How do you feel about anti-troop pages?

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:37:14 -0400

https://www.facebook.com/thetroopssuck?fref=ts
I believe in freedom of speech but not when you are insulting a specific people. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airman do not make the choices to go kill people or start a war, yet they get blamed. The page says they do not wish us harm, but they call us stupid...

What do you make of pages such as this?

Fuck the Troops

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 4:48 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:48:11 -0400

When I was a young man and considering which branch of the military I was going to join, my dad had a conversation with me about who I would be defending. He told me I would be fighting for the “Salt of the earth” people and not the guy who was protesting my existence from the streets of whatever city he was in. At the time, I agreed with his thought. I was young and he was a veteran of three years in the Army and 17 years in the Navy. After time, I realized I am fighting for both. We who serve volunteered to write the blank check in the amount of up-to and including our life. We do not serve for a specific group, rather we serve for the entirety of our nation, good or bad, because we believe in our nation, our Constitution, and the idea of America.

They can say whatever they feel like saying. They can tell me I am an automaton with no original thought. I do not care. I know why I am here, I do not need to be validated by someone as closed minded as this person appears to be.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 4:51 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 04:51:20 -0400

Meh! Not worth spending one of my give a f*#s on. That's one of the things we fight to protect, Americans that express their freedom of speech...even if it's bullshit!

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Mar 26 at 2015 8:32 AM

Capt Richard I P. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 08:32:31 -0400

The sheepdog does not mind the bleating of the sheep.

Response by CPT Zachary Brooks made Mar 26 at 2015 9:26 AM

CPT Zachary Brooks — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 09:26:52 -0400

Let them display their ignorance, doesn't bother me. Plenty of people have it buried deep in their heads that we are the reason so many countries have been invaded and people killed, that we the soldiers are the problems. I've been called a crazed gunman, a lunatic, and a baby killer at different times in my life.

Let them say what they want, but they do not understand. One day they may need us, and we will be there to defend them because that is what we do. Maybe then they can open their eyes and see how idiotic they are.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Mar 26 at 2015 11:30 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:30:44 -0400

Pffffffffffft, Who?

Clicking on their pages to view what you disagree with only empowers them.
Show your lack of support for their ideals by not supporting them.
They are irrelevant, keep them that way by ignoring them . (My former troops are gasping for air..and screaming They...THEY, who the fuck are THEY SGM.......lol, so for them I expand.. they are the ones who would make such a page as what was posted in the thread starter)

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Mar 26 at 2015 12:10 PM

SSG Robert Burns — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:10:04 -0400

It made me cry. Nope it didn't, I was sneezing.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 12:13 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:13:35 -0400

Doesn't bother me I consider the people that believe this and feel sorry for them. Plus not like they have the balls to do more then talk.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 12:17 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:17:34 -0400

The pages are a bunch of BS posted by people who have NO knowledge of the military and who have some sort of perceived ax to grind. Most will someday actually wake up in the real world. But until then I just blow them off.

Response by SPC Donald Tribble made Mar 26 at 2015 12:28 PM

SPC Donald Tribble — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:28:32 -0400

As long as they're not promoting physical violence towards Military Members then they're pretty much covered by the First Ammendment. That being said I have First Ammendment rights too.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Mar 26 at 2015 1:29 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:29:51 -0400

While I think they should never see the light of day, I agree with CSM Private RallyPoint Member, they really aren't worth our time and effort to spend "one of my give a f*#s on" (love that phrase by the way).

Throughout history, people have always tried to be against some of the other. While we have taken the time to help protect their ability to post such stupidity, it is ever going to end. While people are allowed and encourage their own thoughts and ideas, this type of thing will continue so just brush it off and do something positive to help improve those around you. Then your actions will echo louder in history than some idiot's attempt at social media marketing.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Mar 26 at 2015 1:33 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:33:33 -0400

I think they are stupid for not blaming the politicians. This is pretty common though. I think it says that a large part of society is ignorant, uneducated, and they are idiots.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 1:51 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:51:29 -0400

Pretty much...

