PVT Shaun Dingle 3145087 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div> 2017-12-05T01:49:00-05:00 PVT Shaun Dingle 3145087

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2017-12-05T01:49:00-05:00 2017-12-05T01:49:00-05:00 CW4 Lesli Sorensen 3145243

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, but they also look at general AND/OR specialized experience and look at it as a combination of the three to determine how qualified you are.

2017-12-05T05:32:37-05:00 2017-12-05T05:32:37-05:00 SPC Anthony Schepis 3145298

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Education, they don&#39;t care about rank. They are very strict and only want people with the necessary skills.

2017-12-05T05:58:42-05:00 2017-12-05T05:58:42-05:00 SPC Daniel Bowen 3145411

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>GS Pay scales are negotiable pending your experience. I was able to negotiate a higher pay based on my years in the Army and the schools or courses that support the job I was applying towards. Rank can help because that offers you leadership courses that one will not see as an E4 or E3. But, you have to be able to tactfully articulate how your rank/years/schools all directly support the job you&#39;re applying for, especially for that pay raise.

2017-12-05T06:41:05-05:00 2017-12-05T06:41:05-05:00 CW5 Jack Cardwell 3145419

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Most important think is Knowledge, Skills, and Ability (KSA) &quot; questions. This are job specific questions that are key to getting your application through the process. LTC I worked for had applications rejected two times. He had the skills and knowledge, and abilities but he did not show that in answering KSAs. I rewire this KSAs and he was selected for interview. ( and was hired) I retired as a GS supervisor and was on many selection boards . I knew many people who were qualified for the jobs but applications did no go through due to poorly written KSAs.

2017-12-05T06:47:31-05:00 2017-12-05T06:47:31-05:00 SGT David T. 3145647

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>First, your rank and salary as an E-6 shouldn&#39;t be on a civilian resume. You need to completely demilitarize your resume and put it all in civilian terms. Even within DOD there are many managers that have never served and do not understand the rank structure. So you cannot assume that they know what you are talking about. Going solely off of your rank as I do not know your experience, you are roughly equivalent to around the GS-5/7 level. You can use the Masters degree to meet the minimum qualification (specialized experience) for up to the GS-9 level if the job states you can use education in lieu of experience. However, that isn&#39;t the end of the story. There is a section that states how you&#39;ll be evaluated or something to that effect. In there you will see statements like &quot;knowledge of&quot;, &quot;skill in&quot; and similar language. Those are screen out elements. Make sure your work experience demonstrates those things. Make sure you talk to all of them. It is ok if they are spread out over the course of several positions.<br /><br />It all comes down to how you write it up. Don&#39;t lie, but if you focus on the concept behind the work and or the question they are asking you can make seemingly unrelated things fit.

2017-12-05T08:37:03-05:00 2017-12-05T08:37:03-05:00 MAJ Private RallyPoint Member 3145808

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Your resume and responses will make up your qualification not your enlisted grade or education level. Masters degree will guarantee you a 5 likely a 7 for related fields and possibly a 9. Relevant experience will qualify you for any job at any level. When applying you also need to select most qualified on all the questions they ask you and provide a written response as to why. If not you won&#39;t be evaluated for the position.

2017-12-05T09:26:46-05:00 2017-12-05T09:26:46-05:00 SGT Dave Tracy 3145821

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Education will matter far more than rank-which doesn&#39;t really count on the GS side--however, your experience behind the rank may make a difference. Although sometimes experience only counts for so much, but I digress.<br /> <br />Out of curiosity, as a GS civilian working on an MBA myself, why would you want to work for Uncle Sam as a civilian with an MBA? Is it a particular government job you really are interested in that can&#39;t be found in the private sector?<br /><br />I know that in my situation, as soon as that sheepskin is in my hot little hand, I&#39;ll leave my current Gov job so fast there&#39;ll be a SGT Tracy shaped hole in the front door! LOL!

2017-12-05T09:31:28-05:00 2017-12-05T09:31:28-05:00 Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth 3146095

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Being in the military will only get you a Veterans Pref, which means when jobs are only open to Federal employees you can still apply and git a little higher up on the pecking order. Your education and experience will open the doors for the particular job whatever that job will be. The graduate work may be the difference between a GS7-9-11 etc. Hope this helps.

