzle. Yes, you are entitled to express your opinion as I am entitled to mine. Freedom of Speech and all. Just remember who gave you that right. My brothers who died. And the ones who came home in body but not in mind. We are the ones who fight battles on and off the field constantly. The pain of seeing a fallen brother never leaves your heart. So unless you've walked a mile in our boots then you will never understand. Sorry, not sorry of my beginning statement. If you're offended, good. You show me a man who has no enemies and I'll show a man who has never stood for something.

Response by SPC Marsha Wood made May 31 at 2016 2:12 AM

SPC Marsha Wood — Tue, 31 May 2016 02:12:42 -0400

I would be freaking off. That is some shit. Displaying service men and women as murderers for money.

Response by HN Jonathan Hakes made May 31 at 2016 8:36 AM

HN Jonathan Hakes — Tue, 31 May 2016 08:36:52 -0400

I take issue with the statement"I just joined to get money to go to college" personally I joined to serve the country I love to defend liberty and express my pride and patriotism! Not anything to do with college!

Response by LCpl Michael Green made May 31 at 2016 10:49 AM

LCpl Michael Green — Tue, 31 May 2016 10:49:03 -0400

There are just too many over sensitive pussies in the world today. There are people that join for college and we do What we are told. Stop being a bitch about things

Response by PV2 Erick Shamp made May 31 at 2016 11:20 AM

PV2 Erick Shamp — Tue, 31 May 2016 11:20:57 -0400

I personally find it tasteless and offensive, but that freedom they are using is just one of those we all chose to defend. Therefore if I meant the oath I took, which I did, then I can't complain or demand it be taken down, or I'm no better than the insensitive bastard who put it up.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made May 31 at 2016 11:44 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 May 2016 11:44:52 -0400

At first glance I had the same reaction as some other Marines, how did he miss the kid? And that's a bad shot grouping, but the more I look at it and read the words it seems to me to be a sarcastic response from a civilian to what they've heard from some military personnel. It is a little distasteful because some of us have lived through a situation like this. However; my experience is the terrorist killed the kid and we killed the terrorist, but somehow we get blamed for making orphans, widows and tearing apart families as if there are no other forces at work. Let the people think what they will because unless they have served in combat, they will never understand. Stand tall and stand proud brothers. Semper Fi

Response by SGT Summer Provencher made May 31 at 2016 12:02 PM

SGT Summer Provencher — Tue, 31 May 2016 12:02:31 -0400

Are you f'in kidding me!!!! This is ridiculous!!!!

Response by SGT Theresa Edmonston made May 31 at 2016 1:17 PM

SGT Theresa Edmonston — Tue, 31 May 2016 13:17:34 -0400

I have posted below part of MG Butler's, USMC, speech we looked over in one of my classes. I think this parallels well with the cartoon. I have been deployed once, my husband 4 times. If there was a better way to handle it that would be great, however the SOPs and Yes Sir No Sir do tie our hands as we do what we are told.

Smedley Butler on Interventionism

-- Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.
I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.

Response by SPC Bryan Clark made May 31 at 2016 1:21 PM

SPC Bryan Clark — Tue, 31 May 2016 13:21:41 -0400

quite frankly, this cartoon is an exact representation of my service, so no, i don't take offense to it. I understand that others joined for national pride, patriotism and everything else that goes along with those. However, that doesn't embody the entire military, not by a long shot. Myself and many others I served with were there for the benefits, the paycheck, the schooling, the paying back of loans, etc. I believe there is a misrepresentation that all who served are larger than life patriots because I know that's not the case. Not trying to piss everyone off, but seriously sit back and think. What made you join? If it was to wear that uniform and go fight in a foreign land, then you might be offended by this. But just know, in my experience and that of others, it's less than 10 percent of those serving.

Response by Dena Bledsoe-Prince made May 31 at 2016 1:26 PM

Dena Bledsoe-Prince — Tue, 31 May 2016 13:26:57 -0400

Makes me sad. They are men and women sent to do a job. There is a small percent in it for the college. But the majority are in because of love of the country. My dad did 26 years in the Marines. For his country he went to Vietnam at 17. Not for college. Makes me mad.

Response by LCpl Broch Tefft made May 31 at 2016 3:49 PM

LCpl Broch Tefft — Tue, 31 May 2016 15:49:46 -0400

It makes me sick that people see our soilders in this fashion

Response by PFC Monika Cisneros made May 31 at 2016 5:10 PM

PFC Monika Cisneros — Tue, 31 May 2016 17:10:32 -0400

Everyone has this idea that we are murderers that don't care, but what those people fail to realize that the individuals that were most impacted by this were and are still our own! We have so many vets and active that are suffering for the actions that go on down range and civis only acknowledge what they want to which is the "monsters" that we as Americans are. It is disturbing to think that others fail to see that we only responded to the TERROR that was brought in to our country. Yes two wrongs don't make a right however, if we were to allow those that threaten our country continue their actions with no repercussions then we would lose everything that are fellow comrades established.

Response by PO3 Elizabeth Iverson made May 31 at 2016 6:12 PM

PO3 Elizabeth Iverson — Tue, 31 May 2016 18:12:00 -0400

I work in a prison now and the media is always ripping us a new one. I didn't serve in a war, my prayers to anyone who is or has. We all need to buckle up and hang on for the ride, these ISIS f$&ks are only going to get worse, and I have nothing but disgust for any British or Americans who join these terrorists!!!

Response by PO1 Michael Haag made May 31 at 2016 7:28 PM

PO1 Michael Haag — Tue, 31 May 2016 19:28:14 -0400

Rediculous

Response by SrA Andrew Kephart made May 31 at 2016 9:50 PM

SrA Andrew Kephart — Tue, 31 May 2016 21:50:46 -0400

Now I am pissed

Response by Sgt Lance Medlin made May 31 at 2016 10:52 PM

Sgt Lance Medlin — Tue, 31 May 2016 22:52:03 -0400

Seems like a harsh and unfair generalization.

Response by Will Mattheis made May 31 at 2016 11:56 PM

Will Mattheis — Tue, 31 May 2016 23:56:38 -0400

Defending our Country is one thing fighting against people who want us destroyed but Slandering it is a whole other situation and not funny one bit

Response by William S Hightchew III made Jun 1 at 2016 1:16 AM

William S Hightchew III — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 01:16:14 -0400

It's not right whoever put that up is saying that our military would prefer to kill people so they can go to college which is bullshit . I, myself, enlisted in the USMC almost 8 years ago, and I didn't do it for college money, I did it for my country. Although I was injured in training and medically discharged I was still willing to lay down my life for the country and the people that I love.

Response by William S Hightchew III made Jun 1 at 2016 1:18 AM

William S Hightchew III — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 01:18:26 -0400

Response by Lo Aldrete made Jun 1 at 2016 7:29 AM

Lo Aldrete — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 07:29:06 -0400

Our boys do what they have to do to get their job done. Period. I am and always will be proud of every single one of them.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 8:06 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 08:06:34 -0400

Not really offensive to be honest but then again I am with a grunt unit. The problem I think people may have here is a freedom of speech issue, welcome to the USA. Military members defend then many rights that we have, and like it or not this is what we defend. Personally keep the freedom of speech rolling gents.

Response by Sgt Brad Tiegs made Jun 1 at 2016 10:00 AM

Sgt Brad Tiegs — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:00:53 -0400

Makes an interesting talking point both violently wrong and painful true.

Response by LCpl Mac Fields made Jun 1 at 2016 10:17 AM

LCpl Mac Fields — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:17:53 -0400

In any war civilians will die. Sad but true. However this is a tasteless cartoon with a very leftist view of our armed forces, drawing them as butchers of the innocent rather than defenders of freedom that they actually are !

