How can I get my platoon sergeant off my back when I haven't been doing anything wrong?

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 12:36 PM

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LOL, what?

Edit: Maybe you need to show him your stress card.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 12:46 PM

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Serious? That is what a PSG does. However, for him/her to be getting into your butt, you are either doing something really wrong or he/she is micromanaging. It's the Platoon Sergeant's job to drive the SLs, who in turn drive the TLs. Your TL should be making you miserable by getting into your business on a daily basis. Maybe you should discuss with your TL about why the PSG is really even speaking to you, other than an on-the-spot correction here and there. When I was enlisted, I hardly ever spoke to my PSG and if I saw him, I turned and walked the other way. When I was a PL, I enforced the Chain of Command and if a Soldier was getting special attention from the PSG, it was usually for a really good reason.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 12:48 PM

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Simple. Just say "Roger or Yes/No SGT", and move out!

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 17 at 2015 12:50 PM

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Do you know how many times I have heard the same question from a Soldier? I can't count that high! What if told you that its not what you are "not doing" but it is what you need to do? I don't know your situation, and you didn't provide much information so its hard to say what might help you. Here are some thing that young Soldiers should be doing: Army Correspondant Courses aka Skillport, studying the FMs, ARs and getting ready for a Soldier of the Month board, volunteering to lead the warm up and cool down periods of PT, GT score improvement, and doing what needs to be done before being told. I hope I have helped you out.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Apr 17 at 2015 12:51 PM

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By working really hard to demonstrate a positive attitude while working your butt off. Try it for just a week, straight. Positive, can do-easy attitude, hard work at meeting and exceeding platoon sergeant's expectations. Then notice how your life just got better.

Response by 1LT Nick Kidwell made Apr 17 at 2015 12:56 PM

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I can only presume from your title and lack of detail that you might have a proclivity for complaining, and if that is the case, I would eliminate that from your repertoire altogether.

If you have a LEGITIMATE complaint, such as illegal activity or something that is against regs, then bring it up to your CoC.

Otherwise, just do your job and soldier on.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 1:08 PM

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If you are at Gordon...some of your future PSGs might be reading this....AKA...me...

I hope you were at an internet café and left your profile logged and this is a prank your battle pulled on you... How many soldiers have your name...just saying, sunshine...

***UPDATE***
***His PSG was thrilled to find out about this. Fort Gordon has a phone book...Who Knew...*****

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 1:14 PM

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Define not doing anything wrong. But, my question (and honestly, with a slight snicker of humor) what are you doing right?

Response by SPC Angel Guma made Apr 17 at 2015 2:09 PM

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You are either doing something they dislike, or you are doing nothing wrong but they dislike you for private reasons.

You will never know the truth. Army culture though will always take the word of the higher ranking. Before you assume its #2, stop and really think things through. Are you honestly doing things that are irritating or pissing them off? Watch your body language. Don't project disrespect. Even if you are doing things fine and you feel he's coming down hard on you for no apparent reason, it could be for reasons like that- are you projecting disrespect where none was intended? The Army is a cliquish culture, so people do unfortunately get picked to be bullied on for no reason, but, that's not as prevalent as you think and honestly the PSG will say he has his reasons. You can project professionalism beyond your years by honestly trying to take his point of view into consideration. Even if its true that he's dogging you for no reason, many times people will respect you more for not taking it personally.

Again- just try to think things out. The simplest solutions are usually the best. If it turns out after all the facts are weighed (fairly and honestly by you), just yes sir, roger sir, lock it up, and don't give them reasons to nag you all the more.

Most importantly, don't put things on social media sites! Always keep issues with the chain of command with only those who need to know, and if you have to go outside that chain of command for whatever reason, stick to the old methods. You have a chaplain, try that. But don't go posting things on facebook or rallypoint. You are painting a bull's eye on your body when you do that.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 2:24 PM

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Stop take one second pay attention to the things you do and see your friends or battle buddies opinion on you. If they said you not really doing anything wrong then stand up to him. But check your self first before assuming something like that

Response by SGT Dave Oman made Apr 17 at 2015 2:31 PM

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Maybe it's not what you've done, but what you should be doing

Response by CPL John Peterson made Apr 17 at 2015 2:32 PM

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Sqaure yourself away and respond to commands with tanacity, respect and motivation!

Response by Lt Col Jim Coe made Apr 17 at 2015 2:34 PM

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Find out from your team leader (immediate supervisor) what right looks like. Do it consistently without complaining. Odds are good the folks up the chain will move on to the next problem

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 2:48 PM

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Apologies for being vague, but without more information, it is difficult to guide you in the right direction.

It may just feel like this to you because the military is, based on your rank, still new to you. ("New" can happen for a few years.) I do not intend to demean your rank nor your years in service, but we all have been there and been hemmed up. It can be overwhelming.

Please share some detail and we can help get you into a Win-win situation. Message me if you want more discretion.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Apr 17 at 2015 2:49 PM

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Communication breakdown. If you are getting slammed for things you didn't do, there are mitigating factors.....
You are messing up
Your leadership is messing up
Breakdown in communication (you are not doing what you should be doing because you are uncertain, etc)

VERY few people just go to work to yell at someone else for no good reason. Time to have a pow wow and get to the heart of the problem for EVERYONE's benefit. You gave us nothing to work with with this question. Don't ask us what the problem is, ask the leadership and find the solution. If doing nothing gets bad results, time to do something to change the end result. Good luck.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 3:13 PM

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Be an example... Of what is right! Stay out of childish conversations, remove yourself from bad apples, be in the right place at the right time in the appropriate uniform! Simply put... Be more like a leader!

Not sure what you did of are doing to deserve "whatever", but perception in the Army is a killer. Also, if he is jacked up try utilizing your organizations open-door policy to seek advice.

Response by SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. made Apr 17 at 2015 3:55 PM

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Not to be too cheeky, but isn't "on your back" sort of the default position for Sargents?