Response by SFC Steven Borders made Mar 26 at 2015 1:59 PM

SFC Steven Borders — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 13:59:14 -0400

These are just people that have never joined anything worth wile or bigger than themselves. It is my belief that everyone should serve at least three years. There are a lot of countries that do that. I think it would give people a better understanding on what we do.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Mar 26 at 2015 2:04 PM

SGT Jeremiah B. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:04:10 -0400

Ignore them. Engaging them is giving the creators exactly what they want at best and confirming everything they already think when they get gang piled by a bunch of rage filled vets at worst.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Mar 26 at 2015 2:04 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:04:52 -0400

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member, I echo the sentiments of many that have responded. Ultimately, this garbage isn't worth your time.

Response by SGT Tyler G. made Mar 26 at 2015 2:32 PM

SGT Tyler G. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:32:07 -0400

Well, I believe in the first amendment, so I believe they have the right to express their beliefs. I don't agree with them, but that isn't a good enough reason to get upset over something that doesn't harm me or those I care about in the slightest.

Response by MSgt Keith Hebert made Mar 26 at 2015 2:35 PM

MSgt Keith Hebert — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:35:35 -0400

"To defend the constitution of the United States"
Enough said

Response by SSG Alex Toulomelis made Mar 26 at 2015 2:36 PM

SSG Alex Toulomelis — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:36:37 -0400

While I despise these type of pages I would have to say that the people that put them up are confused as to where to put their anger. These types of pages have only one objective and that is to help the creator support his or her claims about said group. When service members comment on those pages or about those pages it gives them more attention and sometimes more ammo to "support" their theories about the military. The best thing that we can all do is to simply ignore them and accept that the people who create them are ignorant to the true cause of their own anger.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2015 2:38 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 14:38:18 -0400

To paraphrase Voltaire, I may not agree with what you say, but I will fight to the death to protect your right to say it. Free speech has to be totally free. South Park put it very well in one episode. "Either everything is ok to make fun of, or nothing is"

Response by 1SG Steven Stankovich made Mar 26 at 2015 3:01 PM

1SG Steven Stankovich — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:01:15 -0400

Those pages disappoint me. In part it is because those people who create those pages will never be able to fathom the type and amount of sacrifice made by those who wear a uniform and by their families. The other part that disappoints me is the lack of desire to educate themselves before throwing up those sites.

However, I always fall back to a quote attributed to Voltaire which says "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Unfortunately one does not need to pass a test to enjoy freedom of speech.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Mar 26 at 2015 3:19 PM

SSG Trevor S. — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 15:19:41 -0400

While I am glad we protected their rights enough for them to say this without worry, I wonder what their reaction would be if the situation were reversed.

Response by TSgt David Holman made Mar 26 at 2015 4:36 PM

TSgt David Holman — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 16:36:48 -0400

I think it is highly disrespectful, but it is covered under their First Amendment rights... it is also within my rights to think of anyone on that page as a complete, uninformed idiot.

Response by SSG John Sundberg made Mar 26 at 2015 5:42 PM

SSG John Sundberg — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:42:13 -0400

I must grant them their opinions even if I believe that they are wrong with 2 exception. They cannot force me to listen, though I may choose to from curiosity or boredom, and they cannot advocate violence against those who have served.

Response by SSG Gelbert Samsung made Mar 26 at 2015 6:20 PM

SSG Gelbert Samsung — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 18:20:13 -0400

Not worth shedding a tear, NEXT

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Mar 26 at 2015 10:21 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:21:20 -0400

You know the old saying, "Opinions are like A-Holes, everyone's got one". We took an oath and stood a post so that these people could exercise their freedom of speech. It isn't fair but at least its not Siberia.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Mar 27 at 2015 3:11 AM

SFC Mark Merino — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 03:11:32 -0400

CSM Private RallyPoint Member nailed it. We have to protect all speech or there is no more free speech. That being said, "I fart in their general direction."

