I Have A Presentation Tomorrow With A Major Organization Regarding Veteran Obstacles And Hurdles. What Would You Tell Them?

SGT Aaron Miranda — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 17:06:42 -0500

Fellow Veterans And Military Members,

I have a presentation tomorrow with a major organization regarding veteran obstacles and hurdles. If it were you presenting, what would you say?

Please be constructive and do not be judgmental to your fellow veterans/ military members. Thank you.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2014 6:05 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 18:05:50 -0500

I would say the #1 issue for separating veterans is jobs, plain and simple. There are many aspects that contribute to this "obstacle," and there are many ways major organizations can help vets overcome this obstacle. Depends on what type of organization ... Does it, for example, have an office, team, or specialist designated to look for ways to hire veterans?

Response by SSG Jim Foreman made Nov 5 at 2014 8:58 PM

SSG Jim Foreman — Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:58:41 -0500

I would talk about employment. How in the military a troop had huge responsibilities, trusted with thousands if not millions of dollars worth of equipment and can work under stress. Any civilian employer should take advantage of that.

Response by Sgt Chris Loughridge made Nov 6 at 2014 12:18 PM

Sgt Chris Loughridge — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 12:18:28 -0500

I think one of the hurdles is how to convince prospective employers that military duties lead to skills useful in civilian jobs. Veterans have military-honed abilities like leadership, planning and team-building, but just cannot translate it in a way a company will be able to see those useful skills and how it will help their company or organization.

Response by SGT Aaron Miranda made Nov 6 at 2014 4:24 PM

SGT Aaron Miranda — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:24:56 -0500

Thank you everyone! I focused my presentation on employment, military bias, and barriers. It went well!

Response by LTC Charles Sherman made Nov 6 at 2014 5:30 PM

LTC Charles Sherman — Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:30:29 -0500

There's really quite a long list, to be honest. And picking out the "biggest obstacle" is hard to do. Sometimes it depends on the vet, and how he's coping or not with any issues he collected overseas, or how well he is or is not coping with the separation.

A very significant obstacle is finding work that utilizes the skills they have acquired, and which challenges them. It can be difficult for a civilian organization to translate military experience into a civilian context, and a lot of vets feel that the jobs they are offered are far less than they are capable of. The depth of military responsibilities doesn't always convert well into equivalent civilian levels of responsibility. So someone accustomed to supervising (in the broader military sense) 50 people can end up being offered a job that has no supervisory component. This contributes to a sense of dissatisfaction in vets, and unintentionally sends the message that one's military experience isn't valued or valuable.

Flexibility is another military experience that doesn't translate well. The fact that a vet doesn't have a specific skill set can be an obstacle to employment, when vets are confident that they can easily adjust their existing skill set to succeed and excel at that job. Again, this often leads to vets being offered jobs well below their abilities. While they will take these jobs...because a job is a job...the satisfaction is rarely enough to build loyalty to the company.

On the job, both of the things above along with the work ethic that most vets develop in their service, often contributes to the dissatisfaction. It's not unusual to hear from vets how lazy, slow, careless, and un-dedicated their coworkers are, making them wonder why they care or try so hard. I've had two different people tell me that they've actually been directed by their supervisors to slow down, or not to work as hard, because it makes the other employees look bad! That kind of thing reinforces the idea that the vet is working below his abilities, because the company either doesn't value or doesn't believe in his skills.

We could discuss solutions, but they are going to be different for each employer. But getting a good employee and then keeping him requires that companies recognize that military service develops a general set of skills that is challenging to quantify.

Response by Elizabeth Malkin made Nov 7 at 2014 12:09 PM

Elizabeth Malkin — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:09:57 -0500

SGT Aaron Miranda (I know this is a day late, but for future presentations) check out GEN George Casey Command Post about the 6 keys to a successful transition. There should be some great info for you here: https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/general-casey-6-keys-to-a-successful-transition

General Casey: 6 Keys to a Successful Transition | RallyPoint

I think there are 6 keys to a successful transition: 1) Don't sell yourselves short! Any time you start something new, you always feel a bit uncomfortable as you get the feel of the new environment and learn its acronyms. But the reality is that you already have the skills that CEOs are looking for. The Conference Board, a business intelligence company, surveyed a group of CEOs several years ago, asking them what skills they were looking for...

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Nov 8 at 2014 12:30 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 00:30:50 -0500

I wish I saw this earlier. How did everything go?

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Nov 8 at 2014 12:39 AM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Sat, 08 Nov 2014 00:39:21 -0500

My apologizes, I wish I would have saw this posting earlier! I hope all went well!