Has there ever been a Presidential candidate as disliked by the general military population as Hillary Clinton?

2016-08-05T23:01:15-04:00

This is an honest question. I haven't found a single Hillary supporter who is currently serving in the military. When it comes to military approval I can't say I can recall a single candidate who was as disliked. Have there been any Presidential candidates that you can recall who had such an outstanding disapproval rating as Hillary Clinton?

Response by SGT Damaso V Santana made Aug 5 at 2016 11:03 PM

2016-08-05T23:03:36-04:00

Was this picture after the Libyan "Arab Spring", some demented look.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2016 11:22 PM

2016-08-05T23:22:36-04:00

I know two military people who will vote for HRC, I won't give their names out because they are brothers and have truly earned their right to vote. However, that doesn't stop me from teasing them at work, on the phone, on FB and email...
I am not aware of any presidential candidate that carries the baggage that HRC does. However this entire election reminds me of Idiocracy.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 5 at 2016 11:53 PM

2016-08-05T23:53:08-04:00

There's a few here on RP. I'm sure they'll be happy to disabuse you of your assumption. Not many. Just a few

Response by PO1 Brian Carlson made Aug 5 at 2016 11:58 PM

2016-08-05T23:58:47-04:00

Hillary has earned all the hate and discontent that comes her way. She cannot be trusted. She lied about the classified material on her e-mail server. She lied to the FBI. She lied to the State Department. And worst of all, she lied to the American people. Hillary lies so much that I think she is beginning to believe her own lies.

Response by Capt Seid Waddell made Aug 6 at 2016 12:07 AM

2016-08-06T00:07:51-04:00

Jimmy Carter?

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 2:16 AM

2016-08-06T02:16:41-04:00

During my initial emlistment (1999) all the Soldiers hated President Clinton. Right now almost 25 percent seem to be okay with Hillary.

Response by SGM Barry Kindred made Aug 6 at 2016 2:28 AM

2016-08-06T02:28:09-04:00

Nope

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Aug 6 at 2016 3:16 AM

2016-08-06T03:16:46-04:00

You will like who you like, adn you will not like who you don't like. The problem with this question is you're asking it on social media. That isn't so bad UNTIL the herd mentality pops up, and where one or 30 or 100000 like her, are all beaten down for their beliefs. I could say I like her....by this time tomorrow, I'll be every name in the book include racist names, no matter what facts I could use to justify my decision, they're incorrect being Trump is the savior of the US. If YOU like her, man that is ALL that matters. The hell with the rest. You are a grown ass man and entitled to your opinion, and if the herd doesn't like it, ask them to pay your bills, whoop your ass, and take care of your kids. If none of that is possible, they can all kiss your ass twice. I'm not saying this to be a tough guy. Really I'm not, but I'm tired of when I make a pick that i like, i have to justify to another man why, and I really am sick of it. I can't stand either one, nope....even that isn't good enough. You pick who the hell you want, hold to your guns, and make that pic the best pic that represents you and your family. I can tell you beyond a doubt, many on here will not be at you door to help you if the pic is wrong.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 3:18 AM

2016-08-06T03:18:14-04:00

I am honestly afraid of who the next Commander-in-chief will be. Either way is tragic.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 3:55 AM

2016-08-06T03:55:27-04:00

I am a Hillary supporter and am currently serving in the military. There, now you've found one.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 4:04 AM

2016-08-06T04:04:58-04:00

The next POTUS will fill up to four Supreme Court vacancies. Trump has already released his list and they are religious conservatives one and all, vetted by th Heritage Foundadtion and the House Freedom Caucus (the Tea Party). I will not under any circumstance vote for anyone who will stack the court with legions conservatives as that would set a socially repressive tone in the country for that 30 or 40 years.

I would vote for a can of spoiled tuna befor I voted for Donald Trump. If he does quit and thGOP pushes someone else I won't vote for THAT candidate either, as Supreme Court picks are THE most important issue of 2016, and I will do anything to keep another Scalia, let alone four more of them o not the court.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 6 at 2016 6:18 AM

2016-08-06T06:18:48-04:00

I know of one. but I don't make it a habit of talking to everyone about their politics.

Response by Capt Michael Greene made Aug 6 at 2016 6:23 AM

2016-08-06T06:23:39-04:00

It's unpopular in the military to express a pro-liberal opinion or to express support for Democrats. I've heard generals and lower commanders express anti-liberal views, so that pretty much tells the liberal service members that they need to stay in hiding. But they are there.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Aug 6 at 2016 7:24 AM

2016-08-06T07:24:07-04:00

ENS Private RallyPoint Member I also know a few who have expressed that they will indeed vote in that direction. This is a freedom for all to participate in the election process.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Aug 6 at 2016 7:39 AM

2016-08-06T07:39:56-04:00

I trust Hillary like I trust a rattle snake, not as far as I can toss a 54,000 lb. tractor.