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Apr 17 at 2015 3:59 PM

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Instead of worrying go and talk to him in a respectful manner.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 4:05 PM

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WE ALL HAD TO PAY OUR DUES! It is part of life and the day you supervise and a subordinate gets on your nerves, just remember today!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 4:13 PM

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It's pretty disrespectful to go behind your platoon sergeants back like this and make this kind of situation public. Now he really won't hold off on you because now he can't trust you. Be a man, confront him in a respectful, calm manner and ask him why...that's all! Not be all sneaky and get caught posting stuff about it ....

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 4:30 PM

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PFC... Talk to your PSG. It is just as much your responsibility to understand his/her expectations as it is for him/her to communicate those expectations.

Communication is a cornerstone to a successful military career.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 6:19 PM

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Utilize open door policy and talk to him, and ask him why he treats you the way he does. Maybe you're that guy he sees potential in, but you do the bare minimums or could do better. If that doesn't work and he's a poor NCO (unfortunately those do exist) talk to your 1SG about switching platoons/sections. Good luck!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 6:32 PM

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In your eyes you might not be doing anything wrong. However, most of us PSG's don't ride someones back for shits and giggles as there is something that is causing him to do it. Remember, perception is 9/10ths of the law in the military. You could just be standing around doing nothing, which you should be. Without further information not much anyone on here can help you with. Talk with your SL to find out what you are doing wrong....he would know (i would assume he would as that is what he gets paid to do). If you cannot get answers from your SL or PSG, use the 1SG's open door policy. Better have your story straight or he will read through the bull. If you are bs'ing than be ready for what comes!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 6:48 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member, if you're an AIT student, you're still in the "crawl" phase of being a Soldier. It's the PSG's job to develop and mold you, and sometimes that requires getting on your back. You're only there for a few months, so don't sweat it! Just be respectful, always answer with a "Roger, Sergeant", and move out.

Response by MSG David Chappell made Apr 17 at 2015 8:42 PM

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I remember accepting every crappy duty every demanding assignment and being on the short list (24 hours notice) for schools. I went through 9 schools volunteered for deployments and recruiting duty. Volunteered for Drill Sgt. My superiors became my peers and soon my subordinates. That's how you voice displeasure.

Response by SSG Leonard Johnson made Apr 17 at 2015 9:15 PM

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dude number one year Pfc. he's not going to get off your back until maybe one year into your specialist rank, it would always help also to change political views to a right wing conservative View...do not listen to googly Ga music.... only man up music like 80's 90s rock or acid rock.... don't be a health nut...always pray for war and kill for peace..... if you're downtown and get in a bar room fight make sure you win

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 9:37 PM

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If you need any help man, I'll try to help you as best I can. PM me.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2015 10:37 PM

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After this post, your team leader is who you're going to need off your back.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2015 12:33 AM

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Self-awareness is the first step to understanding. Experience says that it is unlikely you've "done nothing wrong". Pay close attention to your actions, reference them against the Army Values and the behaviors and performance of your peers.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2015 11:39 AM

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Not all PSGs have the same leadership style. He must have his reasons whether you are lacking in a particular area such as showing initiative, youve been late several time or maybe its a good reason as in he might see potential in you that your not taking advantage of. Whichever it may be you cant go wrong with stepping up, taking initiative and working harder then you may have been. Right place, right uniform, right time and right attitude will get you far.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2015 6:40 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member Now had I seen this question yesterday, I would have had you to meet me at the Fort Gordon PX food court and I more than likely could have provided you some answers before we finished.

Since that didn't happen, your questions leaves too many other questions not answered before anyone can give you an answer. Such as, what specifically is your PSG on your back about; Is it one thing, several, or everything. Each one of these can lead to a slightly different answer.

If you would provide some more info, then we can get into what you need to do to get your PSG off your back. Ball is in your court!

Response by SSG John Jensen made Apr 18 at 2015 9:16 PM

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being weird is the best defense, and when you become the weird guy, glory in it

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2015 11:13 PM

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Some things to think about. Are you doing what you are supposed to be doing? Great. But thats not enough. You are embarking on the first leg of a long journey. You must achieve what ncos hate. Potential. Do you know what that is? Its the stuff you are capable of but are not doing. Max out! Right now, you have nothing but time. You got 3 hots and a cot. Beat the crap out of military stuff. On time for formation? Show up early. Pass PT? Try to max it. Be an asset not a liability . Lastly remember this. If the fist person you meet in the morning is an ass, they are probly an ass. If everyone you meet that day is an ass, maybe your an ass. Dont be an ass. Good luck and hang in there

Response by PO3 John Jeter made Apr 19 at 2015 12:19 AM

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It's not usually a good idea to go outside the unit for help with an internal difficulty. From the responses I'm seeing, I'm sure you're aware of that by now. I'm quite certain your Platoon Sergeant was less than pleased to receive a call from an outsider about a problem inside his unit. I would have thought you would have better benefitted from being advised on internal resources available to help deal with this difficulty. Personally, I would have a 'sit down' and ask what you need to do to get off the 'defecation roster'. Your part in this equation is to demonstrate to the command structure that you wish to do better and show your desire to be a good troop. I believe you have some speed bumps in front of you right now, but there's nothing you can't overcome with some effort and a good attitude. Good luck!

Response by COL Charles Williams made Apr 19 at 2015 2:22 AM

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We need more details. NCOs are supposed to be in your business. Checking, does not mean you are doing anything wrong. Chances are if your PSG is doing something, there is a reason.

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 9:52 AM

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Honestly, you may never be able to do so. The important thing is you don't take it personal; study, follow directions, and keep promoting. Eventually they, or you, will PCS. I had a similar problem when I was a PFC and they held up me SPEC promotion for a year. Eventually he PCS'd and I moved on. Hang in there and focus on your self-development and Army career. Eventually someone else will be a better target, and you can mentor them.

