Has the idea of diversity, and the obvious push for this idea, become something more toxic than helpful?

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:38:07 -0400

Diversity has been used a lot lately in order to subject businesses and schools to different initiatives and rules. Diversity is also the primary aim of programs such as affirmative action. But has this simple idea of creating populations within organizations that include as many "different types" of people doing more harm than good? What are your personal opinions of the push for diversity?

Response by SFC William Farrell made Nov 2 at 2017 12:39 AM

SFC William Farrell — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:39:04 -0400

Thanks for the share SGT Joseph Gunderson

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Nov 2 at 2017 12:41 AM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:41:41 -0400

Yes. Instead if all cultures poured into a melting pot, all cultures are celebrated as equally good.
That is New Age perversity to divide a nation.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 12:54 AM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:54:24 -0400

Forced diversity is what causes conflict between the divisions. There needs to be a period of assimilation to allow people to become comfortable with each other.

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Nov 2 at 2017 1:06 AM

SGT Jim Ramge, MBA — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 01:06:09 -0400

I believe affirmative action has outlived its usefulness. It was an excellent program, but it’s time has passed...

Response by SPC Anthony Schepis made Nov 2 at 2017 4:39 AM

SPC Anthony Schepis — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 04:39:16 -0400

Problem with diversity is liberals created a system based off race rather than qualifications. The anti Ameircanism spreading in this country will be the destruction of diversity.

Response by SSG Jessica Bautista made Nov 2 at 2017 5:56 AM

SSG Jessica Bautista — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 05:56:55 -0400

There's a reason white men have held onto power for all of American history. Left to our own devices, humans will mostly choose what is familiar to them. It's why groups tend to self-segregate. Affirmative action, contrary to popular belief, benefits white women disproportionately, but negative attitude towards it is primarily aimed at ethnic minorities. It's easy to blame "others" for society's ills because no one wants to admit that they contribute to the problem.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 6:27 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:27:10 -0400

SGT Joseph Gunderson- In my experience, diversity is a way to group people from various backgrounds but they have the same identical thought process. So- in the end they are not diverse at all.

Response by SSG Alan Pelletier made Nov 2 at 2017 6:49 AM

SSG Alan Pelletier — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 06:49:51 -0400

I think there is a level of pure evil behind all these "programs" and ideas. Anything that destroys humanity and pushes unreality respect of the Earth and secular cultures can only be sinister in nature. COL Mikel J. Burroughs

Response by LTC Kevin B. made Nov 2 at 2017 7:26 AM

LTC Kevin B. — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:26:41 -0400

The "primary aim of programs such as affirmative action" is ending adverse behavior ("discrimination"), not with creating some sort of a desired population ("diversity"). If the behavior would go away, programs like affirmative action wouldn't be necessary. I don't have a problem with the push for diversity. However, I do take issue with the level of diversity sought, depending on the situation. I think that the level of diversity should be based on your surrounding population, much more so than the overall population. Diversity in Salt Lake City looks quite different than diversity in New York City. Organizations in Utah should look similar to their surrounding community (from which they draw employees), but that's not the same as trying to create an environment in SLC that looks just like NYC.

Response by MSgt Neil Greenfield made Nov 2 at 2017 7:44 AM

MSgt Neil Greenfield — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:44:44 -0400

It was a lack of diversity that enabled the National Socialist German Workers' Party, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, to operate from February 1920 to its final conclusion in October 1945.

Response by CPT Lawrence Cable made Nov 2 at 2017 7:46 AM

CPT Lawrence Cable — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 07:46:38 -0400

Cpt. Cable gets on his soapbox.
There is absolutely no inherent advantage of diversity for diversities sake. When you look at countries around the world that have highly diverse populations/cultures/races, very few are peaceful. The assumption of diversity is that all cultures are equal, and the is decidedly an untrue statement. What has happened is that the Classical Liberal values of fairness and tolerance have somehow degenerated into an Ideal that different is better, and again that statement is not true. The odd thing about it is that Progressives in the US have traditionally held up the Western European countries as the height of enlightenment, yet most have homogenous populations and cultures and generally same religions. We see that disintegrating with the massive influx of Muslim men, Islam being a religion/culture/government that directly conflicts with Classical Western Values. The fact that modern education blows when it comes to teaching Western Culture and it glorifies those belief system outside of that culture.

Response by SSgt Darreld Walton made Nov 2 at 2017 8:40 AM

SSgt Darreld Walton — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 08:40:07 -0400

IT IS NOT THE US MILITARY'S MISSION TO BE LAB RATS FOR SOCIAL EXPERIMENTS!!!!!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2017 9:28 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:28:35 -0400

By trying to legislate equality and "create" rights for certain groups, you're only creating further inequality and taking rights away from others.

Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Nov 2 at 2017 9:53 AM

Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:53:28 -0400

The problem with diversity is that too many people focus on race and use race and diversity interchangeably. Diversity is much more than that. It is mixing races, people from the North/East/South/West, Short and tall, fat and thin, cultures, religions and various other beliefs, male and female, young and old and so on and so on. All of the demographics are what makes people who they are. When I married, I was from South Mississippi my wife was from North Mississippi. Although we are both Caucasian, our backgrounds and the way we were raised could not be more different. We merged our lives and backgrounds and our marriage works because we both brought something different to the marriage from the way foods are prepared to rearing of children and numerous other things. Small example but I hope it gets the point across. When we stop focusing on including just races and fully understand diversity and what each individual brings to the fight and how it can really and truly make us better, because no one has a monopoly on life, then will it work.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Nov 2 at 2017 10:42 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 10:42:21 -0400

It seems that we have crossed from wanting diversity to represent mixing all cultures to diversity taking control of the culture. I have worked with many cultures, in the old days, they wanted to be Americans and strived to be Americans born in other countries. They only asked for the chance to succeed, pray to their own religion and be American. Moslems would pray quietly out side on their breaks or maybe in the cubes and you respected their time. Now it seems the diversity groups DEMAND things, special payer rooms which quite often were not available to other religions, special diets instead of eating Vegan, special holidays, and always with the threat of lawsuits. They apparently refuse any and all attempts to assimilate into the American culture. Even to the point of trying to bring their old nation's laws into America.

Response by SrA Edward Vong made Nov 2 at 2017 1:31 PM

SrA Edward Vong — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 13:31:07 -0400

But companies that push diversity (including mine) are successful. We also keep in mind that diversity to us is not race, it's overall background and uniqueness.

Example: We just interviewed someone who met the credentials to work on my team (I'm one of the hiring managers), but I chose not to hire him because he was vanilla (not attributed to race). There was nothing that stood out about him. It was a unanimous no from the whole team.

Response by MSG Floyd Williams made Nov 2 at 2017 6:44 PM

MSG Floyd Williams — Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:44:00 -0400

Yes, diversity can work in organizations placing those who are qualified, diversity will fall in place instead of worrying about achieving quotas.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Apr 10 at 2018 11:22 AM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:22:12 -0400

It appears to have weaken the unity of the country. More emphasis on being different than being an American. We were always diverse- different races, religions, beliefs- but the bottom line was everyone thought of themselves at Americans 1st, and their past history second. Now it seems to have been reversed- Black American, Latin American, etc.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 16 at 2018 8:24 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Wed, 16 May 2018 20:24:46 -0400

It is bad to a degree- they have pushed it so hard that unity is threatened. We worry more about what "group" we are in , than being in a United States of America.

Response by Capt Edward Egan made May 10 at 2021 2:17 PM

Capt Edward Egan — Mon, 10 May 2021 14:17:23 -0400

Diversity for the sake of diversity is like adding water to your gas tank.