Hillary claims "Nobody Did Anything Wrong" In Benghazi Report. Do you agree with her assessment?

2015-10-09T16:01:30-04:00

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-and-the-benghazi-reports/ar-AAfdmS6?ocid=spartandhp

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said all of the government investigations into the terrorist attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities in Benghazi concluded that "nobody did anything wrong." That's not exactly accurate.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Oct 9 at 2015 4:05 PM

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"Nobody did anything wrong"....Hillary Rodham Clinton 10/07/2015....

Yea right & I am the Chief of Naval Operations (Ret)...

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Oct 9 at 2015 4:19 PM

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Sgt Tom Cunnally, did you see this? It explains a lot.

https://benghazi.house.gov/sites/republicans.benghazi.house.gov/files/TG%20letter%20to%20EEC%2010.7.15.pdf

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2015 4:48 PM

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I wish they would put the VA under this type of scrutiny.

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Oct 9 at 2015 4:57 PM

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Shameful, Ludicrous, Irresponsible, Criminal, Reprehensible, Jackassery....feel free to add to the list!

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made Oct 9 at 2015 5:14 PM

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Hillary lies like a dog.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Oct 9 at 2015 7:16 PM

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No Sgt Tom Cunnally, I would not agree with former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's blanket statement that "nobody did anything wrong."
1. Somebody signed off on Ambassador Stevens trip to Benghazi without sufficient security or an extrication plan.
2. Somebody decided to stick with the story-line that the anti-Muslim video was responsible for inciting the violence in Benghazi.
3. Somebody blocked the rescue mission for Ambassador Stevens.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 9 at 2015 9:34 PM

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Nobody did anything wrong that would create culpable negligence.

Walt

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 10 at 2015 2:39 PM

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I don't believe most Americans have much interest in hearing politicians complain and make accusations about other politicians.

If you have evidence of a crime then file charges. When you file charges against Clinton, I'll concede that she may have committed a crime. When she's convicted of a crime, then we can agree that she did something illegal. Until then it's just political maneuvering to discredit a political opponent. If anything that fact that after 18 months no charges have been filed against Clinton means she probably didn't break any laws.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Oct 11 at 2015 10:01 AM

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Debbie Wasserman Schultz was on CNN a few minutes ago and she said this Benghazi Hearing is a partisan witch hunt that is just trying to attack Hillary Clinton and she referred to remarks made by Rep McCarthy on this issue... Schultz knows a thing or two about witch hunts because she has been the subject of many of them..

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Oct 11 at 2015 10:05 AM

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Yes from what I have read elsewhere.

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Oct 12 at 2015 4:09 PM

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That's not accurate! There was some wrongdoing there and also some Incompetence! To what extent we are not sure yet!

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Oct 17 at 2015 10:04 AM

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I most definitely do not agree with her assessment, she should be shot for her war crimes, she ignored memos requested additional security forces. This attack was anticipated (in my understanding) in advance.

She will still probably win because she is a woman going for the Presidential vote. And she will win, because it is a new idea. ( No sexism involved here btw).

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2015 11:18 AM

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To answer your question, is the Pope a temple undergarment-wearing Mormon???

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 23 at 2015 3:27 PM

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To agree or disagree with the issues behind Benghazi, we would require to do the same with 911, Oklahoma City, and Beirut, etc; all of which only prove that people in power have no power when it comes do dealing with nuts.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2015 3:30 PM

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Some of our forefathers could predict what should be said for lying politicians
"It is of great importance to set a resolution, not to be shaken, never to tell an untruth. There is no vice so mean, so pitiful, so contemptible; and he who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and a third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world's believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good disposition." — Thomas Jefferson, 1785

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Oct 23 at 2015 6:49 PM

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hmm, going back in my Bill and & Ted time machine:

White Water Investigation 1996:
In the four years that Hillary Rodham Clinton has been
questioned about her role in the related events known as Whitewater, her public posture has changed very little. She has asserted that she has done nothing wrong and that "at the end of the day, the American people will know that we have nothing to cover up." There is no connection, she has said, between anything she did and the criminal cases being pursued by the Whitewater independent counsel, including the trial that ended last week with the fraud convictions of the couple who brought the Clintons into the original Whitewater land deal and the man who succeeded Bill Clinton as governor of Arkansas.