2017-12-05T11:14:59-05:00 2017-12-05T11:14:59-05:00 CAPT Kevin B. 3146199

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Almost hitting the mark. Your eligibility will be based on your qualifications, period. Your rank gets mentioned in your previous employment piece. Formal KSAs (knowledge, skills, abilities) drills are not typically used for entry level. Depending on your status, you get either 5, 10, or 15 points Veterans preference. That range is based on no, some, or a higher level of disability. BTW preference does not overcome inability. You have to meet a minimum standard. Preference points are only good on initial employment, not chasing promotions. You can browse the various job &quot;series&quot; on the OPM web site. Consider series outside your previous path. If you are logistics centered, an entry level Contract Specialist, or better yet, professional development path can be a good option. That&#39;s where they hire a BS in at say GS-7 and have a noncompetitive career ladder in which you develop to a GS-12 over 3-4 years. If you&#39;re doing the MBA thing, make sure it has financial and contracting emphasis as you need certain things to go beyond that. BTW MBAs are a dime a dozen, so it&#39;s considered ordinary sunscreen. Most SMs think they&#39;re more qualified than they really are. Trigger puller skills do not equate to GS positions. So you have to read the requirements carefully. Make sure your resume doesn&#39;t say &quot;I work on stuff&quot; or &quot;I work on AN-Something-Mark 2&quot;. Active words like repair, transport, fabricate, with specific types of systems like, diesel engines, local area networks, or whatever. No MIL Speak in the second set. Take a writing course before you get out. It&#39;ll help doing your resumes and help you do your actual job. Overall exMILs are below marketplace average in writing skills. If you want GS-12, you better know how to write. If not, then consider the WG/WD/WL series stuff.

2017-12-05T11:52:45-05:00 2017-12-05T11:52:45-05:00 SGT Joseph Gunderson 3148062

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Both will play a part. Contrary to some of the comments that I have seen, your rank is part of your federal resume. Ensure that you use the correct format so that everything is taken into consideration properly and you have the best chance of getting hired.

2017-12-05T22:55:39-05:00 2017-12-05T22:55:39-05:00 LTC John Griscom 3149194

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Agree with CAPT Ball about the MBA if it&#39;s a general area. It&#39;s better to have a Masters in a specific area; Emergency Management is one of the areas to get into. You will get at least five points based on your veterans status.<br />Civil service is not concerned about rank, but your KSAs are important.

2017-12-06T10:42:29-05:00 2017-12-06T10:42:29-05:00 Lt Col Jim Coe 3149311

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you&#39;re applying for a civil service job, your salary is directly linked to the position. Salary by grade and step and location is public record, much like military pay charts. There may be some exceptions for Guard or Reserve positions, but for all other government civilians it&#39;s very straight forward. However, there is some wiggle room:<br />1. If you are applying for a job listed as &quot;GS-11/12/13&quot; for example, it&#39;s a &quot;upward mobility&quot; position. If it&#39;s open to current employees and veterans, it provides you and the hiring manager some flexibility. The intent is to hire in a person as a GS11 with certain minimum qualifications, provide training and education so they can advance their knowledge, skills, and abilities to reach the minimum qualifications for the next higher grade, GS-12, and promote them. The hiring manager may consider employees who are already GS11 to start into the position at GS11 or GS12 and so on. I think the hiring manager might have authority to hire a veteran above GS11 if the veteran meets the minimum knowledge, skills, abilities, education, and experience requirements. Read job announcement carefully.<br />2. The step in the grade you are hired in may be negotiable. You don&#39;t have to start as a GS11/step 1 in the above example. If your qualification are such that you exceed the minimum hiring requirements, you can ask the hiring manager if you can start at a higher step, i.e., a higher salary. Best case for this can be made if you were doing similar work in the military or private sector for a salary above GS11-01 and have documented proof. The hiring manager may have to do a little paperwork with the HR department or his/her boss, but it&#39;s do-able. I hired in above GS14 step 1 because I asked and gave my prospective boss my private sector pay stubs.

2017-12-06T11:18:06-05:00 2017-12-06T11:18:06-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 3149402

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would say it all depends on what position you are applying for and the requirements for that position.

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