How long after a soldier receives a FG A-15 does the unit have to take their rank?

2023-01-11T16:42:47-05:00

I have a soldier who was demoted from E4 to E3, however, he is still an e4 on his ERB and LES.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Jan 11 at 2023 5:01 PM

2023-01-11T17:01:19-05:00

SGT Private RallyPoint Member 1955, 7th Signal Co, Camp Casey. The company commander told SFC Krotzer that he was going to bust him. That night at the company’s NCO Club, Krotzer lamented what his wife would say upon receiving a smaller paycheck. The next day, Krotzer cut one rocker off his chevrons on several uniforms. He became a hard ass NCO and was ‘by the book’ for a while. Then, after no orders of reduction were published, other uniforms with all of the stripes started reappearing. Not a word was said and Krotzer soon resumed his old habits!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 11 at 2023 5:24 PM

2023-01-11T17:24:54-05:00

EMilpo isn't processing any rank changes because IPSSA is being implemented. Have no fear, the Army will get their rank and DFAS will get their money, effective to the date of reduction. Tell youe SM to save that extra money because it's coming out the pay check after ippsa goes into effect

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jan 11 at 2023 5:57 PM

2023-01-11T17:57:11-05:00

The rank should be removed during the administration of the AR by the Commander, generally removed by the 1SG or CSM.

Response by Cpl Vic Burk made Jan 12 at 2023 7:23 AM

2023-01-12T07:23:35-05:00

In the Corps it was immediate as soon as the battalion commander sentenced the Marine and they had not be wearing it after that. They were stripped of the stripe as they walked out the door. I can't say for the Army. Their regulations may be different.

Response by SSG Bill McCoy made Jan 12 at 2023 10:46 AM

2023-01-12T10:46:06-05:00

In my day, it was almost immediate ... or, as soon as Personnel processed it which was very quick. The rank had to be removed from uniforms the very day of the Art 15. As SFC Private RallyPoint Member said, the service member needs to prepare for a (lump sum reverse back-pay) reduction. OUCH! So the sooner it's processed, the better.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jan 12 at 2023 4:51 PM

2023-01-12T16:51:10-05:00

Should be as soon as S1 got the orders off the ART 15- evidently, someone needs to wake them up!

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Jan 20 at 2023 12:14 PM

2023-01-20T12:14:44-05:00

The removal of rank was same day service as soon as sentencing was rendered. Depending on what day of the month the UCMJ was administered determined when it showed up on the ERB and finance documents. Prior to the 10th of the month usually showed up on the ERB by the end of the month.
We used to do a monthly pay and manning reconciliation, so nothing hung out past 45 days or so. I don't know if that still happens.