Hillary Clinton seems like a good choice but I honestly don't know who to vote for. Can someone help me with my voting decision?

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This will be the very first time for me to vote and I try to not listen to bad media about each of the candidates but it's so much to the point to where I am lost not knowing who to choose. I feel as if I choose Hillary basically her husband will be back in the office and he will be running stuff on the sly. Than on the other hand if I choose Trump I would be ok with the end of the United States as we know it, we would literally just go to World War 5 skipping all the other wars in between. Can anyone help me with my decision?

Response by Maj John Bell made Aug 18 at 2016 1:44 AM

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Anything anyone tells you, verify by multiple sources.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 18 at 2016 2:43 AM

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Consider the kind of people that surround them and that will influence their policies.

Neither candidate is ideal by any means, but they are also not the end of the country as we know it.

Did you see this? It is a discussion of Trump's two speeches this week and gives some indication of the policies he advocates and the people that will influence him.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ [login to see] 14045/

Facebook

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 4:22 AM

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Just my opinion Corporal, but Candidate Clinton doesn't have the best track record when it comes to not leaving a fallen comrade. That being one of our values and again my opinion, a big one it's kind of a deal breaker for me.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 4:44 AM

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It's about like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYO5Oxd9Z00

Choosing between Hilary and Trump

Ace Ventura spear

Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Aug 18 at 2016 6:22 AM

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If you are unsure, think about what is important to you and what you think is best for the country. Go to their web pages and look for policy statements about where they stand in key issues and see how/where they align with you.

I admit freely I could never vote for Clinton due to the scandal the surrounds her and her husband but Trump was not my first pick either. I am willing to give an outsider a chance at this point. What is most important to me is that we break up the status quo that seems to pervade our government. That is more than one president can do but we can at least try to start. Clinton is the candidate of the status quo in Washington DC and Trump is the outsider (in the very simplest terms).

Response by MAJ Bryan Zeski made Aug 18 at 2016 6:51 AM

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Take a look at the candidates, what they say and what they've done and decide what you think they WILL do. Is what they are advocating Constitutional? Is how they've said they will use the military ethical? There is no good answer here.

Response by SGT David T. made Aug 18 at 2016 7:38 AM

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Your best bet is to actually listen to what they all say and make your decision based on that. I mean listen to the unedited speeches because the media cherry picks the sound bites they use that would resonate with their audience. After that, make up your own mind.

Response by Cpl Joshua Caldwell made Aug 18 at 2016 8:11 AM

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I was in during the first Clinton Admin and it was terrible. Bill and Hillary are both very anit- military. We couldn't even get rounds to train with. They cut the military budget so low. Moral also fell like a rock
Trump is very pro military and pro veteran.
The choice is clear, if you have any sort of veteran then you really want Trump in office.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 8:18 AM

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Honestly at the end of the day it is your decision and no one can tell you who you should vote for. Everyone has their own opinion. What you should do is see which one has more in common with what you would like to see done in the next 4 years and vote for that person. I have my own but that would be putting my bias opinion on you and no one should do that.

Response by Sgt Carlos Barrera made Aug 18 at 2016 8:20 AM

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If you have to ask around to see who YOU want to vote, is a bad clue as why are you voting in the first place. Have you noticed all the rhetoric about Hillary and all the email scandal and how she was "exonerated" of letting 4 US citizens, 3 of those were our brothers in arms.
Trump is a pro military, wants to give you all the tools and the equipment that you need for you to do your job and win.
Use this and all the examples you are given and make your mind, it is ultimately you who decides where your vote goes, down the drain (like Bernie Sanders followers).

Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Aug 18 at 2016 8:21 AM

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First, "good" and "Clinton" are not two words that go together. 2nd, I'm no fan of Trump either. But I still feel it is important to look at the fact that Clinton has acted irresponsibly, broke the law (despite the fact the FBI could not gather the evidence), and put our nation at risk. This is not someone who should run the country based on the potential "sly" behind the scenes moves from her husband. President Clinton benefited from a good economy which came about from the rise of the Internet. The things he set in motion later contributed to the housing/credit crisis we suffered later during Bush's 8 years and into Obama's.

I'm not going to tell you who to vote for or act as a cheerleader for anyone because I'm in the same predicament. For the first time in my adult life, I am torn on who I will vote for. But I do know for certain I will not vote for Clinton.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 8:22 AM

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STAY AWAY FROM TRUMP PLEASE !!!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 8:25 AM

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btw, hes an idiot : https://youtu.be/NF4DR8dTEuA

YouTube

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 8:27 AM

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Starship troopers quote that you might like to take in: "Figuring things out for yourself is the only real freedom anyone really has."

