How believable is President Obama to the public?

MAJ David Vermillion — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:32:08 -0400

Can we believe anything he says?

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 3:33 PM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:33:56 -0400

I choose to believe little. I believe he leaves out enough information to not tell the whole story, yet not enough to be considered dishonest.

I normally wait until information has been vetted by the media.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 19 at 2016 3:34 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:34:30 -0400

Not very. Believe only 2 % of what he says.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 3:38 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:38:24 -0400

If his lips are moving, he's lying.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 3:46 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:46:07 -0400

I think some portion of the general population (sheeple) believe him, the rest, not so much.

Response by SFC Matthew Mason made May 19 at 2016 3:48 PM

SFC Matthew Mason — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:48:08 -0400

I have not been able to find enough evidence to back up anything that he has stated. His intentions are clear yet he refuses that they are indeed what they truly are. They wanted change, well, they got it that's for sure.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made May 19 at 2016 3:53 PM

Capt Seid Waddell — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:53:51 -0400

Sure, if you were able to keep your doctor or your health plan, or that there wasn't even a "smidgeon" of political corruption at the IRS or its officials that plead the fifth.

But if you live in the real world it is a different story.

Response by PO1 Brian Austin made May 19 at 2016 3:58 PM

PO1 Brian Austin — Thu, 19 May 2016 15:58:05 -0400

I take anything any politician says with numerous grains of salt.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 4:00 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 16:00:47 -0400

No more or less believable than any other President in recent history.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 4:12 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 16:12:33 -0400

MAJ David Vermillion - Perhaps a bit more believable than Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, George H Bush, Bill Clinton, and George W Bush. Perhaps a bit less believable than Dwight Eisenhower, Jimmy Carter, and Ronald Reagan. Remember American Presidents are not entirely free to say or write what they believe because their words can destroy reputations and economies, make or break treaties, and start or stop wars. Warmest Regards, Sandy

Response by SGT Brian Wall made May 19 at 2016 4:21 PM

SGT Brian Wall — Thu, 19 May 2016 16:21:59 -0400

Personally i think it comes down to people not wanting to research what is being said. There are a lot of people that look at it like its the truth, some look at it as there might be some truth to it and some that are probably like its completely bogus. When it comes to politicians in general I really don't believe a single word they say because most of the time they only say what they are being told to say. Again this is just my personal belief.

Response by COL Ted Mc made May 19 at 2016 5:38 PM

COL Ted Mc — Thu, 19 May 2016 17:38:26 -0400

MAJ David Vermillion - Major; You most certainly can.

Mind you you have to know what the words he speak mean - to him - at the time that he speaks them.

America is used to "factually correct" statements that have been "exaggerated for the sake of emphasis" coming from its leaders - exactly why would you suspect that President Obama would be any different in that regard than President Bush (GW)?

Of have you forgotten "Iraq has vast stockpiles of WMD and we know where they are hidden."?

At least President Obama's "factually correct" statements that have been "exaggerated for the sake of emphasis" didn't result in 4,821 military fatal casualties in Iraq and another 3,517 in Afghanistan.

On the other hand, you do have to credit President Bush (GW) with turning both Afghanistan and Iraq into thriving, modern, progressive states with competent, honest, governments that are selected through free, fair, open, honest, elections where the people enjoy a level of civil rights unmatched anyplace in the world (except for the United States of America) AND with the complete elimination of al-Qa'eda (and any other pseudo-Muslim group like it).

Response by MSgt James Mullis made May 19 at 2016 6:40 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Thu, 19 May 2016 18:40:52 -0400

Not very. I would guess that he often doesn't know if he's telling the truth or not. Bob Woodward wrote in his book on the Obama White House, that the President likes to show up at the end of meetings (traditionally chaired by the President) and asks the attendees "So, what have we decided?". Then he goes with the consensus. In my experience, without background data on most issues, it's impossible to make an informed decision. So, he's relying heavily on the trustworthiness of his advisors and staff. Add to that the "Reader's Digest" version of intelligence briefings he gets and you are left with a President who is...well...uninformed?

