Here's a simple question to ascertain how informed & in what direction my military is going. Who would make a better CinC, Trump or Clinton?

MSG John Hill — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:52:42 -0400

Response by Col Rebecca Lorraine made Aug 3 at 2016 6:56 PM

Col Rebecca Lorraine — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 18:56:53 -0400

Unfortunately, Clinton. She at least has matured and knows what's involved with being a president.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 7:00 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:00:45 -0400

Although I'm a conservative, I think Clinton would be a better CinC. Trump is just too unpredictable. We need a steady hand at the helm of our military forces. I think Clinton has the steadier hand of the two.

Response by SGT Damaso V Santana made Aug 3 at 2016 7:02 PM

SGT Damaso V Santana — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:02:31 -0400

Neither one, Trump...is Trump. The other one has precedents which makes her as dangerous to our security as the worst of our enemies, IMHO.

Response by SFC Richard Giles made Aug 3 at 2016 7:02 PM

SFC Richard Giles — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:02:41 -0400

I really don't know what answer to give. In my opinion it wouldn't be her. I just think she would tear the military to pieces, sure she has experience but as we all know that's not going to cut it all the time. There's just to much out there about what she has or hasn't done for our military that for me it's almost scary to think of her as CinC. And with Trump I don't think anybody knows but I think a lot of people are hoping that he would be better then her.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 7:05 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:05:29 -0400

I think Clinton would, regardless of whether one is a liberal or a conservative, simply on the basis of her not being willfully ignorant of current issues and intentionally offensive to broad swaths of the American population.

Trump has campaigned on juvenile schoolyard name-calling, blatant racism, Islamophobia, homophobia, misogyny and hate-speech while giving almost no details on any potential policies other than that they will be "great" or "terrific".

Trump is simply not qualified to lead.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 3 at 2016 7:08 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:08:17 -0400

What did she do as SOS that was successful, everything she did turned out bad for the USA and the countries she stuck her snoot into? Then there is this:

http://humanevents.com/2006/12/21/bill-clinton-and-the-decline-of-the-military/

Need more?

Bill Clinton and the Decline of the Military | Human Events

President Bush has officially put a stake into the heart of the “peace dividend”—all that money we were going to save because the Cold Wa

Response by PO1 John Miller made Aug 3 at 2016 7:19 PM

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:19:57 -0400

IMHO, Trump. He is a megalomaniac and a liar, but he is not a criminal whereas Clinton IS a criminal who belongs in prison.

Response by SFC Everett Oliver made Aug 3 at 2016 8:05 PM

SFC Everett Oliver — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:05:39 -0400

The view of the military from here looks pretty dim. But to answer your question I don't like either one of them as CinC. Clinton would finish off destroying the military. I'm not sure what Trump would do and that worries me. I can only hope that Trump is elected and he gets and listens to some good advisors.....

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Aug 3 at 2016 8:13 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:13:56 -0400

HRC has played a major role in the Arab spring Holiday of blood. Plus, causing the Islamic invasion of Europe.
I suspect, her statement on the Libyan Col.'s murder is an indication of her willingness to push the global agenda of 7 regions. A North American Union looms with her.
Trump, not so much.
M. Morris RVT

Response by Sgt Christopher Cooper made Aug 3 at 2016 8:27 PM

Sgt Christopher Cooper — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:27:22 -0400

I'm inclined to say it's a tie, they both lose. If I'm forced to pick a name, I'll go with Trump. Main reason being that the Clintons have ALWAYS hated the Military. Clinton was the first president since Carter to close down military installations and try to shrink the military presence. I've only been out of the military since 2010, and I still have a lot of friends, and more importantly, Marines I helped train. I'm not willing to put them under the "leadership" of someone like Clinton.

When it comes to Trump, the only thing I know for sure about him regarding the military is that he voices consistent support for them, which I understand, doesn't mean much unless there's action to give those words legs. I've got family and friends who were in the military under Clinton, and most of them said that when he would come to ships and installations, he looked as though he would have rather been anywhere else in the world, and Hillary was worse.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 8:34 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:34:13 -0400

I recognize that Clinton has made some troubling decisions, but she is still far, far more qualified than Trump to be leading the most powerful country in the world. If you don't think so, I urge you to listen to Sam Harris's unbiased analysis of the two:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LVVRw-OTCLw

Sam Harris on Donald Trump vs. Hilary Clinton (June 15 2016)

On his podcast, Sam Harris explains why he is voting for Hilary Clinton and criticizes Trump. This is a section of a longer podcast, which you can listen to ...