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Aug 18 at 2016 8:52 AM

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The US president is a representation of the majority of US voters. Vote for who you feel benefits you. For myself, that would be Hillary Clinton.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Aug 18 at 2016 8:54 AM

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I instinctively want to convince you to vote for the candidate I want to win, so I will resist that. I will advise you to look into actual policy stances, actual statements instead of media spins on statements, and history of the effect similar policies had on the area you live in. You will make up your own mind and be happy with your choice.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 9:00 AM

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CPL Private RallyPoint Member Ma'am I believe in this case the best thing for you to do is research. If it was something to do with math, or military guidance and had one sole answer it would be easy. But this is your country and your future. You will get a lot of opinions on here of what people view as favorable for them, but those same issues may not reflect what you would like to see in your country. As well as they may mention one ideal that the candidate excels on whereas they lack on another. The best thing you can do in my opinion is look for solid resources that will help to educate you. Also, you are not limited to a two party candidacy. After all this is the freedom of choice that we fight for, so we each have our OWN say it what happens in our country through the power of election.

Response by SGT Jimmy Carpenter made Aug 18 at 2016 9:08 AM

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One is corrupt to the core and is owned by corporations and Wall Street.

The other one has his own money and can't be bought by anyone.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 9:15 AM

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While I worked in the defense industry after separation, I knew several Marines who worked at 8th and I during the first clinton administration and can attest, she hates the military and treats the members that serve as cattle.

I would suggest watching "clinton cash" with an open mind before making your choice. Also, if you are religious, look up her thesis which praises "rules for radicals" and it's auther who dedicated that book to the "ultimate radical" lucifer.

http://www.breitbart.com/clinton-cash-movie/

http://www.hillaryclintonquarterly.com/documents/HillaryClintonThesis.pdf

Then search for the video online and watch her cackling while talking about getting a child rapist off after destroying a rape victim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3729466/Child-rape-victim-comes-forward-time-40-years-call-Hillary-Clinton-liar-defended-rapist-smearing-blocking-evidence-callously-laughing-knew-guilty.html

Watch Clinton Cash for free on Breitbart.com

Watch Clinton Cash, a documentary based on the Peter Schweizer book the NY Times hailed as “The most anticipated and feared book of a presidential cycle.”

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 9:53 AM

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I don't vote based on personalities, just on policies. I like Mr. Trump's proposals (and the Republican platform) much better, and so I'll vote for him.

Response by MSG Stan Hutchison made Aug 18 at 2016 9:54 AM

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You ask a valid question, but, for the most part, in a wrong environment. This site is loaded with bias on both sides, with a few exceptions as seen here.
If you truly want to know who you should vote for, do your own research. find out the truth, not opinions, rumors and spin.
Then vote.

Response by SGM Barry Kindred made Aug 18 at 2016 10:04 AM

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Consider them not all by what they say but, what have they done.
After all my years voting I can honestly say I don't like career politicians.
They say anything but, their history holds true.
I believe in the citizens government for us, not themselves.
Talk is cheap!
Actions speak volumes over words.
No action past, great chances of no action forward.
If a politician has no credible accomplishments over their tenure, however long, then they do not deserve my vote.
Not personal accomplishments, i.e. Positioning but, what exactly have you done lately!
Years as a politician does not equate to anything other than reelection.
Dig deep.
You'd be surprised how easy it is to make a decision based on the above.
Don't buy the emotional spins from all media.
You must do your homework to be an objective voter.
Research or you will be disappointed.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 10:06 AM

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CPL Private RallyPoint Member Congratulations on being able to vote. Voting is a privilege and I am glad to see you are taking it seriously.

I would not presume to tell you who to vote for.

What I do ask is that you continue to study and decide who is the one you think will be best for the United States. Please do not vote based on gender, race, or any such criteria.

Response by 1LT Christopher Sorge made Aug 18 at 2016 10:09 AM

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Be skeptical of everything and everyone. Don't trust anything you read. Check out: wiki leaks and DC leaks for interesting reads.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 10:23 AM

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Okay, look; allow me to kind of explain one of the unintentional points you made.
Why is there so much bad publicity around Trump? Because he pissed everyone off. He got up, said what he meant (though it has been WIDELY misinterpreted all over the place) and he showed us how he could back it up. It is no secret that he would run the Office like a business. And he should. Contrary to popular belief, he's neither stupid, nor ignorant. He is a BRILLIANT business man, but admittedly, a terrible politician. But here is why that is a GOOD thing:

Look at all the damage done by the POLITICIANS in the last 20 years. We have sunk from approximately $8 million in debt at the end of the Clinton term to $18 TRILLION now. We have been embroiled in a war we didn't even begin to understand when we started. One that has been raging for over 2 millennia. Now in addition to this, we have this lovely little thing called checks and balances. Trump wants to flip the system upside-down and rebuild it. Which would re-center it on the values and purposes that our forefathers created it for. But this doesn't coincide with the political agendas of any party, because it isn't designed to line the pockets of the 1%. It is designed to bring America back to what it was supposed to be. Back to the country that the rest of the world respected and hesitated to mess with. Let's be honest, the world is laughing at us now.

Arguments for Hillary? She's female, so she's got that whole historical thing going for her.
Arguments against her? She's a damn traitor, an incompetent idiot and is completely reckless with information that poses risks to our national security.

Arguments against Trump? He has no tact or a political mind. So he's crass and unyielding. Basically, he's the Infantry of the political world.

You want help with your decision? Watch it all. Read it all. Good, bad, ugly, and indifferent. So you get the perspective of both sides, as well as the nastiness of their mudslinging.