But wait there is more...

Hillary Clinton Invested $1,000, Netted $100,000 Through Trading

By Angie Cannon, Frank Greve

Knight-Ridder Newspapers: AP: Washington Post: Los Angeles Times: Newsday

WASHINGTON - The disclosure that Hillary Rodham Clinton parlayed $1,000 into nearly $100,000 through highly speculative commodities trading may create political embarrassment for the Clintons, who have sharply criticized a national culture of greed during the Reagan and Bush years in the White House.
But the information released yesterday by the White House covering investments in 1978 and 1979 also appears to support the couple's contention that they had done nothing illegal or unethical in the trades.
As a presidential candidate, Bill Clinton had decried the speculative wealth-building of the rich during the Reagan and Bush years as "a gilded age of greed and selfishness, of irresponsibility and excess and of neglect."

But wait there is more...

Shortly after Vince Foster's death on July 20, 1993, a group of files were moved from his office to a closet near Hillary's office in the Clintons' personal quarters on the third floor of the White House.
One item which may have been among those files were the billing records from the Rose Law Firm which documented Hillary Clinton's legal work on Jim McDougal's Castle Grande real estate deal. These records had been the subject of various investigative subpoenas but had been missing for over two years. They mysteriously resurfaced in January 1996 when Carolyn Huber, a White House aide, came upon them in her office and recognized them as the missing files. She later testified that she had moved them to her office from Hillary's book room six months earlier while straightening up, but had not realized their significance at the time.

and yet even more...
Hillary’s Missing Travelgate Documents. In 1996, just before the Whitewater documents emerged – literally the day before – a two-year-old memo emerged, according to The New York Times, showing that Hillary “had played a far greater role in the dismissal of employees of the White House travel office than the Administration has acknowledged.” Oops.

Hillary’s “Unethical Practices” During Watergate. According to Democrat Jerry Zeifman, Hillary “engaged in a variety of self-serving unethical practices in violation of House rules” designed to keep Nixon in office long enough to guarantee a Democratic presidential victory in 1976. Zeifman said that Clinton – then Hillary Rodham — had worked with Teddy Kennedy’s political strategist. More specifically, Zeifman accused Rodham of writing a fraudulent legal brief and grabbing public documents. Zeifman fired her, and later claimed that he wished he had reported her to the Bar.

Hillary has a long history of this behavior. But that won’t stop her from moving forward. The media are less interested in governmental transparency than in picking the next president – and making sure the next president represents the hard, corrupt left.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2015 7:54 PM

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I do agree, as do the investigations. Look at our country's history of such things and the reactions involved, and tell me it's not entirely political.

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Oct 23 at 2015 8:34 PM

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This is what, the 7th?+ investigation into Benghazi? It's not that "nobody" did anything wrong. It's that "nobody specific could be found to be particularly responsible."

There's a certain point where there are so MANY failures that EVERYONE is responsible, and no "single point of failure" can be blamed.

That doesn't mean that Sec Clinton doesn't share some blame That's the burden of command. Which she no longer holds. However, there's also a point where we are spending more effort and energy trying to establish blame than correct the underlying problem.

Response by SGT Richard Blue made Oct 23 at 2015 8:40 PM

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I watched Hillary own the investigative committee. You mention, " Nobody Did Anything Wrong", but I don't recall her ever saying this during the hearing. Did she actually say this in regards to the operation in Benghazi? Do you have the video clip?

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Oct 23 at 2015 9:42 PM

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In a sh!t sandwich there is always fault, problems etc. Do we help the problems by linching, or make the system better?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 23 at 2015 11:34 PM

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When she said that, was she waving her hand, palm open like as to wave ad Obi Wan does in StarWars when using the Jedi mind trick to make people forget?