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 10:23 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:23:40 -0400

Does not bother me one bit. Deployed four times,vthey can post whatever they like. It's what I fought for......

Response by CPL Derek Carr made Jun 1 at 2016 10:50 AM

CPL Derek Carr — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:50:00 -0400

I realize it's offensive, but the truth is, sometimes very harsh. Yes, clearing a building often leads to a dry hole. But I've never come across this particular situation either. I imagine it's happened, and assume someone had to explain this to a child, or wanted the ability to.
I don't judge what other people's thought and feelings are.

Response by SPC Raymond Barber made Jun 1 at 2016 11:07 AM

SPC Raymond Barber — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 11:07:36 -0400

I see nothing wrong with this meme. It unfortunately gives a honest look on the type of soldiers we have today. In generations past, people volunteered and were drafted to fight for the ideals of the United States of America. To help those oppressed and to ensure the freedom of the US People. However, in the times of present this is NOT the case. Kids are joining the armed forces for "free" money and college tuition without understanding the true impact that military life and combat deployment mean. We have kids joining the military thinking its going to be "COOL" to go to war because of what they see on video games and movies and then they come back broken and battered. The military is no longer a fighting force comprised of well trained and well disciplined honorable warriors, it is instead filled with weak minded, "entitled" children who have no clue what being a "SOLDIER" really means. Don't get me wrong, even though I am a disabled vet, I am proud to have served in the US Army in two combat zones, but the military of today is not what I remember and to be honest, I am not proud of either.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 12:40 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 12:40:51 -0400

This is a horrible picture, it really should be taken down in (my opinion) but people we have to remember. We have all fought and we have watched out me brothers and sister lay down their lives so each and everyone no matter how idiotic they are have the freedom to post something this retarded. Don't forget the Muhammad cartoons that were being drawn a few months back. This is some of the same people probably. No good yellow belly cowards who hide behind the constitution even though they are to big a pussy to defend it. The best way to retaliate when it comes to this is by doing nothing. That will hurt them more.

Response by LCpl LuisandEunice Garcia made Jun 1 at 2016 12:41 PM

LCpl LuisandEunice Garcia — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 12:41:33 -0400

Military personnel active, Veterans,and retired have thick skins. Cartoons only hurt civilians, we only laugh and move to the next pic. Semper Fi, laugh till I die!

Response by Cara Wittchow made Jun 1 at 2016 1:43 PM

Cara Wittchow — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 13:43:17 -0400

Its pissing me off

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 2:11 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 14:11:24 -0400

who says thats that kids dad? and if anyone oughtta be offended its those that wear that patch for singling them out like this. other rhan that its freedom of expression. theyre free to show that off, as you are free to complain about it.

Response by PO1 William South made Jun 1 at 2016 3:06 PM

PO1 William South — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:06:13 -0400

Wtf!!!!!!

Response by Sheena Montano made Jun 1 at 2016 3:12 PM

Sheena Montano — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:12:24 -0400

I'm on the fence about it.. Of all the service members I know not one of them joined and risked their lives just to go to collage they did it for the pride they have in our country. But I'd call it an added bonus

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 3:18 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:18:04 -0400

Personally, I see it as political BS... Love how they portray the father, as a simple civilian sitting on his couch, and being executed.. They should had drawn an AK by his side... Because that'd probably be a more accurate description of the actual events..

Response by SSgt Steve Blatt made Jun 1 at 2016 3:18 PM

SSgt Steve Blatt — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:18:20 -0400

I agree with free speech, we would not be America without it. However, I would never say I would like to see more of this type of depiction of the Military.

Response by SN Crystal Bryant made Jun 1 at 2016 3:25 PM

SN Crystal Bryant — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:25:21 -0400

Disgraceful

Response by SFC Michael Ament made Jun 1 at 2016 3:50 PM

SFC Michael Ament — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:50:15 -0400

Summarizes how someone puts him/her self short, crazed from to many deployments. As a matter of fact this very thing was uttered from some of my troops during deployments. Don't think there's anything significant about it, just BS.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 4:18 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:18:20 -0400

They need men like this, those who kill without feeling or emotion. Those willing to do whatever it takes to win. Sadly our government and need for political correctness binds the hands of victory! The wars would be done very quickly if we fought the way we should!

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 5:31 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:31:06 -0400

Ask yourself. Is this fact or fiction on a wide scale. Sucks i know.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 6:04 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:04:20 -0400

It is offensive but that's the beauty of America. I complain about how everyone is offended too easily and how they seem to think that the right to not be offended by someone else's expression of their God given rights is part of the 1st amendment so what kind of person would I be to say that we should be a protected group. What I love about the path that we have all chosen is the irony that we fought for other people's right to be ignorant and speak on behalf of things they know nothing about nor will ever understand. Let them be ignorant, however it is an entirely different situation if someone is to choose to be disrespectful to my face haha

Response by MSG Matthew Smith made Jun 1 at 2016 6:07 PM

MSG Matthew Smith — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:07:38 -0400

It's disrespectful

Response by SSG Joshua Holloway made Jun 1 at 2016 6:36 PM

SSG Joshua Holloway — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:36:16 -0400

We don't inadvertently kick down doors without a BOLO and the Intel to back it up. If you shoot, you had just cause under the ROE to do it. Screw the liberal jacknuts that try to make more of it than it is.

Response by SSgt Randy Wilson made Jun 1 at 2016 6:50 PM

SSgt Randy Wilson — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:50:33 -0400

I would be willing to bet that the poge that created this cartoon was one of those sorry douche bags that joined solely for college benefits.

Response by SPC Dale Campbell made Jun 1 at 2016 8:06 PM

SPC Dale Campbell — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:06:33 -0400

Just doing as he was told. That's what we were trained to do.

Response by Pvt Andrew Leviskia made Jun 1 at 2016 9:05 PM

Pvt Andrew Leviskia — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:05:44 -0400

I will die to defend the artist and his right to draw anything he wants. And the anger it generates comes from a play of self doubt. And all warriors ought to be introspective. Or do we ban offensive art?

Response by SPC Shannon Szukala made Jun 1 at 2016 10:41 PM

SPC Shannon Szukala — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 22:41:38 -0400

Liberals.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 1 at 2016 11:30 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:30:38 -0400

Reality isn't always pretty. ROE says the kid is a noncombatant- take his biometrics, because we may be facing him as an adversary in a few years

Response by Josh Praska made Jun 1 at 2016 11:46 PM

Josh Praska — Wed, 01 Jun 2016 23:46:09 -0400

Very disrespectful

Response by Sgt Jared Calabrese made Jun 2 at 2016 12:00 AM

Sgt Jared Calabrese — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 00:00:07 -0400

I agree that the majority of military members, joined for the benefits over "service to their country".
However, this cartoon perpetuates the notion that humans are not responsible for their own actions if they are acting under orders, which is morally flawed

Response by PO2 Adam Poindexter made Jun 2 at 2016 2:00 AM

PO2 Adam Poindexter — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 02:00:34 -0400

I hate that recruiters push the "free college" thing to get kids to sign up. They should focus on how it is every Americans responsibility if able bodied and sound mind to serve. I hate how this generation is all about free shit! Give me this, give me that. Something has got to change and fast

Response by SSG Cody Reyes made Jun 2 at 2016 4:09 AM

SSG Cody Reyes — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 04:09:31 -0400

What's with his uniform? That flag is facing the song way.