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made May 19 at 2016 6:52 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Thu, 19 May 2016 18:52:10 -0400

Trust Him and Respect Him more than any President in my Lifetime and I voted for Reagan both times.

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made May 19 at 2016 8:55 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Thu, 19 May 2016 20:55:31 -0400

MAJ David Vermillion My response would be; do you think POTUS really believes what he says, or is everything related to his desire to CHANGE America?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2016 10:11 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 May 2016 22:11:33 -0400

The Obama puppet strings are being pulled by Valerie Jarrett and others in the administration. UN Samantha Power, George Soros just two.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made May 19 at 2016 10:31 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Thu, 19 May 2016 22:31:24 -0400

I believe him. I wish more people did. No, I'm not talking about that "Hope and Change" nonsense. That was purely an advertising/marketing gimmick and only a fool would fall for it. No, I think we have to admit we've gotten precisely the President we had every right to expect based on what we knew of him before he was elected. Furthermore, no one could possibly complain that they were deceived when they voted to reelect him. By then we had four years of his performance in office to gauge him by. Lies? Not really. Sure he made many, many promises that he never kept, but they were promises that no sane person could expect him to keep. Broken promises aren't lies. They're simply failures. One thing I've learned over more than seven decades of life is that we should believe people more. Of course, we must listen to what they are actually saying rather than what we think they are saying or hope they would say. A lot of broken relationships could be avoided. A lot of hurt and disappointment could be avoided. Well, as we near the end of Obama's Administration, I know there are many disappointed people. They shouldn't be. They got exactly what they deserved. And, there are many who will praise him as the greatest President ever (or at least among the best) and will lament the end. They even talk about how happy they would be if he were allowed to serve a term or two longer. Well, we have gotten what they deserve, haven't we?

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made May 20 at 2016 9:58 AM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Fri, 20 May 2016 09:58:48 -0400

MAJ David Vermillion The simple truth is that Mr. Obama is a politician. He is as believable as any other politician. That is to say, you will know he is lying by the tell tale moving of his lips.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2016 2:21 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 May 2016 02:21:16 -0400

If you never read a newspaper, listen to the radio, watch a newscast, he could be considered a silver tongued devil. When he delivers a speech, his target audience is the one where the 3 mediums above are never consulted. When a public servant, regardless the locale, considers this profession and requests his personal records be sealed, that same public servant should be afforded the same VETTING that ANYONE undergoes and until a proper background check and verification is completed, his reputation should be in question. Simply by virtue of DESIRING TOTAL privacy, ANY MAN who has the power to utilize my taxes as he sees fit, deserves a full vetting. If, by some strange thought process, you are inclined to believe that he controls his activities, where does Valerie Jarrett fit into the picture? Everyone was so infatuated with his President of the Hahvud Law Review status, that surely word of mouth would be sufficient to quell any questions about his bona fides. Combine the " victimhood " and the overwhelming " guilt ", millions of American carried around, those two traits could be properly utilized to drive enough to the polls while serving notice that the term racism was conveniently placed in the pockets of his " soon to be " Senior White House advisor. Particular attention should be paid to the frequency that situations ripe for exploitation of the racism term, were hijacked to fan the flames of dissent and antagonism within the minority communities. Disregard any statistics that were juggled to fit the narrative of " continued suppression" and "racism". Even if the proof did not support a contention that white police officers were targeting black youth, the " red hot word" racism could change the gravity in favor of the Victim. Thanks to Nancy Pelosi, the healthcare debacle was exacerbated when she publicly stated that " you have to read the bill to find out what's in it". Eventually the truth was exposed that no one read the bill. Then Dr Grubar was brought in as a linguistic genius to help construct sentences that would bamboozle the peasants and in some pitiful way indicate how intelligence and station in life were the benchmark for the Progressive Democratic authenticity. Has anyone seen the official Hahvud transcript?