How do we define an "enemy"? https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-31717"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+we+define+an+%22enemy%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do we define an &quot;enemy&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-we-define-an-enemy" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="98fd3f3dd25238c637a9d19eec2fd120" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/717/for_gallery_v2/470637.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/717/large_v3/470637.jpg" alt="470637" /></a></div></div>When considering the enlistment oath all of us took (or something similar) is as follows:<br />“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”<br /><br />How does one define the term “enemy?”<br /><br />Dictionary.com defines this term as such:<br />- a person who feels hatred for, fosters harmful designs against, or engages in antagonistic activities against another; an adversary or opponent.<br />- an armed foe; an opposing military force:<br />- a hostile nation or state.<br />- a citizen of such a state.<br />- enemies, persons, nations, etc., that are hostile to one another:<br />- something harmful or prejudicial<br /><br />When following this basic definition, how do we specifically define the enemies that we have sworn to fight against? This is easily defined in such groups as ISIL and the Nazis, but what about the more subtle enemies? What about the domestic enemies?<br /><br />Example 1: When police officers perform illegal searches that are against the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution we vowed to protect, are these officers by definition enemies that we must protect the country against?<br /><br />Example 2: When Congress passes a law that counters the Constitution or that law ultimately means citizens are being harmed or having their rights taken away, are they considered an enemy that we must defend against?<br /><br />Example 3: When groups such as “Anonymous” hack known hate groups such as the KKK to shut down their websites, are the hacking groups an enemy?<br /><br />While this line is easy to draw with enemy combatants, where does this extend to non-violent actors that may be operating outside the parameters of the oath we took? Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:18:18 -0400 How do we define an "enemy"? https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-31717"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+we+define+an+%22enemy%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do we define an &quot;enemy&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-we-define-an-enemy" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="1ec3b7cf43fb8c3023e5548ac54e0112" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/717/for_gallery_v2/470637.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/717/large_v3/470637.jpg" alt="470637" /></a></div></div>When considering the enlistment oath all of us took (or something similar) is as follows:<br />“I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.”<br /><br />How does one define the term “enemy?”<br /><br />Dictionary.com defines this term as such:<br />- a person who feels hatred for, fosters harmful designs against, or engages in antagonistic activities against another; an adversary or opponent.<br />- an armed foe; an opposing military force:<br />- a hostile nation or state.<br />- a citizen of such a state.<br />- enemies, persons, nations, etc., that are hostile to one another:<br />- something harmful or prejudicial<br /><br />When following this basic definition, how do we specifically define the enemies that we have sworn to fight against? This is easily defined in such groups as ISIL and the Nazis, but what about the more subtle enemies? What about the domestic enemies?<br /><br />Example 1: When police officers perform illegal searches that are against the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution we vowed to protect, are these officers by definition enemies that we must protect the country against?<br /><br />Example 2: When Congress passes a law that counters the Constitution or that law ultimately means citizens are being harmed or having their rights taken away, are they considered an enemy that we must defend against?<br /><br />Example 3: When groups such as “Anonymous” hack known hate groups such as the KKK to shut down their websites, are the hacking groups an enemy?<br /><br />While this line is easy to draw with enemy combatants, where does this extend to non-violent actors that may be operating outside the parameters of the oath we took? CPT Zachary Brooks Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:18:18 -0400 2015-03-30T12:18:18-04:00 Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Mar 30 at 2015 12:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561505&urlhash=561505 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I used to have a real simple definition of the "enemy" as they were the people shooting at me.<br /><br />However .. to address you examples<br />#1 - Fruit of the Poisonous Tree - results of the search will be tossed and the perp walks. The behavior has been punished and the country protected.<br />#2 - Review of the Supreme Court and Presidential Veto - two defenses against this enemy threat.