How are Class VIII MES Combat Medic Kits shown on a hand receipt?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:51:24 -0400

I am with the medical section in an FA BN. We have 6 x MES COMBAT MEDIC-2012 that are on the commanders hand receipt. These items are serialized on the hand receipt with an ACN... s/n. When I reference the component listing there are only four durable items: stehoscope, pulse ox, leg splint, and aid bag. During inspection, the inspecting officer only cares about the serialized item listed on the hand receipt and not the durable components. It is my interpretation that the MES Combat Medic kit IS NOT serialized, and that the ACN number only references the component listing. Can anyone speak to how they have the MES Combat Medic kit's on their hand receipts?

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Oct 17 at 2020 3:02 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:02:11 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member They are likely ignoring the consumable nondurable items in the Component listing/supply catalogue. The MES should be resupplied by the C Co. unsure if GcSS-A is being used to drop the material reservation in the supply system or if this is a hand written req on a 2765-1.

If it goes by GCSS-A, then there will need to be funds put against it in GFeBS so the reservations clear the ZPARK.

Unsure how you do that in the ARNG. The Medlog section of the BSB support operations, the C Co MED Supply Section, or the BN MEDO should be able to help you. On the AD side either the C Co medical supply section or the MTF Med log would receive, store, issue, account for and retrograde these supplies. You'll probably need to,open an account with a signature card with the servicing medical logistics entity. The BN S4 or BSB SPO needs to help you establish an account. Your Co XO/Supply Sergeant need to help you with this. They'll need to facilitate getting the right DODAAC, UIC and funding information to open the account mentioned above.

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2020 3:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Oct 2020 15:04:30 -0400

When you lay out 6 MES Combat Medic sets, CDR wants to see that you have 6 identical items. The MES is not serialized, but he still needs to see that you have it by laying out exactly 6 aid bags. Durables and other components are handled at the user-level, i.e. if I sign you an aid bag and you lose the pulse ox, you’re buying a new one.

My aid bags (we have 9, 6 for line guys and one each 3 ambulances) are listed on GCSS Army hand receipt in a similar fashion. Because of the lack of serial number, GCSS Army creates one.

Response by CPL Chris Palmberg made Nov 1 at 2020 11:28 PM

CPL Chris Palmberg — Sun, 01 Nov 2020 23:28:37 -0500

A lot of this is discretionary, sort of. When I was in a GA unit, our platoon leadership expected our MES sets to be dress right dress down to the number of expendable items in the box. Don't get caught with 3 extra field dressings or with 19 4×4s instead of 20.
The other thing it might be necessary to educate leadership on that I don't see reference to is variance in like items. Any medic worth his saline bags knows those $5 stethoscopes the Army used to pass off as functional don't work for squat. So sometimes it's realistic that 1st platoons medic is working with a $20 dual sided scope while 2nd's medic got a Gen II Littman at a paramedic's yard sale. Not all SAM splints are the same color. Triangular dressings sometimes come in colors other than CARC paint green.