I cannot use RMAs for training, and do not want to use an RST. Is there another path toward getting "paid" beyond a TPU's MUTA limit of 48?

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:25:57 -0400

I would like to attend a marksmanship match and get paid for it as a TPU.

Per 350-66 such competitions are considered training. I have be able to to this in the past for an RST (but since RST's are in replace of MUTA's and I will be going to all 48 of my MUTA's I can't use an RST).

Now, per 140-1 RMA's canNOT be used for "training". So that nixes an RMA. I'm trying to get my cake and eat it too. Using an RST and skipping a MUTA doesn't get me a net increase of funds in my pocket.

I guess I am looking for an additional funding source/regulation for training in excess of AT and MUTA's.

Is it out there?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2023 7:45 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Jun 2023 19:45:36 -0400

Possibly ADT orders?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2023 8:49 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Jun 2023 20:49:27 -0400

AT orders if you haven’t used all your 29 days this FY. If you have, ADT orders.

Response by CSM William Everroad made Jun 23 at 2023 9:11 AM

CSM William Everroad — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:11:52 -0400

CPT Private RallyPoint Member, MAJ Private RallyPoint Member and MSG Private RallyPoint Member are on the right track. The unit should be using ADT for events like this.

I am not sure why anyone would use an RST. RSTs are for making up regularly scheduled training. ADT is for everything else (hence the "additional" part).

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2023 3:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 15:40:04 -0400

Thanks all.

I did use a pathway of ADT at the outset of COVID. All in person AT's were canceled in 2020 and higher levels chain of command were essentially approving any good idea for an AT event service members wanted to attend. Mine was getting AT orders cut for the Navy's Pacific West Fleet match for a week of shooting. I was getting paid the days to attend, and had to handle all costs and logistics toward the event on my own. The match itself was also canceled as a result of COVID so it was a bummer, but I've been on the hunt to get this sort of thing to happen again.

We have standing missions on rotation that use up our AT days. I've already done my days, and then there are two other missions/exercises that are in constant need of bodies warming seats. All of those would have to be met first, which is never going to happen.