Response by MSgt Manuel Diaz made Apr 19 at 2015 11:18 AM

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Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want. Communicate as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings sadness and drama. Speak with integrity. Avoid using the words to speak against your self or to gossip about others. And don't take anything personally.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 12:16 PM

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By ETSing.. If that isn't soon enough I'm sure your Platoon Sergeant can guide you in speeding up the process.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 12:17 PM

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More information is definitely needed if you are seeking advice, however as a platoon sergeant, I would recommend that you start taking initiative and begin setting yourself apart from your peers in a positive manner. Sometimes "not doing anything wrong," i.e. just doing enough to get by really gets to us because we honestly want you to be the best. If this doesn't apply to you how about using your NCO support channel to find out what's going on, what you're doing wrong, and how you can fix it.

Response by SSG Dave Rogers made Apr 19 at 2015 12:50 PM

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Unless you know all of the military regulations front and back you can never be 100% sure you are not doing something wrong or right.

I see it as two options:

1. Talk to your Platoon Sergeant. Do not be offensive, don't ask why he or she is on your back. Simply tell them you are looking to improve yourself and would like some guidance on how to advance and better yourself as a soldier.

2. Continue to think your Platoon Sergeant has something against you and hope you survive until you are reassigned.

I always took my Platoon Sergeants as trying to motivate me to improve myself and become a better soldier and future leader. If you can not find a way to fix this with professionalism how can you expect to be a good leader in the future?

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Apr 19 at 2015 4:38 PM

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I am glad you asked actually. I will give you a thumbs up after posting. I tell privates if they don't know just ask an NCO.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Apr 19 at 2015 6:03 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member , due to your lack of any background information you had to expect a lot of negative reactions.

Especially as an IT specialist you should know better than to be putting something like this out on the Internet where other Soldiers can easily track you down.

You may have a legitimate gripe, but your lack of supporting information and the fact that you put it out on the Internet instead of seeking out offline help (like talking to your unit Chaplain) left you ripe for retaliation.

Now with that being said, it would probably be best if you deleted this post.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 6:49 PM

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Speak to your PSG privately; stand tall, look them in the eye, and ask directly.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 6:52 PM

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Only reason your Plt Sgt would be on your case is if you did something wrong or you were tasked to do something and it didn't get completed. You could tactfully ask him what is going on and that you feel like you are in trouble for something and have no idea for what. Check your counseling statements.

Response by PO1 John Miller made Apr 19 at 2015 8:14 PM

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Some pretty sound advice here PFC. Use your chain of command and make sure you know what's REALLY going on.

Let me relate a little story here. Shortly before I retired from the Navy, I walked into my shop one morning, where I was the LPO (Leading Petty Officer). I'm not sure what position that is equivalent to in the Army, but it's usually the second leadership position, just above Work Center Supervisor.

Anyway, as I walked in, an E-1 who had just reported aboard a few weeks prior was already there. She looked up to see who it was, saw me and said "Morning Miller." I stopped and asked her "Am I your friend or your buddy?" Her: "No." Me: "Who am I to you?" Her: "You're my LPO." Me: "What is my rank?" Her: "Petty Officer First Class." Me: "How were you taught to address Petty Officers in Boot Camp and A school?" Her: "Either Petty Officer or by their rate and rank." Me: So what the FUCK makes you think you can address me by just my last name???" Her: "Uh..." Me: "The only answer I expect to hear from you is "Yes Petty Officer or yes IT1. Is that clear?"" Her (and by then she had started frigging crying): "Yes Petty Officer!"

A few hours later my Chief (E-7) asked me, "Hey, did you make SR Cox cry?" Me: "Yes, because she thought it was okay to address me by just my last name. Did she come running to you about it?" Chief: "No, her Work Center Supervisor did." Me: "Roger that Chief. May I be excused so I can go chew his ass out for not using the Chain of Command?" Chief: "Don't worry about it, I already did. I told him to never come to me with bullshit like that again without going through you first."

My point here is to make you understand not only how the Chain of Command works, but to realize that it's not just about you. Maybe your PSG is "on your back" because they feel you're not performing up to snuff and you're taking it as a personal insult rather than constructive criticism. This is the United States military, not high school.

Response by BG David Fleming III made Apr 19 at 2015 8:31 PM

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Remember when you point the figure at someone else, you got four pointing back at you!

Response by CAPT Douglas McDonald made Apr 19 at 2015 9:09 PM

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But have you been doing anything right?? In his eyes??

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 9:45 PM

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If you want to become a better Soldier to get your PSG off you back I would say you are on the right track and good luck. If you just him off you back just because, buckle up buttercup.

Several things come to mind. First, there can be a perception gap between a PSG and a PFC - when you perceive you aren't doing anything wrong and him being on your back can sometimes be nothing more than him just helping you - you just can't understand or appreciate it - yet. Another possibility, when I was a PSG I only spent time working with PFC's I saw potential in. I'm curious how you and your SQL get along.

Response by SGT Richard Ellis made Apr 19 at 2015 9:45 PM

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Since you say you haven't done anything wrong, What is he "accusing you of doing"?

Response by CMDCM Gene Treants made Apr 19 at 2015 10:12 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member there is so much advise here,if you have read 10% of it you must be going nuts. I do believe you have discovered one truth though, although this seems to be a social network, and it is for many of us (those who have completed our Active Duty Service), if you are still serving there is a chance you Chain-of-Command may see what you say and react to it as has happened here.

You say you have not been doing anything wrong? Okay, maybe you have not, but have you been giving your Platoon Sergeant all of your true ability? As a leader I expect 100% performance from my troops not just "not doing anything wrong." As you rise in grade you will find that your leadership expects even more.

Just "not doing anything wrong" is an insult to yourself and your team. Having read a few of your posts and comments in the past, I expect more from you. So, my advice to you, get off your ass and live up to your full potential. Stop trying to skate and take charge of your life and career (no matter how long or short).

Response by SSG Warren Hall made Apr 19 at 2015 10:19 PM

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I know that I posted this earlier in response to another post, but I am going to re-post it again, in case some did not see it...