<br />#3 - Illegal actions are prosecuted by duly constituted law-enforcement agencies. At least 3 layers of protection against these enemies exist. SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:31:56 -0400 2015-03-30T12:31:56-04:00 Response by SSG Dwight Amey MSA, MSL, BS, AS made Mar 30 at 2015 12:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561520&urlhash=561520 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>CPT Zachary B, any human being who attempts to destroy our way of life based off the concepts and ideas the Constitution represents and is entrusted with authority of our Constitution. SSG Dwight Amey MSA, MSL, BS, AS Mon, 30 Mar 2015 12:41:39 -0400 2015-03-30T12:41:39-04:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2015 1:18 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561595&urlhash=561595 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Mother-in-law. SSG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:18:16 -0400 2015-03-30T13:18:16-04:00 Response by LCpl Steve Wininger made Mar 30 at 2015 1:32 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561619&urlhash=561619 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Now there is a philosophical topic! I have two ex's that qualify under the domestic enemy. <br />Fortunately there are laws to protect us against all the examples you listed, however, the one that concerns me the most is those that are entrusted to uphold the constitution and try to pervert it. This is where the citizens have a responsibility to hold the politicians feet to the fire. I know, easier said than done in the age of entitlement. <br /><br />The officer entrusted with the public trust should get the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge (emphasis on dishonorable) There should be a registry for bad cops just like there is for sex offenders. As for anonymous, I understand there intentions may be noble, however, they are still breaking the law by breaking into anothers network or computer. God knows anyone that phisically broke in would be prosecuted. These guys are no different. LCpl Steve Wininger Mon, 30 Mar 2015 13:32:45 -0400 2015-03-30T13:32:45-04:00 Response by COL Ted Mc made Mar 30 at 2015 2:02 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561658&urlhash=561658 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Where the actions are taken by someone who professes radically different beliefs and deliberately designed to cause harm to those who don't hold the same beliefs, the definition is easy.<br /><br />Where the person initiating the actions professes to hold the same beliefs and honestly believes that the actions are beneficial to those holding the same beliefs, then the definition is one hell of a lot more difficult.<br /><br />Of course, it has always been difficult to come up with a rational reason for defining the world solely in terms of "them" and "me (and those I feel are OK)" COL Ted Mc Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:02:55 -0400 2015-03-30T14:02:55-04:00 Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Mar 30 at 2015 2:09 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561664&urlhash=561664 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Using military symbology as an example, we used to use Blue to designate "Ally" and Red for "Enemy" however we shifted away from those designations because they were too simplistic. We now use Blue for "Friendly" and Red for "Hostile."<br /><br />Relationships among countries are like relationships among family.<br /><br />Just because someone is Hostile, doesn't mean they are your Enemy. Just because they are Friendly, doesn't mean they are your Ally. Just because they are Neutral, doesn't mean they fall under any other category.<br /><br />Using the 1990 Middle East as an example.<br /><br />We had open relations with Iraq. They were "Neutral" or even "Friendly" with us. They were "Hostile" to Kuwait. Because of their position between Iran and Saudi Arabia, they were "Neutral" (ish) to Saudi Arabia.<br /><br />When we liberated Kuwait, Iraqi forces were a "Threat" (Hostile), but were not an Enemy. I know this seems counter-intuitive, however so are family relationships.<br /><br />Using the above examples:<br /><br />"Example 1: When police officers perform illegal searches that are against the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution we vowed to protect, are these officers by definition enemies that we must protect the country against?"<br /><br />Possibly. They are definitely a Threat, and possibly Hostile, but are they truly the Enemy, or is the Enemy the government in charge? Calling someone an Enemy dehumanizes them, which in turn opens up the ability to abuse them. Whereas identifying them as Hostile or a Threat turns it into a Risk Management Scenario.<br /><br />"Example 2: When Congress passes a law that counters the Constitution or that law ultimately means citizens are being harmed or having their rights taken away, are they considered an enemy that we must defend against?"<br /><br />Much like above, however this is a matter or perspective. We have already said that Rights may be infringed for the "greater good" and accepted the concept of "collective Rights" which can be weighed against (individual) Rights. As such, are they acting within their stated Power, or outside it? That's why we have Checks &amp; Balances like the Supreme Courts to overturn laws that violate the Intent of the Constitution.<br /><br />"Example 3: When groups such as “Anonymous” hack known hate groups such as the KKK to shut down their websites, are the hacking groups an enemy?"<br /><br />To each other? Possibly. But in reality they are two opposing Hostile groups, as opposed to two Enemies in the strictest sense. <br /><br />"While this line is easy to draw with enemy combatants" - I actually have to disagree that it is easy with * combatants. When we are operating on someone else's Sovereign Land, do they not have the Right to Defend their ways, like we do? Is an insurgent an Enemy, or just Hostile? Are people who support them Enemies or "Threats?" Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:09:55 -0400 2015-03-30T14:09:55-04:00 Response by SPC Donald Tribble made Mar 30 at 2015 3:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561822&urlhash=561822 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Example 1: The search may be ruled unconstitutional by a court. That is how that scenario is handled on a very frequent basis. <br /><br />Example 2: The Constitution lays out the separation of powers. In this scenario the Supreme Court would rule on the constitutionality of the law that was passed.<br /><br />Example 3: Now this is interesting. First the ethical question, is doing the wrong thing for the right reasons ethical? In this case stopping hate speech is a right thing, however is shutting down a website, an illegal act, appropriate? I do not believe that doing the wrong thing for the right reason is ethical. It leads to a situation where as long as we feel something is wrong then we can do whatever we want to stop it and that is not good for humankind. There's a right way of handling things, it's usually not easy or expedient, but it exists and if we are to be better then those we seek to correct then we have to hold ourselves to a higher standard. Are they an enemy though? I think that in the broadest definition of the term, yes they are. But are they an enemy that needs to be dealt with via the Military or should we use the civilian law enforcement of our Nation to deal with it? I think the latter is the better choice. SPC Donald Tribble Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:21:10 -0400 2015-03-30T15:21:10-04:00 Response by CPT Jack Durish made Mar 30 at 2015 4:21 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561914&urlhash=561914 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>We all swore an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Thus, it is important that we decide who are the "enemies". However, if we're not careful, this discussion could begin to sound like Clinton's defense in which he questioned terms: "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is."<br /><br />The truth is that words have many meanings and shadings of meanings that depend upon the context in which they are used.<br /><br />"Enemy" can be used to describe individuals, groups, and nations. There are accepted definitions under international law that have no relation to the people we may consider our political, social, business, or personal enemies.<br /><br />Yes, it is tempting to categorize those who pervert the Constitution as enemies inasmuch as they have done far more damage to our Republic and our individual rights than any enemy combatant in history including the Axis of WWII, the Soviets or the Cold War, and the terrorists. However, it is not the job of the military to protect the Constitution from them. It is rather the job of We the People.<br /><br />Or, at least, that's my opinion... CPT Jack Durish Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:21:40 -0400 2015-03-30T16:21:40-04:00 Response by MSG Brad Sand made Mar 30 at 2015 4:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561931&urlhash=561931 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />First, not sure what oath you are speaking of but our oath of enlistment is:<br /><br />&quot;I, (State your name), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.&quot;<br /><br />It is not important what I define enemy as because we, members of the military, do not get to define who are enemies are, and is some ways, everyone not in our service could be considered our opponent...even other unit within our own service could be considered opponent/enemies?<br /><br />As to your examples, are any of them an actual attack on the Constitution? Really? I don&#39;t thinks so, but IF any are, they are addressed as criminal violations compared to actual assault on our Nation...in my opinion...as a worse case.<br /><br />Example 1: Is a search of your car an actual violation of the Fourth Amendment? Sure the current legal opinion is yes, but that is only an opinion, and would still have a great deal of legal argument ahead of it.<br /><br />Example 2: Congress has pass laws amending the Constitution? The Constitution does not, and cannot, protect us from harm but attempts to define what is role of our government...which has over stepped its mandate and needs some pretty serious pruning, but that is a discussion for another day, but the Congressional attacks on our liberties should be properly fought in the poll booth and in the courts...until such times that they cannot.<br /><br />Example 3: While hacking of the Federal government could reach the level of military attack if done by another nation or non-nation power, the attacks on social group on another is not a military question but a law enforcement...if that?