How do we fight the enemy who is willing to die for Jihad?

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Should the POTUS be changing his strategy in how we are acting/re acting/ towards ISIS and other enemies?
Now that Paris has been attached (AGAIN) and the Russian Airliner has been blown up....shouldn't the POTUS be more concerned and be taking more measures in FIRST protecting the US and 2nd help out other countries more and once and for all getting RID of ISIS and those like them??

BACK IN 2007 President George BUSH made a statement that if we pull the troops out too early that sort of thing would happened. He warned us and told us to be vigilant and aware and do the SMART thing, yet Obama had to keep true to his campaign and removed the troops without LOOKING DOWN the road and seeing the HUGE consequences this would cause.

On TUESDAY NOVEMBER 10th Hillary Clinton got on TV and said ISIS is in check and under control...and WOW! three days later, FRANCE is attacked and over 200 are killed and nearly 400 are injured.

Please explain to me WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION??

Obama got on TV this morning and is still acting like ISIS is under control and that he's not moving from his stance.

What the heck is wrong with him?

How do we fight an enemy that wants to die for jihad?

Counterterror expert Dr. Sebastian Gorka offers insight on ISIS

Response by SSG Audwin Scott made Nov 16 at 2015 11:17 AM

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Becoming a harden target, upgrade security and always be vigilant!

Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Nov 16 at 2015 11:22 AM

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Sgt Kelli Mays I agree with your post 100%! We need to step up counterinsurgency operations and get the Dept. Of Homeland Security with the NSA, and CIA engaged on a world wide mission to destroy ISIS before they go global.

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Nov 16 at 2015 11:29 AM

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Like I have stated in the past. DO NOT ALLOW SYRIAN REFUGEES IN THE COUNTRY! In my opinion they are a trojan horse and sleeper cells with the refugees are getting in to this country undetected. We as a country need to wake up. Now all of a sudden Donald Trumps ideas don't seem so outrages.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Nov 16 at 2015 11:33 AM

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How do we fight cockroaches and rats? The only difference is that the Jihadists don't reproduce as fast as the other vermin. We are fighting this battle with no strategy and trying to get someone else to take it to the enemy. I can assure you that no one will be here to protect us on the Homeland, when they come.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Nov 16 at 2015 11:35 AM

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We should help them on their way to die for their cause as best we can with minimal loss of life and injury to "innocent" bystanders Sgt Kelli Mays.
Since our POTUS leadership seems to be reluctant I would not be depending on the USA to get serious about defeating ISIS yet.
Thankfully, the French are now engaged in Syria which was a colony of theirs. They are more ruthless than we are in terms of going after an enemy such as ISIS. They are much more willing to have civilian deaths and injuries as collateral damage.
I am thankful that the kurdish peshmerga are riled up as well. They know how to deal with ISIS, identify those in need of rescue and rescue those who need to be freed from the grip of ISIS.
I expect that there has been an improvement in Iraq, especially northern Iraq, of a willingness to go against ISIS and help to drive them out of the nation and eliminate any profits from ISIS black market thugs.

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Nov 16 at 2015 11:44 AM

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If they want to die for their cause, I suggest we accommodate them. Taking my tongue out of my cheek, I did find it ironic that the President did say, "We will be careful screening all immigrants." Is this the start of a "new" immigration policy?

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 11:47 AM

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Defend and offense? harden your soft target, and kill as many as you can find them?

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Nov 16 at 2015 12:20 PM

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We have fought this enemy before. The Japanese, during WWII, were as fanatical an enemy as you could face. They believed in dying for the emperor and fighting to the death. The emperor was their god and they would die fighting for him, to the last man.

Defeating the Japanese required some of the most brutal, vicious fighting we had ever seen facing our military. Absolute annihilation of their army, navy and air forces and destroying their will to fight and their leaderships will to fight was the mission. Japan was a nation state and that is certainly a difference but ISIS has turf/geography under their control. They want a caliphate and we can certainly deny them that. Nothing will demotivate potential recruits like seeing their predecessors being annihilated on battlefields with extreme prejudice.

We simply lack the will to do what needs to be done. Fighting an enemy that is willing to die for his country is not an issue/concern. Having the courage to do what must be done, having leadership that can explain the necessity of doing so and then putting the wheels in motion is the challenge. It is not the easy course and it will come at a price. We have a president that is unwilling to answer the call and proactively engage an enemy that is sworn to kill us and is demonstrating capability to back up the threats.

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made Nov 16 at 2015 12:27 PM

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Just arrange the meeting - I'm more than happy to help them out with their wish!

Response by PFC David Ryba made Nov 16 at 2015 12:28 PM

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He's been smoking the presidential bong too long???

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Nov 16 at 2015 12:30 PM

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"No man every won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..."
- General Patton

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Nov 16 at 2015 12:39 PM

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What strategy from the POTUS were you speaking to? I think that is one of the greatest issues in the whole affair, no clearly defined strategy and now we have second tier state actors stepping into the void created by the current administration.

