How could MST and SAPR both be used for Disabled Adult Veterans experiencing Sexual Assault in housing? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-could-mst-and-sapr-both-be-used-for-disabled-adult-veterans-experiencing-sexual-assault-in-housing <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a Great American with my mind on WE THE PEOPLE of the Preamble of the Constitution I talk of a mishap that should be corrected<br /><br /><br />I am a proud human American who has a standard for BS that is not much for professional requirements. I was only 18 receiving very small federal compensation with all the requirements of a guided missile frigate. so when I go to the VA and check manuals and compare against actions then I have to call out mishaps.<br /><br />Basically I complained 21 times to VA clinicians that my landlord was sexually harassing assaulting manipulating me. MST Military Sexual Trauma needs a cousin term called CST Civilian Sexual Trauma and associated protections like SAPR Command at the VA. <br /><br />There is even enough evidence that a police report was created after the fact documenting evidence of batter and assault from the landlord. See the police questioned me why the reports were not made earlier, I told them that I had informed the VA, and I was angry that they did not do the report, but I was scared of being homeless and could not self report, alone with no support back then, still living there.<br /><br />See I made the report by myself after I moved out, after I was approved for a homeless housing voucher which took years, denied denied time and time again, because of my enlistment package, even though I had an honorable. How more crazy could it get??<br /><br />There is nothing like SAPR in the civilian world to protect a disabled veteran experiencing sexual assault from a landlord, while the veteran is waiting for benefits to be approved, which might take years in poverty<br /><br />I could of said 49 times with poverty and a MRI diagnosing 3 spine conditions, crying in bed, unable to sleep, my landlord was trying to make me his sexual servant play toy, and I had to work for rent, and he was threatening to kick me out on occasion. <br /><br />SAPR command I believe would investigate complaints, even just the first 1 let alone 21 complaints later, if there was a power play dynamic of a leadership role in landlord tenant or commanding officer junior enlisted that is easily exploited in illegal ways. <br /><br />See I know that these doctors at the VA never would consider being broke homeless uneducated a wreck after military service, and a landlord who was just waiting to try to get their pants off when they were desperate.<br /><br />NO fault there own they wound up at the VA because they got a standard of living to pay their rent fully, start a family, have some pride dignity and ability protect themselves financially etc...<br /><br /><br />I will also consider that they the VA doctors or anyone reading this is completely better then me and more resilient, and I am a mutated weak human, and there are no laws to protect againt me getting criminally assaulted by a landlord, <br /><br />I will also consider that the VA staff I notified 21 times, thought I was a punk and a weak complainer, because they themselves had also experienced to get to the point of being staff at the va the following scenario, 1) extremely abusive torturous educational college experience where the teacher could assault you like on the ship 2) leading to extremely torturous employment where the employer would harass and attack them physically 3) but they still able to succeed they were able to maintain and able to pay rent fully but to a landlord who actually was coming down the stairs to fondle them beyond their desire for years, yet still due resilience they were able to buy a house, start a family, get the love of their kids, all by the time they were mid thirties accomplished.<br /><br /><br />So maybe I was not strong enough or a robo cop enough. I thought I could be a really good Army Guy. it seems the Navy and Army have different recruiting on who spend more on education and training at least during the 1990s. And hence having experienced no A school and a ship experience that I was actually getting destroyed on, (where having a real reserve enlistment assigned to an active duty guided missile frigate in deck department made you a young target of injury due inexperience, unable to know how to pace yourself, always going 1000000 an hour in your head under normal conditions, like running your first long distance race, but at sprint speed, because you don&#39;t know the difference, because your being put on and off the ship, and have to be able to actually adapt and associate with all the full time guys on the ship ( an impossible mission I found out silently confused ) and you get so exhausted...and your are like 20 years old...I attempted a Army transfer due all this Recruiting on how much the Army was spending on the soldiers in education and training and security. So being 22, I had a mid life crisis and attempted the transfer. <br /><br /><br />If I was a girl who walked into the VA stating the same things I am sure it would of been handled different. Since the VA doctors Never gave me ammunition the upper hand on the landlord, then I became sort of accepting. They guy had already let me move in, then was getting sexual on me every day, and now I had to make a choice between that house or go the a homeless shelter.