Regardless, after rising up the chain then falling on my face a few times, I do believe that PFC Yeates should have pursued this through his chain of Command. Easiest way to find out what you are doing wrong is to ask "What am I doing wrong", probably should have done this before posting on here, but without praising nor degrading anyone I think that a little Constructive Criticism would be in order. Whether or not he should or should not have posted this is a mute subject now, it has been done, for better or for worse. I do not think that SSG Hays should have said some of his comments, but instead, should have had this chat with him outside this forum. Whether or not he should have brought it to the attention of his PSG that was his call, I can't say I would have done the same, but to each his own. I agree with some of the comments that some have put, I have also disagreed with some of the comments. Sometimes a little "Tough Love" is in order and sometimes it is not. The only way we learn is by trial and error. I personally do not believe that PFC Yeates should get corporal punishment for this but I do believe he should be counseled on it. There are after all, right and wrong ways to do things, and we all learn by our mistakes, that is what makes us better soldiers.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2015 11:36 PM

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Want some real advice buttercup. Suck it up! Your a PFC! Bottom of the barrel. I been in your shoes, everyone higher rank than you have! And the only reasons a PSG is taking to you is because, 1. You are ate up. Or 2. You have a serious personal matter going on! Just do as your told, don't ask questions and strive to be better than you're peers! And please refrain from asking advice or talking about your leadership on a god damn military social media site! Stupidest thing you could ever do. Because I can bet anything he was informed of this within a few hours of you posting. So again just do as your told, don't cry about it, hold you're head high and execute everything you do 100% or better. Then you'll never have to ask for advice about you're god damn senior NCO getting in you're ass!!

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Apr 19 at 2015 11:42 PM

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Not doing anything wrong doesn't mean you're doing anything right either. You want your PSG on your back. If he's on it, then he'll have it.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 8:24 AM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member, I will give it a shot with what limited information you provided. I will refrain from repeating what others have said, unless it fits my points.
1. Platoon Sergeants get in a Soldiers grill for several reasons, not all of which are negative. If you were in trouble, I doubt that you would be unclear on why he was getting "on your back". Have you considered that the PSG may be trying to get you to realize your potential? Motivating has many forms.
2. Consider carefully your own actions. Are you a positive contributer to the team? Do you execute swiftly and promptly your orders or do you whine and complain? Not saying it is right, but few NCOs tolerate well complaining about routine orders. Don't be that guy. Get after tasks quickly and expertly and I guarantee your NCOs will not be "on your back".
3. There should be at least two, maybe more links in the Chain-of-Command before PSG guy is going directly to you. If you are unclear where the problem lies, get with your Team Leader. Undoubtedly, the PSG has had that conversation with at least your Squad Leader. Let them do their job and coach you through this patch of your career. Your success is their success. As a First Sergeant, I reserve the right to go directly to any Soldier in my company, but I want my subordinate leaders to engage fully and solve the problem at the lowest level. I am there to mentor THEM just as much as the PFC in the crosshairs.

One more thing. Seeking advice is a mark of maturity. If you want it to be effective, make sure you give us enough to focus on the issue at hand.
Good luck.

Response by LCpl Christopher Giordano made Apr 20 at 2015 8:55 AM

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Show some initiative. Don, t wait to be told to take care of a situation.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 9:33 AM

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Here are my tips to success: Pass your PT test, pass your ranges, become an expert and professional in your chosen MOS and execute your orders without question with expedience. You will never have a problem.

Response by SrA Daniel Hunter made Apr 20 at 2015 10:23 AM

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Next time he/she is on your back, ask them. I had a Master Sergeant when I was in that was constantly belittling junior enlisted. Not because they had done anything wrong but because he wanted a response. In my case, he wanted to see if we could and would defend ourselves (tactfully). Once we did, he was like any other other Senior NCO.

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Apr 20 at 2015 10:36 AM

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@PFC Randall Yeates - Not knowing any more than your brief post and considering the differences in rank, a solution gets a little tricky
1. Are there any counseling statements? If not, see suggestion #2
2. What's he on your back for? If it's everything and anything, that just suggests he doesn't like you and you MIGHT have to live with it. You might also consider talking to your Team Leader or Squad Leader to quietly find out what burr is under the PSG's saddle. Lastly, consider you might be taking the shots, but they're aimed at your Squad or Team Leader.
Absent any further information, PFC, I'm black on ammo

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Apr 20 at 2015 10:39 AM

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PFC, That is a very good question, because in reality your platoon sergeant appears to have taken interest in you and probably attempting to improve a weakness that he or she sees. My advice is to say thank you and march on, because what does not kill you only makes you stronger. Ask your self if your platoon sergeant riding you makes your a stronger soldier that will survive a deployment to face a suicidal and fanatical enemy or weaken you. Perhaps you are not use too being told what to do and how to do it. My mother raised me using the cast iron frying pan and the broom, in 1974 my platoon sergeant was a saint compare to the flying cast iron frying that always hit its mark. See the original Karate Kid and say thank you Sensei Platoon Sergeant. By the way in the 70's we ran three miles in combat boots, did KP, and had to wear a green pickle duty uniform,; just food for thought.

Response by SGT Steve Oakes made Apr 20 at 2015 10:48 AM

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I agree with SSG McNally. I would also add. It may not be that you are doing anything wrong. It may be that he sees in you the potential to go above and beyond and really be a first rate soldier. He maybe trying to push you to fulfill that potential.
So think about it. Are you just meeting the minimum standard? Is it easy for you to do so? Could you go above and beyond? Maybe you are selling yourself short.

Response by SFC Chris Sedlock made Apr 20 at 2015 10:54 AM

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Possibly, the problem is you havent done anything. Show initiative, by that i mean if your red/amber on medpros, make an appt or tell your first line you need to make one. if there is online training (ssd, sharp ect) to do, get it done when you learn of it. dont procrastinate. So your right, you might not have done anything, and maybe thats why hes 'on your back'

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Apr 20 at 2015 11:24 AM

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I'm not sure what the situation is, but I generally get my supervisors "off my back" by demonstrating great leadership, and earning her/his trust. When they see that you can do the job, they will trust you and leave you alone.

Some supervisors however micromanage, and sometimes there's not much you can do about that unless you pull them aside and talk to them. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Just remember to pick and choose your battles. You may be an NCO one day and will understand.