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 25 at 2015 4:06 AM

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"Ambassador Stevens didn't have your email, is that correct? Your personal email?...Did he have your cell phone number?...Did he have your fax number?...Did he have your home address?...Did he ever stop by your house?...Mr. Blumenthal had each of those and did each of those things."
-- Rep. Mike Pompeo in yesterday's Benghazi Committee hearing, referring to longtime Clinton friend and adviser Sidney Blumenthal

"Were you and Chris Stevens Facebook friends? Did you follow him on Instagram?"
-- Commentary editor Jon Podhoretz, mocking Pompeo on Twitter

Response by CPO David Sharp made Oct 25 at 2015 5:07 AM

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In all the mind sets of the Progressive Political Movement, accountability is an alien concept. Their main goal is how they are portrayed, i.e., their legacy. Leadership is not a concept they understand or honor. In all of the mix of posturing, these men were killed. Four families suffer and all any of these sacks of protoplasm can think about is there own skin and legacy. Something has gone and died with the idea to stand and accept responsibility as well as praise for personal actions. Sadly, ALL the political body seems to have flunked that course in the school of life.

Response by SSG Michael Scott made Oct 25 at 2015 4:59 PM

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4 Americans died and Hillary lied.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 25 at 2015 7:07 PM

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No. Although a law was not broken, Hillary must realize she failed to make the right decision at the right time. Hind sight is 20/20, but when you make the wrong deicsions or fail to make a decision and people die, it is petty to only consider protecting your career. I would have had more respect for her if she would have provided a heartfelt apology for her leadership failure.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Oct 25 at 2015 8:22 PM

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Than it was a perfect operation!

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Oct 25 at 2015 10:31 PM

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The jury isn't even out yet. There's still evidence and testimony to be collected. However, it's clear that there was either malfeasance (someone did something that got these people killed) or misfeasance (someone didn't do something they should have and it got these people killed). I have my suspicions but I'll wait...

Response by SSG Gene Carroll SR. made Oct 25 at 2015 11:44 PM

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No, to maney months of asking for help and not getting it. While they all were partying to here the final cry for help. Even the country we where to help did nothing.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 26 at 2015 12:20 AM

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She did not take responsibility. But the majority has made up there mind. But there is a private citizen who was perk walked by seven officers. And but in jail for a parole violation . And Obama and Hillary went to the front of the UN to apologize for the video. And she knew it wasn't the video. If they can do this to an innocent man. They can do it to anyone.

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 26 at 2015 12:34 AM

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I see cpt service member is mouthing off but no one can comment on it. I guess he can't handle the truth.

Response by MSgt Keith Hebert made Oct 26 at 2015 12:39 AM

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Hell know
Ahe was in charge it all falls on her shoulders
No leadership ability ughhhhhhhh

Response by Cpl Tou Lee Yang made Oct 26 at 2015 2:53 AM

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Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Oct 26 at 2015 8:26 AM

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It's like the "First Rule of Politics Club"...nobody EVER did anything wrong. All bad things happen by luck and magic; all good things happen due to my policies.

Response by SFC Michael Madigan made Oct 26 at 2015 9:38 AM

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She is guilty as can be, hiding information, lying to congress, and destroying here emails and hardrive. If I did waht she did as a government employee my butt would be in jail. She has violated every ethic code and she has no trust or honor value in my book. A SNAKE IN THE GRASS-BEWARE

Response by Maj Mike Sciales made Oct 26 at 2015 10:25 AM

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She did nothing wrong. The Reginal Security Officer and the Ambassador screwed up and they died. Want to fix Benghazi? Keep all the diplomats in DC and let them work via Face Time. Put visas into ATMs and let them be issued remotely. Done.

Response by LCDR Jeffery Dixon made Oct 26 at 2015 12:23 PM

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Lets ask Forest Gump.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2015 1:05 PM

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Mrs. Clinton did some pretty impressive tap-dancing in that last hearing. She was evasive on most answers, and obviously not willing to answer questions as they were asked. I will not be voting democrat next year (not that I ever have, but if I were to start it wouldn't be now).