<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/">http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/</a><br /><br /><br /> But back to the housing in civilian life. Imagine if this was your barracks or the Ship berthing. And your e7 could just come down in there and try to get his hands on your every day, and you were much junior, and you froze up, no fault your own, confused, following orders just like bootcamp) But civilian APS investigations, no reports, similar to SAPR in military service. which identify criminal assault in housing by a landlord like similar to living with an abusive leader in barracks or on the ship.<br /><br />So back to the housing. Yes this is cathartic release. Did I like it? No I wish I had a girlfriend a normal life a love a kid, a job. I wish I had a normal female male loving relationship and not living with this guy. I was engaged in the Navy while assigned to the ship. She left me after the Navy Army Transfer fell apart, But I am not even sure she would remember the details of the Navy Army Transfer. We were already almost over. It was hard that I had not been able to feel like I Was going to be that great American Kid who had his act together. I had this ship on my head and a Navy experience that was well taking me into deep water with honor and integrity I pursue.<br /><br />Now I was s37 alone. My mom had passed. She only watched me have problems, since I joined the Navy at 18. Of course there are great guys and ladies in the Navy. <br /><br />There are mistakes. And this is a chance to examine where things could be improved to notice odd things and where leaders can get involved sooner, before a young guy with so much ambition become broken in the streets easily sexually assaulted do to stay off the street. <br /><br />I had hit rock bottom. Rock bottom is having a bad back, nerve issues, and depression 37 years of age and feeling I may have to think that as an adult, I might have to allow a perverted male landlord touch me, but throw him off me if he tried to restrain me, which happened, which would end up in argument, and he would punch me, but he was 20 years older, and I had basically been in a lot of fights, so I was not really scared of him to overwhelm me that way, but he did talk of a gun, but that I was not fearful of on a day to day basis, but I was like thinking of this guy cracked and I stood up for myself then who knows. He was former Navy himself blue water, Vietnam. A tough guy with pride just like myself, but he liked men more than a little. <br /><br />I was also fatherless to the point I grew up most my childhood, with out my actual dad, who was later to be discovered (after my own Navy enlistment ended) was a Vietnam Combat Vet 66-68 Army Infantry who was untreated for some decades suffering from wounds associated to Jungle warfare. So this guy and the Navy represented no matter how abusive a male role model. That is some weird twisted thought. But are there any laws that basically protect a young guy from getting injured in such situation?<br /><br /><br /><br />Ok back to the ship, the reason I would be in the streets used to very terrible beyond normal experiences, in a military experiences, starting at 18, far before I was even fully developed adult, if you can imagine such a duty then you can imagine possibly why I was confused and also why I would take such odd living situations and not even know myself that I was experiencing a federal crime of sexual assault from a landlord(similar to if your company or commanding officer could have power over you and also access to your living conditions to sexually assault you daily) under FEHA Fair Employment Housing Act HUD Housing Urban Development.<br /><br />So as I was desperate, living, in this house, I was in the middle of a 5 year wait for a homeless housing voucher to be awarded. I was in a real reserve Navy enlistment. That is far different then going reserve after active duty. In a real reserve enlistment you get plenty of active duty time but it is all broken up over 8 years. And since I was assigned to a guided missile frigate that would be some injuries and illnesses associated with deck, that I was now in the streets, unable to keep a job, unable to adapt. unable integrate. I guess one can think of being put on a space shuttle monthly for years shot into space spun all around and sent home for a few weeks to basically recover only to be put back on the space shuttle continually for years until you don&#39;t know what is normal. I think it should of no surprise now that in 1998 I was medically disqualified for 3 medical conditions permanent profiled psych spine musculoskeletal to transfer into the Army off the ship. But of course that would not of been investigated and I would never get a fitness for duty exam, and I was put back on the ship with no limited duty, and back on the same duty assignment. I was a good sailor and anything short of death I was not going to give up. But now I can honestly say I was confused and hurting in very serious ways, yet no one really cared or asked, and no professional or officer or leader cared enough to basically do an occupational injury assessment in service and so those same injuries I would fight for years alone with no health insurance