Response by SSG Buddy Kemper made Apr 20 at 2015 12:10 PM

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I would advise to listen to what the platoon sergeant is telling you. I've had some great ones in my time and they won't steer you wrong....at least not in my experience. You can expect them to demand high PT scores, and for you to be interested in training opportunities. Take your weapons quals seriously.....fire expert on everything you can get your hands on. If you are in a fire team, also take opportunities to be around the guys who man the crew served weapons. You'll need to be good with the 50-cal, the 240B& the Mk 19...it'll save your life and your battle buddies life when you get down range. What is your fire team leader like? Do you have a good squad leader? I advise to volunteer for any training or school you can get, don't be a griper/complainer/crybaby type....I'm not saying you are but try to keep all responses positive. Don't roll your eyes or look away when an NCO is counseling you. If they give you advise, take it. If the give you correction, follow it and learn from it. It's our job to turn YOU into an NCO. It's not easy to be a good soldier. It's harder still to lead. Find the best NCO in your platoon and get in his hip pocket and don't come out until you are wearing stripes. The future of our NATION is with guys like you so buck up, get tough and make EVERY DAY count. Your first term will be over before you know it. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Thank you for serving our country. Make the most of this opportunity and work your tail off!!! WORK WORK WORK!!!! Blessings to you and your family.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 12:40 PM

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Having a platoon Sgt on your back in not necessarily a bad thing, he might be seeing potential in you and gets frustrated when you are not rising to the occasion. SPC Hannaman said it take initiative and learn your MOS so you become an asset to your team, squad, platoon and unit! Stay motivated and you will see good things always come from having a positive mindset!

Response by SSG John Erny made Apr 20 at 2015 12:49 PM

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PFC Randall Yeates

There is a good chance that some one on this site knows you and your PSG, So this is a clear example of use your chain of command. Your squad leader should have the answer you are looking for. Also look to your peers, do they dislike you? Is it your attitude towards others? Could it be that you are doing nothing wrong but could be doing a whole lot better?

Perhaps your PSG is Old School Army and that just how he treats privates. I do not think you would have liked the Army back in the 80's; one could count on getting an ass chewing on a regular basis, not because you had done something wrong but because it could have been done better.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 1:15 PM

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Well this question isn't really much of a question. Much more information is need to define this situation. But I would be cautious to post something like this in the open.

With some research I have found that you are in AIT. I would contend that he should be on back. You are not yet in a unit and are in training. That is what happens in training. NCOs are going to watch you. The Army used to have Drill Sergeants in all AITs. Now they have PSGs. I think this was a failure as you are still in a training unit.

When you get to a unit it is going to happen. You are going to watch. At schools it is going to be worse. I can't imagine a soldier saying that at Airborne or Air Assault school. That is why the trainers are there.

Next, some times they may see potential in you. They may want to push you out of your comfort zone. That is a good thing. At this point I am pretty much comfortable with just about anything. If it only takes a PSG to push you out of your comfort zone just image what war will do.

I would really try to see advice and do some reflection on your actions to see if they merit such an approach from our PSG. It is often unforeseen why these things happen when you are a new soldier. In the years to come I hope you may understand.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 1:31 PM

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Just talk to your psg.

Response by SFC Craig Dalen made Apr 20 at 2015 3:32 PM

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Here is a question for you, How do you know that he doesn't see potential in you and feels that you are not living up to it? Just because the PLT SGT is rough on you doesn't always mean you are doing something wrong.

Response by SSG Bryan Van Hoose made Apr 20 at 2015 4:19 PM

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You won't ever "get him off your back" I suggest paying attention to what he teaches you.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 5:03 PM

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Figure out what you are doing wrong and correct yourself. You may see nothing wrong with what you are doing because you may just be doing something from habit.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 5:08 PM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member, I don't understand the down-votes. I think that a few folks have forgotten what it's like to be privates.

"Suck it up" works for a few, but for others, it's counterproductive.

Sometimes, it does seem that certain NCOs do "stay on" your "back". I think most of us have encountered them, at some time or another. But do realize that many of them have your future in mind. Maybe this PSG is pushing you because he or she realizes that you have what it takes to be a good future leader and doesn't feel that you understand your potential.
More details would certainly be helpful.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 5:21 PM

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It is within the realm of possibility that he or she may believe you have potential and are wasting that potential by doing just enough to avoid getting in trouble. Ask him or her to give you some specific things you can improve upon and then set out to improve those areas, once you have improved those areas ask him more.

Sometimes you also just need to step back and remember that you are not going to get along with everyone, stay professional and eventually it will either work out or one of you will change station.

Response by Sgt Charles Donaldson made Apr 20 at 2015 7:28 PM

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Stop being a boot

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 8:25 PM

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You can't. It's their job to be on you. To them you are one bad decision away from getting a DUI or an article 15. Until you get a few more years under your belt and get your head wrapped around the system you require constant supervision.

WE ALL HAD THAT!

Response by SFC Miguel Lopez made Apr 20 at 2015 10:05 PM

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PFC Yates stay off your PSG case first. Some times every body pays for the errors of one, whatever the case may be do what you're supposed to do and keep your nose clean.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2015 10:30 PM

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If you can honestly choose to call his immediate supervisor vs giving him proper direction there is a problem. What else can you call that? Besides trying to be in that good ole boy club im not sure what you thought would be gained of this.. Obviously the general consensus is that was "quote"(douchey) and the wrong thing to do. I myself have sat and talked with other Soldiers on what they may or may not.being doing to get the un wanted attention they are receiving. Atleast that way they get praise out of it when they correct themselves with my name not included.. Seems like a bully move to me, hope that young Soldier was well received by his NCO who hopefully discussed with him the issue at hand, which in my opinion should have been done long before this young Soldier felt the need to ask an online forum. Lets put on our thinking caps from now on before we inadvertently throw someone under the bus.. I myself know Toxic leaders are out there and dislike and treat their Soldiers differently.. It happens and shouldn't, I hope this was not indeed that type of situation and guess we won't know.