Response by SGT Tim Thomas made Jun 2 at 2016 8:24 AM

SGT Tim Thomas — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 08:24:47 -0400

The truth sometimes hurts.

Response by SSG Ronald Cromwell made Jun 2 at 2016 10:52 AM

SSG Ronald Cromwell — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 10:52:28 -0400

I can see the outrage about this but in honesty it is true. I mean there a million soldiers and sailors that would not have went on their own

Response by 1SG Billye Jackson made Jun 2 at 2016 6:12 PM

1SG Billye Jackson — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 18:12:53 -0400

It Pisses me Off Big time. I would Delete it and Block hem.

Response by SPC Jerrad Manning made Jun 2 at 2016 6:58 PM

SPC Jerrad Manning — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 18:58:54 -0400

Controversial? Yes. Insightful. More so than you might think. If you are immediately offended by this, it might be worth it to take a moment to step back to see the big picture. This topic is gray any way you slice it, and very taboo. It's the never ending question of what's "right".

Response by SGT Thomas Simmons made Jun 2 at 2016 8:23 PM

SGT Thomas Simmons — Thu, 02 Jun 2016 20:23:03 -0400

No flak vest (IOTV), has M16A1 and has no respect for Unit or Country.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2016 12:10 AM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:10:47 -0400

Honestly, I see both ends of the spectrum. I didn't join just for the party and education. Granted, it was a bonus, but I joined because of my own family military history and to ensure my family and friends were safe and able to to continue our legacy. I can't say all the people who joined for just the pay and benefits are gone. I continue to see them. But I hope that when I leave this great Navy, they will be widdled down in numbers and the individuals who honestly care about this country and it's existence as a free one, continue to thrive and flourish.

Response by SPC Kevin Stidham made Jun 3 at 2016 12:43 AM

SPC Kevin Stidham — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:43:08 -0400

I agree with the freedom of speech/expression aspect of this that many of you have pointed out. This is merely the expression of someone who has never done our job. Some people think when we put on the uniform we become mindless killing machines. We are the same people we were before, only better. This is extremely inaccurate and we should know that without getting thin in the skin and giving this power over us. God bless

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2016 1:45 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 01:45:22 -0400

This cartoon was created by someone who *never* served and does not understand the ethics and ethos of the US Military or its history. This is just plan Disrespect to *all* Veterans past, present and future. God bless our Veterans.

Response by SPC Matt R Gibbs made Jun 3 at 2016 8:24 AM

SPC Matt R Gibbs — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:24:28 -0400

All those who have not been there need to be dropped in a combat zone

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2016 10:55 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 10:55:09 -0400

Even though I dislike this cartoon and would love to take it down right now, I joined to fight for every Americans right to say what they like without being afraid of backlash, so no matter how tasteless I find it I support whoever made it to use their voice in whatever way they feel the need. Though whoever it was probably would poop their pants if they had to deploy anywhere and do what we do.

Response by Cpl Thomas Smith made Jun 3 at 2016 12:52 PM

Cpl Thomas Smith — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:52:52 -0400

That's war that's what we do seek and destroy and bye chance there is a surviver well then I guess they'll be a story on late night news everybody will take out of concept and then signal out a lower ranking Marine to cover there own ass for a bad call they made but hey that's war

Response by SPC Matt Saito made Jun 3 at 2016 12:55 PM

SPC Matt Saito — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 12:55:32 -0400

Only have to support their right to make this cartoon, you dont hace to support the content.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2016 3:37 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 15:37:02 -0400

there is an over abundance of sensitivity coming from the ranks of the American Veteran community. We wore that uniform to uphold the constitution of the United States, in that document the people are afforded the right to free speech and press. Many of us fought in a very unpopular war and will for many years be the subject of satire...we should be able to take it with a grain of salt!

I hear a lot of vets that get bent out of shape over the most insane things, we are starting to sound like the liberal shithead college kids...you know who you are, you know what you've done, control what you can control and live your life without a chip on the shoulder. Let's not kick at all dogs that bark.

Response by SSG John Ritcher made Jun 3 at 2016 4:38 PM

SSG John Ritcher — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 16:38:33 -0400

Bunch of crap whoever drew this. Some liberal perhaps.

Response by PFC Ron Hardin made Jun 3 at 2016 6:30 PM

PFC Ron Hardin — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 18:30:24 -0400

I agree

Response by Rob Graham made Jun 3 at 2016 7:38 PM

Rob Graham — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 19:38:41 -0400

I AM pissed off that this junk makes our heroes look like puppets not free thinking souls bound by blood sweat and love of our nation.

Response by SSgt Seth Pena made Jun 3 at 2016 8:10 PM

SSgt Seth Pena — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:10:07 -0400

I would find where it originated and put the info on blast for veterans and veteran families across this country!

Response by PFC David Young made Jun 3 at 2016 10:19 PM

PFC David Young — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 22:19:38 -0400

Well I can see about the part about him saying he just joined for college making people mad but it is true that these politicians sending us to war so they can make money. It is a fact that people do profit from war.

Response by SSgt Andrew Rypkema made Jun 4 at 2016 12:03 AM

SSgt Andrew Rypkema — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 00:03:15 -0400

I think it is an absurd display of what the military is, at the same time I swore to defend the Constitution, which ensures the freedom of speech. For me personally if a person on my friends list posted this because they believed it we would have a nice long debate as to the truth and B.S. behind it. I served with pride for 10 years,

Response by LCpl Peter Carr made Jun 4 at 2016 6:11 AM

LCpl Peter Carr — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 06:11:50 -0400

Everyone has thier own reasons for joining. Some obviously more honorable than others. I served for only 4 years but did so out of honor and respect to this country that I believe in. Cartoons like this I feel cheapen my service because it depicts that military members only join out of greed and that is strictly not the case.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2016 10:24 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 10:24:02 -0400

I like the fact the used 3rd I.D. Rock of the Marne, speed and power!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2016 10:27 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 10:27:10 -0400

Glad they used 3rd I.D. Rock of the Marne, speed and power!!!

Response by SSG David Woody made Jun 4 at 2016 11:16 AM

SSG David Woody — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 11:16:28 -0400

This is a bullshit rendition of what we really did over there. I know... I was there. 2003-2005

Response by Dp Grafix made Jun 4 at 2016 12:06 PM

Dp Grafix — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:06:55 -0400

Published by someone who doesnt believe in our military integrity, nor has ever had to kill. I wouldnt expect close minded people to understand how a soldier develops ptsd over following orders to take afew to save hundreds of lives.

Response by PO2 Stephanie Sotka made Jun 4 at 2016 3:59 PM

PO2 Stephanie Sotka — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 15:59:54 -0400

Angry

Response by SSgt Christopher McClain made Jun 4 at 2016 7:11 PM

SSgt Christopher McClain — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 19:11:15 -0400

It's a true statement

Response by Cory Hefner made Jun 4 at 2016 7:17 PM

Cory Hefner — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 19:17:58 -0400

I am unsure of the context of this. The college statement throws me off. Many of us joined to serve our country and better ourselves. This picture makes it look like we have false valor or something along those lines. Doesn't sit well with me.

Response by LCpl Brian Kirby made Jun 4 at 2016 10:54 PM

LCpl Brian Kirby — Sat, 04 Jun 2016 22:54:05 -0400

I think the content is provoking to say the least. It seems absurd to absolve wrongdoing, and personal accountability like that, but I don't believe there is any service members (active or separated) who would use something as mundane as this to disassociate from their actions. That said, we have the freedom to disagree and say what we like. And I think there is something deeper at the core of this about how we see our military, and how divisive our current government is playing the people against each other.