Response by SFC Mark Beazley made Aug 18 at 2016 11:16 AM

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I won't go into my thoughts on either candidate, but from your initial post, it seems like you have already decided that Hillary Clinton is just a shill for Bill Clinton and Donald Trump would be the end of the world as you know it.

What I would recommend, is do some research on your own to determine how each candidate stands on the issues you care about and vote accordingly. Quit listening to all the rhetoric, accusations and statements without marginal factual basis.

You might try looking at http://www.isidewith.com. Take their quiz to define your position on common issues, and see how the candidates stack up against your beliefs.

There my be other similar resources, and hopefully others can post them as well.

iSideWith.com

iSideWith shows which political parties, candidates, and ballot initiatives you should vote for based on your stances to the most important political issues of 2016.

Response by CPT Ahmed Faried made Aug 18 at 2016 11:27 AM

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for the love of the mighty flying spaghetti monster DO NOT get help with this decision here. Go to each candidates website and find out more about them. Look at their collective body of work, what they have done over the years and how it has helped or hurt people. Watch them in the upcoming debates and watch them when they are interviewed.

Response by SSgt Jim Gilmore made Aug 18 at 2016 11:29 AM

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Well you have a couple of months to do some research and decide on your own rather than ask a bait question like this one....

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 12:24 PM

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I'm hearing a lot of "vote your beliefs". I will politely disagree. Study the founding of our country. Understand the people's hearts who founded this country. Dig into WHY our founding documents say what they say. This is the compass for our country. It is the foundation for Rule by Law.

When you start to understand that government has very few ENUMERATED powers and have been taking more and more powers for the political elite, expressly against our own laws, you will have a base to make a decision. There is a HUGE difference between the Rule of Law and the Rule of Man.

"Rule of man is absence of rule of law. It is a society in which one person, or a group of persons, rules arbitrarily. The Sovereign exercises absolute authority and is not bound by any law, he as a person stands outside law."

When the Executive, Congressional and Judicial branches vote themselves a raise, this is rule of man. When the Executive, Congressional and Judicial branches vote in Obamacare and vote themselves exempt, this is rule of man. When the Executive, Congressional and Judicial branches set themselves separate from the rest of the country, this is rule of man.

IT HAS TO STOP!

Now, evaluate who has used the political system for their own gain? Don't listen to them. Don't listen to other people about them. Look at their stance on the subjects you are passionate about over the decades. Did it change per the political whims? Was it unwavering? Have they had a positive change on moving us back to the Rule of Law?

Lastly, as a military member, if you were with your Platoon in a fire fight and you knew Battalion was less than an hour away with support, who would allow them to come in and save your ass and who has proven they would turn a blind eye? You wear an uniform. You can be sent into harms way. Who has your back?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 12:52 PM

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I get why you would not like Trump. But why would you want to vote for Hillary.

Response by SFC Domingo M. made Aug 18 at 2016 1:00 PM

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There are a few things you have to keep in mind. Some of the most important issues today for the next president are; 1. They will be selecting at minimum one new Supreme Court Judge. With the death of Judge Scalea, the court is down one conservative judge. Keep in mind that the liberal and progressive judges tend to vote against the Bible and Constitution. So, if you feel a balanced Supreme Court is important then you would want to vote Trump as he has already announced who he would select from and they are all conservative judges. Hillary will select a liberal/progressive judge. 2. The second thing to take into account. What would happen to you if you mishandled secure documents? You would probably be charged under the UCMJ. So, ask yourself if you were the Secretary of State what portion of the business that was taken care of could be handled in a non-classified unsecured manner? If your answer is that you would probably look at everything as being classified in some manner, then you will probably know who not to vote for. 3. If your unit was deployed and stuck in a very sticky situation away from others, who would you like to answer that 3am call? The guys in Benghazi wanted someone to answer the call, but everyone who was near and could possibly help were told to stand down. Would you want help to arrive or would you want to be left to fend for yourselves? The answer should be clear. One other thing since it appears that you are rather young and probably do not remember clearly the presidency of Bill Clinton. A couple notes, they did not want the military to stand guard at the White House in uniform. They do not like the military, Bill was a draft dodger who protested the Vietnam while in Russia (during the Cold War). Another thing is although the whole sex thing is between him and Hillary and whoever he is having relations with, it is known that he was being serviced in the Oval Office while talking on secure lines regarding issues that others should not have been privy to. In short, it is not just his wife but Bill has a problem with not just keeping his dick in his pants but also protecting the secrets of the USA
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Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 1:17 PM

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You are the only one who can make that decision. But there are more candidates out there other than Hillary and Trump. For example, Veterans Party of America, Tea Party, Green Party, and so on. I can only inform you of my personal views of Hillary and Trump. Hillary can never be trusted and should be in jail. Trump opens his big mouth without thinking. That is why I'm considering the Veterans Party of America for this election.

