How can someone seek help to get out of a unit?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 17:42:52 -0400

Hey

Response by SSG Joe Ann Bess made Aug 6 at 2016 5:51 PM

SSG Joe Ann Bess — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 17:51:20 -0400

This person is probably showing these symptoms and actions because of what is being done and he needs assistance. Rape, in any form is against the law. Be a true human being and help him, or be a coward with no conscious.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 6:02 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 18:02:19 -0400

It sounds like there isn't much support in his COC and IF that truly is the case then refer the matter to IG. They will launch an investigation and the parties who are really at fault will pay the consequences. You're not doing your friend any good by not reporting this. The army takes sharp very serious and as a soldier you are required to report all sharp related incidences. That is your duty. So you even knowing this information means that you need to report it as well even if this isn't happening in your unit.

Response by SSG Jeremy Sharp made Aug 6 at 2016 6:10 PM

SSG Jeremy Sharp — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 18:10:30 -0400

James needs to seek professional mental health treatment. The fact that this rape bothers him more than the victim speaks volumes. The Article 15 is not his savior as it will probably include a suspension of favorable action for the duration which could prevent advancement, transfer and reenlistment. If he is a great person but a marginal soldier then there is a distinct possibility that the chain of command is not recommending him for promotion in order to discharge him. There is a draw down in forces, supposedly and marginal won't make the muster in that environment. Transfer is not a right, it is a privilege, if the command sees him as a "problem" they will separate him not transfer him.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 6:47 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 18:47:31 -0400

If he's not willing to come forward to Chain of Command or IG then you could speak with the IG as a third party. Ultimately their hands will be tied if James doesn't want to cooperate but I'll buy you lunch if this is an isolated incident and/or there is not a lot of cover up that an investigation won't reveal. James may be hiding, but this is tough stuff to cover up and hide behind. Good luck.

Response by CPT Mark Gonzalez made Aug 6 at 2016 7:06 PM

CPT Mark Gonzalez — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 19:06:05 -0400

Based upon what was written have your friend or yourself seek mental health treatment. When everyone is messed up, but the individual that is a huge red flag. You said they already see mental health. So the question becomes what makes you think you are more qualified than the provider? Is it because your friend is completely honest or untruthful to them, but somehow you have all the info and no one is misinforming you. That isn't logical as you are subject to a lot of misinformation yourself. You are either being suckered by your friend or assuming you know a lot more than you do. If you want to help the person recognize that they are deeply troubled and not everything they say can be taken at face value. They need help and you are not a mental health professional, but can be a friend. So you cannot be everything to everyone and you also cannot assume that everyone involved is an idiot with bad intentions, but somehow you are seeing what everyone else is missing.

If your buddy claims to have witnessed a sexual assault, chances are high that he is actually the victim. He can be transferred very rapidly as a SHARP victim and all he has to do is a restricted report and request a transfer.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 11:59 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 23:59:51 -0400

"James" needs to get help. MFLC, behavioral health, chaplain, or Simone to listen. If he doesn't want to report it there's nothing that you can do but be a supportive friend and see that he gets help. As for his unit troubles there's nothing that you can do about that if he wants to move he will need to report it.

Response by SSgt David Tedrow made Aug 7 at 2016 12:14 AM

SSgt David Tedrow — Sun, 07 Aug 2016 00:14:22 -0400

There is nothing you can do by helping him "hide' all that has happened to him.. Without a so called victim you do not have a real issue. "James" needs to be the one to decide to deal with the issues if he wants to, if not, then it is his problem to shoulder and not yours.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2016 2:14 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Aug 2016 14:14:22 -0400

IG. Call them. File a report. He's a witness, so he can report it (and should). IG will have him moved to a different unit to protect his integrity and his person

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Aug 9 at 2016 4:03 PM

SPC Christopher Perrien — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:03:39 -0400

WHatever this issue/events were or were not. Sounds like James" himself is not good soldier material and needs to get out or be put out of the military, rather than be transferred. The first event and subsequent "stuff" sounds like a bunch of BS concocted by some nut. And stay aways from this person as you definitely don't want to be connected with this 'drama".

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2016 10:38 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Aug 2016 22:38:32 -0400

SGM Erik Marquez Please delete as most of these issues have been resolved or are in the process of being handled