Response by LCpl Christian Foy made Jun 5 at 2016 1:01 AM

LCpl Christian Foy — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 01:01:40 -0400

We all followed orders. We never questioned them. It's called a chain of command. In a combat zone shit happens. That's called collateral damage. It's about time politicians stay in politics

Response by LCpl Christian Foy made Jun 5 at 2016 1:04 AM

LCpl Christian Foy — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 01:04:06 -0400

and let the military do the job we were all trained to do.

Response by SP5 Michael Chambers made Jun 5 at 2016 9:51 AM

SP5 Michael Chambers — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 09:51:14 -0400

This cartoon is extremely offensive as it advocates a view based on ignorance. Our service men and women fought for thier country. That is truly something to be proud of. This cartoon purports that the responsibility for the war should rest with an individual. And that is in a sense true. But, follow the chain of command, and the chain off authority, and then when you get to the President of the United States and the Congress, try to remember who they work for: the American people. War is by its very nature unpleasant, but the responsibility doesn't rest with an individual soldier, but rather every voter who supported/or failed to oppose the decision to fight. That's why they are called the Armed "Services". Perhaps it would be more accurate for the cartoon to have been drawn showing the child asking his parents for an explanation.

Response by SSgt Chad Tillman made Jun 5 at 2016 11:58 PM

SSgt Chad Tillman — Sun, 05 Jun 2016 23:58:02 -0400

Cartoonist is free to create this crap, yes they are but it's obscene and abuse of the first amendment can be very destructive. Just because we can doesn't mean we should.

Response by LCpl John Clark IV made Jun 6 at 2016 7:32 AM

LCpl John Clark IV — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 07:32:20 -0400

Makes me mad that some people think that of me, however I'm pleased they feel safe enough to express an opinion like this. My enlistment was successful.

Response by PO3 Chad Kernell made Jun 6 at 2016 8:50 AM

PO3 Chad Kernell — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 08:50:42 -0400

I would tell them it's a huge misrepresentation and over simplification.
I would let them know it's disrespectful to all the veterans who died to give them freedom of speech.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2016 12:42 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 12:42:01 -0400

The argument for freedom of speech is 100% accurate. Let's also keep in mind the form in which the message was conveyed, via cartoon art. This method of propaganda has been used for centuries due to its effectiveness to provoke emotion. Reminds me of certain cartoons used in Germany. How many died?

Response by Sgt Joshua Lucier made Jun 6 at 2016 4:47 PM

Sgt Joshua Lucier — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:47:33 -0400

It's an interesting statement on ethics on the battlefield. There is an old quote "The love of money is the root of all evil". Politicians loving money and sending people is wrong. But so is loving money and going. Each of us is accountable for our actions whether they were ordered or not. Money is not a reason to blow someone's head off. Being a warrior is more than a job. It is a position where one has to be ready to sacrifice one's life for honor. There are too many mercenaries in the armed forces these days in my opinion. It's the recruiter's fault for selling on that point.

Response by SP5 Justin Bowers made Jun 6 at 2016 4:49 PM

SP5 Justin Bowers — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:49:40 -0400

I support it like to see more

Response by CN Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2016 5:15 PM

CN Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:15:35 -0400

Pure disrespect to the US military. I will defend anything that is directed towards the US military or anything that is against what the military does or stands for, #FREEDOM

Response by CPL Allen Norman made Jun 6 at 2016 6:27 PM

CPL Allen Norman — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 18:27:07 -0400

All you see is one part of the room, you don't know if there is a weapon in his other hand or what actually happened before before that. Its just a easy way to miss lead people, into think something different

Response by GySgt Jay Eye-am made Jun 6 at 2016 6:52 PM

GySgt Jay Eye-am — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 18:52:45 -0400

Reality at its highest level.

Response by SPC Cody Sammons made Jun 6 at 2016 8:16 PM

SPC Cody Sammons — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 20:16:39 -0400

Me personally, I don't think it amusing at all, but I would defend to the death this persons right to post bullshit like this

Response by FN Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2016 8:32 PM

FN Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 20:32:31 -0400

I way I see it sometimes you got to dance with the devil to go places in life. Personally I joined for the education opportunities and to deliver some payback to those that have harmed our nation. Originally I joined the Navy to get into be EOD (Naval Special Warfare Program). Unfortunately because of my vision I was dropped from trying out. Ended up being undesignated then picked up Damage Controlman and that's what I'm now. 10 months left until I get out. I'm grateful for the opportunity to serve. Makes me wonder how intense my life would of been if given the opportunity to try out for EOD and I made it. Life has a crazy way of alternating our destiny sometimes. Now my mind is set on Mechanical Engineering.

Response by Sgt Travis Halsey made Jun 6 at 2016 9:47 PM

Sgt Travis Halsey — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:47:02 -0400

Garbage.

Response by SA Jim Arnold made Jun 6 at 2016 10:26 PM

SA Jim Arnold — Mon, 06 Jun 2016 22:26:08 -0400

This is what turned me onto RALLYPOINT. I, however, disagree with the captioning within. I, since 6 years old, have always been determined to serve.....as I briefly did.

Response by CPT Alexander Grant made Jun 7 at 2016 12:05 AM

CPT Alexander Grant — Tue, 07 Jun 2016 00:05:22 -0400

What were you defending the military from? I don't see anything in this cartoon that is offensive to the military.
The point that this cartoon makes, is that our troops are being wielded like pawns for the sake of the military-industrial complex. Which is true, starting with Vietnam basically. Nowadays, they just start bombing people as soon as they feel like it.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2016 5:33 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 17:33:47 -0400

If the enemy were here they would do far worse than this meme depicts .

Response by SSG Delanda Hunt made Jun 8 at 2016 6:06 PM

SSG Delanda Hunt — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 18:06:42 -0400

lol, Grunt humor got to love it.

Response by LCpl Joshua Collier made Jun 8 at 2016 8:41 PM

LCpl Joshua Collier — Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:41:19 -0400

They can hate all they want. I'm now 24 with 2 kids a dog, my own house and a paid off car. I give back to this country. If I could go back to do it all again, I'd see if I could send a few more to hell.

Response by Brandon Skenandore made Jun 9 at 2016 4:41 AM

Brandon Skenandore — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 04:41:06 -0400

No, that is not and should never be an excuse for serving your country. This is a load of crap

Response by Josh Sebastian made Jun 9 at 2016 10:49 AM

Josh Sebastian — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 10:49:37 -0400

the fact of the matter is this bullshit will never stop unless we can band togather and make it stop untell then there will be allways some one killing some one

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 12:56 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:56:42 -0400

It's not exactly accurate but, civilians do die in war whether by accident or as a result of misjudgment on a soldiers part. And lets not forget some people literally join just for a pay check. Not everyone in a uniform is an outstanding person there are scum bags in the service. I am not a fool we service members aren't gods we do make mistakes from time to or follow a bad order. It happens and don't think these kinds of things should be covered up. Let's not forget we did bomb a hospital in Afghanistan last year. We can only admit it was bad a choice, try to make corrections, and hope we can do better.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 3:47 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:47:09 -0400

Although, it may be a bit insensitive, I am positive this was just a cartoon and it's unfortunate that the way I learned about this site was by seeing hype over this picture on Facebook. I'm gonna go invite some battles to join. Seems like a better way to find out about it. Better than arguing over a cartoon, no matter how controversial.

Response by SPC Gerardo Aguilar made Jun 9 at 2016 4:25 PM

SPC Gerardo Aguilar — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:25:19 -0400

...............