Response by SFC Thomas Howes made Aug 18 at 2016 1:26 PM

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No CPL if Hillary gets it will be the end of the good old USA

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Aug 18 at 2016 1:41 PM

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Read some honest history. Hillary got thrown off the Watergate investigations by members of her own party for misconduct. That was only the beginning. Scandal follows the Clintons wherever they go...scandal after scandal after scandal. I voted for Bill Clinton ONCE in 1992, because I believed Hillary when she told us all that she believed Bill when he told her he didn't accost Jennifer Flowers. THAT was a bold-faced LIE. Hillary just isn't trustworthy.

Response by CDR Michael Goldschmidt made Aug 18 at 2016 1:44 PM

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Believe the actions, not the words.

Response by Cpl Richard Leonard made Aug 18 at 2016 1:50 PM

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I do not believe trump will take us to war, and if he builds the military and a wall and we get conservative US supreme justices it is worth the gamble. I do not want a known liar in office. He may be unpolished but that is because he tells it like it is and that's why he is hated by some. If all politicians told us the truth instead of lying to us. we could all be better off as a nation. It is hard to believe in someone when you know they are lying or just saying what you want to hear but do not show actions for their talk.Good luck in your decision. Semper Fi

Response by Sgt Tammy Wallace made Aug 18 at 2016 1:52 PM

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congratulations on finally being able to vote! sorry your first time is riddled with the worst choices in the history of the US. do your research and then pray for guidance at the polls. good luck to you and to our country. ooh rah!

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 1:55 PM

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Here is some information on Hillary Clinton:

In a recent article Hillary was quoted as having said
“I want to send a message to every survivor of sexual assault: Don’t let anyone silence your voice. You have the right to be heard. You have the right to be believed, and we’re with you.”

She paints herself as a feminist to gain your vote…. But she is the same person that defended the rapist of a 12 year old girl. She is the same person that in court blamed the girl for how she was dressed and accused her of trying to get with older guys. That girl was so violently raped and beaten she ended up in coma for 5 days and lost the ability to ever have children… Hillary was interviewed about the case a few years back and laughed about getting the rapist off. Hillary knew he was guilty and still laughed about it. She was not an appointed defender, she took on this client voluntarily.

On the subject of feminism if that one doesn’t sway you how about the fact she has received over 280 Million dollars from 7 Middle East Countries who enforce Sharia law. The law that says Women are property. They cannot drive, they cannot be in public without a male of the family, if they are raped it is their fault and they will be punished up to and including being stoned to death, this is but a few of their “laws”. If you are Gay… all 7 require you to be executed.

This is who she does business with, who she is funding her….

People keep saying she should be elected because she is a women, …. Why? What has gender got to do with running the country? Why can’t she run on her “accomplishments” When you go to her web site she has 7 of her greatest Accomplishments let’s look at them and add some critic.

1. Fought for Children and Families for 40 years.
When? She has no record of this, defending rapists yes, defending children no.
2. Helped provide millions of children health care
This was the CHIP program that was passed with bi-partisan support and pushed by (Dem)Ted Kennedy and (Rep) Orin Hatch. Hillary was not even an elected official she was the First lady when this happened. The most she did was vote to continue the program in 2007.
3. Helped get 9/11 first responders the health care they needed.
This is True… if by supporting Obama care in a non-voting capacity counts. Nope let’s face it she lied again.
4. Told the world that “women’s rights are human rights”
That’s kind of awkward when your taking over 280 Million from some of the biggest abusers of women. Or defend Child rapists and laugh about it, or cover up your own husband’s rapes and sexual assaults.
5. Stood up for LGBT rights at home and abroad.
Hum again we have that awkward moment filled with 280 million bucks… or how about her 2002 speech where she was against gay marriage…. Yet now she is for it? Must need some votes.
6. Helped expand health care and leave for military families.
After reviewing her voting record I find no bills she sponsored or co-wrote that addressed the needs of military members, leave or their families. I did find her voting for Iraq war, For Gitmo, and then several votes for the drawdown.
7. Negotiated a cease fire between Hamas and Israel.
Yep she did do that… though it lasted less than 2 months and they were all right back at it. Oh and while they we not shooting at each other there was a few bombings by Hamas in Israel. Sooo not really a success now was it.

On the subject for voting by Hillary lets look at a few of her less than stellar votes (by less than stellar I mean depending on your point of view)

First we have Amdt 47 (Violent Protester Amendment). To be honest I agree with her on this. The short vs of this is “Vote to adopt an amendment to S 256 that would prevent violent protestors from filing for bankruptcy to avoid paying court-awarded civil damages or criminal penalties.” In short burn a city block down get caught file bankruptcy and never pay a dime. If you are a member of the BLM and a few others this could be a point of contention.

How about voting against Class Action Fairness Act of 2005. A bill that would amend the federal judicial code in regards to the jurisdictional guidelines and award calculations applied to class action lawsuits. Requires that all class action settlement proposals include estimates of lawyers' fees if plaintiffs receive damages in the form of coupons.
Requires that notification of proposed settlement agreements be provided to all class members of a suit, as well as the appropriate state and federal officials. Grants federal courts original jurisdiction of any civil action in which the matter exceeds $5 million, concerns a plaintiff of one state and a defendant of another, or involves a foreign state or its citizens. (In short this gives the little guy a better edge over the corporate world)

All you Minimum wage drones guess who voted against a minimum wage hike in 2005… yep your girl Hillary, she voted against raising the minimum wage from 5.25 to 6.25.

