How difficult will it be to get a waiver for RE-3G with JFY for Adjustment Disorder?

Alex N — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 02:56:18 -0400

I will shorten this story up quite a bit. Short and to the point. I enlisted AD in the USCG and went to basic in June of 2009. A few weeks in I got incredibly sick and could not get better. (I have all medical documentation from sick call). After another week or so I got discharged (I was told medically). Upon receiving my paperwork it showed a RE-3G with JFY for Adjustment Disorder. As soon as I got home (the day after) I went to the hospital for the sickness, and they said I had a severe case of pneumonia and the early symptoms of the Swine Flu. I am trying to re-enlist in the Air Force or Army Reserves to start (to finish my Bachelor's degree), then look to commission.

What are the chances of getting a waiver for this condition as it was almost 10 years ago. I have since gotten married, had two kids, became a cop for four years, gotten my associates degree, and moved up in my ranks at work significantly. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks all.

Response by Alex N made Jul 15 at 2018 3:01 AM

Alex N — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:01:08 -0400

In addition if you do some research, you will find numerous documents of two dozen or more recruits that were all showing visible symptoms of Swine Flu. I would imagine that this only backs up my story a little bit more.

Thanks again fellas.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2018 3:27 AM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 03:27:12 -0400

Alex N Have all of your paperwork together and talk to a recruiter, who will provide you with the correct answer.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 5:52 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 05:52:31 -0400

Try to elaborate...what undergrad major or majors? Assocs? Bach? Masters? PhD? Field or fields you want? STEM? Anon-STEM? Clinical? Nonclinical? Grades? GPA? I'm asking as I always tend to ask such questions, for career/education questions, call it a conditioned response at this point, I realize you might not care to go into all of it, however, trust me, the more you can send in as a detailed bio sketch, the more I or others might he able to suggest...I realize why you'd wanted to be brief, I get that, however, in such cases, brief isn't always best, honest....I was Army ROTC three years, in scholarship the last two, didn't finish the program, had to apply twice for USAF OTS, got denied once, had to appeal it, got it, had to go through twice to finish it, hot recycled once, plus, I've been around just every single bureaucratic block God and this planet has to offer, honest...so, I do think I might be able to suggest stuff, I just need to know a whole lot more, so far as might be feasible, as I'd said, OK? Let me send this, the tablet here has a habit of conking out a lot....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 5:59 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 05:59:47 -0400

Look at the website eVetRecs for NPRC in St. Louis, parts of NARA, the Natl Archives, fill out the Java applet, ask for both your personnel and medical files, if you don't ask for both explicitly, you'll likely only be sent the personnel one...sigh and date the prinoutq from eVetRecs, for God's sake don't lose the sheet with the reference number on it, then fax it back, and wait a couple of weeks...you should get a letter saying they've got it, and are starting tomdig out your files from their so called reference cores, as they call them...then, in about a month or two, you should get it all, hopefully, it'll be double sided, no way to get them to send single sided, go to a copy place, and get it all converted to single sided, check every single page to make sure they're in the right sequence, do it yourself, do NOT trust it to be done by others...when you're sure you have BOTH files, which should have all the stuff on your illness, take all that to an officer program recruiting office, NOT a regular recruiter, and tell all three Congress offices what you'd want to try to do, sign all three Privacy Act (PAL forms for all three offices, they won't help you till you do, then you'll have to renew them annually, or semiannually if you need more help, that's statutory, trust me, just do it, let me send this....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:02 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:02:23 -0400

And trust me eVetRecs is the proper spelling, honest, look that up as a search term, the Java applet doesn't leave a while lotta space, so you might well need to send a cover letter when you send back the printout form, do NOT forget to send it back, do NOT oose it, or you're gonna have to start all over again, promise, and then give them a month before you call the NPRC switchboard, the operators there should be able to find your request, IF you've got the reference, just make SURE you ask for BOTH files, honest....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:02 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:02:45 -0400

Trust !e, been there, done that (BTDT)....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:03 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:03:00 -0400

Sorry, typo, trust me....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:04 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:04:08 -0400

Now, also, look at USPHS Commissioned Corps, NOAA Commissioned Corps, you do NOT have to be clinical to go USPHS, you can be STEM, NOAA is all STEM....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:05 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:05:37 -0400

Further, what type of civilian work have you dine as tat might be translatable to svc stuff, honest, be as detailed about it as you can, just technical aspects of what you actually did, so far as you can explain, and type of work, otd help to know that to try to help you, honest....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:07 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:07:39 -0400

Next, you might, and I say might, need to petition the USCH Board for Correction of Records, all svcs have them, to fix whatever you'd need fixed, if there's any aggravation in your trying to go back in, whichever svc you'd ultimately get, or range of them...I'm not saying you're gonna need to petition them, I'm only saying it MIGHT be needed...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:09 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:09:09 -0400