Response by Simon Kerns made Jun 9 at 2016 6:53 PM

Simon Kerns — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:53:21 -0400

I think sadly this is to true. often we see people do not to protect our country but for there own needs

Response by Cpl Kyle McKinney made Jun 9 at 2016 7:06 PM

Cpl Kyle McKinney — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:06:48 -0400

It's just ignorance. it just shows how informed they are. They think a politician just points and we shoot it up plain and simple.

Response by Andrew Gohl made Jun 9 at 2016 7:48 PM

Andrew Gohl — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 19:48:50 -0400

That it's wrong. Nobody want to leave a child homeless and parent less

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 9:34 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 21:34:53 -0400

This pissed off me and all my battles when we saw this shit! Truly shows how people feel about us and why we serve.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2016 11:46 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 23:46:25 -0400

I really wish civilians could see this conversation and collection of comments and realize that although it doesn't glorify and/or make the military look very good, we still support it because regardless of your personal reason to sign the dotted line, we all do what we do to defend the constitution which includes, obviously, our right to speech and the freedom of expressing opinions.

Response by Clifford Vaden made Jun 9 at 2016 11:59 PM

Clifford Vaden — Thu, 09 Jun 2016 23:59:45 -0400

Freedom is a tense subject for most, I may not like the message of this post but I respect it and the person who made it. my family has deep roots in the military, and while I haven't served myself, have seen what it can do to a person both physically and mentally, my brother is going into the military and I am very proud of him for that.

Response by Travis Chambers made Jun 10 at 2016 3:05 AM

Travis Chambers — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 03:05:15 -0400

Dose any one else notice that the flag on his arm is facing the wrong way

Response by James (Rick) Schwifty (Sanchez) made Jun 10 at 2016 12:15 PM

James (Rick) Schwifty (Sanchez) — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 12:15:11 -0400

People died for me to be able to say "Fuck the government." If I wanted to.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2016 1:02 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:02:03 -0400

This supposed to be a 3rd ID guy?

Response by Cpl Alex Uribe made Jun 10 at 2016 5:50 PM

Cpl Alex Uribe — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 17:50:33 -0400

You got to be kidding me....

Response by SN Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 10 at 2016 7:04 PM

SN Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:04:44 -0400

I'm complete fine with this, I don't understand why some people get butthurt about it.

Response by Jack McLeod made Jun 10 at 2016 8:00 PM

Jack McLeod — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 20:00:42 -0400

People really think we join for free college? I joined to serve and protect the country I love. The greatest country in the world. I'm willing to risk my life so people have the freedom to say stupid shit like this.

Response by Lucas Howes made Jun 10 at 2016 9:34 PM

Lucas Howes — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:34:36 -0400

Eh. Freedom of speech. The comic accomplishes nothing,fighting the comic accomplishes nothing. As long as their is opinion, there shall be a counter-opinion.

Response by Korey Nedza made Jun 10 at 2016 11:42 PM

Korey Nedza — Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:42:11 -0400

I'd respect that it's a valid commentary on an issue - it's not making fun of the soldier; it's adressing the fact that some soldiers had to do terrible things in the ME just because they were ordered to.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 3:44 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 03:44:13 -0400

For most this is true and the facts behind this photo I give respect but the idea of it is sad

Response by LCpl Austin Kastner made Jun 11 at 2016 5:22 AM

LCpl Austin Kastner — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 05:22:45 -0400

Seeing how he is probably in a foreign place, why would he talk with the kid anyway?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 8:07 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:07:14 -0400

Seems like maybe 50% (maybe more or less) of the soldiers today

Response by James (Rick) Schwifty (Sanchez) made Jun 11 at 2016 8:48 AM

James (Rick) Schwifty (Sanchez) — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:48:50 -0400

We are all pieces of shit, and I can prove it mathematically. Nothing we do matters, and our existence is a lie.

Response by SR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 3:09 PM

SR Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 15:09:30 -0400

I find this irritating. I joined to defend my country and loved ones in the war I see us slowly coming to. There's a lot of bad people out there foreign and domestic who want to see America fall. And that doesn't just mean the government. Most of them want all Americans gone. I know it doesn't relate to my job. But my chain of command told me to go kill these bad guys who are plotting to destroy my country I'm gonna do what I have to do. All the travel and benefits (college) are just a plus.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 11 at 2016 10:37 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 11 Jun 2016 22:37:12 -0400

I think that it angers us so much for two reasons 1: the attitude makes American soldiers look bad and that is a blow to our pride and 2: there's more truth in this than most would like to admit, between my battle buddies and my spouse being an Iraq and Afghanistan veteran; I have heard plenty of stories in which we are put in a difficult position of fighting and killing another person, and almost always, there's a soldier on the other side who's no different from us. And it's upsetting to make us out as bad people for something that many veterans and soldiers question themselves. It's a very similar situation to the debate on whether we should have bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And on a more random slightly nitpicky subject, I find it very tactless to give this soldier a specific unit insignia, which then insults that unit specifically and it also happens in the wrong location (3rd ID on his helmet)

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2016 3:42 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 03:42:39 -0400

If the civilians didn't knowingly let the enemy hide behind them...you know where that goes. It's war. Whether you wanted it to happen or not. It happened. Civilians are not the enemy, but when the harbor our enemy the lines get blury. War is not black and white anymore. We do what we have to do and we live with it every fucking day. Good or bad. Unless you have been there and have walked in our shoes, keep your mouth shut.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2016 5:39 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 05:39:41 -0400

How about this caption instead for the biased media "don't blame me, son, their 16 year old daughter killed 2 of my best friends with a dragonov sniper rifle from her bedroom window."

Response by PO3 Austin Chambers made Jun 12 at 2016 12:02 PM

PO3 Austin Chambers — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 12:02:06 -0400

We fight for the people to have freedom to express themselves, every single one, with any thought on any issue no matter right or wrong. These days honestly, people are too afraid to speak their mind because they're worried about offending someone else, or people take "offense" to something and try to sue. I don't support the idea of the cartoon, but I support the freedom behind it.

Response by Sgt Travis Marin made Jun 12 at 2016 8:07 PM

Sgt Travis Marin — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:07:32 -0400

Wow.... That's all I can really say.

Response by PO3 Justin Medley made Jun 12 at 2016 10:08 PM

PO3 Justin Medley — Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:08:04 -0400

Hostile intent lil buddy, I gained PID

Response by Aric Jay made Jun 13 at 2016 4:00 AM

Aric Jay — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 04:00:08 -0400

I'm currently just a potential recruit. But my family and friends have been and are in many different branches both active and reserves. When the recruiter asked what I wanted the military to do for me, I was confused. I mean, I thought the term used was serve. Serve does not implicate return. I told him I didn't think about that really because I thought you served to serve not get rewarded. The whole reasons I'm even debating between the national guard and the navy is because on one hand you are a civilian soldier serving even more so for the people of your immediate state, and the navy pushes a moral compass that drives personnel to ask is this the right thing to do or is it just orders? But even outside of military nothing is this simple. This cartoon is horrible if for no other reason than its lack of context. It is the artists right to draw it and the posters right to post and thank you those who have served for providing us the ability to excersize those rights. But I will fight and defend against its point and purpose any day. It's just not accurate. And if the only reason you join is to get a leg up in civilian life then I hope I don't have to serve with you if you still feel that way. No offense. But I believe in hard work and I believe in serving your country because it's the right thing to do not because it could benefit me some way. Fair weather people don't need to have my back, I'm too worried you'll leave when the shit hits the fan.