Here is one closer to home she voted FOR Amd 1222 Disclosure of Classified Information act. Sadly it did not pass or it could have been used it to put her in jail… bet she is happy now.

She voted against HR 4297 Tax Relief Extension, part of that bill had this “Repeals the requirements that a veteran must have served before 1977 in order to receive the benefits of qualified veterans' mortgage bond programs in Alaska, Oregon, and Wisconsin.” Humm guess vets don’t matter. Also “Continues to allow taxpayers to claim personal tax credits for disabled or dependent care, the HOPE college expenses, certain home mortgages and Life Learning Credits against the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) in order to decrease the number of people that will be required to pay the AMT.” just two of the many useful items for vets and middle America.

Immigration…. Ya she voted against that too. Amd 3965 “Vote to adopt an amendment that specifies how an individual can petition for legal residence after being employed as a guest worker and after having maintained nonimmigrant status for four consecutive years.”

Lets move on to the He said / She said section.

1. She said she tried to join the Marines… Does ANYONE really believe that in the 60’s she wanted to join the Core? Hillary’s friends back then said that they remembered her talking to a recruiter, but only to test whether the military had patriarchal leanings.
2. She said she tried to join NASA in 1962… they have no record of this.
3. She is the Granddaughter of Immigrants and that "ALL" of her Grandparents immigrated to America… Nope only one grandparent ever immigrated, two were from Illinois and one from Pennsylvania. More lies.
4. Dead Broke after they left the White House… Lie.
5. Braved Sniper Fire when visiting Sarajevo… The Video proves that too was a Lie.
6. Turned over all Emails while at the State Department…. Nope again proven to be a Lie.
7. Had no Classified information on her private Server.. Again LIE’S!!!

She Donated One Hundred Thousand dollars to Charity….. The Charity was the Clinton Foundation. She Donated One Hundred Thousand Dollars to herself and it was Tax Deductible.

She speaks of income inequality while dressed in a 12,495.00 dollar Armani Jacket. At least Trump employs Millions of people of all backgrounds, ethnic, religion, gender, and orientation. His Wife and Daughter both spent less than 3 thousand dollars total for their evening ware at a similar event.

She calls Trump Racist while having kissed a KKK Klegal on the cheek and referred to him as a mentor.
She has changed her position on every major subject during her Political career.

Look up and watch Clinton Cash (still think all those missing Emails weren't important?)
Look up the 153 People who had dealings with the Clintons that went south and ended up dead. Some by "Suicide" with a double tap to the back of the head.

At the end of all of it when presented with actual facts then make up your voting choice.

I Personally am voting meteor 2016 at this point.

Response by PO2 Pete Haga made Aug 18 at 2016 2:19 PM

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CPL Mitchell I will not try to tell you who to vote for.you have to ultimately make this decision for yourself do your research and vote for who you feel will do the best job for the country and you as a citizen. This is a tough year for you to be voting the first time good luck and hope this post helped.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 18 at 2016 2:58 PM

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Always vote for the person who respects the Military because every nation has to get along with each other.

Response by PO1 Richard Cormier made Aug 18 at 2016 3:08 PM

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NO! No one can help you in your VOTE. YOU must analyze the people running and make a decision about who YOU think will be better at running the country for ALL Americans (you remember the people we wear the Uniform and swear to protect?). We may be wrong but we must make our own choice.

That is part of what being a voter is, not just casting a vote for a specific party but voting for the person we believe will help (or in this case do the least harm) to our country.

Good luck and do some research on your own. Others can help you find data, but you must process it. Even if the Electoral College does NOT vote your way, YOUR vote matters to YOU and to others if you want the right to complain.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Aug 18 at 2016 3:12 PM

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If you plan to stay in the military, vote for Trump. Republicans have taken better care of us. If you plan on getting out and wishing to be supported by the government then vote for Hillary.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 4:16 PM

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Politics isn't our cup of tea. Anyone with a uniform should know this, speaking out about the topics regarding our current candidate's for presidency especially regarding views supported or not supported by our current Commander in Chief. Off the record, "slim pickings"

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2016 7:14 PM

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For me it is an easy question. We have all taken an oath to the Constitution that is designed to protect our individual freedoms from the abuses of a government that has grown tyrannical. The Democratic Party has gone so far off the reservation towards socialism and statism that I don't know how anyone that has served could cast a vote for them. It's a decision between capitalism and socialism plain and simple. Check out Dinesh Desousa's movie about Hillary Clinton if you still can't decide.

Response by SGT Paul Mackay made Aug 18 at 2016 9:48 PM

2016-08-18T21:48:39-04:00

you vote for hillary you won,t have a job.

Response by PO3 Donald Murphy made Aug 19 at 2016 10:22 AM

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I'll be voting Gary Johnson. He's not the lesser of two (Trump/Clinton) evils.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2016 11:21 AM

2016-08-19T11:21:28-04:00

Take a hard look at 3rd party candidates too.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2016 12:00 PM

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Everyone here can tell you why "the other person" is terrible... I'll take a different route.

