I failed weight and tape but I pass my pt test with 280 and up every time. What will happen to me?

2019-03-22T16:04:02-04:00

Response by LTC Kevin B. made Mar 22 at 2019 6:20 PM

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You will likely be flagged and put on the weight control program. If you don't show progress towards meeting the body fat standards, you will likely be chaptered out of the Army.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 6:47 PM

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Unfortunately it’s not all about passing PT, but professional appearance in uniform.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 7:04 PM

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You'll be flagged, just loose the weight and you'll be fine.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Mar 22 at 2019 7:34 PM

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If you do not meet weight you will be given the appropriate opportunities and eventually seperated from service.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Mar 22 at 2019 8:11 PM

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I was 6 foot 5 inches back in the day and could only weigh about 223-225 while I served. So you must easily be between 7 to 8 feet tall.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 8:54 PM

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Flagged, counseled, etc., then:
COA 1. You lose body fat (weight) and make progress in the ABCP until you meet the standard, then the flag will be removed.
COA2. You fail to make progress in the ABCP, and you will be separated.
You should be aware of this if you failed to meet the ABCP, because the mandatory counseling should have covered what actions will, and may, take place.
The references are AR 600-9 Army ABCP, and AR 635-200 Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Mar 22 at 2019 9:24 PM

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Table weight screening and if needed TAPE is part of a record APFT.... for a record APFT they are a set, passing only one is immaterial.

Bottom line, if you fail either APFT or TAPE, you will be counseled, and entered into the appropriate assistance program. If you work with the trainers and dietitians to succeed all will be in the past and things more on.
If you fail, you will be processed for separation based on clar, written standards and guidance.

Response by SSG Lyle O'Rorke made Mar 22 at 2019 9:33 PM

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There are plenty of great answers listed. You should have been counseled already. This is one of those policies I and I know many have issues with but it is the standard that is to be enforced.

I would pass my APFT with a 270 easy but was always like 1-5lbs over my max weight on the chart. I would tape in standard but close. I’m not fat just the way my build is never helped with the taping. Personally if you can do the job pass the physical and don’t look like a slob I don’t see the point of the weight and tape standard.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Mar 22 at 2019 10:37 PM

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AR 600-9 has the answer you’re looking for!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 11:14 PM

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You'll be flagged for height and weight, but not APFT. At least you're relatively fit enough to work it off. The APFT hasn't been a good standard of fitness since they adjusted it (made it significantly easier to score high) in early 2000. When I joined a max score was 82 pushups, 92 sit-ups, and 11:54 run.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 22 at 2019 11:19 PM

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They’ll probably enter you into the ABC program until you lose the weight.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Mar 23 at 2019 7:51 AM

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You passed the APFT but failed the height and weight standard. This will be recorded and your unit training NCO will note it. Your section sergeant or platoon sergeant should initiate a counseling for you outlining what is expected in terms of improvement and what will happen should you not improve. You will also be enrolled in the Army's ABCP program. You should at this point be flagged in the system meaning that no positive actions can be or will be taken or initiated. No leave, no promotions or awards, no schools.

You then begin weight training and must show progress in that program. 3 months of no progress and a separation proceeding can be initiated at any times. It is really up to the command authority as to how stringent they want to be. IF/WHEN you manage to fall within specified guidelines, even if it is by one pound then the flag can be lifted and things reset.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2019 8:59 AM

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You can fail weight. But if you do you can still pass tape you will be fine. I'm a big guy and am 26 lbs over weight. However, I pass tape everytime and score 290's and above. If its your neck size try building your neck muscle. If its your waist then just watching what you eat and adding a little more cardio during the week will help you alot.

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Mar 23 at 2019 11:13 AM

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I recommend liposuction. I did that once, stellar PT Scott, working my ass off at gym, watching my diet, but fat wouldn't come off mid section. Best 5 grand I ever spent.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2021 2:16 PM

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Check out keto diet. High fat, no carbs. Our son recently lost 140 lbs in a year and change, but you should get nutritional advice throughout the process. He's big boned and around 74 in. but eating habits got him in high 300 range. He's around 240 now, works out and runs. Check with medical first, per any regs. If you can show progress and are viewed as a good soldier, your COC may be supportive. It's appearance they focus on, and secondarily readiness/reporting. Only you know your true endurance level, for situations requiring it. APFT is just a standardized test. If they're looking for a way to chapter you, and you truly want to stay, it's on you to make it happen. Army is pretty big on "programs" to remediate issues, for those worth saving. Sounds like you could get by with some more road and gym time. Dry sauna after a run burns a lot, but hydrate as well. Grapefruit juice. Watch the snacks. Find a pool and do laps. Good luck.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made May 16 at 2021 5:08 PM

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What was your percentage? Your age?

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made May 17 at 2021 1:17 PM

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Start working those neck muscles.