because I had a real reserve enlistment, not enough active duty time, and I would find out later I did not have active duty time to qualify for even a homeless veteran housing voucher bluntly. So I now know a guy who got injured in bootcamp getting shin splints marching to much, or falling in PT, or who was active duty for a stint in admin or supply or played in the band would get a housing voucher if he was homeless because of something like carpal tunnel syndrome. But I could not get one because I had done something completely wrong. I signed the wrong enlistment and literally my honorable discharge after 8 years was something I could look at as my landlord was coming down the stairs to try to take my pants off as often as he could because he knew I was confused and I could not move and just like the Navy I was somehow not sure how to defend myself. But the VA was surely not able to put those dots together. And there was no federal or state law that would protect an adult in America. There was no FEHA, No HUD, NO DFEH. There were no laws to protect against landlords trying to sexually assault a tenant in poverty and no options beyond a homeless shelter. (Can you believe that the VA social workers let me walk myself out of even knowing I was a victim of a crime by saying because I denied even thinking I wanted to go to a homeless shelter, and instead going back to the housing I was complaining, that somehow not a victim of these things(but they never informed me there are laws that protect against this ( they never gave me ammunition to feel I had any leverage in housing against a perverted lonely landlord who found a vulnerable guy on his last)<br /><br /><br />Now they talk morphine type medications, something to relax someone naturally like organic and I am really open to this, and other things that may be pure plant medicine. I am not opposed to pure plant medicine. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/539/584/qrc/1_cover_Aaron.jpg?1596129059"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/">The Story of a Homeless Veteran Who Fell Through the Cracks - Veterans Coming Home</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">There are about 47,725 homeless veterans in the United States on any given night, according to the U.S. Department of…(more)</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:10:59 -0400 How could MST and SAPR both be used for Disabled Adult Veterans experiencing Sexual Assault in housing? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-could-mst-and-sapr-both-be-used-for-disabled-adult-veterans-experiencing-sexual-assault-in-housing <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a Great American with my mind on WE THE PEOPLE of the Preamble of the Constitution I talk of a mishap that should be corrected<br /><br /><br />I am a proud human American who has a standard for BS that is not much for professional requirements. I was only 18 receiving very small federal compensation with all the requirements of a guided missile frigate. so when I go to the VA and check manuals and compare against actions then I have to call out mishaps.<br /><br />Basically I complained 21 times to VA clinicians that my landlord was sexually harassing assaulting manipulating me. MST Military Sexual Trauma needs a cousin term called CST Civilian Sexual Trauma and associated protections like SAPR Command at the VA. <br /><br />There is even enough evidence that a police report was created after the fact documenting evidence of batter and assault from the landlord. See the police questioned me why the reports were not made earlier, I told them that I had informed the VA, and I was angry that they did not do the report, but I was scared of being homeless and could not self report, alone with no support back then, still living there.<br /><br />See I made the report by myself after I moved out, after I was approved for a homeless housing voucher which took years, denied denied time and time again, because of my enlistment package, even though I had an honorable. How more crazy could it get??<br /><br />There is nothing like SAPR in the civilian world to protect a disabled veteran experiencing sexual assault from a landlord, while the veteran is waiting for benefits to be approved, which might take years in poverty<br /><br />I could of said 49 times with poverty and a MRI diagnosing 3 spine conditions, crying in bed, unable to sleep, my landlord was trying to make me his sexual servant play toy, and I had to work for rent, and he was threatening to kick me out on occasion. <br /><br />SAPR command I believe would investigate complaints, even just the first 1 let alone 21 complaints later, if there was a power play dynamic of a leadership role in landlord tenant or commanding officer junior enlisted that is easily exploited in illegal ways. <br /><br />See I know that these doctors at the VA never would consider being broke homeless uneducated a wreck after military service, and a landlord who was just waiting to try to get their pants off when they were desperate.<br /><br />NO fault there own they wound up at the VA because they got a standard of living to pay their rent fully, start a family, have some pride dignity and ability protect themselves financially etc...