Response by Cpl Hank Hill made Apr 20 at 2015 11:28 PM

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Stop crying. In the marine corps we would get shit all the time just for being lower rank, shit rolls dwn hill. Rite of passage! SEMPER FIDELIS

Response by CPT Jason Torpy made Apr 20 at 2015 11:52 PM

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Take the challenge and go with it. If he's 'on your back', then the worst case is you'll be doing even better than you would have otherwise. Just follow direction and do what you're told. Another option is to ask for a counseling session. Have him sit down and write out what you're doing right and wrong. Maybe he's hard on you because he thinks you can handle some extra pressure. The worst possible thing you can do is decide your a poor pitiful persecuted private. It's probably not true and even if it is, the best way out is to meet whatever standard is set.

Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:20 AM

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When I first read this last night, I figured someone was pulling a fast one...that is, until I started reading an E6's response.

Private...if you are not comfortable going to your Platoon Sergeant, then go to your Squad Leader and talk. Posting this here wasn't really the best idea but I will give you some leeway because you are a private.

To the E6...come on...you couldn't have been a little more tactful and just sent him a direct message...was really posting what you did and the jabs at him what being an Leader is meant to be? Privates make mistakes...NCO's should counsel in private...not on Social Media.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 12:36 AM

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Ask your Platoon Sergeant what you need to fix.

Response by SFC Jeremy Smith made Apr 21 at 2015 2:27 AM

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Is it that you are not doing anything wrong or are you not doing anything to better yourself.

Response by SGT John Rauch made Apr 21 at 2015 2:34 AM

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pay your dues, get used to it, or serve your time and leave, the military isn't about your feelings.

Response by SPC Mark Beard made Apr 21 at 2015 10:51 AM

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lol I went to infeild radio repair at fort Gordon i sence maybe your Plt Sgt sees that you have the makings of a good nco or he feels you are not doing what is expected of you Id talk to him Brother Randell thank you for your service !!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 11:04 AM

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PFC Yeates, It is very difficult to answer your question with no more insight to your situation. But I will share a story that I still remember very well even today, I recall a young pfs when I was at Ft. Hood many many years ago he was a very good friend of mine we did a lot of running around together I worked very close to him one night on the way to the movies he was complaining about our squad leader always be on his back about small stuff and not getting on to some others for the same thing. I proceeded to help make him understand that maybe that the reason he was always on to him was that our squad leader saw something in him and was trying to get him to try harder and become a better Soldier. after that he had a differnt outllok on things and he did push himself and you know what, our squad leader did back off and started using him as a example for the rest to follow.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 11:28 AM

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Is it a toxic situation or tough mentorship? Either way document all incidents and go through your chain of command like your team and squad leaders and have them intercede on your behalf, elevate if necessary. If that doesn't work do as I did and drop an officer packet.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 1:20 PM

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Rank up...

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 1:47 PM

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300 pt score, being on time, right place, right uniform, with the right attitude. Winning the army's best warrior competition probably wouldn't hurt.
Oh and completing ranger school. That one usually seems to help.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 21 at 2015 2:32 PM

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Assuming you're that good........sometimes the key to not being noticed is mediocrity....maybe dial your performance (or attitude) back and help the guys having trouble.....it does the team no good if you don't help each other out.....everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

That being said I do agree with SSG Bryan McNally......not enough information for a truly candid feedback or advice.

But hey let's go with you God's give to the service and maybe dial back some and look out for those that need help......it's all about the team and the mission not about the individual

Response by SSG Brian Kresge made Apr 21 at 2015 3:11 PM

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It's hard being a young soldier, no? I remember when I was a young enlisted 11B, with the Rakkasans and then with 1/501 in Alaska. I was terrified of my chain of command. I don't know why! I didn't do anything wrong, got some occasional negative counseling statements that were really helpful personally and professionally, never received any non-judicial punishment or anything like that. But I was terrified of my NCOs.
At some point, then, it hit me...I started respecting them instead of fearing them. Some NCOs, including myself, have to fight a tendency to micromanage. If you think of what all a PSG is accountable for today, in our Army, there's an ample supply of liability in trusting young soldiers to self-direct. If you combine the perceived need to micromanage with a brusque professional demeanor, it can feel overbearing, and I'm not here to invalidate those feelings.
All you can truly control as a PFC is your comportment and how you engage with your PSG. By doctrine and duty, he's there to ensure you are trained and prepared. Maybe he's good at that, maybe he's not, no way for any of us to know. So all you can do is demonstrate to him that you are a soldier he can put his faith in, even if he doesn't. And remember, his career trajectory could well take him out of your hair in due time.

At any rate, if there truly is something untoward in his treatment of you, there are legitimate options. Just exercise prudence and caution - they can and will bite you if you can't quantify true harassment. But use caution, don't dilute the system with not liking a brusque, micro-managerial leadership style vs. a legitimate complaint concerning a hostile work environment. Most problems can and should be solved at the lowest level, and sometimes, you just have to suck it up.

Response by SPC Chelsea Fernandez made Apr 21 at 2015 4:14 PM

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That's how my supervisor was doing me. She kept harassing me over crazy things and kept reporting and reporting to my chain of command and they didn't do anything about it. She was creating a hostile environment for me. There was other NCOs in the presence and they didn't do anything about it. To make a long story short I end up getting an Article 15 because I blew on her and she threaten. Anyone who know that I don't like when people threaten me especially when it comes to my career. She caused me major pain and issues when I got out. If you feel you're a good solder and don't cause any trouble take it to the higher up or the chaplin or bring it to someone else attention.

Response by CW4 Tim Gourley made Apr 21 at 2015 10:15 PM

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Do something right

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 3:42 AM

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You're a PFC, get your nose a little brown and get promoted.

Response by CW2(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 4:09 AM

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I'll put it to you like this. NCOs in general are extremely busy and generally trying to spin too many plates at the same time. AIT PSGs are exponentially more busy.

I am not assuming you are doing anything wrong, PFC Randall Yeates. However, if an NCO in a leadership position is taking time out of their day to get 'on your back' then it may be time for you to check your azimuth.