Response by CPL Cody Hackney made Jun 13 at 2016 8:41 AM

CPL Cody Hackney — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:41:14 -0400

Two to chest

Response by Devin Hennessy made Jun 13 at 2016 2:36 PM

Devin Hennessy — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 14:36:42 -0400

This isnt the way to present or represent our military service members. its rancid portrayal and should be tossed out like the garbage representation written on it.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 13 at 2016 3:13 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:13:35 -0400

Don't comment on the photo because then it's public and bitches get defensive. Instead message your so called friend and explain to him how that shit isn't cool and if he really was your friend he wouldn't have put bs like that up in the first place.

Response by PV2 Justin Roller made Jun 13 at 2016 9:17 PM

PV2 Justin Roller — Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:17:13 -0400

Honestly, I agree with it. I joined primarily to do my civic duty, but college was a nice bonus (that I've been screwed out of). You don't get to choose your assignments; you do as you're told, especially in a combat zone, or you face severe consequences.

Response by Cpl Marty Starch made Jun 14 at 2016 12:51 PM

Cpl Marty Starch — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:51:37 -0400

I would state that the majority of our nation's finest would take serious issue with disarming our own citizens. We are constantly preached to always do the right thing even when nobody is watching. I would think our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines would all concur, killing amcits standing up for their own rights is dead wrong. Time to overthrow the administration in charge.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2016 6:39 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:39:42 -0400

Should have greased the kid to. Just gonna grow up to to kill our kids

Response by Cpl Tyler Sechrest made Jun 14 at 2016 8:53 PM

Cpl Tyler Sechrest — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:53:01 -0400

Who joined just to get money and go to college..?

Response by AB Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2016 9:10 PM

AB Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:10:41 -0400

If u can't stand behind our troops, feel free to stand in front of them

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 14 at 2016 9:12 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:12:07 -0400

Must've been breathing when he took his shots from that grouping

Response by SGT Tony Clifford made Jun 15 at 2016 1:16 AM

SGT Tony Clifford — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:16:29 -0400

Who really cares? I've had members of my own family call me a baby killer. Civilians won't or can't understand. They told you in basic that there will be a huge disconnect. Why pay them any heed?

Response by Nick McConnell made Jun 15 at 2016 12:25 PM

Nick McConnell — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 12:25:39 -0400

Not something that would actually be said but.....

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 1:06 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 13:06:15 -0400

Completely off base. This is not a display of our military and never will it be.

Shame, Shame, Shame

Doesn't fit

Response by CPL Randy Michael made Jun 15 at 2016 10:38 PM

CPL Randy Michael — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:38:36 -0400

Media propaganda!

Response by Dylan LaFountain made Jun 15 at 2016 11:37 PM

Dylan LaFountain — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:37:40 -0400

except the Child runs at you with an ied, and you have no time to explain, and even if you did, the child would never believe you.

Response by Elijah Harper made Jun 15 at 2016 11:47 PM

Elijah Harper — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:47:15 -0400

i think whoever wrote it had good inteintions for searvicemen but over all ened this horribly

Response by SGT Jabriel Thomas made Jun 16 at 2016 5:34 AM

SGT Jabriel Thomas — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 05:34:51 -0400

Can't really say it bothers me. We were sent by politicians. There are times where people are killed in front of their kids and some people are here for money to go to college(which btw I don't see why people are so afraid to say the reason they if it wasn't for patriotic reasons. You're still doing the same job, your reasoning is moot.). That said it is something that does happen, but isn't something that describes what always happens. That is a little irritating. The Artist portrays this like the standard. That we don't care and completely disregard all life. After all things like RoE and EoF don't exist. I guess that can't all be shown in one picture though and that isn't what the artist is going for. That's why it doesn't really bother me. because I know it comes down to the situation and that this is just to show an outside view. Or maybe I'm wrong and they served, I really doubt it though. Regardless, naw it doesn't bother me. They are allowed to have their view. Whether inside looking out or vice versa, they are going to portray what they see and know and what they want other to see and know. What could happen? Some guy sees this and lobbies to have the military dismantled or something? It's just a comic strip.

Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Jun 16 at 2016 2:18 PM

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:18:10 -0400

1SG Private RallyPoint Member I think there are enough comments posted by others here that really describe how I feel about the cartoon - disgusted, embarrassed, and I usually try not to comment or even respond to these type of cartoons. Junk! I will go through and vote up of the comments that were spot on! I believe we have some very sharp and professional Leaders, Soldiers, Marines, Airman, Sailors, Coast Guard, Reservist, Guardsman, DOD Civilians, Civilian Supports, Civilian Recruiters, and Family Members that project the RIGHT image for what we are about and what we actually represent and do to serve our country in the right fashion day-in and day-out!

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2016 2:59 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:59:35 -0400

I joined for my country, not college

Response by Jesse Sims made Jun 16 at 2016 3:34 PM

Jesse Sims — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:34:58 -0400

this is really sad. But I can only assume that it is true, for some people at least.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2016 10:45 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:45:28 -0400

I personally don't believe the US military would be sent into someones house just to kill some kids parents.

Response by FN Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2016 8:36 PM

FN Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:36:28 -0400

Gotta say... it's not necessarily wrong.. there are people like this.. but it isn't all of us.. I'd scroll past it.. no point in trying to overthrow someone's opinion. They tend not to listen. We are here to serve.. that's the reason the military exists. To defend those who can't or choose not to do so themselves. It's sad when they don't appreciate it yes, but we aren't here to get praise. We are here to safeguard their ideals, their freedoms, even if it would happen to be this.

Response by PFC Travis Relken made Jun 18 at 2016 3:17 PM

PFC Travis Relken — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:17:43 -0400

I'm not sayin it's right all I'm saying is it's people's right to be that stupid. Agree or disagree is irrelevant blood has and will be spilled to protect people's right to say and do dumb shit.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2016 12:12 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:12:33 -0400

Some of those people will kill are murders!

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2016 9:15 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jun 2016 09:15:06 -0400

We all have a reason for joining the military but to suggest that all of us did it for money is bullshit

Response by Skittles Greenwalt made Jun 21 at 2016 2:58 AM

Skittles Greenwalt — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 02:58:45 -0400

I think this cartoon is absolute trash, sure they send you out there but yiu are a human an American soldier and you have a choice you job may be to defend your country but your himan obligation is to do the right think and tons of soldiers have made the right decision even if it is aginced orders and for that i solute you

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Jun 21 at 2016 1:24 PM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:24:22 -0400

I don't know... It looks like my cat puked its nasty hairball on the page

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Jun 21 at 2016 1:29 PM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 13:29:45 -0400

That is not how you do Military themed satire art you ignoramus artist who drew that.... this is how you do military themed political satire art

Response by Zachary Chambers made Jun 21 at 2016 4:51 PM

Zachary Chambers — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 16:51:08 -0400

Being that my father was an Army Ranger, and my uncle a Communications Specialist in the Air Force, I feel the need to say something. To my knowledge, that has never been anyone's reason for joining the military. It's their sense of honor, morality and the want to go and make something of themselves. It's the feeling of satisfaction from a hard days work. It's the uplifting feeling from seeing the happiness you fight so hard to give us here in America. It's the love you feel for your fellow countrymen and woman that drives us to answer our nations call. Finally gaining control of your life and being taught how. All these things and more are why our citizens join the military. We have something we love and want to protect. This land, and it's people, are worth fighting for. I salute you all for your service an un-ending loyalty to our country, our people and our freedom. This cartoon is just drawn up by some sour, weak and ungrateful person(s) who don't know how to take control of their own life and go make something of themselves. HOOAH!

