How would you handle a situation with a single Soldier with a child who can't get morning day care (and requests to do afternoon PT)? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I had a divorced Soldier who redeployed with the unit, but stated that her daycare provider would not take the child until 0630. It is a DoD daycare and located near her government housing in the same neighborhood. Her child is under 8 years old and she is overseas. The Soldier PT is average and her last APFT is 250, however, she is the second highest ranking enlisted next to the Detachment Sergeant and does come close on making the minimum on her run time. She is a strong leader and truly cares for the Soldiers and is respected by the Soldiers. Sat, 09 Jan 2016 01:56:35 -0500 How would you handle a situation with a single Soldier with a child who can't get morning day care (and requests to do afternoon PT)? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I had a divorced Soldier who redeployed with the unit, but stated that her daycare provider would not take the child until 0630. It is a DoD daycare and located near her government housing in the same neighborhood. Her child is under 8 years old and she is overseas. The Soldier PT is average and her last APFT is 250, however, she is the second highest ranking enlisted next to the Detachment Sergeant and does come close on making the minimum on her run time. She is a strong leader and truly cares for the Soldiers and is respected by the Soldiers. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 01:56:35 -0500 2016-01-09T01:56:35-05:00 Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Jan 9 at 2016 2:10 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224552&urlhash=1224552 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What are her alternatives, really? Capt Seid Waddell Sat, 09 Jan 2016 02:10:33 -0500 2016-01-09T02:10:33-05:00 Response by SFC Pete Kain made Jan 9 at 2016 2:14 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224554&urlhash=1224554 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have a hang over, I too want to do P.T. in the afternoon.<br />Can't believe this a real question. SFC Pete Kain Sat, 09 Jan 2016 02:14:20 -0500 2016-01-09T02:14:20-05:00 Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jan 9 at 2016 3:09 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224584&urlhash=1224584 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I remember the days when nurses that got married didn&#39;t get promoted. So a single parent needs to take care of her kid. Happens all the time to guys as well. If you&#39;re a Hard A, that kills morale and forces good people out. Everyone isn&#39;t from the same cookie cutter. I&#39;d expect a good Command to figure out how to deal with this simple issue which, if an annoyance, tells me the CoC doesn&#39;t have a grip. The bigger issue is deployability. Make sure she&#39;s good to go and if not, follow whatever the current regs and guidance are. Always remember the objective: keep good people moving forward. CAPT Kevin B. Sat, 09 Jan 2016 03:09:24 -0500 2016-01-09T03:09:24-05:00 Response by COL Charles Williams made Jan 9 at 2016 3:13 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224587&urlhash=1224587 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I thought this was exactly why we have family care plans, or did, which are required... She needs to figure this out, not ask you for accommodations. <br /><br />If you allow this Soldier to do what is best for them individually <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="191907" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/191907-68w-healthcare-specialist-combat-medic">MSG Private RallyPoint Member</a> then what will someone ask for next? <br /><br />I am certainly not an expert, but I served in the Army on the line a few times, as a Garrison Commander for 37 months (child care was one of my areas as you know), and my wife has worked as CDC director since 2003... So, I know there many options available for Soldiers and families; more now than ever. <br /><br />I think she needs to find a different daycare provider... <br /><br />We don't allow Joe to do stuff like this.. do we? COL Charles Williams Sat, 09 Jan 2016 03:13:52 -0500 2016-01-09T03:13:52-05:00 Response by PO1 John Miller made Jan 9 at 2016 3:26 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224601&urlhash=1224601 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />For some reason I can't read your entire post. It cuts off at "Minimum on her run time. Sh..." But it looks like she's asking to do PT in the afternoon? I would work with her to find alternative childcare first. PT'ing with the unit isn't just about PT, it's also about teamwork and getting to know your fellow Soldiers/them getting to know you. If that isn't an option then grant her request. But that's just my 2 cents. PO1 John Miller Sat, 09 Jan 2016 03:26:02 -0500 2016-01-09T03:26:02-05:00 Response by MSgt Devon Saunders made Jan 9 at 2016 7:08 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224678&urlhash=1224678 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If she asking to do PT in the afternoon, I don't see a problem with that. She isn't trying to skip out, just do during a different part of the day. MSgt Devon Saunders Sat, 09 Jan 2016 07:08:32 -0500 2016-01-09T07:08:32-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2016 8:18 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224702&urlhash=1224702 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I agree you have to look at a case by case basis. In my detachment, everyone has a different schedule. We are small enough that I may not see a given person for PT for a good month because of it. I think your point about subtle challenges and command climate are spot on. I often have Soldiers that get left to PT own their own, not by preference, simply because that's sometimes the nature of the beast. The challenge is to ensure that no one is always left to their own and to ensure checks and ballancw. Since she is an NCO, I would expect that she can be trusted for that. I can't always PT with my folks, but they know that I may surprise them with a diagnostics at anytime. And, they will be held accountable for their results. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 08:18:20 -0500 2016-01-09T08:18:20-05:00 Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2016 8:47 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224724&urlhash=1224724 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>A good commander would come up with a solution to benefit both the Soldier and the command. LTC Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 08:47:21 -0500 2016-01-09T08:47:21-05:00 Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Jan 9 at 2016 10:09 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224810&urlhash=1224810 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The poll does not have an answer I feel is appropriate for me, so I choose not to vote.<br />For me, missing scheduled training was viewed in two forms Temp and longer lasting.