How to get out of Recruiting Orders?

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:31:35 -0500

I'm a SGT currently in ALC and I just came down on recruiting orders. I have 0 SSG KD time and want to be KD complete before I do a broadening assignment. ETS date is JAN 2023. What are my options

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Feb 9 at 2021 5:57 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:57:35 -0500

Unless you have a really, really good reason to defer recruiting, you're not likely getting out of it.

https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/Assignment%20Deletions,%20Deferments,%20Early%20Arrival,%20and%20Reporting%20Failures%20to%20Gain

There's a PDF with a list of codes for deferments.

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2021 7:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 19:52:42 -0500

You have to submit a packet and do a commanders interview and an interview with a medical doctor. If that all goes well, you’ll be going.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2021 8:06 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 20:06:24 -0500

You sign a declination statement and you're leaving the Army. If you're not trying to dodge it, it doesn't get more dodging it than that.

As for you concern that you will be years behind your peers, you will not. You'll promote to SSG, come off recruiting and shortly after that pin SFC around the same time as your peers who went to recruiting later.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2021 9:15 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 21:15:22 -0500

Find anything higher priority than recruiting, not sure what that is or if there is anything. I know there is nothing you can do to get out of DS, however SFAB got me out of recruiting orders the Friday before I left that Sunday for school.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Feb 9 at 2021 10:04 PM

SSgt Christophe Murphy — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:04:10 -0500

Unless you plan on leaving the Military you have limited options. Once a Special Duty Assignment get their claws in you and cut tentative orders you are pretty much forced into a corner. Either you execute orders as written or get out. Your perspective of not being competitive isn't 100% realistic though. You won't be the first Military member tagged for recruiting when you wanted to be elsewhere. You'll be fine and promote on schedule if not sooner.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Feb 9 at 2021 10:47 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Tue, 09 Feb 2021 22:47:29 -0500

Report while wearing a Round Brown! SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2021 9:15 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 09:15:54 -0500

I u see stand how you feel. Many have felt that way before. What I have found is, you’ll still be competitive if not promote faster than your peers. I’d hate for you to lose your opportunities because you think you won’t be competitive for future promotions.

A little Recruiter humor- but also true. You’ll understand soon. Just take the orders, do your best, and be better for it. Best of luck!

Response by SFC Melvin Brandenburg made Feb 10 at 2021 2:30 PM

SFC Melvin Brandenburg — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 14:30:49 -0500

I say do the duty, be good at it, and move on.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2021 10:14 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 22:14:36 -0500

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member I know it’s sucks to hear, but big Army doesn’t really care about your KD time (as much as they say they do). I too went to Usarec as a E5, picked up and spent my first 2 years as an E6 with no KD time. Guys I went to ALC with picked up E7 at the first opportunity, so yes you will be behind some of your peers. However I came out of usarec and back to the line as one of the senior E6s in my company. Almost immediately I got put into a PSG position, and spent the next 2 years making my KD time up (and getting #1 NCOERs due to my position).

Now I’m in the unfortunate position of being likely to end up high on the OML for E7 this year, and I just came down on drill orders. Again my KD time will take a back seat to the needs of the Army.

While it sucks on a personal level, you should look at it holistically. Most of us infantrymen don’t want to do Tradoc jobs, but we are the largest MOS, and therefore more likely to come down on those orders.

On the other hand Usarec is currently over strength, so if you call and talk to Branch, they may be able to help you out.

If you need any other advice, feel free to reach out.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 12 at 2021 5:01 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:01:29 -0500

You really cant. Recruiting duty, when done well is a ticket to E7 and a Platoon Sergeant assignment. You would be following 10s of thousands before you. You will likely surpass your current peer group.

Response by LTC Charles T Dalbec made May 7 at 2021 6:57 PM

LTC Charles T Dalbec — Fri, 07 May 2021 18:57:19 -0400

PLEASE. Do your job and don’t worry about getting out of anything.