Posted on Dec 4, 2021
Has anyone gotten out around that halfway mark and regretted it? Do you have any advice, tips, or constructive criticism?
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currently on the fence on whether or not I should re-enlist this next go around. Come January I will be at 10 years and I’m scheduled to ETS February 2023. I’m not sure if I should re-enlist which will put me indefinite or just get out and be a police officer. I have the option of going drill sergeant this February. Would love to go to Benning as a drill and then stay TRADOC after a 3 year drill tour. Maybe become a black hat at airborne school since I’m also jumpmaster.
Has anyone gotten out around that halfway mark and regretted it?
Currently 30 years old. SSG. 19D with 10 years TIS in January. Not really concerned with “hurting” my career progression by going from drill to another position like black hat. Hell if I could I’d ride out my contract in tradoc and away from the line.
Any advice, tips, and or constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.
Has anyone gotten out around that halfway mark and regretted it?
Currently 30 years old. SSG. 19D with 10 years TIS in January. Not really concerned with “hurting” my career progression by going from drill to another position like black hat. Hell if I could I’d ride out my contract in tradoc and away from the line.
Any advice, tips, and or constructive criticism would be greatly appreciated.
Posted 3 y ago
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Just a few things to consider before making a hard decision... I have two friends who got out around their 10-11 year mark. One absolutely loves the choice and never looked back. The other regrets it daily and wishes he had stayed in.
Best advice I can offer is to consider what is best for YOU and your family. If having a more stable home life, time with the children, career change, etc appears to be the best, then I would say pull the eject handle and enjoy the ride. You also mentioned possibly becoming a police officer. From personal experience, if that is what you have your heart set on, it's probably best to punch out now to pursue that career option. I tried at 38yo after retiring from active duty but every department I spoke with told me I was beyond their 35yo cut off line and none offered age exemptions for military.
Staying to retirement has its advantages as well. It's a guaranteed check every month plus you'll have access to TRICARE health insurance (such as it is). If you do go the Drill SGT route, that also could open up more opportunities down the road. The added experience as a supervisor/manager will often be looked upon favorably by potential employers.
Best advice I can offer is to consider what is best for YOU and your family. If having a more stable home life, time with the children, career change, etc appears to be the best, then I would say pull the eject handle and enjoy the ride. You also mentioned possibly becoming a police officer. From personal experience, if that is what you have your heart set on, it's probably best to punch out now to pursue that career option. I tried at 38yo after retiring from active duty but every department I spoke with told me I was beyond their 35yo cut off line and none offered age exemptions for military.
Staying to retirement has its advantages as well. It's a guaranteed check every month plus you'll have access to TRICARE health insurance (such as it is). If you do go the Drill SGT route, that also could open up more opportunities down the road. The added experience as a supervisor/manager will often be looked upon favorably by potential employers.
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TSgt Carl Johnson
The only thing that I would add to that is that many departments have started to give waivers on the age limits to veterans because of age-discrimination lawsuits. Shortly after I left law enforcement in 2003, I read about some jurisdictions that had lost age-discrimination lawsuits brought on by retired veterans (one was a Marine, I believe), but I have slept since then and can provide no further details.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
TSgt Carl Johnson - That would be awesome if they have started granting waivers. It's about 10 years to late for me but hopefully it helps the next troop coming along.
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I got out at six years, was out for six and went back active. When I hit 10 years, I faced a med-board and fought to stay in so I could finish my 20 years and then retire. Staying in tradoc for 10 years will be a hard feat to achieve, especially as a 19D. Going drill will never "hurt" your career if you are planning to stay NCO. That little badge will always be a separator on senior NCO boards. In the end, if getting out is the best choice for you and your family, get out and make the best of your life. When you look at the financials, make sure you compare things equally. Don't just look at base pay vs entry level pay for PD, but factor in all those things you get such as BAH and BAS. Those increase your standard of living but are sometimes left out of pay comparisons. Good luck to you!
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SSG (Join to see)
All very great points. Thank you for the feedback. I know if I was giving myself advice I’d say don’t be dumb and stay in you’re halfway there. Maybe I should just listen to myself.
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Cpl Vic Burk
SSG (Join to see) - I think you sort of answered your own question there SSG. Getting out at forty years old with a retirement for the rest of your life? You're not too old to pursue you police career. Retire at 60 - 65 with another retirement plus social security wouldn't be a bad deal. I started a new career in my forties as a math teacher. It can be done! My guess is you will be kicking yourself in ten years if you don't stay in. Best of luck to you whatever you decide. Things work out for the best in the end generally.
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SSG Ritchie,
I never arbitrarily say "stay in your half way". I firmly believe that all of us have to make the best decisions for ourselves, and our families. I do always say never make the decision based on emotions, such as I hate this duty station or my CO sucks. Those things always change. I am sure that you have enough time in that you have seen some great leaders and some not so great and some that just suck! 26 years in and I had goods and bads until the day I retired. After my break in service, my main goal was getting the retirement. That was my motivator. Not to get rich and sit on my butt for the rest of my life, but just enough to guarantee a place to live and a vehicle to drive, I can work for the rest. I say, evaluate the situation from all perspectives and make the decision that will be the most beneficial for you and your family.
I never arbitrarily say "stay in your half way". I firmly believe that all of us have to make the best decisions for ourselves, and our families. I do always say never make the decision based on emotions, such as I hate this duty station or my CO sucks. Those things always change. I am sure that you have enough time in that you have seen some great leaders and some not so great and some that just suck! 26 years in and I had goods and bads until the day I retired. After my break in service, my main goal was getting the retirement. That was my motivator. Not to get rich and sit on my butt for the rest of my life, but just enough to guarantee a place to live and a vehicle to drive, I can work for the rest. I say, evaluate the situation from all perspectives and make the decision that will be the most beneficial for you and your family.
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I finished up drill sergeant duty in early 1991 as Desert/Shield-Storm was wrapping up. Three months later, I was selected for recruiting and was in a station in September 1991. Drill Sgt duty was great but recruiting was horrible for me. I didn’t have the “personality” and I wasn’t in a “walk-in” station. Anyway, I was at the 11-12 year point in my career at the time and hated recruiting so much that I tried to take the early out twice but was denied each time. When I left recruiting, I came out on the SFC list so I’m glad I didn’t get out. I was a 44B/44E (metalworker/machinist). I retired in 2000 with 20 years and 1 day due to the financial aspects of half my base pay was mine whether I went to work the next day or not. Since retiring at 38, I was young enough to go to college and eventually obtain a masters degree and am closely approaching the end of a second career (2-5 years) with another good retirement. So, one a month for the last 21.5 years, I get a nice reminder from the Army that has increased substantially over the years thanks to COLAs.
Just think through all the reasons to stay in with the retirement starting at a young age. If you get a really good opportunity soon that you can hang your hat on and sleep well at nights, do what’s best for you and your family.
Just think through all the reasons to stay in with the retirement starting at a young age. If you get a really good opportunity soon that you can hang your hat on and sleep well at nights, do what’s best for you and your family.
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