<br /><br /><br />I will also consider that they the VA doctors or anyone reading this is completely better then me and more resilient, and I am a mutated weak human, and there are no laws to protect againt me getting criminally assaulted by a landlord, <br /><br />I will also consider that the VA staff I notified 21 times, thought I was a punk and a weak complainer, because they themselves had also experienced to get to the point of being staff at the va the following scenario, 1) extremely abusive torturous educational college experience where the teacher could assault you like on the ship 2) leading to extremely torturous employment where the employer would harass and attack them physically 3) but they still able to succeed they were able to maintain and able to pay rent fully but to a landlord who actually was coming down the stairs to fondle them beyond their desire for years, yet still due resilience they were able to buy a house, start a family, get the love of their kids, all by the time they were mid thirties accomplished.<br /><br /><br />So maybe I was not strong enough or a robo cop enough. I thought I could be a really good Army Guy. it seems the Navy and Army have different recruiting on who spend more on education and training at least during the 1990s. And hence having experienced no A school and a ship experience that I was actually getting destroyed on, (where having a real reserve enlistment assigned to an active duty guided missile frigate in deck department made you a young target of injury due inexperience, unable to know how to pace yourself, always going 1000000 an hour in your head under normal conditions, like running your first long distance race, but at sprint speed, because you don&#39;t know the difference, because your being put on and off the ship, and have to be able to actually adapt and associate with all the full time guys on the ship ( an impossible mission I found out silently confused ) and you get so exhausted...and your are like 20 years old...I attempted a Army transfer due all this Recruiting on how much the Army was spending on the soldiers in education and training and security. So being 22, I had a mid life crisis and attempted the transfer. <br /><br /><br />If I was a girl who walked into the VA stating the same things I am sure it would of been handled different. Since the VA doctors Never gave me ammunition the upper hand on the landlord, then I became sort of accepting. They guy had already let me move in, then was getting sexual on me every day, and now I had to make a choice between that house or go the a homeless shelter.<br /><a target="_blank" href="http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/">http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/</a><br /><br /><br /> But back to the housing in civilian life. Imagine if this was your barracks or the Ship berthing. And your e7 could just come down in there and try to get his hands on your every day, and you were much junior, and you froze up, no fault your own, confused, following orders just like bootcamp) But civilian APS investigations, no reports, similar to SAPR in military service. which identify criminal assault in housing by a landlord like similar to living with an abusive leader in barracks or on the ship.<br /><br />So back to the housing. Yes this is cathartic release. Did I like it? No I wish I had a girlfriend a normal life a love a kid, a job. I wish I had a normal female male loving relationship and not living with this guy. I was engaged in the Navy while assigned to the ship. She left me after the Navy Army Transfer fell apart, But I am not even sure she would remember the details of the Navy Army Transfer. We were already almost over. It was hard that I had not been able to feel like I Was going to be that great American Kid who had his act together. I had this ship on my head and a Navy experience that was well taking me into deep water with honor and integrity I pursue.<br /><br />Now I was s37 alone. My mom had passed. She only watched me have problems, since I joined the Navy at 18. Of course there are great guys and ladies in the Navy. <br /><br />There are mistakes. And this is a chance to examine where things could be improved to notice odd things and where leaders can get involved sooner, before a young guy with so much ambition become broken in the streets easily sexually assaulted do to stay off the street. <br /><br />I had hit rock bottom. Rock bottom is having a bad back, nerve issues, and depression 37 years of age and feeling I may have to think that as an adult, I might have to allow a perverted male landlord touch me, but throw him off me if he tried to restrain me, which happened, which would end up in argument, and he would punch me, but he was 20 years older, and I had basically been in a lot of fights, so I was not really scared of him to overwhelm me that way, but he did talk of a gun, but that I was not fearful of on a day to day basis, but I was like thinking of this guy cracked and I stood up for myself then who knows. He was former Navy himself blue water, Vietnam. A tough guy with pride just like myself, but he liked men more than a little. <br /><br />I was also fatherless to the point I grew up most my childhood, with out my actual dad, who was later to be discovered (after my own Navy enlistment ended) was a Vietnam Combat Vet 66-68 Army Infantry who was untreated for some decades suffering from wounds associated to Jungle warfare. So this guy and the Navy represented no matter how abusive a male role model. That is some weird twisted thought. But are there any laws that basically protect a young guy from getting injured in such situation?