Response by Sergiy Holmer made Jun 22 at 2016 5:40 AM

Sergiy Holmer — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 05:40:50 -0400

So messed up considering they put their life's in danger so that the civilians may live in peace up in their pretty little houses, getting benefits like college and money is only a part of it that's deserved for their service not an excuse to be used to justify soldiers killing, and since when do we kill cevilians I'm sorry but last time I checked we killed anyone who pointed a gun at us.

Response by Stephen Katterman made Jun 22 at 2016 6:24 PM

Stephen Katterman — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 18:24:09 -0400

In a lot of cases their are a good amount of service men/women who go in to get their college paid for. I believe we shouldn't make that the Number 1 reason of joining, we join to fight and support. In the Marine Corps we are expected to do above and beyond the call of duty, that goes for every branch in the D.O.D and Special Forces. If recruiters didn't buy the students by using "We pay College", then it would be less of a problem. What are your thoughts? It's nice that they are still willing to serve, however it's not for the right reasons, Money and College will only get YOU and everyone you are with killed because you are focused on a tangible object that could easily disappear. Having a REAL Emotional and Physical Support of your comrades will be a bigger benefit then all the Money and Education put together.

Response by 1LT Gerald O'Hare made Jun 23 at 2016 12:57 PM

1LT Gerald O'Hare — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:57:34 -0400

Clearly it is propaganda used to support a political agenda. I would call it for what it is and that is clumsy heavy handed propaganda. Much like any other racist or classist propaganda used for a political agenda.

Response by 1LT Gerald O'Hare made Jun 23 at 2016 12:58 PM

1LT Gerald O'Hare — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:58:51 -0400

Response by Cpl Kenneth Ledbetter made Jun 23 at 2016 2:43 PM

Cpl Kenneth Ledbetter — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:43:11 -0400

I'd say that you need to more selective in picking you friends.

Response by LCpl Rich Vail made Jun 23 at 2016 4:50 PM

LCpl Rich Vail — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:50:39 -0400

Those who think this crap is funny have never served, will never serve, nor have any idea what the military is about. Sadly, we still have to protect them. Once upon a time, when I was a young jarhead, I saw a banner:

"First to Go, Last To Know, We Will Defend Your Right To Be Misinformed, UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS."

That pretty much gives my sentiments to morons who post shit like the above...

Response by COL Dave Sims made Jun 23 at 2016 5:40 PM

COL Dave Sims — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:40:23 -0400

Point totally missed by this clown. It is not why you joined but how you serve ! During the Vietnam era many were drafted and served honorably - with distinction . This cartoon is just leftist propaganda by someone who I am certain never served - nor would.

Response by 2LT Kevin Gilsbach made Jun 23 at 2016 8:19 PM

2LT Kevin Gilsbach — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:19:18 -0400

What about our 2nd amendment rights, soon they will be taken away! Because of idiots who use guns to do unthinkable crimes! So why wouldn't the Gov. someday do the same of our 1st because of idiots like this. Sure opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, fine, and this illustrator is an ass, but is he doing our rights a favor, I think not!

Response by Nelson Aviles made Jun 23 at 2016 9:00 PM

Nelson Aviles — Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:00:50 -0400

Thats fucked up

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2016 1:56 AM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 01:56:23 -0400

Although it is politicians"say so" if we attack a nation of group, but we abide by rules of engagement that the left sweeps under the rug to demonize the Military in hopes of gaining citizens support to pull funding away from the Military for other campaigns.

Response by SSG Richard Gaytan made Jun 24 at 2016 12:25 PM

SSG Richard Gaytan — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 12:25:20 -0400

It's not the cartoon, look at the picture closely!!! A picture is worth a thousand words!!!!

Response by TSgt Clifton "Chip" Walker Cason made Jun 24 at 2016 11:44 PM

TSgt Clifton "Chip" Walker Cason — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:44:01 -0400

it's a disgrace to American Military everywhere.

Response by SFC Kenneth Kanach made Jun 27 at 2016 11:54 PM

SFC Kenneth Kanach — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 23:54:06 -0400

The person that had made the drawing and the person who posted it are welcome. Their freedoms brought to them by the ones who wrote the blank check up to and including their lives for the preservation of this great nation. When I see stuff like that I say to myself that their welcome but sometimes I will tell them they are welcome to their face...

Response by PVT Stephen Osenegg made Jun 29 at 2016 10:02 AM

PVT Stephen Osenegg — Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:02:49 -0400

The sad thing is, that is actually very accurate for the majority of new soldiers I've seen. I was enlisted briefly, and I hated it - not because of the military, but because while in basic & AIT that's pretty much what everyone around me was saying.
I joined, and went Airborne because I wanted to jump into combat, but seemingly none of my battle buddies felt the way I did.

Response by GySgt Carl Rumbolo made Jul 1 at 2016 12:50 PM

GySgt Carl Rumbolo — Fri, 01 Jul 2016 12:50:16 -0400

So here we go again - it's someone's opinion - a political cartoon making a particular point about someone's belief - glad it is out there, it means despite everything else, the basic freedoms the military ensures still remains.

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Jul 4 at 2016 6:46 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Mon, 04 Jul 2016 18:46:25 -0400

Yeah, this person who drew this cartoon OBVIOUSLY never served and doesn't have family who served...and SO WHAT! So what if you only joined to get school benefits!?!! At least we joined...VOLUNTARILY knowing that we can be send into a war zone and loose our lives...so what! It's more than the majority of folks in the US would do.....I'd like to punch this cartoonist in the nose.

Response by Eva Earls made Jul 18 at 2016 1:16 PM

Eva Earls — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:16:40 -0400

That is really upsetting.But I feel a comment give 's it to much credibility.It should just be tossed in the trash.Our soldiers are brave men.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 18 at 2016 1:19 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 18 Jul 2016 13:19:35 -0400

Tough question, everyone responds differently. Luckily, I don't have friends like this on my facebook.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2016 10:46 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:46:29 -0400

Well the first thing I disagree with is that fact that the soldier is speaking English to the kid. Second the level of English spoken is way more articulate than I heard from 3rd ID guys when I was with them in Afghanistan. third in a shoot out with enough blood to cover the room he only got blood on the bottom of his boots. Lastly if a soldier joins just for the college money not thinking there would be a shoot out. Is insane. Fifth. Who kicks in a door and shoots a unarmed guy on a couch, especially by himself. What is this hurt locker.

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Sep 2 at 2016 8:57 AM

1SG Patrick Sims — Fri, 02 Sep 2016 08:57:15 -0400

Raging on the military is an ongoing thing in many countries, not just the United States. I remembering a poem written in early part of World War Two about the British Army---It went something like this---Its Tommy this, and Tommy that, and kick him out the brute, but he's the savior of the nation when the guns begin to shoot.
I suppose every country has their progressives.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2016 8:36 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Dec 2016 08:36:32 -0500

It's very much in the spirit of Mark Twain's The War Prayer. It's a striking read, just as this is a striking image. http://warprayer.org/

The War Prayer, by Mark Twain

It was a time of great and exalting excitement. The country was up in arms, the war was on, in every breast burned the holy fire of patriotism; the drums were beating, the bands playing, the toy pistols popping, the bunched firecrackers hissing and spluttering; on every hand and far down the receding and fading spread of roofs and balconies a fluttering wilderness of flags flashed in the sun; daily the young volunteers marched down the wide...

Response by COL Dave Sims made Jan 12 at 2017 12:36 PM

COL Dave Sims — Thu, 12 Jan 2017 12:36:02 -0500

Reminiscence of Viet Nam ....totally left wing propaganda. Note that the so-called cartoonist did not sign this. He or she does not want to be identified. Maybe the guy on the couch needed to be dispatched. Who does the kid belong to ? So much bullshit here it is hard to sort through. If your "friend" posted this on Facebook - confront him. He may not be your friend.