<br /><br />Should we oppose wrong if we see it? Yes, of course but that is your duty as a citizen, not as a soldier. One problem in our Nation is that too many have forgotten their duty and responsibilities as citizens. We the people are the government in this Republic. I think it can be very dangerous to forget your duty as a citizen and confuse that with your duty as a soldier. You are both, but they are not the same. MSG Brad Sand Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:31:02 -0400 2015-03-30T16:31:02-04:00 Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Mar 30 at 2015 4:47 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=561951&urlhash=561951 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>According to 50 USCS § 2204 [Title 50. War and National Defense; Chapter 39. Spoils of War], enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States; <br /><br />(3) the term "person" means<br /><br />(A) any natural person; <br /><br />(B) any corporation, partnership, or other legal entity; and<br /><br />(C) any organization, association, or group. CSM Michael J. Uhlig Mon, 30 Mar 2015 16:47:49 -0400 2015-03-30T16:47:49-04:00 Response by SGT William Howell made Mar 30 at 2015 6:06 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562094&urlhash=562094 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>He is the guy with the RPG aimed at you! SGT William Howell Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:06:47 -0400 2015-03-30T18:06:47-04:00 Response by PO2 Steven Erickson made Mar 30 at 2015 6:58 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562156&urlhash=562156 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm not trying to evade the question. I'm trying to put these particular examples into context with the idea of military action against "enemies".<br /><br />One phrase in the oath says it all, to me...<br /><br />"...that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law..."<br /><br />In none of the three scenarios would the LAW direct the use of military force against these perpetrators. In none of these scenarios - because of the phrase I quoted - would any member of the military be authorized to use military equipment, personnel or tactics.<br /><br />Now, if Congress authorized the Commander In Chief to track down and destroy ... um ... itself (?), then I guess that'd be quite an event.<br /><br />Regardless, right now the law prevents ANYONE from using the military (not including the USCG) to enforce the law. See "Posse Comitatus Act". PO2 Steven Erickson Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:58:13 -0400 2015-03-30T18:58:13-04:00 Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2015 9:06 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562412&urlhash=562412 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The oath you quote is the oath of allegiance taken by those being naturalized as US citizens. MSG Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 30 Mar 2015 21:06:00 -0400 2015-03-30T21:06:00-04:00 Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 30 at 2015 10:53 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562642&urlhash=562642 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>good job with kids American sniper herd your pop um off at st judes forced down the reylced cow dung water of calif o well<br /><br />my guess whole lot money from trafficked wounded kid busness back home in states PO1 Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 30 Mar 2015 22:53:27 -0400 2015-03-30T22:53:27-04:00 Response by COL Charles Williams made Mar 30 at 2015 11:56 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562760&urlhash=562760 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That... got really hard after the wall came down. The enemy can be who we face on the battlefield, or all of our potential threats and adversaries. You can't address this, until you know who and what the threats are. Easier said then done these days. COL Charles Williams Mon, 30 Mar 2015 23:56:30 -0400 2015-03-30T23:56:30-04:00 Response by 1LT William Clardy made Mar 31 at 2015 4:45 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562940&urlhash=562940 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Taking this as an opportunity to practice applied philosophy, I will say that the first two examples are enemies of the Constitution, but the mere fact of being a threat to the Constitution of the United States does *not* give you license to declare a free-fire zone. As a soldier, you are still obliged to abide by rules of engagement, and one of those rules is a mandate that you are not allowed to either advocate or undertake the violent overthrow of the government of the United States, nor are you authorized to foment a violent insurrection.<br /><br />In other words, your oath obliges you to take action against those police officers, but your means of attack are limited to political and legal campaigns to remove them from the positions they abused, and to force them to face whatever legal punishment is appopriate.<br /><br />In the case of Congress, you are restricted to political action against the offending Congressional members, because the Constitution grants Congress the authority to police itself (DoJ prosecution of members of Congress on charges of bribery are arguably an unconstitutional delegation of that power), and legal campaigns to have unconstitutional laws voided.<br /><br />As to the third example, the act of shutting down a web site is no more an attack on the Constitution than heckling a speaker you find offensive. However, it is an act of vandalism, and the appropriate response is law enforcement. Again, a moderate and measured response is appropriate -- no free-fire zone, no midnight raids. 1LT William Clardy Tue, 31 Mar 2015 04:45:08 -0400 2015-03-31T04:45:08-04:00 Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2015 4:57 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=562947&urlhash=562947 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-31817"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+we+define+an+%22enemy%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do we define an &quot;enemy&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-we-define-an-enemy" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="f5b18c9a9c6fcc20dbc609f6178e4e3c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/817/for_gallery_v2/WP.