<br /><br /><br /><br />Ok back to the ship, the reason I would be in the streets used to very terrible beyond normal experiences, in a military experiences, starting at 18, far before I was even fully developed adult, if you can imagine such a duty then you can imagine possibly why I was confused and also why I would take such odd living situations and not even know myself that I was experiencing a federal crime of sexual assault from a landlord(similar to if your company or commanding officer could have power over you and also access to your living conditions to sexually assault you daily) under FEHA Fair Employment Housing Act HUD Housing Urban Development.<br /><br />So as I was desperate, living, in this house, I was in the middle of a 5 year wait for a homeless housing voucher to be awarded. I was in a real reserve Navy enlistment. That is far different then going reserve after active duty. In a real reserve enlistment you get plenty of active duty time but it is all broken up over 8 years. And since I was assigned to a guided missile frigate that would be some injuries and illnesses associated with deck, that I was now in the streets, unable to keep a job, unable to adapt. unable integrate. I guess one can think of being put on a space shuttle monthly for years shot into space spun all around and sent home for a few weeks to basically recover only to be put back on the space shuttle continually for years until you don&#39;t know what is normal. I think it should of no surprise now that in 1998 I was medically disqualified for 3 medical conditions permanent profiled psych spine musculoskeletal to transfer into the Army off the ship. But of course that would not of been investigated and I would never get a fitness for duty exam, and I was put back on the ship with no limited duty, and back on the same duty assignment. I was a good sailor and anything short of death I was not going to give up. But now I can honestly say I was confused and hurting in very serious ways, yet no one really cared or asked, and no professional or officer or leader cared enough to basically do an occupational injury assessment in service and so those same injuries I would fight for years alone with no health insurance because I had a real reserve enlistment, not enough active duty time, and I would find out later I did not have active duty time to qualify for even a homeless veteran housing voucher bluntly. So I now know a guy who got injured in bootcamp getting shin splints marching to much, or falling in PT, or who was active duty for a stint in admin or supply or played in the band would get a housing voucher if he was homeless because of something like carpal tunnel syndrome. But I could not get one because I had done something completely wrong. I signed the wrong enlistment and literally my honorable discharge after 8 years was something I could look at as my landlord was coming down the stairs to try to take my pants off as often as he could because he knew I was confused and I could not move and just like the Navy I was somehow not sure how to defend myself. But the VA was surely not able to put those dots together. And there was no federal or state law that would protect an adult in America. There was no FEHA, No HUD, NO DFEH. There were no laws to protect against landlords trying to sexually assault a tenant in poverty and no options beyond a homeless shelter. (Can you believe that the VA social workers let me walk myself out of even knowing I was a victim of a crime by saying because I denied even thinking I wanted to go to a homeless shelter, and instead going back to the housing I was complaining, that somehow not a victim of these things(but they never informed me there are laws that protect against this ( they never gave me ammunition to feel I had any leverage in housing against a perverted lonely landlord who found a vulnerable guy on his last)<br /><br /><br />Now they talk morphine type medications, something to relax someone naturally like organic and I am really open to this, and other things that may be pure plant medicine. I am not opposed to pure plant medicine. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/539/584/qrc/1_cover_Aaron.jpg?1596129059"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://veteranscominghome.org/station_media/the-story-of-a-homeless-veteran-who-fell-through-the-cracks/">The Story of a Homeless Veteran Who Fell Through the Cracks - Veterans Coming Home</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">There are about 47,725 homeless veterans in the United States on any given night, according to the U.S. Department of…(more)</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> PO3 Aaron Hassay Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:10:59 -0400 2020-07-30T13:10:59-04:00 Response by SFC Michael D. made Jul 30 at 2020 4:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/how-could-mst-and-sapr-both-be-used-for-disabled-adult-veterans-experiencing-sexual-assault-in-housing?n=6158667&urlhash=6158667 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For us old Soldiers, what is MST and SAPR? SFC Michael D. Thu, 30 Jul 2020 16:27:22 -0400 2020-07-30T16:27:22-04:00 2020-07-30T13:10:59-04:00