Often times as a junior soldier it is difficult (if not altogether impossible) to understand or appreciate what your leadership is handling/dealing with and as a result you may not fully understand what they are seeing from their perspective. Put yourself in their shoes (managing a platoon of ~100 soldiers, making sure you all make it to PT; chow; class; wherever, dealing with the normal Joe shenanigans, getting directives from on high, etc, etc, etc). Try your best to view yourself from his/her perspective, and think about what you would want to see out of yourself if you were him/her.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 4:31 AM

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fill out a " hurt feelings" report

Response by SGT John Willis made Apr 22 at 2015 10:02 AM

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The first problem you have to address is you are not allowed to think as a private so if you think you have done nothing wrong you actually have. Next you must accept the fact that your PSG is your superior and he is allowed to do the thinking for you. When you learn these two simple things you should be able to , as you put it "get my PSG off my back".

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 11:28 AM

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This is the deal, your PSG is probably trying to push to work harder than his other joes becouse he likes you and wants to see you succeed in the military. So stop with the complaining and get after it and give it 120% everyday. (Your mind has limits but your body is limitless)

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Apr 22 at 2015 11:29 AM

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Stop worrying about doing things wrong and start thinking about what needs to be done and doing it right. Start taking charge of SPC Private RallyPoint Member and no ones else will be able to get on your back.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 11:39 AM

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Communication. Have you talked to Plt. Sgt.? How about your chain of command starting with your fireteam leader then your squad leader.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 11:59 AM

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Maybe by doing everything right.he is more than likely trying to mold you that being said he probably see's something in you that he wants you to find and be.it's call mentoring soldier. Drive on.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 1:58 PM

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1st and foremost, make sure he doesn't have a RallyPoint account.

Response by SSG Chamorro Artist made Apr 22 at 2015 3:46 PM

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maybe he needs you to get the malasys out of your four point of contact and get MOTIVATED!!..

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 4:35 PM

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You should be worried when he's NOT fussing and on you!

Response by SPC Charles Brown made Apr 22 at 2015 5:07 PM

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It may not be that you are doing anything wrong. It could be that he/she sees more in you that you are not aware of. Listen to what he/she is saying not how they are saying it. That could make the difference.

C.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 5:56 PM

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When I was a private I screwed up A LOT. Why not trying to talk to your chain of command, team chief or squad leader. Ask them what could be possibly be putting you on their radar and fixing the problem.

Response by SGT Justin Wainwright made Apr 22 at 2015 7:05 PM

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Umm do your job? If that dosent work AWOL might be for you.

Response by SPC John Levine made Apr 22 at 2015 9:08 PM

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The only thing that worked for me was to accept the fact he wont. Tighten up them boots hold your head up high and do your job. The military is the best to learn how to work with any type of person under any given circumstance. Becoming a Spc helps also. Hang in there.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 9:21 PM

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Hey man you can have 100 that's'boys but one oh sh%t will knock you back at the bottom

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 9:31 PM

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A couple of things come to mind, here. I'll try to address them as best I can based on the limited information you've given.

1. I've had Platoon Sergeants ride my backside in the past, and (with the exception of one who shall remain nameless) they all had the exact same reason: they recognized my potential, and saw I wasn't fulfilling that potential. I wasn't doing anything wrong, but I wasn't "being all I could be," either. They were on my back as often as they were because they wanted to me to pull my head out of my fourth point of contact and achieve the level of performance they knew I was capable of.

2. Some Platoon Sergeants have so many people to worry about that they only fixate on what sticks out in their mind. Depending on the unit you are assigned to, it's possible your name has only come up in a negative context for some reason or another. When that happens, there is a two-step process to getting yourself out of the rut. Step one is that the Platoon Sergeant needs to not hear your name for a while. Lay low for a month, making sure to do everything you are supposed to be doing, but take extra effort to ensure your name doesn't get attached to anything negative for any reason. Step two is you have to build yourself a new reputation. Start going to Soldier of the Month boards. Start volunteering to take peoples' duties. Show up early to PT and be seen working out on your own. Ask to help lead a Sergeant's Time Training, or ask for additional training on something not normally associated with your day to day duties. Anything you can to get your name associated with being a team player and as someone who wants to learn and grow as a Soldier.

3. It's quite possible you ARE doing things wrong, and you just don't know it. That shouldn't be an issue, because you are supposed to be getting monthly counselings that should be covering whatever screw-ups you're making, but I've been in long enough to know that doesn't always happen. In this instance, you need to approach your Squad Leader and directly ask what it is you're doing that is pissing off the Platoon Sergeant. If you don't get an answer, ask to speak to the Platoon Sergeant (do NOT go around your Squad Leader) and ask HIM directly. I guarantee you that if your Platoon Sergeant is worth his stripes (and has the time), he'll sit you down and explain exactly what the problem is.

On a final note, I'd advise against coming to a social media site (even this one) and ask a question like this in the future. Since the site displays your name and your station (and possibly your unit if you've filled it in), and your leadership might not appreciate you turning to strangers (yes, we're strangers) for advice instead of your NCOs.

Response by CPL Corey Lloyd made Apr 22 at 2015 9:59 PM

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Well for starters, dont post that kind of complaint here. Also, tighten your boot straps snd drive on! In otherwords, deal with it. Its a yes sir/no sir and complete the task. Stay squared away!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 10:31 PM

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Not by putting it on blast with social media. Stupid hurts.
1. You shouldn't ever even talk to your PSG. I don't care if this is a new Army you're TL and SL are doing something wrong and you need "education" on proper CoC.
2. The best way to eliminate 90% of the BS you will deal with is 3 simple things: right place, right time, right uniform.
3. Come over to an Infantry PLT for a few days and I promise your PSG will look like Mr Rogers.

Response by SSG Kelly OReilly made Apr 22 at 2015 10:45 PM

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You need to figure out what you are doing right and focus on that.