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/031/817/large_v3/WP.jpg" alt="Wp" /></a></div></div> CSM Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 31 Mar 2015 04:57:46 -0400 2015-03-31T04:57:46-04:00 Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 31 at 2015 8:11 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=563078&urlhash=563078 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There is many variations in how the term enemy can be used. But there are so many contexts that it is different to apply it generally. In the military however we use it as enemy combatants. I think we can pretty much figure that out. If you attack the soldiers or the interests of the US you are an enemy. CPT Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:11:49 -0400 2015-03-31T08:11:49-04:00 Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Mar 31 at 2015 9:22 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=563168&urlhash=563168 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>And today the mix is getting worse. Now there are so many militia groups who we fought against in Iraq, now we are fighting with them against ISIS. I'm wondering if it is who is the threat at the time? SGM Mikel Dawson Tue, 31 Mar 2015 09:22:57 -0400 2015-03-31T09:22:57-04:00 Response by Capt Richard I P. made Mar 31 at 2015 11:39 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=563397&urlhash=563397 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="195910" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/195910-cpt-zachary-brooks">CPT Zachary Brooks</a> OUTSTANDING topic. I wish I could give you more thumbs up! Capt Richard I P. Tue, 31 Mar 2015 11:39:37 -0400 2015-03-31T11:39:37-04:00 Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Mar 31 at 2015 2:49 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=563754&urlhash=563754 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is where I start getting nervous. We are soldiers, not arbiters and executioners of our particular brand of &quot;America.&quot; I personally know some &quot;patriots&quot; that are domestic enemies in every real sense of the word. SGT Jeremiah B. Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:49:00 -0400 2015-03-31T14:49:00-04:00 Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Mar 31 at 2015 8:13 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=564352&urlhash=564352 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The NEWS Media on the battle field is the enemy leaking out your location and what you are doing no regards for your safety. MSG Floyd Williams Tue, 31 Mar 2015 20:13:15 -0400 2015-03-31T20:13:15-04:00 Response by Capt Richard I P. made Apr 1 at 2015 6:17 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=566283&urlhash=566283 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-32113"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=How+do+we+define+an+%22enemy%22%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhow-do-we-define-an-enemy&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHow do we define an &quot;enemy&quot;?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-do-we-define-an-enemy" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="3b27e4a0c17cfef4c25bc40a428a23f9" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/032/113/for_gallery_v2/concord-bridge-1.jpg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/032/113/large_v3/concord-bridge-1.jpg" alt="Concord bridge 1" /></a></div></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="195910" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/195910-cpt-zachary-brooks">CPT Zachary Brooks</a>, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="106303" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/106303-88m-motor-transport-operator">SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL</a>, Gentlemen, as promised, here is my philosophical answer.<br /><br />The real question is not simply how we define an enemy, based on the follow-up commentary in the OP. Nor is it even how we define an enemy of the constitution given the implied simplicity of defining a foreign enemy as indicated in the OP (I take issue with that, but will let it slide for now). <br /><br />The first real question being asked here is:&quot;What about the domestic enemies?&quot;<br /><br />The answer is very complex, as indicated by the debate we already see. I would say any person intentionally acting in a way clearly and observably contrary to the guidelines of the Constitution is an enemy of the Constitution. <br /><br />Therefore examples 1 and 2 appear to indicate enemies of the constitution, if the actors have been educated and have chosen to violate it nonetheless. (Example 3 involves crime-the Constitution is intended to restrict the action of Government, not private citizens.) <br /><br />This leads to the next question: &quot;While this line is easy to draw with enemy combatants [I also disagree with this], where does this extend to non-violent actors that may be operating outside the parameters of the oath we took?