Donald Trump
-he's got tremendous business experience and could recommend key economic changes. Those are all political sounding words, but bottom line: Cheaper stuff & more jobs?

-he's bold. & knows how to work the media more than most. He's a showman who cares about his image. He'll portray a 'strong' image for America throughout the world. & he's not going to back down. When dealing with other countries, this could be a benefit.

-he's not the career politician tied to traditional party. He's not tied to the 'system' that has convoluted laws. He's not owned by the guys who stand their ground no matter what. Some would say he's a 'flip flopper' because he'll do & say things different, but being able to evolve and shift to certain policies will allow him to make calls based on what people want right now, not necessarily what some crusty old politicians have wanted for years. He's not tied to the "party message" and can move policy in any direction.

Hillary Clinton
-she's got a very long list of positions giving experience. Senator. Secretary of State. 1st lady. She knows how all the sections of our government work

-she's got many bullets on her resume working with others from different parties to compromise & get results. (A coalition builder)

-she served on the Senate Armed Forces committee & has a good history with military & veterans. (Raised minimum SGLI from $12,000 to $100,000. Made it so Guard and reserve get Tricare. Increased VA funds and wrote laws for returning Soldiers & those with brain issues / PTSD)

-she knows how America fits in to other countries. As Sec of State, she worked with many countries to get movement toward common ends

...you gotta find what matters most to you though because they are polar opposites and both have some baggage & skeletons in their closets.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2016 4:55 PM

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What qualities do you value in a president?
Trump is a nationalist, i wouldn't be too concerned with his off the wall policies, any of his extreme positions will be moderated in congress. There will likely be no wall, banning of muslems ect... Trump does not have a history in the republican party so its unclear how supportive the republican party will be of him post election, its possible congress will take a larger role and the speaker of the house will become more of a center of gravity for the government.
Hillary is a institutional democrat, her policy will mirror the party line, however she tends to be a conservative democrat so any large social reforms are unlikely. She will likely be stalled out by the republican congress unless they re-balance.
Of the third party candidates, no its unlikely-impossible they will take the election, but this may be the year they can pull enough support to at least make it on the stage and open up our democracy more, I'd encourage you to look into them.

Response by PO2 Brian Harringgton made Aug 20 at 2016 7:37 PM

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just don't vote you are a grown person make the choice for youself either way you are screwed the president dose not have your back or your intertest at hart so stand by to stand by

Response by PO2 Brian Harringgton made Aug 20 at 2016 7:42 PM

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the canadate or the president to be cannot and will plz everyone and that is a fact

Response by PO2 Brian Harringgton made Aug 20 at 2016 7:45 PM

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he cannot go to ww5 the reason being he cannot enjoy his billions and he will not be ablle to buy more and more and more and more realestate this is cpl who made the main blog

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Aug 20 at 2016 8:27 PM

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Hillary is a fantastic choice if you want to vote for a liar and someone who's above the law! If you want someone who will continue to tear down the military, will go to any extremes to get what she wants. Intimidated women who had affairs with her husband to keep them from speaking, while at the same time promoting herself as a person supporting women's rights. Yep, vote Clinton if you want a CiC who lied to the faces of families of good men killed in Libya. If you want fantastic judgement, just look what the Obama/CLINTON policies have done to the Arab countries in the middle east(Egypt, Libya, Syria). If you want someone who is bought and paid for by foreign governments, people (through the Clinton Foundation) then she's your man!

And don't vote for Clinton just because she's a woman, look at her past record.

Response by MAJ David Brand made Aug 20 at 2016 9:27 PM

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Look at what they represent and compare it to your values and what you represent and the answer is easy!

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2016 11:19 PM

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CPL, I have never, nor will I EVER tell someone how to vote. I will, however, DEMAND you do your due diligence and honestly take a stance on those issues important to you, research the candidates, and vote your conscience. Go to ontheissues.org and answer their 20 question quiz honestly and see how the various candidates compare. Vote for the one the most closely matches you.

I don't really care WHO you vote for, but the you actually VOTE. Lots of people here and in your unit will try to influence you to vote for one candidate or another, and question you as to why you voted for a particular person. And just because they are the only ones on the nightly news, doesn't mean Clinton and Trump are the only candidates.

Response by SSgt Jonathan Dickey made Aug 21 at 2016 8:48 AM

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If you want an honest leader you need to vote for neither Hillary or Donald. But as far as you thinking Donald will bring about WW5, the President does have power but not that much. If Congress would do their job and stop delegating certain aspects of their duties to the President or regulatory agencies the President would matter even less. Maybe a DT or HC Presidency is what we need just to get Congress to start taking their duties more seriously.
My suggestion is to look at third party candidates, mainly the Green and Libertarian parties to see if one of them better fit with your personal views.

