SSG Ray Strenkowski892746<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've been hearing a lot about suicides lately. I'm just curious how we could help.How do we as a community help our brothers and sisters in the fight against suicide?2015-08-15T21:20:16-04:00SSG Ray Strenkowski892746<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I've been hearing a lot about suicides lately. I'm just curious how we could help.How do we as a community help our brothers and sisters in the fight against suicide?2015-08-15T21:20:16-04:002015-08-15T21:20:16-04:00SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL892749<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would use the word ACE.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.army.mil/article/44579/ace-suicide-prevention-program-wins-national-recognition/">http://www.army.mil/article/44579/ace-suicide-prevention-program-wins-national-recognition/</a>Response by SFC Joe S. Davis Jr., MSM, DSL made Aug 15 at 2015 9:22 PM2015-08-15T21:22:19-04:002015-08-15T21:22:19-04:00CW4 Private RallyPoint Member892786<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="747193" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/747193-ssg-ray-strenkowski">SSG Ray Strenkowski</a>, have awareness of the possible suicide triggers. Make sure that you are truly available for your Soldiers, peers and friends. Always pay attention to personalities and see if you can pick up on changes that might lead to suicide.Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2015 9:47 PM2015-08-15T21:47:58-04:002015-08-15T21:47:58-04:00MAJ Ken Landgren892795<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Tell them where or who to see when they feel weakest, and there is hope for a better life. In the darkness will be a little light, but they have to look for it. As they get nearer it becomes brighter.Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 15 at 2015 9:56 PM2015-08-15T21:56:15-04:002015-08-15T21:56:15-04:00LTC John Shaw892897<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="747193" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/747193-ssg-ray-strenkowski">SSG Ray Strenkowski</a> Connect with them and help them get help at VA, Vet Center or any group that has a willing ear.Response by LTC John Shaw made Aug 15 at 2015 11:04 PM2015-08-15T23:04:00-04:002015-08-15T23:04:00-04:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member892914<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you suspect or hear of someone talking about suicide take it seriously. Don't ignore your gut feeling on these matters. Shed light on it. Here is a link for how to help someone who is suicidal. <a target="_blank" href="http://www.izito.com/c?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helpguide.org%2Farticles%2Fsuicide-prevention%2Fsuicide-prevention-helping-someone-who-is-suicidal.htm">http://www.izito.com/c?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helpguide.org%2Farticles%2Fsuicide-prevention%2Fsuicide-prevention-helping-someone-who-is-suicidal.htm</a>Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 15 at 2015 11:18 PM2015-08-15T23:18:31-04:002015-08-15T23:18:31-04:00MSgt Brian Welch892948<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think a big part of it is the stigma and the high regard and image the public holds of the military. The two work against a proud individual from acknowledging the treatment they need. I'll have to see if I can find the Time magazine article I read a few years back. I was appalled by the article. It talked about the number of military members prescribed medicine for PTSD and had a conclusion to the effect of "is this what protects us". It was completely disconnected from the reality that our military members didn't grow up in Lebanon getting shelled every day. There's only so much you can train a person for. We are not born with all the tools in our toolbox. There should be no stigma attached to being human and having human feelings. What's the suicide rate of people that had a child die? That might actually be lower because we as a society recognize the risk factor. We need to recognize that even a hardened soldier has his kryptonite. We need to help him.Response by MSgt Brian Welch made Aug 15 at 2015 11:43 PM2015-08-15T23:43:29-04:002015-08-15T23:43:29-04:00PO3 Danielle Sandlin892965<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the only thing you can do is let those around you know you are there for them. I am friends with a ton of veterans and active duty still on FB and I regularly post something regarding suicide, I want them to know if they ever need ANYTHING, that I am there.Response by PO3 Danielle Sandlin made Aug 15 at 2015 11:57 PM2015-08-15T23:57:43-04:002015-08-15T23:57:43-04:00PO1 John Miller893143<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />At the minimum, lend them an ear to talk to!Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 16 at 2015 4:02 AM2015-08-16T04:02:25-04:002015-08-16T04:02:25-04:00LTC Stephen Kubiszewski910570<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Ray,<br />The following article, although dated, is still a good summary of the need is now. <br />Excellent summary of the situation and other studies done since roughly 2008 citing both the need, resource base and lack of meaningful integration of services and attention at the grass roots local level.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2015/04/08/ivmf-study-better-coordination/25455899/">http://www.militarytimes.com/story/veterans/2015/04/08/ivmf-study-better-coordination/25455899/</a>Response by LTC Stephen Kubiszewski made Aug 22 at 2015 12:49 PM2015-08-22T12:49:58-04:002015-08-22T12:49:58-04:00MAJ Ken Landgren910729<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The suicidal person needs to know who to turn too when the pain becomes unbearable.Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 22 at 2015 2:27 PM2015-08-22T14:27:05-04:002015-08-22T14:27:05-04:002015-08-15T21:20:16-04:00