How many of us are gray area retired reserve waiting for Congress to give us retirement credit for service after 9-11? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was mobilized in Nov 2001 and demobilized in May 2004. Anybody mobilized from January 2008 onwards is entitled for a 6-month reduction in retirement age for every six months of creditable service. <br />[Update] The requirement was that only periods of service with a Federal fiscal year (FY) were creditable.<br />Since NDAA 2016 was passed all service is creditable regardless of whether it is in the same FY or not.<br />All of us mobilized earlier than that get no such credit. Several of us have contacted congress members and lobbying organizations to advocate are position. I know MOAA has included grandfathering all post 9-11 mobilized service as part of their legislative goals. I am not aware of any other efforts.<br />FYI <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="138758" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/138758-col-mikel-j-burroughs">COL Mikel J. Burroughs</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="419721" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/419721-maj-william-w-bill-price">Maj William W. &#39;Bill&#39; Price</a> Capt Christopher Mueller <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="668456" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/668456-capt-seid-waddell">Capt Seid Waddell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="347395" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/347395-351l-counterintelligence-technician">CW5 Private RallyPoint Member</a> SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="308468" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/308468-sgm-david-w-carr-lom-dmsm-mp-sgt">SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="106303" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/106303-88m-motor-transport-operator">SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="22186" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/22186-1w0x1-weather">SSgt Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="768589" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/768589-sp5-mark-kuzinski">SP5 Mark Kuzinski</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="786700" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/786700-sgt-john-mac-mcconnell">SGT John &quot; Mac &quot; McConnell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="807443" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/807443-sgt-robert-george">SGT Robert George</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="997892" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/997892-sp5-robert-ruck">SP5 Robert Ruck</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1006181" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1006181-scpo-morris-ramsey">SCPO Morris Ramsey</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="919980" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/919980-cpl-eric-escasio">CPL Eric Escasio</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="567961" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/567961-11b-infantryman">SPC Private RallyPoint Member</a> SrA Christopher Wright <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="608177" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/608177-spc-margaret-higgins">SPC Margaret Higgins</a> Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:29:17 -0500 How many of us are gray area retired reserve waiting for Congress to give us retirement credit for service after 9-11? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was mobilized in Nov 2001 and demobilized in May 2004. Anybody mobilized from January 2008 onwards is entitled for a 6-month reduction in retirement age for every six months of creditable service. <br />[Update] The requirement was that only periods of service with a Federal fiscal year (FY) were creditable.<br />Since NDAA 2016 was passed all service is creditable regardless of whether it is in the same FY or not.<br />All of us mobilized earlier than that get no such credit. Several of us have contacted congress members and lobbying organizations to advocate are position. I know MOAA has included grandfathering all post 9-11 mobilized service as part of their legislative goals. I am not aware of any other efforts.<br />FYI <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="138758" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/138758-col-mikel-j-burroughs">COL Mikel J. Burroughs</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="419721" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/419721-maj-william-w-bill-price">Maj William W. &#39;Bill&#39; Price</a> Capt Christopher Mueller <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="668456" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/668456-capt-seid-waddell">Capt Seid Waddell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="347395" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/347395-351l-counterintelligence-technician">CW5 Private RallyPoint Member</a> SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="308468" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/308468-sgm-david-w-carr-lom-dmsm-mp-sgt">SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="106303" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/106303-88m-motor-transport-operator">SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="22186" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/22186-1w0x1-weather">SSgt Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="768589" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/768589-sp5-mark-kuzinski">SP5 Mark Kuzinski</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="786700" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/786700-sgt-john-mac-mcconnell">SGT John &quot; Mac &quot; McConnell</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="807443" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/807443-sgt-robert-george">SGT Robert George</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="997892" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/997892-sp5-robert-ruck">SP5 Robert Ruck</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1006181" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1006181-scpo-morris-ramsey">SCPO Morris Ramsey</a><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="919980" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/919980-cpl-eric-escasio">CPL Eric Escasio</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="567961" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/567961-11b-infantryman">SPC Private RallyPoint Member</a> SrA Christopher Wright <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="608177" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/608177-spc-margaret-higgins">SPC Margaret Higgins</a> LTC Stephen F. Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:29:17 -0500 2015-03-07T15:29:17-05:00 Response by SSG Michael Scott made Oct 23 at 2015 5:39 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1061492&urlhash=1061492 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Still waiting SSG Michael Scott Fri, 23 Oct 2015 17:39:56 -0400 2015-10-23T17:39:56-04:00 Response by LTC Stephen C. made Oct 23 at 2015 9:00 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1061835&urlhash=1061835 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sorry, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="563704" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/563704-11a-infantry-officer">LTC Stephen F.</a>, but I'm already on the other side! LTC Stephen C. Fri, 23 Oct 2015 21:00:25 -0400 2015-10-23T21:00:25-04:00 Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Oct 23 at 2015 9:22 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1061877&urlhash=1061877 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Jan 03 - Mar 04. I don't count on it and won't hold my breath. SGM Mikel Dawson Fri, 23 Oct 2015 21:22:16 -0400 2015-10-23T21:22:16-04:00 Response by SSG Brian Lovins made Oct 25 at 2015 4:05 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1065074&urlhash=1065074 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would just be happy if Tricare Reserve Retired was more reasonable for family members, I was former active duty that went into the Guard after ETS, was Activated for Noble Eagle from Feb 03 through Dec 04.. SSG Brian Lovins Sun, 25 Oct 2015 16:05:58 -0400 2015-10-25T16:05:58-04:00 Response by COL Andreas de Kunffy made Oct 26 at 2015 10:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1068098&urlhash=1068098 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This will never be fixed unless it is attached as an add on to a budgetary bill. Congress has several Representatives in the House that have actively supporting the passage, but it always gets cut in the senate. If you want this to happen, you need to not only contact your Congressman\Senator but also make this a campaign issue. I believe that the issue is more about ability to pay vs. desire to do it. My deal with Uncle Sam was retirement at 60. I would love to receive my retirement pay at 57 instead of 58 1/2, but it probably will not happen. I'm thankful; the law has been changed and will get a payout a little earlier than expected. Even better, future Veterans will benefit from the precedents that have been set. COL Andreas de Kunffy Mon, 26 Oct 2015 22:46:19 -0400 2015-10-26T22:46:19-04:00 Response by 1SG John Mohon made Oct 27 at 2015 6:44 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1070073&urlhash=1070073 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Still waiting, with five mobs, including three overseas after 9/11. Last mob 2008-2010 OEF. Not gonna hold my breath, but it would be nice to retire now instead of in another 18 months or so. 1SG John Mohon Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:44:19 -0400 2015-10-27T18:44:19-04:00 Response by SP6 Ken Cronenworth made Nov 18 at 2015 7:19 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1117560&urlhash=1117560 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They gave me 3 months for 8months served in 2008. SP6 Ken Cronenworth Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:19:28 -0500 2015-11-18T19:19:28-05:00 Response by LTC John Shaw made Mar 26 at 2016 12:33 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1406045&urlhash=1406045 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am soon to join you in the grey area retiree list. I need to start being vocal on this issue as well. LTC John Shaw Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:33:11 -0400 2016-03-26T12:33:11-04:00 Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Mar 26 at 2016 12:47 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=1406073&urlhash=1406073 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not sure if I'm gray area or not. First mob was SEP 04, been mob'd twice since, then forced into retirement last SEP. Since I have NO IDEA who calculated my service credit point or HOW, nor do I have a POC, I'm like you, LTC - welcome to the world of "you're screwed, dude" 1SG Michael Blount Sat, 26 Mar 2016 12:47:53 -0400 2016-03-26T12:47:53-04:00 Response by COL Mikel J. Burroughs made Sep 21 at 2017 5:58 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-many-of-us-are-gray-area-retired-reserve-waiting-for-congress-to-give-us-retirement-credit-for-service-after-9-11?n=2934751&urlhash=2934751 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="563704" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/563704-11a-infantry-officer">LTC Stephen F.</a> I didn&#39;t qualified I was mobilized for OIF 05-07 from August 5, 2005 until October 15, 2006 my friend. Had to wait until this 23 October 2017, for my official retirement after 37 years (Orders received 11 August 2017 and dated for 23 Oct 2017) - was in the gray area from 1 February 2012, up to this 23 October 2017, (a total of over 5 years) - that is what you get for enlisting at age 17. It is what it is Stephen@ COL Mikel J. Burroughs Thu, 21 Sep 2017 05:58:11 -0400 2017-09-21T05:58:11-04:00 2015-03-07T15:29:17-05:00