Response by SSgt Ray Stone made Aug 21 at 2016 9:52 AM

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Hmmm one is a liar and a panderer, the other has offended every group in America including veterans and most recently Afircan Americans contradicts himself ( has said that he wants to bring jobs back to USA, but his clothing line is manufactured in China) I'm voting for Billary only due to experience. I wanted to cross party lines and vote repub for Kasich, but the dummest, racist, ignorant segments of USA's population wanted Chump. So he were go

Response by Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay made Aug 21 at 2016 10:36 AM

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The various media I am paying attention to paint both candidates in a bad light. At this point I'll write-in Bernie. Partly as protest and partly because our political system has to reach "rock bottom" to realize that it is addicted to violence and money.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Aug 21 at 2016 12:31 PM

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I. Think of voting for trump would be a big mistake because he always says trust me but he doesn't say how he's going to fix anything. Just a lot of Lip Service and also he has No Knowledge on a clear path on how he's going to make American better? Also he wants to bad mouth people and then changing his mind like John McCain how he was Captured and then Endorsing him for Senate.

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 1 at 2016 10:28 AM

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I would suggest that you search your own morals and beliefs and vote for someone who shares them. Let your own conscience tell you who you like more instead of a group of strangers. I'm personally a huge proponent of Gary Johnson, but what you believe is unique to you.

Response by SGM Mikel Dawson made Sep 8 at 2016 12:57 PM

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CPL Private RallyPoint Member You will vote for someone who has no clue about secure material - if anyone of us did what she did we'd be in jail! You'd vote for someone who is a constant liar, do some serious looking. You'd vote for someone who's judgement has helped lead to the destruction of the Middle East - just look at the countries before she and Obama got their noses in the ring. You'd vote for someone who left her men high an dry, killed and dead in Libya? You'd vote for someone who's be bought by foreign governments and businessmen?
Be honest, read, do some research and look again.

Response by SCPO Penny Douphinett made Sep 9 at 2016 8:38 PM

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As you continue to think about your choice, I strongly encourage you to do some reading and I don't mean Facebook or here necessarily. If you do, you will come away with the impression Secretary Clinton is the anti-Christ and Trump is the Second Coming. As you know that is nonsense. Many military have a visceral reaction to Clinton, call her a murderer, e-mail problem, Benghazi, etc. However, if you take the time to actually read the Congressional investigation reports, Director Comey's report for yourself you will be much better informed. She is probably the most investigated person in government! After many investigations, Congress could find no wrongdoings, and they tried, when it came to Benghazi. She has made many wrong decisions and has owned up to them, really not much more we can expect from a politician.
Donald Trump has been controversial from the day he announced his candidacy. He has been caught repeatedly being viciously loose with the truth about what he has said and done. He will not admit responsibility for anything he has done wrong and the thousands of people his various businesses have left without being paid. I don't understand how many active duty/veterans see him as so strongly for our communities. He trashes the military at every turn and has shown time and again he has no understanding of military culture. At the Commander in Chief's forum he was adamant the military needed it's own justice system! The only problem he seems to know about in the VA system is what happened in Phoenix and his solution is to give veterans a card to get care outside. We already have that, it has problems, but the system already exists. He has no plans other than to create a massive "deportation force" which brings to mind jack- booted thugs who don't belong in our Country. I don't think we should elect someone who's answer to most things is "Only I can fix it, trust me". That is not how our democracy works.
Do your own research!

Response by William Prophett made Sep 15 at 2016 12:10 PM

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Hillary Clinton is a Traitor. Her lack of 'caring' for national security has costs Intelligence Community lives, thousands of them. Anyone who votes Clinton is voting to HAND our country to Iran.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2016 12:51 PM

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There is no point denying or sugar-coating the plain fact that the voters this election year face a choice between two of the worst candidates in living memory. Donald Trump represents multiple and potentially fatal risks. But Hillary Clinton is a certainty of disaster. Her vaunted "experience" is an experience of having repeatedly made decisions that turned out to be not merely wrong but catastrophic.

The most obvious example has been her role as Secretary of State during the Obama administration's decision to undermine and help destroy the governments of two nations — Egypt and Libya — that were no threat whatever to Americans or to America's interests.

The net result was that two Middle East nations that were at least neutral toward the United States, in contrast to others who are hostile and belligerent, were turned into countries where Islamic extremists created turmoil, and one in which Islamic terrorists killed the American ambassador and those who came to his aid.

President Obama and Secretary Clinton inherited an Iraq where terrorists had been soundly defeated, thanks to General David Petraeus' "surge" campaign, which both had opposed when they were in the Senate.

But the Obama administration turned victory into defeat by pulling American troops out of Iraq, against the advice of top military leaders, setting the stage for the emergence of ISIS and its triumphant barbarism that attracted adherents who began waging a terrorist war inside Western nations, including the United States.

A whole series of disastrous military and foreign policy decisions have led to public criticisms by an extraordinary succession of former Secretaries of Defense and top generals who had served under the Obama administration. Such public criticisms of any administration, by its own former high officials, are virtually unheard of.

One of these Secretaries of Defense, Robert Gates — who has served under several administrations of both parties — criticized Donald Trump as well. Secretary Gates said: "The world we confront is too perilous and too complex to have as president a man who believes that he, and he alone, has all the answers and has no need to listen to anyone."