Now, IF you have to petition their board, USCG uses USPHS for all their clinical stuff, other than their own internal PAs as you likely already know, so, any petition, as it'd deal with clinical stuff, might have to be referred to USPHS, I'm just saying to expect that possibility, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:12 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:12:22 -0400

Further, boards for correction tale a really, really long time, honest, you've gotta send everything minimum return n receipt, preferably by some type of express or registered main...also, you'll need an attorney to do it, DON'T try to do that stuff yourself, unless it's really, really simple, ehic it doesn't sound as if it is...correction board staff is all pro specialized attorney stuff, it is NOT amateur night, and is NOT for the faint of bureaucratic heart, honest...it takes a LONG, LONG time, REALLY long, honest...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:17 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:17:10 -0400

Now a svc that might want you, depending on MOS or AFSC, if they're short, can MAYBE speed up the whole thing, however, minimum, I'm thinking something like three months IG you're lucky, six months typically, and that's IF the officer program recruiters handling you are good, competent, and diligent, and IF you're REALLY, REALLY patient...I had to wait a couple of months for my waiver for USAF OTS, then I proceeded to bollix the whole thing up, as once you're slated for an OCS or OIS class, you're tused for the deadline to get everything in, and maybe pick where you'd want to be assigned, IF you're given an option, as I was and THTAT is when mistakes can happen, as happened to me...I didn't have clue one what I was doing, and bollixed the whole assignment thing up, aside from going to TOTALLY the wrong recruiter, DESPITE being warned I was making a BIG mistake, IN ADVANCE, I was too STUPID to listen....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:19 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:19:21 -0400

So, I wound up working four years assigned to the TOTALLY the wrong place, working for the wrong people, for all the wrong reasons, when NONE of it had been necessary, had I known what questions to ask, and who to ask, instead of just leaping without looking, doing without asking, and not having been given four or five days to decide where I wanted to spend minimum the next four years...trust me, as I'd said, been there, done that (BTDT), I assure you, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:21 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:21:36 -0400

And I just saw you were police, with an associates...have you done your Bach yet? Grad level at all? I'm assuming you'd want the same when in, I'd gather...it goes beyond which svc, it depends on what organization you'd want, as well, which type of unit, which MOS or AFSC as I'd said, where you'd ask to be assigned, I'd missed tat part in what you'd sent in, I just saw it....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:26 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:26:36 -0400

I know that might be a good deal to absorb, and I realize a good deal of it might've occurred to you, however, I just toutht you might find it all of use, in any event...if you want to go commissioned, I wasn't enlisted first, had I been, of have been far more prepared for functioning in the role, honest...that being said, if you want commissioned, it'd help to have the Bach first, before you'd go in, getting it while you're in, and enlisted, wit two kids, if they're not grown yet, would obv be a major pain...of you're associates, you could ask for warrant, also...if you're computer forensics, ask for Navy cyber warrant, the WO1 level was just reopened for it...I don't know if you'd qualify, however, you could always ask, at least, and for warrant, an associates should, I think, suffice, though, as I'd said, you'd have to ask, as I'm not certain what you'd need for it....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:31 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:31:21 -0400

And you could try for technical warrant in all svcs, I'm unsure if Army MP, USMC MP, or other svcs would allow a warrant, however, you might at least ask, if nothing else, I saw you'd said, you'd been promoted at work, so you never know, you might well have a decent chance, I have no idea how such things work for warrants, though I've read Army WOCS is a pretty rough program...also, any flight interests at all, if tour age is in range? If so, you might want to consider Army rotary wing warrant through their WOCS, as only high school is needed, so at your level of of experience, with an associates, you'd probably have a fairly decent chance, if you're still in age range, depending on vision, though you could ask for Navy/WSO, back seat, as opposed to pilot, I think Army does use nave/WSOs in helicopters....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Jul 15 at 2018 6:32 AM

Capt Daniel Goodman — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:32:36 -0400

Honest, I hope all that at least helps, of you'd care to chat further, I'd be most eager to know more, sorry I'd missed that part of your story initially....

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jul 15 at 2018 6:52 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 06:52:05 -0400

Listen all advice is good advice but you need to speak with a recruiter from every service you are interested in. Thank you for protecting our streets.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 15 at 2018 11:09 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Jul 2018 11:09:32 -0400

If this is something you want to do,you need to go talk to a Recruiter. Normally waivers like this are case by case, so when you as what the chances are, I can’t tell you. When they do your waiver, they will submit everything from when you were discharged. All counselings, sick call visits, notes, everything. It can take some time but it doesn’t start until you go talk with a recruiter. And have all of your documents with you.

Response by Adrian Ruiz made Apr 14 at 2020 11:39 PM

Adrian Ruiz — Tue, 14 Apr 2020 23:39:38 -0400

I wanted to see if you were able to re-enlist or if you were able to get the waiver?

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2020 5:17 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 May 2020 17:17:24 -0400

Did you ever try and get the waiver?