How bad is not having promotion orders?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:32:24 -0500

I am heading to the e6 board on the 4th of dec but unfortunately when I pcsed to ft carson I misplaced my promotion orders (out of everything I can loose). I been trying, since May, to get that issue squared away. For those who have either been to the board or sat on one, will that effect my board or will I be alright?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2018 1:38 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 01:38:26 -0500

I presumed that you mean your E-5 promotion orders. Have you checked your iPERMS to see if a copy was posted there?

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Nov 29 at 2018 5:16 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 05:16:00 -0500

The unit PAC should be able to pull your orders from your electronic record. Thank you for your service.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2018 10:02 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 10:02:01 -0500

If you can't get your Promotion Orders, better start working on that Letter to the President of the Board.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 29 at 2018 1:42 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 13:42:26 -0500

What do you mean you cant find your promotion orders to present to the board? I never had to present promotion orders to any board.
You have to be a SGT with TIG and TIS requirements met to appear before the board, they are aware of your rank.
Are you getting paid as an E-5?
If so, DFAS received orders and if you want to be a SSG you better be able to figure out how to obtain a copy you aren't ready to take care of Soldier's administrative needs.

Response by 1SG Frank Boynton made Nov 29 at 2018 2:35 PM

1SG Frank Boynton — Thu, 29 Nov 2018 14:35:43 -0500

During my time when you went to the E5/6 promotion boards the sitting members already had your 201 file sitting in front of them. If you dint have orders for E5 in your 201 file, you’re not an E5. But many things could have changed between then and now.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 11:40 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:40:32 -0500

iPERMS.

Response by SGT Mathew Husen made Nov 30 at 2018 7:55 PM

SGT Mathew Husen — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 19:55:01 -0500

Have your unit check your 201 file for it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2018 10:54 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 30 Nov 2018 22:54:24 -0500

You're totally fine. The board is mostly looking at your ERB and a few other documents you might have such as a bio. The only reason you need your promotion orders is because it is a requirement for the DFAS and DOD financial audits. As far as the board is concerned, you wouldn't be standing in front of them if you weren't really a Sergeant.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 1 at 2018 12:47 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 00:47:22 -0500

Bottom line, SGT, if it's not in iPERMS it's not on your ERB. This is why the yearly record review is so important. It allows you to ensure all of your personal and financial documents are in iPERMS so they can be in the ARB and, subsequently your ERB. If it's in iPERMS make sure it's on your ERB.

The ERB is not the "official" document that states everything. It is merely a snapshot or picture of your iPERMS file and your history in the military. The ARB/ ERB must match iPERMS. If it's not in iPERMS but it is on your ERB, remove it from your ERB. But if it is in iPERMS and not on your ERB, get it on your ERB.

Response by SFC Freddie Porter made Dec 1 at 2018 9:06 PM

SFC Freddie Porter — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:06:24 -0500

If all else fails, go to the promotion authority (usually battalion for E-5, PAC with the date of promotion and ask the to forward a copy of the orders. They keep an orders log book with the order number and can probably get you at least an order number. With that number you can begin your attempt to recreate the orders if they’ve been lost. Not the first time I’ve seen permanent orders lost from a personnel record. I had to recreate almost 10 years worth of documents because some records clerk at PERSCOM misfiled or lost them.

Response by SFC Freddie Porter made Dec 1 at 2018 9:13 PM

SFC Freddie Porter — Sat, 01 Dec 2018 21:13:30 -0500

Finance may have a copy of them also

Response by SFC Josh Weatherbie made Dec 2 at 2018 4:40 PM

SFC Josh Weatherbie — Sun, 02 Dec 2018 16:40:21 -0500

Not sure how professional this question really is....did you ask your 11 year old sister to write this for you? You know people read these posts, right? Being professional is a way of life, especially as a NCO who leads and mentors younger/junior Soldiers. Please take my constructive criticism as a means of support and not negatively.

On to your question: I find it strange any non-centralized board would ask you for your “promotion orders”. Maybe they would like to see your “I love me book” if NCO’s even teach their Soldiers that tradition anymore. (Huge help when you are out and looking/searching for a civilian job- Plus everything is in one place.) Is the Board asking for other documents as well? If so, what other documents?

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 11 at 2018 6:46 AM

WO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Dec 2018 06:46:23 -0500

Iperms?