Secretary Gates called Trump "beyond repair." He also criticized Hillary Clinton, so this was no partisan attack. Unfortunately — perhaps tragically — she and Trump are our only alternatives this election year. On the domestic front, as well, Trump is an uncertainty, while Hillary is a guaranteed catastrophe. Given the advanced ages of various Supreme Court justices, whoever becomes the next President of the United States can expect to have enough appointments to that court to determine the future of American law — and American freedom — for decades after that President's term of office is over.

Hillary Clinton has already said that she wants to see the current Supreme Court's decision overturned in a case where they ruled, by a 5 to 4 vote, that both corporations and labor unions have free speech rights. On other issues as well, she has advocated curtailments on free speech. And without free speech, there is no effective limit on what any administration can do.

On racial issues, Mrs. Clinton has repeatedly pushed the idea that blacks are besieged by enemies on all sides, and need her to protect them — in exchange for their votes. Trump has at least supported charter schools, which are one of the few avenues through which the next generation of blacks can get a decent education.

There are no good choices, but nevertheless we must choose.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Sep 22 at 2016 4:41 PM

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Research both for yourself and go with your conscience.

Response by TSgt Jim Gregg made Sep 23 at 2016 9:15 PM

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Are you active or a veteran? Republicans tend to be pro-military and Democrats tend to be pro-veteran. Been that way for the past 15 to 20 years. I wouldn't exactly say that Trump is pro-military, he is just not anti-military. Hillary is probably about the same. Of course Trump's views of certain minorities makes his support of all of the military a little harder.

Response by MSgt Jj Fox made Sep 29 at 2016 8:03 PM

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Well one of my thoughts swings around how I think the individual treats people when no one is looking. Now having said that, I have personally met Hillary and Bill, but have not met Trump. Bill is very personable, even if he tends to direct all his attention towards the opposite sex, most men probably would when they are President and in a meet and greet. As far as Hillary, all I will say is she was not a nice person, unless the media or cameras were around. Now my standard; I look at it from the standpoint of a homeless Vet standing on a corner. Which candidate do I think would stop and talk to them, and freely give them $5, $10, $20 or even $100 out of their own pocket? I can honestly see Trump doing this, but I can't see Hillary doing it. All I can see Hillary doing is looking at him in disgust as she drives by and enacting some form of legislation to get the homeless Vet off the street corner because it looks bad! Hillary is a politician through and through, whereas Trump is not, which appeals to me because he is not beholding to anyone. He may not have experience, but neither did Obama. All that really matters is who is selected to surround him while in Office....... if the President has a good staff, the Presidency will be successful, if not it will be a bad 4 years.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 9 at 2016 11:22 PM

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Hillary only seems to be a good choice if you don't look too closely. If you do you'll be overwhelmed by her poor judgment, criminality, and blind ambition for personal gain regardless of the damage she'll do to the nation. If you can't see that already, you never will (unless of course she's elected and you join the rest of us having it shoved in our faces)

Response by PO1 Joseph Glennon made Oct 13 at 2016 7:34 PM

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Wait... what?

Talk to the folks in the military who have had the misfortune of having to provide her security. Talk to the Marines who were stationed in the White House when she was just the first lady, and weren't allowed to wear their uniforms inside the WH. Who weren't allowed to look at her in the eyes.

Say that she looks like a good choice to the women who her husband raped, and then she maligned their character, threatened them, and bullied them.

Say that she looks like a good choice to the people who understand national security, when they find out that, as Secretary of State, she authorized Russia's obtaining 25% of the US's uranium production (after Russia gave a hefty donation to the Clinton Foundation, and gave Bill about half a million dollars to give *a* speech).

Corporal - elected and appointed officials take basically the same oath that you did. According to Article I of the Constitution, anyone who accidentally mishandles, or causes to be mishandled, official (classified) documents "shall not be qualified to hold office in the United States." By her own admission, by her giving her data (on a thumb drive) to her lawyers, by the findings of the FBI... Hillary is not even qualified to be elected to dogcatcher.

Corporal, you really need to do research. I don't want to tell you to who to vote for, I don't want to tell you to even vote at all ... I don't want to tell you not to vote, either. But - I do want to say that *if* you're going to vote, do your research. Find out if the person you think "looks like a good choice" has the same personal values that you do. If you were to imagine yourself in situations similar to what the person had been in, what would you do?

Remember that there are at least 6 "national political parties" ... we don't have to settle on the two, but - once we get to this stage of the game, if only two have made it to the national debate stage, voting for any of the others is just giving two votes for the person that you don't want to be elected.

Response by SGT Dave Tracy made Oct 14 at 2016 9:09 AM

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In the end, you have to decide for yourself, but I'd advise looking deeper into the issues than the causal voter generally does. It's ok to consider mass media and blog sources, but understand there are implicit and explicit biases there. Remember, ads and sound bites are sales pitches for or against someone-they may contain a kernel of truth, but are often disingenuous at best or outright falsehoods at worst.

My suggestion, considering our options, write-in yourself or better yet, write in me! And my political promise to you is I'll make no political promises...other than just that promise. I promise.
;-)