Response by SSG Mark Franzen made Aug 6 at 2016 9:32 AM

2016-08-06T09:32:39-04:00

I think Trump should be evaluated for he first belittled John McCain for being captured and than changing his
Mind then endorsing him. And then trying to say that there was a plane carrying all the money to Iran but
It wasn't it was the Hostages in to Switzerland from Iran so is that type of Person that you would trust with the
Country?

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Aug 6 at 2016 10:20 AM

2016-08-06T10:20:28-04:00

Yes, Nixon and his offense was political and didn't have the track record of death and destruction Hillary does.

Response by Cpl Rc Layne made Aug 6 at 2016 10:39 AM

2016-08-06T10:39:48-04:00

Her husband?

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 6 at 2016 10:43 AM

2016-08-06T10:43:05-04:00

Clinton currently commands 24% of the military vote, while Trump gets 51%. The rest are undecided, but BOTH candidates are viewed as deeply flawed.

Response by SSgt Paul Esquibel made Aug 6 at 2016 10:45 AM

2016-08-06T10:45:04-04:00

Well if you look at trends in general between the two parties you will see that most democrats view the military as one of two things: 1. Social Experiment 2. A way to cut taxes. vs republicans generally speaking increase the military size and compensation. So if we look at just parties alone, most people are probably going to vote republican or 3rd party if they are well informed and have dealt directly with cut backs or social experiments they disagree with. Now with this election you had good folks that were running on both sides but our corrupt political system made to where you now have to choose between the lesser of two evils when neither one has a positive track record of supporting the military in terms of finances, size ect.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Aug 6 at 2016 12:53 PM

2016-08-06T12:53:15-04:00

She wouldn't appease to the military community anyway. One is because Democratic values are usually not pro-military spending, and the second biggest reasons is due to the fact that the military community is but a small percentage of the voting population. Not worth trying to sway the military to her side when they don't like her anyway.

I'm not active duty but my support would go to Hillary for personal (selfish) reasons, and Gary for ethical reasons. We'll see how it goes as the election gets closer.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 7 at 2016 8:02 AM

2016-08-07T08:02:34-04:00

I start by saying I'm not going to vote for either of these two idiots. ...but I'll stay on topic for a moment. You say you haven't met a military member who will support Hillary over Trump?? Ask anyone to describe both of their interactions with the military and it's clear one candidate will continue the military on our path, and one will destroy us...

One candidate has no record of any accomplishment toward military or veterans. This candadidats proposes isolationist foreign policy goals which will deplete the need for a military (ie deplete funding). This candadidats has actually advocated for other countries to step up their nuclear arsenal. (My pro mask won't save me for long). This candidate wants to pull all troops out of the pacific- the worlds emerging economies and threats are in the pacific, if we run now, we lose our foot up). One has blatantly disrespected POWs, families of our fallen brothers, and fraudulently denied funds promised for veteran organizations.

The other candidate has a long list of interactions with the military:
-1st NY Senator to serve on the Senate Armed Services Committee
-Increased military survivor benefit from $12,000 to $100,000... Yes, that is something we all hold important. $100,000 above SGLI
-Sponsored Heroes at Home Act, help families get medical treatment for returning Soldiers with traumatic brain injuries
-co sponsored the Support for Injured Servicemembers Act
-Fought as a NY Senator to keep open the Niagara Falls Air Base and - instead of closing & losing 800 local jobs - increased the number of civilian and military jobs needed at the base
-proposed increase funding to VA and NY's veteran organizations for increased medical care
-worked with Sen Lindsey Graham (Republican) to together come up with a plan to get Reservist & National Guardsmen the ability to enroll themselves & dependents in full Tricare
-As Sec of State, pushed for increased drone strikes- stopping excessive boots on the ground but still accomplishing missions (Ghadaffi elimination)
-at State Dept, sat on the council that managed the Bin Laden assassination
-brokered temporary peace deal between Israel & Hamas (creating a year of less violence and U.S. involvement than any in more than a decade)
-She convinced Obama to finally listen to Generals running Afhganistan who did not want to cut sling load but instead wanted a transition out of there

As I said, I won't vote for either of these ass clowns... But it's not because of their records for the military... If that's all that mattered, it would be a no brainer

Response by Sgt Ramon Nacanaynay made Aug 7 at 2016 12:59 PM

2016-08-07T12:59:22-04:00

It depends on who or what you pay attention to. and who or what you consider to be creditable,

Response by SGT Bruce King made Aug 7 at 2016 1:34 PM

2016-08-07T13:34:22-04:00

She disrespects Military , Law Enforcement, and her own security details.