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 8:35 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 20:35:55 -0400

As you can see that is not a simple question.

Response by Lt Col Paul Maxwell made Aug 3 at 2016 9:26 PM

Lt Col Paul Maxwell — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:26:17 -0400

At this point, I THINK Clinton. And the question was 'better' not Good. Clinton has quite a reputation for nasty treatment of secret service and military in last White House tenure, but I don't find her as frightening a candidate for CinC as DT.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 9:36 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 21:36:49 -0400

The fact that there is even a debate about who would better run this country is comical. There is no comparison. This past week in the news with what Trump has done and said, and people will still support him? I'm more saddened at the state of this country, and the fact that people are following this man, and allowing him to be their voice. There are no words.

Response by COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM made Aug 3 at 2016 10:35 PM

COL Jason Smallfield, PMP, CFM, CM — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 22:35:09 -0400

Simple answer; do your own homework on each candidate, do your own analysis, make a decision on whom to support, and then vote for that person. Do not rely upon others to do the homework, analysis or decision for you.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2016 11:47 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 03 Aug 2016 23:47:38 -0400

Clinton.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 12:28 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 00:28:28 -0400

MSG John Hill I gave you a thumbs up but I hate you for making me think. If I get a migraine, I'm blaming you.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 5:11 AM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 05:11:23 -0400

The title of this question insinuates that you are looking for peoples opinions on who would be a better CIC. However, from the responses given to their opinions, the statement might as well have been "TRUMP for president! Whose with me?" Also, because someone chooses to vote for Hillary Clinton does not mean they are misinformed. It means that their interests or views differ from those who vote for Trump, vice versa. It goes both ways. I indeed believe they are both hopeless and plan on rallying to get a nomination for Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson started.

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 5:38 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 05:38:43 -0400

It's a question that's been asked several times before, with only a few words changed each time to then ask the same, exact question. Scores of recorded comments indicate that half those responding are brain-dead automatons. The other half faired little better!!!

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Aug 4 at 2016 5:49 AM

SFC Kenneth Hunnell — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 05:49:49 -0400

Is there a option C

Response by SGT David T. made Aug 4 at 2016 8:06 AM

SGT David T. — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 08:06:59 -0400

Honestly, neither one. It boils down to which flaws one is willing to live with. On one hand, Trump is an unknown element as he has never served in politics before. We have no idea how he actually would be. Assuming that his behavior patterns follow the same lines as his campaign, we can end up biting off more than we can chew. Or attempting to leverage economic factors when military action would be more appropriate.

Clinton on the other hand is known. She voted in favor of the Iraq War despite the common understanding that fighting a multiple front war is a very bad idea. She holds up the intervention in Libya as a good thing, but that has caused some negative 2nd and 3rd order effects. One thing that puts me off about her is her inability to accept responsibility for things that happened on her watch. As the head of a major government agency, she was responsible for everything that happened or failed to happen within that department. A good leader accepts responsibility for the bad things that happen even if they are not directly at fault. Her inability to safeguard classified information is also a concern.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 4 at 2016 10:42 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 10:42:28 -0400

Neither one, Clinton is too self-absorbed and Trump is too callous. I believe A Veteran would make a more level-headed CinC.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 12:59 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:59:26 -0400

Neville Chamberlain or Ramsey Bolton?
No thanks.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 1:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:17:57 -0400

Clinton by far.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 1:26 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:26:10 -0400

Upon further review, indulge me in a more detailed, if subjective analysis using the seven Army Values.

Loyalty - edge Clinton
She has quite a legion of accolytes that will do anything for her, and by all accounts she helps her disciples with their endeavors through the Clinton Foundation and political network. She gets a lot of credit for sticking by Bill for all those years.
Trump is on marriage number three, and is notorious for firing those who displease him. To his credit, he also has many testimonials from those that have received support from him as well.