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Oct 26 at 2015 2:31 PM

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What's crazy is that everybody seems to believe that a Congressional Committee has the power to "file charges" against someone and use the fact that they haven't as proof of innocence. That is just not true. Committees can only issue statements of findings (typically both the majority and minority groups will issue findings) for follow-up and possible prosecution by the Justice Department. If the President and/or his Attorney General refuse to prosecute it all ends there (guilty or not). The only active power designated to Congress is to hold someone "in Contempt of Congress", which is typically issued for the refusal to comply with a subpoena or directly lying to Congress. Unfortunately, obfuscation, telling partial truths, and parsing your language are not considered lying. It should noted that both the former Attorney General, Eric Holder and the IRS's Lois Lerner were found to be "In Contempt of Congress" and nothing happened to them, why not? Because the President and his appointees elected not to prosecute them.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 26 at 2015 2:31 PM

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Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 26 at 2015 3:44 PM

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The sheep will forget. "What difference does it make?" I will just wave my arms around and they will vote for me.

Response by MAJ David Vermillion made Oct 26 at 2015 5:22 PM

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In Washington, nobody ever claims ownership.

Response by 1SG Rick Davis made Oct 26 at 2015 5:41 PM

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The fact that the people in the Benghazi requested more defense personnel more that 600 times is insane. It is ridiculous not have any request of that nature not start with her. She has many people below her level to blame everything on. How can she be held responsible for anything. I couldn't watch much of the hearing, I couldn't get over her expression , how can you be asking me such stupid questions. DONT YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE TALKING TO..

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2015 12:55 AM

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Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Oct 27 at 2015 9:25 AM

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Sgt Tom Cunnally even if I accepted that nobody did anything wrong (which of course I do not accept), that doesn't mean that anybody did anything right. In reality, the situation in Benghazi was a shit show. Instead of defending her lack of wrong doing, she should be telling the American people, and the families of those lost what the State Department did to support those people. They didn't evacuate. They didn't send in the Marines to defend that piece of sovereign US Soil. They didn't bring in air support to drive the attackers back. They did not protect America's Interests. IF I am not mistaken, the US Department of State is the diplomatic side of protecting this nation's interests abroad. When that fails, then action needs to be taken to protect American citizens. I would make a horrible Secretary of State. My first reaction would be diplomacy. IF that failed, My second reaction would be if a toe comes on to American soil, kill it. Defend with deadly force until evacuation can be effected. Provide air cover for the evacuation. IF the host nation doesn't like it, FUCK YOU I will defend my nation, its citizens, and its interests.

Response by 1LT Arron Iacolucci made Oct 27 at 2015 9:27 AM

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Hillary sucks

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 27 at 2015 3:20 PM

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Let's see 600+ request for additional security, the contractors at the CIA annex told to stand down, leaving 4 American's dead. Can't see how someone did not do something wrong, and I would guess criminal.

Response by SFC Matthew Parker made Oct 27 at 2015 3:53 PM

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Not what she said. She acknowledged the independent report found plenty of things that went wrong and she told congress firing the two she felt were the most responsible was hindered by the civil service regulations on firing government employees.

Response by SFC Matthew Parker made Oct 27 at 2015 4:30 PM

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Read the report and the testimony of the events.

A Commanding General doesn't have direct control of a fire watch in the barracks does he/she? there IS A CHAIN OF COMMAND. In this case the chain failed and there was a fire. Do you blame the CG?

I knew people on the ground, this is what we do for a living and the blame falls on congress for not providing the money, Senior leadership at the Dept of state security service for not supporting the agents in the field and the Ambassador for his lax security procedures.

Pursuant to Title III of the Omnibus Diplomatic and Antiterrorism Act of 1986, 22 U.S.C. § 4831 et seq., (the “Act”), Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton convened an Accountability Review Board (ARB) for Benghazi to examine the facts and circumstances surrounding the September 11-12, 2012, killings of four U.S. government personnel, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, John Christopher Stevens, in Benghazi, Libya.

FINDINGS
In examining the circumstances of these attacks, the Accountability Review Board for Benghazi determined that:
1. The attacks were security related, involving arson, small arms and machine gun fire, and the use of RPGs, grenades, and mortars against U.S. personnel at two separate facilities –

Responsibility for the tragic loss of life, injuries, and damage to U.S. facilities and property rests solely and completely with the terrorists who perpetrated the attacks.

