How hard is it to get a waiver (can't pass APFT, possible chapter case) to transition from USAR to AD Army?

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:04:48 -0400

Scenario: 4 yrs actuve duty Marines, got out joined USAR, went to college and doesn’t like it, wants to go back on Active Duty RA. Been a couch potato and can’t pass APFT. Reserves will probably chapter him out. Can he go to a recruiter and still join RA? If so, how hard is it to get a waiver?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2018 3:41 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:41:52 -0400

If the recruiter will take him, he has to fill out a release and send it up the chain of command I believe the first 1 star can sign it. But if he is in that bad of shape not sure a recruiter will touch him.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2018 3:56 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:56:36 -0400

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member Ma'am, As a Marine he knows the steps to get back in shape. He needs to get back in shape where he can pass the APFT, and then go to a recruiter. If he refuses to get off the couch and work his tail off, no military career.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Apr 7 at 2018 2:13 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Sat, 07 Apr 2018 14:13:29 -0400

If they cannot meet basic standards, in my experience, the military is not going to go the extra mile (i.e. allowing waivers) for anything. If someone is not able to put forth the min. effort then why should the military put forth an extra effort?

Response by SFC Kelly Fuerhoff made Apr 10 at 2018 4:04 PM

SFC Kelly Fuerhoff — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 16:04:09 -0400

If he can't pass a APFT he's not getting a waiver and not getting in Army AD. They're kicking out people who are nondelpoyable for 12 consecutive months.

If he wants to be active duty he better get back into shape before talking to a recruiter. I would be surprised if there are waivers for APFT failure in the Reserve to go AD. If he's about to get chaptered...I doubt it.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 10 at 2018 5:49 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 17:49:49 -0400

DAMN hard since he can't cut the mustard in the current place. Why should the AD waste money on him if he is getting canned from the USAR for Christ's sake?

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2018 9:55 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 21:55:11 -0400

Thank you for your candid response. I sort of knew that already, but thought I ask.