Duty - edge Trump
Trump can be accused of a lot of things, but hands-off is not one of them. He works as hard as anyone to make his companies better and more profitable. By all accounts, he works long hours to get work done.
Clinton gets credit for being a good Soldier and joining Obama's team as SecState after losing the nomination fight. How diligent she was as SecState is pretty questionable, though.

Respect - edge Clinton
Clinton is no saint here, but Trump is off the chain on this

Selfless-Service - edge none
HA! Yeah right.

Honor - edge Trump
Trump is no saint here, either, but Clinton... oh, my.

Integrity - Trump, hands down.
Trump has his issues, but Hillary is a lying liar that tells lies about whether she told lies or not. She is without moral compass, at all.

Personal Courage - edge none
I don't think either of them would know what this was if it bit them in the face.
Hillary of "I dodged sniper fire" fame or Trump of "military school is pretty much the same as serving in the military" quotation (paraphrased). Granted, there are many forms of personal courage, but I don't think either have demonstrated it. Taking risks does not count.

So I get Trump by a 3-2-2 margin.
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Aug 4 at 2016 4:33 PM

SMSgt Thor Merich — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 16:33:39 -0400

The current direction of the military is a direct result of the current Administration. With Clinton, the that downward spiral of the past 8 years with still continue. At least with Trump, there is hope that he will change the direction of the military.
Clinton is a proven liar, has major credibility issues, and continually puts her own needs before anyone or anything else. Based on her past, I know that she will be a horrible CinC.
At least with Trump, based on what we know so far, there is hope that he will be a good CinC.

So, I have to go with Trump.

Response by SFC Thomas Butler made Aug 4 at 2016 6:26 PM

SFC Thomas Butler — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 18:26:21 -0400

And you're the one who decides what the correct answer is? Give me a break.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2016 7:10 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 04 Aug 2016 19:10:37 -0400

I don't want either of them.

Response by PO1 Trevor Comstock made Aug 5 at 2016 3:23 AM

PO1 Trevor Comstock — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:23:17 -0400

Johnson / Weld

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Aug 5 at 2016 8:59 AM

MSgt Wayne Morris — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 08:59:25 -0400

Like choosing between the clap or cholera, neither a wise choice.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2016 9:43 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:43:11 -0400

Neither. Given the choice of someone who hasn't figured out how to think before speaking or someone void of integrity, I'll choose C.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 5 at 2016 11:13 AM

CPT Jack Durish — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:13:04 -0400

Yes, Clinton has experience, all bad. I'd far rather take my chances on a blank slate

Response by SSG Delanda Hunt made Aug 5 at 2016 11:25 AM

SSG Delanda Hunt — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:25:49 -0400

Both are equally worthless

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Aug 5 at 2016 11:59 AM

SSG Drew Cook — Fri, 05 Aug 2016 11:59:48 -0400

I say think long and remember the greatest leader you ever served under. Now compare and contrast. There is your answer.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 11 at 2016 12:10 PM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Thu, 11 Aug 2016 12:10:33 -0400

For me, once You have lied I no longer trust You.

Response by PO2 Joseph Fast made Aug 23 at 2016 1:04 PM

PO2 Joseph Fast — Tue, 23 Aug 2016 13:04:43 -0400

That's hard to say, her husband gave China technology we shouldn't have given them which increased their offensive capabilities against us....... and we've seen how careless she is with critical sensitive information. I know nothing about how well Trump would be so I don't know where to put him on the line.

Response by MAJ Patrick Ross made Aug 29 at 2016 3:36 PM

MAJ Patrick Ross — Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:36:06 -0400

To decide who you support, OnTheIssues.org is a fairly accurate, non-partisan site regarding each candidate on the issues. As to your specific question, neither IMO qualify. If you look at the Ethics Regulations regarding Federal Employment you will see the issues with HC. DT comment that he knows more than x on every issue shows he will not listen to advisers. There is no one person who has held Command that knows everything, that is why they have full staffs. Yes, a Commander makes the final decision, but a good leader listens before deciding and doesn't surround themselves with yes people. There is a third option, which I admit, I prefer. But you have to make your own decisions.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 29 at 2016 3:43 PM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Mon, 29 Aug 2016 15:43:59 -0400

It would be nice to have Veteran/President instead of the garbage being offered.