2. Systemic failures and leadership and management deficiencies at senior levels within two bureaus of the State Department (the “Department”) resulted in a Special Mission security posture that was inadequate for Benghazi and grossly inadequate to deal with the attack that took place.

Overall, the number of Bureau of Diplomatic Security (DS) security staff in Benghazi on the day of the attack and in the months and weeks leading up to it was inadequate, despite repeated requests from Special Mission Benghazi and Embassy Tripoli for additional staffing.

Benghazi was also severely under-resourced with regard to certain needed security equipment, although DS funded and installed in 2012 a number of physical security upgrades. These included heightening the outer perimeter wall, safety grills on safe area egress windows, concrete jersey barriers, manual drop-arm vehicle barriers, a steel gate for the Villa C safe area, some locally manufactured steel doors, sandbag fortifications, security cameras, some additional security lighting, guard booths, and an Internal Defense Notification System.

In the weeks and months leading up to the attacks, the response from post, Embassy Tripoli, and Washington to a deteriorating security situation was inadequate. At the same time, the SMC’s dependence on the armed but poorly skilled Libyan February 17 Martyrs’ Brigade (February 17) militia members and unarmed, locally contracted Blue Mountain Libya (BML) guards for security support was misplaced. At the time of Ambassador Stevens’ visit, February 17 militia members had stopped accompanying Special Mission vehicle movements in protest over salary and working hours.

Post and the Department were well aware of the anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks but at no time were there ever any specific, credible threats against the mission in Benghazi related to the September 11 anniversary.

Ambassador Stevens and Benghazi-based DS agents had taken the anniversary into account and decided to hold all meetings on-compound on September 11.

The Board found that Ambassador Stevens made the decision to travel to Benghazi independently of Washington, per standard practice. Timing for his trip was driven in part by commitments in Tripoli, as well as a staffing gap between principal officers in Benghazi. Plans for the Ambassador’s trip provided for minimal close protection security support and were not shared thoroughly with the Embassy’s country team, who were not fully aware of planned movements off compound. The Ambassador did not see a direct threat of an attack of this nature and scale on the U.S. Mission in the overall negative trendline of security incidents from spring to summer 2012. His status as the leading U.S. government advocate on Libya policy, and his expertise on Benghazi in particular, caused Washington to give unusual deference to his judgments.

3. Notwithstanding the proper implementation of security systems and procedures and remarkable heroism shown by American personnel, those systems and the Libyan response fell short in the face of a series of attacks that began with the sudden penetration of the Special Mission compound by dozens of armed attackers.

The Board found the responses by both the BML guards and February 17 to be inadequate. The Board’s inquiry found little evidence that the armed February 17 guards offered any meaningful defense of the SMC, or succeeded in summoning a February 17 militia presence to assist expeditiously.

The Board determined that U.S. personnel on the ground in Benghazi performed with courage and readiness to risk their lives to protect their colleagues, in a near impossible situation. The Board members believe every possible effort was made to rescue and recover Ambassador Stevens and Sean Smith.
The interagency response was timely and appropriate, but there simply was not enough time for armed U.S. military assets to have made a difference.

4. The Board found that intelligence provided no immediate, specific tactical warning of the September 11 attacks. Known gaps existed in the intelligence community’s understanding of extremist militias in Libya and the potential threat they posed to U.S. interests, although some threats were known to exist.

5. The Board found that certain senior State Department officials within two bureaus demonstrated a lack of proactive leadership and management ability in their responses to security concerns posed by Special Mission Benghazi, given the deteriorating threat environment and the lack of reliable host government protection. However, the Board did not find reasonable cause to determine

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Oct 27 at 2015 4:52 PM

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What seems to get lost in all of this is there weren't many bosses doing anything right. So if they still have jobs, then I expect the same level of incompetence in the system to allow other tragedies to occur. There's a great number of people in the Intel, security, State, etc. that are great but demoralized by the growing cancer of Dumb A political appointees who do everything but put the country and its citizens first. We get to decide next year how much that will continue.