<br />Regardless of reason, gender, self induced (pregnancy, child, injury, or not of their making, injury, illness, called as a witness, named care taker for a family member)<br />If Temp then any reasonable accommodations that I could make were. If deemed long term, child care with no family care plan, drug induced long term care, physical issues... then separation was most often considered. SGM Erik Marquez Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:09:50 -0500 2016-01-09T10:09:50-05:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2016 10:42 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1224857&urlhash=1224857 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would temporarily accommodate afternoon supervised PRT (she would be in charge of remedial/supplemental PRT), review her family care plan and give her a timeline no more than 30 days to find a fix for the<br />Issue ( find different provider if possible), and involve the command to address the CDC issue because if there is more people with the same problem then it needs fixed. If she's the only one with the issue then she needs to update her family care plan and fix it within 30 days to reflect she cannot support a short term plan. If she is a leader she needs to lead her soldiers, PRT included. We can help find a solution and assist with the process, but at the end of the day, if the soldier PCS or is re assigned that will become another units problem and the issue will continue. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 10:42:11 -0500 2016-01-09T10:42:11-05:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2016 12:17 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225010&urlhash=1225010 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you were able to influence the daycare facility to change the hours to accommodate this Soldier, I bet you dimes to dollars that her run time would go through the roof. It is simple, people perform better out of loyalty and not wanting to let someone down than for any other reason. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 12:17:41 -0500 2016-01-09T12:17:41-05:00 Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jan 9 at 2016 1:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225168&urlhash=1225168 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wonder what the other single soldiers with children do? MAJ Ken Landgren Sat, 09 Jan 2016 13:46:50 -0500 2016-01-09T13:46:50-05:00 Response by SSG Kelly Ferguson made Jan 9 at 2016 2:07 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225207&urlhash=1225207 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not a problem let him/her lead remedial PT. it will show SSG Kelly Ferguson Sat, 09 Jan 2016 14:07:25 -0500 2016-01-09T14:07:25-05:00 Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jan 9 at 2016 3:35 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225345&urlhash=1225345 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is another continuation of NOT treating all military evenly. Read this and realize the duration of a missile boat is about three months or so. How do you staff the submarine:<br /><br />Earlier this month Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced his authorization to increase maternity leave for Sailors and Marines. Female service members now have 18 weeks of maternity leave extended from the previous six-week limit. The new mothers are also allowed to use the additional leave at any time up to one year after their child is born. The new policy applies to any woman who has taken convalescent leave for giving birth since Jan. 1, according to the official announcement in a July 2 article written by the Office of the Chief of Information. <br /><br />It takes years to train most submarine sailors that serve on nuclear submarines, that women now serve on. Where will this accommodation end? As I have said previously, we could not "man" our military without the females that choose to serve our country, but some consideration has to be given as to the impact on the venues they serve at. MCPO Roger Collins Sat, 09 Jan 2016 15:35:42 -0500 2016-01-09T15:35:42-05:00 Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Jan 9 at 2016 10:24 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225928&urlhash=1225928 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes, of course you could take it upon yourself to grant her request. The question you have to ask yourself is what about the next request that comes to you? And what effect will turning down the next request have on unit cohesion and morale? I would suggest that you consider your choices carefully, and if necessary, consult your chain of command. Cpl Rc Layne Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:24:13 -0500 2016-01-09T22:24:13-05:00 Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2016 10:50 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225966&urlhash=1225966 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Where I can, I try to make a reasonable accommodation for a situation like this.<br />My solution would be to have her run the remedial running program.<br />It would be a win - win. 1SG Private RallyPoint Member Sat, 09 Jan 2016 22:50:56 -0500 2016-01-09T22:50:56-05:00 Response by COL Jon Thompson made Jan 9 at 2016 11:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1225991&urlhash=1225991 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It should be a commander's call. A couple of issues I see are first, as a senior NCO, she should be doing PT with her Soldiers since leaders lead by example. But PT is only part of her duties and if she is a strong leader then having her perform her main duties is probably more important. That brings me to my second issue. How ready is she to deploy? It looks like you are in Germany and as a single parent, I imagine she does not have any family close by. Does she have a valid family care plan? Again, that is the commander's issue. But it does not make much difference if she is a strong leader but cannot deploy with her Soldiers. COL Jon Thompson Sat, 09 Jan 2016 23:05:00 -0500 2016-01-09T23:05:00-05:00 Response by MSG Jamie Coleman made Jan 25 at 2016 11:04 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1257364&urlhash=1257364 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>SFC (P) Sutherland, the most important thing to do is Counsel this Soldier and document it, and then come up with a plan that will ensure that this Soldier is in compliance with Army policy. I say this because one day this Soldier will more than likely be faced with the same problem, she needs to understand the importance of having a Workable Family Care Plan and she needs to understand what can happen if that family care plan is not workable. You want to help the Soldier, but at the same time you have to protect her by doing the right thing. MSG Jamie Coleman Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:04:03 -0500 2016-01-25T11:04:03-05:00 Response by 1stSgt Eugene Harless made Feb 26 at 2016 8:39 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-would-you-handle-a-situation-with-a-single-soldier-with-a-child-who-can-t-get-morning-day-care-and-requests-to-do-afternoon-pt?n=1333250&urlhash=1333250 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That's a hard decision... you want to take care of your soldier but there is an issue of them being there when the unit is there. If the situation is short term I would say a solution would be to put her in charge of the remedial PT program (that is if the unit has one that is over lunch or after hours). <br /> She should also be trying to rectify her child care situation. No matter what the reason her subordinates are going to notice her absence. 1stSgt Eugene Harless Fri, 26 Feb 2016 08:39:03 -0500 2016-02-26T08:39:03-05:00 2016-01-09T01:56:35-05:00