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I was National guard for a year and switched officially in May 2016, I left for basic on active orders Nov 2015 and have been active duty since (i switched immediatly after AIT) My DOR restarted and says may but my BASD says NOV. is there a way to change that? Does everything restart? I am still not getting promoted and have been e2 for 20 months now.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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Your date of rank is when you entered active duty, except in your case where you came from the reserve component. In your case, your date of rank can be adjusted.
Your Career Counselor or S1 can do a DA1506 to correct your BASD or PEBD if they are wrong. Once those are correct, your S1 can conduct an eMilpo transaction for your date of rank.
Once your date of rank is changed and your rank is corrected, you'll receive the back pay owed for the time you should have been an E3.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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SFC (Join to see) - Sergeant the PEBD date can and does change. For instance.
If I came in 11/22/88 got out 01-15-92, then returned to service 10-1-1995 that is 3 years, 8 months, 17 days including the end date.

I returned to service 10-01-1995 that would have changed my PEBD date to 08-09-1992. I got out of service 03-01-2003.

Returned to service 09-01-2010, break in service of 7 years 6 months. New PEBD Date 02-10-2000.

I have 17 years, 1 month, 12 days in service for retirement points. Now as I was saying my BASD is still 11/22/1988. That is when I was at 30 reception Battalion at Ft Benning. Thanks Giving Weekend, it sucked!

If she signed the papers and her PEBD date (I don't know exact date) 01-01-2016, because she started drilling at her HS, then that would stay the same considering she entered the service that date. Upon entering Basic, let's say 03-01-2016 then that would be her BASD, now if she changed contract to Active component during basic, nothing should change. Unless the DOR because of changing components. If that is the case time would start on DOR when she changed components. If I understand this the way it happened to me.
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SGT Bryon Sergent - I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Her PEBD is whatever it is. I'm aware of how to calculate a PEBD/BASD.
My point is that her PEBD needs to be updated prior to the emilpo transaction to correct her date of rank.
Computing PEBD/BASD is the very first thing that every Career Counselor learns in the basic course.
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What about a E-5 who transitions to active duty far as DOR change can that be corrected to the exact date of rank.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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SGT (Join to see) AR 600-8-19 Enlisted Promotions and Reductions has all the answers for date of rank questions
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SSG Laurie Mullen
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You're going to have two different dates now. I was in the Reserves and then went active. I put a service stripe on six months before a Good Conduct Medal. It looked odd to many people, but it was all within regulations. I think your date of rank is when you entered onto active duty. I was a PFC in the Reserves and dropped down to a PV2 when I went active.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
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SPC (Join to see) - When you go from the Reserves or the Guard you get dropped down to whatever you left IET with. Unless of course you negotiated something else in your contract. I was on the Split-Option Program, I was promoted to PV2 before I went to AIT. Since I came out of AIT as a PV2, that's the rank that I entered onto active duty with. I went through another AIT and then six months after I got to my first duty station I was double waivered to PFC. The S1 OIC is correct, the 4187 for your promotion in the Guard is not good for active duty. Check your contract or LES for your adjusted BASD.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
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MSgt (Join to see) - That's not completely correct MSgt. The active duty time, in my case it was just IET, counts towards retirement and the few points earned while attending drills and AT. I went to basic training on 29 June 83 and entered onto active duty in the spring of 86. I retired on 1 November 2005 with 20 years, 1 month, and 8 days.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
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They Are 2 different dates. If she entered Basic on lets say July That is the BASD date. PEBD is when she served her first drill and was actively in the unit in RSP. I have 2 Breaks in service, My PEBD date has change 3 times. The BASD is the same, 1988. My PEBD is for retirement and is reflected as 2-10-2000. My BASD Is 11-22-1988. That is also so for retirement purposes(among others), I fall in under the retirement plan of that year and will retire at my PEBD date of 02-10-2020.
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SSG Laurie Mullen
All time served whether it is active duty, reserve or inactive under mandatory enlistment count for pay for retirement. The DD Form 214 is a summary of a soldier's most recent period of continuous active duty not total service. You should receive and NGB-22 for guard service. Reservists receive DD Form 256 Honorable Discharge Certificate upon separation.
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The National Guard discharge document is known as NGB-22 and you won't get credit for serving in the Guard without it. For all intents and purposes, it is exactly like the DD214-the NGB-22 shows the nature of your discharge, time served and other critical information a recruiter would need to process your enlistment. Also Inactive duty for training does not qualify as active-duty service.

For retirement pay calculations all time served is counted.
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