&quot;<br /><br />My answer follows a basic tenet: violence is only acceptable in answer to violence or imminent violence. It is not acceptable to initiate violence against a peaceful adversary. We must seek to educate and persuade the peaceful enemies of our constitution in accordance with our oaths, while remaining prepared to defend violently our unalienable rights: life liberty and the pursuit of happiness against violent attempts to remove them. <br /><br />I think our founding fathers layed out an excellent example of when violence against a tyrannical opponent to freedom is acceptable: when they embark on a long term operational campaign to forcibly disarm the populace. <br /><br />I&#39;m interested in the thoughts of some of my favorite debate opponents: CPT Michael Barden <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="470776" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/470776-sgt-aaron-kennedy-ms">Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1186" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1186-tsgt-joshua-copeland">TSgt Joshua Copeland</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="113348" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/113348-11b1v-airborne-ranger-hhc-249th-rti">SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="163183" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/163183-11z-infantry-senior-sergeant-2nd-bct-3rd-id">CSM Private RallyPoint Member</a> <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="365577" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/365577-sgm-erik-marquez">SGM Erik Marquez</a>. Capt Richard I P. Wed, 01 Apr 2015 18:17:50 -0400 2015-04-01T18:17:50-04:00 Response by SFC Collin McMillion made Apr 1 at 2015 7:43 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=566451&urlhash=566451 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I guess I will receive a lot of flack over my opinion, but you can't please everyone. If I am forced to pull the trigger on someone, then that is my enemy. I in all truthfulness can not and will not say I haven't made terrible disicisions, but I am the one who has to live with those and the lose to others concerned. SFC Collin McMillion Wed, 01 Apr 2015 19:43:00 -0400 2015-04-01T19:43:00-04:00 Response by 1SG David Niles made Apr 1 at 2015 8:52 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=566558&urlhash=566558 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That was not my oath, when did they change it? 1SG David Niles Wed, 01 Apr 2015 20:52:03 -0400 2015-04-01T20:52:03-04:00 Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2015 11:31 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=566891&urlhash=566891 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The enemy is, in my mind, any person or persons who try to cause conflict, pain and or war on my country, state or family. 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 01 Apr 2015 23:31:53 -0400 2015-04-01T23:31:53-04:00 Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2015 8:50 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=567300&urlhash=567300 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>According to the Army Dictionary online, enemy is defined as "a party identified as hostile against which the use of force is authorized" and can be found in ADRP 3-0. The DOD Dictionary online only had a definition for enemy combatant and source DODD 2310.01E. LTC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 02 Apr 2015 08:50:20 -0400 2015-04-02T08:50:20-04:00 Response by SPC David Hannaman made Apr 2 at 2015 3:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=568065&urlhash=568065 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Defend.<br /><br />It doesn't say take arms against or destroy. <br /><br />In the first two examples apathy is the true enemy, both can be defended against by turning off the television, deleting "Candy Crush" off the cell phone and getting involved in the political process. Educate yourself on the issues beyond what the extreme left or extreme right pundants' are saying and try to educate the people around you... and for the love of God, show up to the polls on voting day!<br /><br />Example #3 is a little trickier:<br />"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."<br />~ Evelyn Beatrice Hall<br /><br />The tricky part is when you balance "Freedom of Speech" vs. legality. Racism and Pedophilia are both illegal, and there's no doubt in my mind that they should be, but what about marijuana use, abortion, or gay marriage? <br /><br />To say that people can't talk about their beliefs (legal or illegal) is an insult to liberty.<br /><br />The Constitution does NOT however say that I have to *listen* to the diarrhea that comes out of every pie hole that stands on a soap box and spews it. SPC David Hannaman Thu, 02 Apr 2015 15:51:16 -0400 2015-04-02T15:51:16-04:00 Response by Thor Tron61 made Mar 26 at 2018 6:46 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=3484513&urlhash=3484513 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Any one person or group of people, who go against the building blocks of our Constitution, are by default enemies to that Constitution and the people who are the &#39;protectors&#39; of our Freedoms. Non violent actors are the most violent, disturbed enemy combatants of our Constitution. For they organize and instigate the idea to destabilize our republic &amp; dismantle our Freedoms, one right at a time. Non violent actors are far more dangerous than violent enemies, because they plan ahead, design 200 year ideological agenda&#39;s, sign their John Hancock to invade other people&#39;s nation&#39;s while millions of innocent men, women and yes children are slaughtered for natural resourced, opinions and idea&#39;s. Apply these types of agenda&#39;s which are executed in other nation&#39;s, in order to steal, seperate, kill, abuse and control by military and media brute force and look at our own country. For these same &#39;Law Makers&#39;, &#39;Foreign Policy&#39; creators, Mass Media Hypnosis mediator&#39;s/Liars, &#39;Congress&#39;, &#39;Lobbyists(Bribery)&#39;, Military Commanders and the President(just a sheep who speak for all who have spent millions of dollars, and mutual friends/interests in U.S. politics, a President hasn&#39;t any actual Powers at all. For if the sheep stopped following and listening to his/her herder... They