Response by LCDR Bruce Cooley made Jan 19 at 2017 3:42 PM

LCDR Bruce Cooley — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:42:21 -0500

I'd say it was written, like most idiotic slams against the military, buy someone who has never served, and believes that "their impressions/knowledge" about what drives military members is accurate.

Response by SSG Ronald Lowe made Jan 19 at 2017 5:30 PM

SSG Ronald Lowe — Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:30:10 -0500

It doesn't show the RPG leaning against the wall, The AK-47 on the couch or the Markarov in the Combatants hand. Shit the kid prob has a grenade in his pocket.

Response by SGT Felicia King made Jan 26 at 2017 4:21 PM

SGT Felicia King — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 16:21:00 -0500

That dramatization is just a bit over exaggerated. I would also assume it drawn by someone that never served.

Response by SFC David Pratt made Jan 26 at 2017 5:11 PM

SFC David Pratt — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 17:11:18 -0500

I'm guessing the cartoon is a fake, lol. There are no blood and guts on the wall.

Response by GySgt Melissa Gravila made Jan 26 at 2017 10:38 PM

GySgt Melissa Gravila — Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:38:14 -0500

Wow, that's rough and wrong- to me, that implies that we are just blind sheeple without minds of our own who don't have an independant thought.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 31 at 2017 1:29 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:29:35 -0500

Why defend it- it's a 1st Amendment right - and if they are stupid enough to believe it, you want change their mind. Of course you could try Psyops and post the picture PO3 Balfour shows!

Response by CPL Leslie Andrews made Feb 1 at 2017 9:17 PM

CPL Leslie Andrews — Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:17:44 -0500

It's a cartoon, I'll leave it at that.

Response by LCpl Daniel Mcenespy made Feb 3 at 2017 12:32 AM

LCpl Daniel Mcenespy — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 00:32:05 -0500

Fuck that punk!!!! It's not a job, it's a calling. To stand for those who would but can't.

Response by CW3 Lysle Seelig made Feb 3 at 2017 2:12 PM

CW3 Lysle Seelig — Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:12:45 -0500

Something we used to say... "I don't like what you said/did but I will defend to the death your right to say/do it."
Just sayn'

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Feb 4 at 2017 12:41 PM

Lt Col Jim Coe — Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:41:19 -0500

I don't think that's the kind of response a soldier would give to a child in physical or emotional distress. Perhaps they would ignore the child if operational requirements made them move on, but I think most units have an SOP for encountering civilians in need of medical or social assistance. My bet is the soldier (or Marine) would try to get the child to the rear area where he could receive help from medical personnel or from the local population. Service members may join for money and educational benefits, but they don't leave their humanity at home when they deploy.

Response by SP5 Robert Ruck made Mar 27 at 2017 5:36 PM

SP5 Robert Ruck — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:36:10 -0400

It's a cartoon. It's one of the concepts we are fighting for, freedom of speech.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Mar 27 at 2017 9:13 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Mon, 27 Mar 2017 21:13:53 -0400

Sp4 Byron Skinner. The Ghost of Bill Mauldin. In the 1945 book by Mauldin "Up Front" there is a similar cartoon to this one. Willie and Joe, two disgruntled 11B's are walking past a German home that has bee bombed almost flat, only the front wall is standing. In the doorway is a middle aged german woman holding a cooking instrument that could be lethal, and Wille say: "Don't look at us we didn't do it."…At the end of WW II the rewriting of the rules (articles) of war places collective guilt on a society as a whole, all members of the military are responsible for the actions of a few. Note Mosul March 17th. It is clear that the Pentagon is putting out false and misleading information on the tragedy and the horrendous number of women and children killed. Todays latest from the Pentagon is that IED's had been planted in the walls of the building building the women and children and ISIS soldiers were firing missiles were being shot off the building rood at strike aircraft flying at 35,000 feet. On Friday a Pentagon spokesman said the Shiite were only firing machine guns from the roof at the aircraft at 35,000 ft.

Response by SGT Jabearul Haque made Dec 8 at 2017 2:13 AM

SGT Jabearul Haque — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:13:59 -0500

It's true, so what? I'm all for conquering the world and Imperialism, but I'm not going to be little bitch and try to justify this as "Good vs Evil" when it had nothing to do with it.

Response by CPL Jessi Downing made Dec 8 at 2017 9:55 AM

CPL Jessi Downing — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 09:55:50 -0500

I feel disturbed by this image and whenever I see that my friends post stuff like this, I just ignore it because that’s the freedom they have that we fought for and their thoughts do not concern me, people usually post stuff like this out of ignorance or because they want to start trouble

Response by SPC David Willis made Dec 8 at 2017 12:42 PM

SPC David Willis — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 12:42:19 -0500

Both ideals can be true. An overwhelming number of people who join do so for decent reasons. We are all made to do things we wouldn't ordinarily do, mistakes are made, and even when everything goes 100% right and we kill the bad guys don't forget they have people that love them as well.

That being said I am confused as to how the forensics of this picture work out. There are bloody footprints leaving the room, but a dirt print on the door. This indicates that he entered and cleared the room by himself through a tiny crack in the door while the man on the couch was sitting on the couch. I would think the dead man would have had plenty of time to react as the soldier was taking his time ducking under the door but evidently he didn't. Once the soldier made entry he no doubt cleared the room turned and shot the mad in cold blood, head on (see the rounds on the wall) with out justification. So perhaps in THIS case the soldiers a war criminal.

On a side note from close quarters the soldier missed like 10 times and sprayed all around him, so if I were his team leader I would recommend more rifle training.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Dec 8 at 2017 2:53 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Fri, 08 Dec 2017 14:53:09 -0500

Sore subject but it is a valid point

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2018 9:54 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Aug 2018 21:54:19 -0400

Coming from a cartoonist, whose country’s Police kills 4000 people every year, maybe he should make a similar meme with a BOPE Officer lighting up a favela, now let’s do some math, we were in Iraq for 8 years with 16000 non-combatants killed as a result of our actions, that’s about 2000 a year, so Brazilian police kills twice as many people a year compared to US Military in complicated environment of Afghanistan’s and Iraq’s of this world. Yea maybe he should not worry more about the local affairs. But this is still a good indicator of how much more “liberal” Brazilian liberals are.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2018 11:36 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 09 Sep 2018 23:36:48 -0400

As someone who study political science, and the history of totalitarian governments. It is necessary depending on some situation

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Sep 17 at 2018 11:52 PM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Mon, 17 Sep 2018 23:52:37 -0400

Obviously fake. No PT belt.....

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jun 28 at 2019 1:58 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 28 Jun 2019 13:58:42 -0400

It means we have no clue how to win the hearts and minds of the locals. It also means the whole village is now the enemy.

Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Sep 16 at 2019 10:02 AM

Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin — Mon, 16 Sep 2019 10:02:03 -0400

If any one of my friends on Facebook posted this to articulate their perception of the military, I would politely give them one chance to remove it before I de-friend them on Facebook.

Response by SPC Mark Marquette made Dec 31 at 2019 8:24 PM

SPC Mark Marquette — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 20:24:59 -0500

Well, that's a real quandary.... Yes, it IS very harsh against the military, implying no morality in members of the services; but, it is also extremely critical of the true, eternal cause: politicians. It COULD be read as being only about either; but, I think this brilliantly slays both.

Response by SPC Charles Sewell made May 6 at 2020 8:45 AM

SPC Charles Sewell — Wed, 06 May 2020 08:45:32 -0400

Terrible, this artist never served a day. Trash