Have you read The Secret ISIS Safe Havens Nobody Wants You to Know About?

COL Mikel J. Burroughs — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:16:15 -0400

Have you read The Secret ISIS Safe Havens Nobody Wants You to Know About?

RP Members very controversial article by … by Gordon Duff, VT Editor … with New Eastern Outlook, Moscow Your thoughts do you agree or disagree?

Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War that has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades and consulted with governments challenged by security issues. He’s a senior editor and chairman of the board of Veterans Today, especially for the online magazine “New Eastern Outlook”.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/23/the-secret-isis-safe-havens-nobody-wants-you-to-know-about/

Remember, it is American law that makes everyone involved in supporting terrorism subject to non-judicial killing.

[ Editor’s Note: This article was written during the Syria trip that we just got back from last weekend. Although we will not be able to write about most of our discussions other than with the Grand Mufti, the refugee situation, the war and the continued backing of ISIS by many Western players were all major concerns.

A game changer approach is needed to get out of the phony War on Terror paradigm that we are all trapped in now, running around in circles and getting nowhere, as that was someone’s objective.

Gordon has gone back in history, further than the Bush (43) doctrine that “we will hunt down and get all those supporting terrorism wherever they are”, back to the Vietnam war where he was blooded… Jim W. Dean ]

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– First published … September 23, 2015 –

Basically, here is the plan using American strategic and legal precedents:

At the outset, a No Fly Zone has to be established over Israel until ISIS run air facilities can be put out of action. It can be safely assumed that any air traffic over Israel may be terrorist, perhaps including airliners which can be stuffed with bio weapons or nuclear waste from Dimona.

A string of lighting attacks, over a period of two to three years, will be needed to degrade the terror infrastructure inside Turkey. Chemical weapons facilities, training camps, air bases, all need to be taken out before ISIS can be beaten.

Terror camps and command centers in Jordan will require the heaviest munitions as some are deeply hidden underground including those inside the new Saudi Arabian “embassy” complex outside Amman.

Rendition teams will be hitting auction houses, banks, boardrooms and newspaper offices around the world, ferreting out terror supporters, just as the US had done after 9/11.

There are dozens of NGOs (Non-Governmental Organizations) like the Syrian Human Rights Observatory in London which operates public relations for ISIS and dozens of others, some operating as refugee aid fronts that traffic in jihadists, human slavery and narcotics. All must be brought to justice.

America has to be given credit for using some of the greatest legal minds the world has seen, bringing them together, all members of the noted Federalist Society, and putting together the laws that will bring ISIS to its knees.

That America, though poor judgement, kidnapped and assassinated almost entirely innocent people under these provisions is unfortunate. Perhaps others will do better.

The Secret ISIS Safe Havens Nobody Wants You to Know About

Gordon Duff - More high tech weaponry paid for by the American taxpayer was flown into a US Air Force Base in Adana, Turkey. From there it was trucked to an ISIS/al-Nusra logistics facility run by the Turkish Army.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Sep 26 at 2015 1:18 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:18:38 -0400

No I had not heard about Secret ISIS Safe Havens COL Mikel J. Burroughs.
If they were actually secret we wouldn't know anything about them :-)
However I suspect counter-terrorism assets would.

Response by COL Ted Mc made Sep 26 at 2015 1:39 PM

COL Ted Mc — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:39:27 -0400

COL Mikel J. Burroughs - Mikel; I sort of drifted off when I found out that the Israelis were supporting ISIS.

The Iranians may say that they want to eliminate the COUNTRY of Israel (knowing full well that that isn't likely to be even remotely feasible), but the ISIS fanatics want to KILL THE JEWS (and will actually attempt to do it).

I sort of thought that the Israeli government knew that. Silly me.

PS - By "logical extension" of the author's postulates, any person (American or non-American) who works for any company that has anything whatsoever to do with anything even remotely connected with terrorism can be "legally" killed by the American government WITHOUT TRIAL (and if a few "innocent" people get killed in the process, well, that's regrettable but these things do happen).

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Sep 26 at 2015 1:50 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 13:50:16 -0400

This reads like a conspiracy theory. That's not to say it couldn't be true, but articles such as this always contain just enough truth be raise at least some doubt. Sadly, I'm inclined to read further than I might once have inasmuch as I have so little trust in the good intentions of this Administration. Thus, I waste a lot more time these days...

Response by PO1 John Miller made Sep 26 at 2015 11:28 PM

PO1 John Miller — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 23:28:27 -0400

Thanks for sharing. Although like CPT Jack Durish stated, I feel the need to do some further research before I believe this story at face value.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2015 1:26 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 01:26:29 -0400

I am extremely skeptical about most of the information provided in this article, one aspect i do agree with is that these conflicts are far more complex than we have been led to believe and the best thing we could do would be to simply stay out of them.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Sep 28 at 2015 11:21 AM

CW4 Guy Butler — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:21:51 -0400

Awesome.

Went reading around the site, found this nugget, also from Duff:

"While in Syria, in a meeting with the highest level security official, not “a” high level official, Syria confirmed the VT story that it was hit with a nuclear weapon in May 2013.

The United States was totally aware that Israel had used a tactical nuclear weapon on Syria and still, for over two more years continued the farce about the Iranian nuclear threat. This is sickening."

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/09/26/duff-back-alive/

Then there's this under politics:

http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2015/09/19/521739-the-republican-candidates-just-cant-quit-neoconservatism/

Makes for an interesting little site...

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2015 11:50 AM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 11:50:29 -0400

lol so that they will come back and kill them too? lol wait ... aren't we doing that too ....