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Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 4:17 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 04:17:42 -0400

When I hear about these anti- troop pages, of course I feel a bit frustrated, but I calmly take a breath and go on with my day. Mainly because I don't want to get upset for someone using their freedom and right to their opinion just because we disagree, it is what we as Military fight for, for the right to say your opinion so that's just how I see it people sharing a similar opinion.

Response by SSG Mike L made Mar 27 at 2015 6:19 AM

SSG Mike L — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 06:19:07 -0400

although the words coming from people like that disgust me , as an American citizen it's that shit birds right to say that. ...I will defend that right ...may not like it but I will defend it ....you have the right to say what is on your mind in this country .. you also have the right to leave it

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Mar 27 at 2015 6:29 AM

Cpl Jeff N. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 06:29:12 -0400

These are the mentally lazy and slothful among us. Every generation has them. They serve no real purpose other than to make themselves feel important because they have the ability and the right to speak freely. What is the natural reaction of people that have never lifted a finger to preserve or defend the rights they so freely use? It is to bite the hand that feeds them.

With the advent of the internet, the lazy and slothful have a new tool to reach more people and cast a wider net. They can go to school on mommy and daddy's money, learn leftist propagand and how to develop web sites. They can then sit in mommy and daddy's basement and create web sites to spew the BS that in their feeble minds passes for knowledge out to the world. They will reap a harvest because there are many more as lazy and slothful as them. Consider the source then keep the F#@* you might have given to them as they do not deserve it.

They are only set and kept free by better people than them. If you want to see one of the better people, look in the mirror or at the profiles on this website. F#*& them all.

Response by SGT Jim Z. made Mar 27 at 2015 7:15 AM

SGT Jim Z. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 07:15:04 -0400

I do not have to like them nor do I need to support them. They can spout their hate and crap but the best policy is to ignore them and not give them the time of day.

Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Mar 27 at 2015 8:34 AM

SFC Collin McMillion — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:34:25 -0400

To talk about us, put us down, call us names is nothing new, just ignorance. The people who do these thing have a mental block, we don't do it for ourselves, but for them to have the right to say and do these things. In most other countries they would either be shot or imprisoned. Ignorance is a disease for which there is no cure. We have, we are, and we will continue to protect America and also their rights too regardless. We know that their ignorance and stupidity will continue, but so will we!!!!

Response by SSG Mark Ives made Mar 27 at 2015 9:12 AM

SSG Mark Ives — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:12:49 -0400

There are so many trolls on the internet/Facebook/et al that get off on causing discourse just to see people go off about it. They think they are so clever by pulling peoples strings, being puppet masters in their own minds. They aren't worth the time to be responded to.

Response by SSgt Dan Montague made Mar 27 at 2015 9:23 AM

SSgt Dan Montague — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:23:44 -0400

things like this I just laugh at now. Most of these people are so misinformed about what happens it just makes if funny. These are the people that believe that Fox news is "fare and balanced" Ha Ha BS!! Show of hands here.....How many baby killers on RP????? I'm guessing ZERO

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 9:26 AM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 09:26:30 -0400

I view it as uninformed and childish behavior and won't lower myself to that level. Reminds me of kids on the playground. It's protected speech that allows idiots to call themselves out.

Response by SGT Richard H. made Mar 27 at 2015 11:17 AM

SGT Richard H. — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:17:50 -0400

Screw 'em. It just means that the Constitution that we're defending is working.

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Mar 27 at 2015 11:20 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 11:20:12 -0400

While they burn my ass, it is their right, although most of them are highly mistaken in their view points, to post them, it's is one of the Freedoms WE serve so dearly to protect and uphold. I do not waste my time on them and my only thought on it is that I pity any of the individuals that choose to spout any of this crap to me personally. :-D

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 27 at 2015 10:41 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 22:41:30 -0400

As a group they're more than happy to enjoy the freedoms and prosperity we defend. They have the luxury of ignorance that our country's "sheepdogs" do not.