To the question in your tag line; 'How do we fight the enemy who is willing to die for Jihad?' Give them every opportunity we can for them to die for their Jihad.

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Nov 16 at 2015 12:43 PM

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Simple Sgt Kelli Mays kill them before they get to our country.

Response by SR Mark Howard made Nov 16 at 2015 1:04 PM

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I feel that our POTUS should change his views towards ISIS and look at said groups that choode to attack and kill inovent people as a group tjat needs to ge taken out of commission

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 16 at 2015 1:04 PM

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Our government is incapable of knowing the dynamics of ISIS, and it is much bigger than an insurgency as ISIS thinks it is a revolution in the making. The government does not realize that we must fight the enemy where they are located. Hillary thinks a few emails will defeat ISIS.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Nov 16 at 2015 1:29 PM

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There was a man on this morning who is a Reformed? sympathizer who actually made a lot of sense. To paraphrase he said that basically terrorism has evolved. It used to be that it had to be state sponsored explosives, weapons, people had to travel under the guise of diplomatic pouch/personnel to get to the target location. Large scale it could not function without help from a nation state. It evolved to where it no longer needed the state, but still had a command structure (Al Queda for example). It has evolved to where it no longer needs that structure. All it needs is like minded individuals with an internet connection. SO how do you combat an enemy that literally is embedded in the social structure of your communities?

His response was to have an open dialogue. The idea being that the only way to defeat an ideology is with ideology. So basically the implication is that to defeat radical Islam, there needs to be a mindset to replace the radicalism. Good Luck with that. The only other thing to combat it is vigilance. We as a society need to pay attention to what is going on in our neighborhood, our community, our city, etc... the problem is then what do you do about when a pattern of wyrd shit (highly technical develops? If you report it, the odds are it won't be believed until it is too late anyway. Even better odds that you will be looked upon as a crazy person. If you take action personally, then you risk legal ramifications if you are wrong. Use the military? Now you start another war on foreign soil causing more American Service Members to come home dead, or maimed fighting against an idea. So unless we are willing to straight up bomb any ISIL held territory until there is nothing alive in the territory, the only choice we have is to change the way people think. Build schools, educate people. Literacy would be a huge weapon in this war.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Nov 16 at 2015 1:43 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays How about some good 'ol WWII-style carpet bombing? Just glass that whole fucking desert.

Is that an option?

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Nov 16 at 2015 2:29 PM

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How do we fight an enemy who is willing to die? Help them.

Response by CW3 Eric W. S. made Nov 16 at 2015 5:32 PM

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Politely grant that wish

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Nov 16 at 2015 5:36 PM

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Sgt Kelli Mays, Obama is living in his own private ideological fantasy world, and is unconnected with reality. How else can his blindness be explained?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Nov 16 at 2015 5:52 PM

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We do it by killing the ISIS martyrs in Iraq. If they want to die, lets give them their wish.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Nov 16 at 2015 10:32 PM

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Simple. We dip all of our bullets, bombs, and missiles in bacon grease. That way the terrorists don't go to Paradise. Problem solved. Plus bacon is delicious. More bacon for our troops to eat so that they can produce the necessary amount of grease. That will also bring revenue to the hog farmers as the government will have to spend more money on bacon. It's a win/win situation for America.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Nov 16 at 2015 11:54 PM

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Simply:

“The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.”

They're willing to die? So kill them.

Complex: learn what makes them capable, learn what drives them, what their strategy and motivation is, eliminate either capability or will to fight.

Response by SFC Eric Williams made Nov 17 at 2015 2:04 AM

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Diplomacy, diplomacy, diplomacy, Accommodate, Accommodate, Accommodate....and oblige. We will still have the option to kill....

Many people look at the Middle East and are of the opinion that we are responsible for the centuries of their unrest. We are not.....Our primary focus should be and is the protection of Israel.

I think the president has taken the bulk of the responsibility off of the shoulders of the United States and the life and limbs of her solders and clearly moved us to a roll of support. That in its self is a gauge ship to turn around in less than 8 years. If you haven't listened to his G-20 news conference question and answer session I recommend that you all do. This president acknowledged the cost of war and the value of life. I believe he is utilizing his options diplomatically and I must say masterfully.

President bush was right about the need to maintain a U.S. Presence. But let's not forget the marines that were lost in the Libea bombing during the Regan administration.
There are so many moving pieces to this puzzle I'm not sure there is a true "solution".

Remember, Idiology is nearly impossible to sway. We are battling a mindset who looks at anything other than Muslim as an enemy. Inessance what I'm saying is that if your not at least muslim, your not going to be heard by them, so we should not take a forward stand on this one just a supportive one...I think Jordan and Iran are the the keys to establishing a temporary truce....just a thought!

Response by SFC Joseph Weber made Nov 17 at 2015 4:40 AM

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Kill them.