would assassinate him/her). If I was President, I would fire every politician. I would fire every law maker. I would fire every high ranking military official. I would fire every foreign policy maker. I would stop allowing media to kie and I would throw them into Prisons when they told lies. I would fire the entire corrupt political system. I would tell the private reserve, who aren&#39;t actually a part of our Federal government, to pack their shit, leave their press and plates and get the fuck out of the United Stated Of America or they&#39;d face life sentences for espionage and theft of the American people and thd people&#39;s elected Official&#39;s. I would make it so Lobbying is a Felony, punishable by a minimum of twenty years inside a State&#39;s Correctional Institution. I would put a cap on the amount of wealth a corporation and/or an individual may accumulate(20 million per year Max) &amp; anything made ove the maximum amount, would circulate into social and economic organisation&#39;s in order to aid in making the United States Of America Great Again. The homeless issue would slowly be resolved. I would make it a Felony to hide any money made within the U.S.A. in Off-Shore Bank Accounts, because every person MUST pay their Fair share and Must be taxed on what they have earned regardless of Wealth. I would make it a Law that if your Company or Corporation was created in the U.S.A., you cannot leave or move that business to go to another country(Slave Labor) &amp; I would make Slave Laboring a Felony, punishable by a Maximum of 20 years. I would allow Business to dump, but they must clean up safely at their own expenses. Failjre to provide a clean environment will result in a 20 billion dollar fine, enough to almost put you out of business, but that would be the point. Police Reform would occur and police would need to undergo Psychological Evaluation&#39;s every 6 months. I would create a Psychological Test in order to weed out the Sociopath&#39;s who do join the Police Force. Currently Police have no Test to test Sociopath&#39;s. The test does not exist. I would take away guns from the police every time a department&#39;s individual officer or more were involved in civilian shootings that resulted in the termination of that civilian&#39;s life. They&#39;d be taken from the entire Department for three months and they can try to police with less lethal weapons instead. I would get rid of Police Unions. I would take away all of the military vehicles and military weapons that we have donated to them(their &#39;Warrior Mentality&#39; is a direct cause of receiving military equipment). Police are not warriors and the United States Of America is NOT a &quot;battlefield&quot; nor is it a &quot;warzone&quot;. Police are nothing more than Civilian Servants i.e. Civil Servants, which means they literally are employed to Serve Civilian&#39;s and not violate their Sovereign Master&#39;s protected Rights. If you do not like the idea of being a Servant, than do not become a Police Officer. If you became a Police Officer to fulfil a Rambo Fantasy, than being a Police Officer is not the correct line of work for you. Police Officer&#39;s are nothing more than Social Workers with some State Powers and Guns. Servants. They do not serve nor represent a Mayor, a Court System. They are to serve and represent the People, who&#39;s local taxes help pay their wages. This entire country needs a reformation and fast. There is too much Corruption and everyone must be terminated/fired for they have failed in running this Country under thd United States Constitution. The Constitution is the upmost Highest law of the Land. It wields more power than a King and more Power than the Wealthiest person on planet Earth. The people who didn&#39;t elect, as in Congress and others, have become so corrupt, that our Constitution recognizes thesd Actors as: Tyrants. By default. These Tyrants are thee public enemy # 1 and if they&#39;re Tyrants, than surely the rest of the political spectrum are also Tyrants. Thor Tron61 Mon, 26 Mar 2018 18:46:37 -0400 2018-03-26T18:46:37-04:00 Response by SPC Donald Moore made Dec 11 at 2019 8:01 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/command-post/how-do-we-define-an-enemy?n=5331749&urlhash=5331749 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is the responsibility of soldiers to follow lawful orders, however if the order is not lawful, it is the responsibility of the soldier to point out that the order is not lawful and disobey that order. I forget the name of the law, but there was a law passed after the &quot;Civil War&quot; that was intended to prevent US troops from being used on US soil and the intent was to prevent another civil war ever happening. Even in disaster relief efforts, the troops must be requested by the governor or the state and most of the time it is the National Guard that responds, not regulars. Troops should not be employed to correct any problem of our government and never to fight against the citizens if the citizens rise up against the government. It is in the founding documents of our Republic that it is the duty of the citizens to throw out a corrupt government, so that would be legal and use of troops to resist it would be illegal. Makes sense if you look at it the right way. <br />The first step, if you are not satisfied with the way the country is being run, work to get in a position to fix the problem. Run for office. Get a job with the FBI or CIA. Don&#39;t just complain, take action, but do it within the bounds of law. If you just sit back and complain, you are not doing anything useful. SPC Donald Moore Wed, 11 Dec 2019 08:01:46 -0500 2019-12-11T08:01:46-05:00 2015-03-30T12:18:18-04:00