Response by HN Christopher Zeisler made Apr 22 at 2015 11:06 PM

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Just know that when your in the military if someone isn't "on your back" that means your a perfect soldier or a lost cause

Response by SGT Kristin Wiley made Apr 23 at 2015 2:55 AM

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SPC Private RallyPoint Member I apologize for all the negativity your post has generated. I understand that chain of command issues are delicate and you may not have anyone in your COC you can approach for advice. If you still need advice and want to avoid the public criticism please send me a PM and I will use the resources available to me to help you address the issue.

The last thing we want is for you to be isolated. If the NCO and Officers on this forum took their suicide prevention/SHARP training this year they would understand that junior soldiers like yourself are the most vulnerable. Some of the comments show the mentality of some Army leaders who believe your PSG is somehow right and your wrong by virtue of rank. The problem is that this mentality favors the potential aggressor and not the potential victim. Please do not accuse all Army leaders of having this mentality. There are many amazing leaders you can reach out to on this forum who would be more than happy to provide you the guidance you need.

Response by SrA Elizabeth Fontenot made Apr 23 at 2015 3:16 AM

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Ask him what you need to improve.

Response by SSG John Jensen made Apr 23 at 2015 4:27 AM

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there is a purpose to it all - in the most general sense read "The 'Eathen' by Rudyard Kipling, it'll explain maybe all - and for the rest of you here, this is where we get the phrase 'the backbone of the army is the non-commissioned man'
and that's a direct quote from the poem

Response by SPC Susie Scorcia made Apr 23 at 2015 7:03 AM

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Only you can truly answer that. You know where you need to improve, do that. It is 10% what happens to you, 90% how you handle it.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Apr 23 at 2015 8:59 AM

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Well, you could ask a vague questions that could be perceived as negative and possibly whiney on a public and permanent internet forum, and the likely response will be much what you've seen so far.

Or you could frame the question positively: "How can a junior service-member improve a subordinate relationship with his/her chain of command given a history of friction including events like "x""

Response by MSG Scott McBride made Apr 23 at 2015 8:59 AM

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Wow, maybe your PSG sees more potential in you than even you see? Maybe he/she knows you are a better Soldier than you act? Maybe that PSG is doing their job by ensuring you are equipped with the tools you need to be successful. Stop crying and learn.

Response by SGT James Moore made Apr 23 at 2015 3:21 PM

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O private smh the things you need to learn

Response by PO2 Michael Bobholz made Apr 23 at 2015 7:45 PM

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Just say yes sir!!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 23 at 2015 8:19 PM

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Do what your told. Shut up and ride it out. Eventually he will cool off.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Apr 23 at 2015 11:38 PM

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Do something wrong purposely and the situation will correct itself :-)

Response by CPL Robert Tharp made Apr 24 at 2015 12:54 AM

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Keep mouth shut do what he says and work your ass off

Response by LCpl Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 1:02 AM

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Maybe he simply expect more out of you and is pushing you for the better. Don't look at so much of the negative just do what you have to do and be the best you can be.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 3:15 AM

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I know this will be at the bottom so if you have found this post don't bother posting. I scoured this thread and did not find a single response from the private. Clearly he isn't being persecuted and is merely looking for a way to screw his PS....what other reason could there be for refusal to answer the simple questions that could lead to real wisdom finding him.

Response by SPC Brandon Branch made Apr 24 at 2015 6:21 AM

2015-04-24T06:21:16-04:00

you don't

Response by SSG Lonnie Silk made Apr 24 at 2015 9:26 AM

2015-04-24T09:26:33-04:00

Show up on time, every time. Be in the right uniform. Make sure you keep your hair cut and your face shaved. Do what you’re told to do with out questioning everything you are told to by your Platoon Sergeant. If he tells you to do something do it. He has a reason he is telling you to do It. It's not your job to ask questions, it's your job to do what you’re told to do.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 3:52 PM

2015-04-24T15:52:25-04:00

Become a Squad Leader.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2015 3:57 PM

2015-04-24T15:57:45-04:00

I don't know the full story, but it could be a good thing. Sometimes good leaders can see potential in younger troops and begin to mentor and mold them from the start. While your seeing it as him being on your back... in reality he could simply trying to teach you things and you are taking it the wrong way.

If you truly haven't done anything, or aren't sure, maybe you should ask him. If he is a good leader, he will answer you. Just be sure to do it in a one on one setting without other people around, and be respectful and professional about it.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 2:56 PM

2015-04-25T14:56:36-04:00

Stay ghost

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 5:28 PM

2015-04-25T17:28:16-04:00

Make an eo complaint I guess. If your really not doing anything

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 25 at 2015 9:02 PM

2015-04-25T21:02:14-04:00

If its SFC Rodreguiz just do what you need to do. Be respectful and move on

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 26 at 2015 1:50 AM

2015-04-26T01:50:13-04:00

Tack a new rank on, work your way up... there's only one true way to get someone off your back, and that's do good enough to match their skill, you never know, one day you may wear the same rank alongside them.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 7 at 2015 5:23 AM

2015-05-07T05:23:39-04:00

I have to agree with what everyone else is saying. I don't even deal with my PFCs, that is why they have Team Leaders and Squad Leaders. If you have a PLATOON SERGEANT that is on your back, you need to share a little more as to why. Where is your Team Leader? Where is your Squad Leader? Why are they not guiding you through this? Your Platoon Sergeant should be the last to be getting "on your back."

Response by Cpl Wesley Nail made Jul 9 at 2015 10:33 PM

2015-07-09T22:33:02-04:00

Normally I don't respond to posts like these but I will this time. First of all, all Marines need to stay out of this one. Situations like this are handled differently in The Corps. Second, I think that everyone is jumping the SSG's ass before knowing exactly what was said. If he saw a problem and took the initiative to help settle the problem while teaching the young soldier a lesson, I have no issue with it. By reading his profile, I doubt he is lacking in leadership qualities. The only thing is, next time it might be a good idea not to scare or blast the kid on a site like this. You could have privately done it and made it more effective.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 12 at 2015 12:52 AM

2015-08-12T00:52:17-04:00

Get promoted.