Response by 1LT William Clardy made Aug 7 at 2016 11:37 PM

2016-08-07T23:37:03-04:00

Are you old enough to remember a certain Jimmy somebody? I don't know how disliked he was as a candidate, but as CinC he definitely did more to arouse disdain among the military than Ms. Clinton has done (at least so far).

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 8 at 2016 12:20 AM

2016-08-08T00:20:42-04:00

Osamabama!!!

Response by MSgt Wayne Morris made Aug 8 at 2016 6:48 AM

2016-08-08T06:48:09-04:00

I cannot think of a candidate more loathed but as a President, Carter was pretty much disliked by the military at the time as it was a tough 4 years with him at the helm. I am finding out that there are many that dislike both candidates and are wondering if this is the best we can do. I don't think I can hold my nose and vote for either.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Aug 8 at 2016 12:57 PM

2016-08-08T12:57:42-04:00

It is beyond me, how someone in the military can support her. Yet again, the military is not fully comprised of ass kicking Americans ready to deliver violence on our nation's behalf. There is your small percentage.

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2016-08-08T14:22:05-04:00

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Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Aug 8 at 2016 2:59 PM

2016-08-08T14:59:45-04:00

You are not looking very far at all dude. I could give you about 20 right now and I am an old retired guy.

Response by SGT Eliyahu Rooff made Aug 8 at 2016 6:03 PM

2016-08-08T18:03:31-04:00

If I might make a tangential observation on the discussion here, I'm disturbed by the tendency of some posters, most of whom seem to be Trump supporters, to use name-calling and abuse in place of rhetoric. It brings me back to my high school debate class, where the teacher addressed this problem. In essence, his point was that if you have to resort to abusing the other party in a debate, it generally means that none of the facts are in your favor and you've already lost the debate. Name-calling is a particularly ineffective tool if you're hoping to get the other person to change his mind or agree with you, as it has much more of a tendency to harden their position. It's also a bit like responding to an enemy that has already left the battlefield by angrily emptying your magazine in their general direction. All you've done is waste supplies and show that you have a lack of self-control.

Response by SFC Thomas Butler made Aug 8 at 2016 6:29 PM

2016-08-08T18:29:40-04:00

Yes. Donald Trump

Response by MSgt John McGowan made Aug 8 at 2016 10:27 PM

2016-08-08T22:27:09-04:00

PO2, As much as i dislike Hillary and until she came along as a candidate. Well I have to put LBJ #2. But now Hillary makes LBJ look like a farm boy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 9 at 2016 7:36 AM

2016-08-09T07:36:09-04:00

I do like Hillary Clinton; she is the best qualified candidate right now. so OP, you think all military supports that racist, brainless trump?

Response by SCPO David Lockwood made Aug 9 at 2016 1:07 PM

2016-08-09T13:07:05-04:00

My biggest problem with her is that she refuses to take responsibility for her actions. She seems to point fingers and provide excuses as to why things happen on her watch. Trump has a big mouth and has thin skin who cannot take harsh criticism. This years presidential election is probably the most troubling in history and the entire world is looking at the U.S. and laughing. We are supposed to be setting a strong example and yet we look like a bunch of buffoons. God help us.

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Aug 23 at 2016 5:15 PM

2016-08-23T17:15:15-04:00

I think we'll never know without some kind of consistent polling data from previous administrations (I'd be surprised if this existed). Anything else would be a subjective perception. However, I'd be curious about some historical situations where, based on our current values, one would think the military would dislike their civilian leadership:

- Did the military dislike Lincoln for imposing the first draft?
- How did the military view Wilson for allowing generals to continue their campaign in WWI which resulted in over 3,500 KIA on Nov 11, 1918?
- How did the military view Hoover and WWI veterans after the Bonus Army demonstrations?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 28 at 2016 11:39 AM

2016-08-28T11:39:01-04:00

George McGovern.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 28 at 2016 11:41 AM

2016-08-28T11:41:32-04:00

Richard Nixon was highly disliked. Or, should I say, Richard Nixon was a hard man to like. I suspect that the problem came from a personality defect that caused him to think that no one liked him. (I can relate) Hillary is quite the opposite. She acts as though everyone should like her (even though she appears not to like others). Ultimately, Hillary's biggest problem is her sense of entitlement. She would look perfectly at home in a ghetto collecting welfare payment for a large brood of children (except that I've never seen any evidence that she likes children - or dogs).

Response by Cpl Rob Bibber made Sep 1 at 2016 2:07 PM

2016-09-01T14:07:45-04:00

Her husband would come close. He is why I chose not to re-up.