CH (MAJ) William Beaver 1092457 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-67091"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhas-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Has+Ben+Carson+admitted+to+stolen+valor%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhas-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHas Ben Carson admitted to stolen valor?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/has-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="eba6bbae62da90f943c39a81875643ed" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/067/091/for_gallery_v2/67cfff7.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/067/091/large_v3/67cfff7.jpeg" alt="67cfff7" /></a></div></div>Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.<br /><br />Read more: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjeb8IC9">http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjeb8IC9</a><br /><br />Has Ben Carson committed stolen valor? How will this admission affect his campaign? Has Ben Carson admitted to stolen valor? 2015-11-06T13:00:25-05:00 CH (MAJ) William Beaver 1092457 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-67091"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhas-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=Has+Ben+Carson+admitted+to+stolen+valor%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fhas-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AHas Ben Carson admitted to stolen valor?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/has-ben-carson-admitted-to-stolen-valor" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="6128eaca7fd5666bfcda53159c41ff4c" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/067/091/for_gallery_v2/67cfff7.jpeg"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/067/091/large_v3/67cfff7.jpeg" alt="67cfff7" /></a></div></div>Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.<br /><br />Read more: <a target="_blank" href="http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjeb8IC9">http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598#ixzz3qjeb8IC9</a><br /><br />Has Ben Carson committed stolen valor? How will this admission affect his campaign? Has Ben Carson admitted to stolen valor? 2015-11-06T13:00:25-05:00 2015-11-06T13:00:25-05:00 CH (MAJ) William Beaver 1092458 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Will this sink his campaign? Response by CH (MAJ) William Beaver made Nov 6 at 2015 1:01 PM 2015-11-06T13:01:00-05:00 2015-11-06T13:01:00-05:00 1SG Private RallyPoint Member 1092465 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That can&#39;t be good for his campaign, or at least I wouldn&#39;t think. Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2015 1:03 PM 2015-11-06T13:03:46-05:00 2015-11-06T13:03:46-05:00 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member 1092474 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Really, that sucks. (-10) influence points to Ben Carson Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2015 1:07 PM 2015-11-06T13:07:58-05:00 2015-11-06T13:07:58-05:00 PO3 Private RallyPoint Member 1092485 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>STOLEN VALOR? .... hmmm..... Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2015 1:11 PM 2015-11-06T13:11:31-05:00 2015-11-06T13:11:31-05:00 PVT Robert Gresham 1092490 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="588083" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/588083-ch-maj-william-beaver">CH (MAJ) William Beaver</a> Absolutely Stolen Valor !! Trying to get something by falsifying the facts about your involvement with the US Military system? This matter, along with his &quot;youthful indiscretions&quot;, trying to stab a family member, and going after his mother with a hammer, tend to indicate a person who is perhaps not as stable as he would have us believe. Dr. Carson&#39;s work as a surgeon may qualify him for the post of Surgeon General......but his now TOTAL lack of Military experience leaves me questioning his suitability to be our Commander-in-Chief. Response by PVT Robert Gresham made Nov 6 at 2015 1:14 PM 2015-11-06T13:14:42-05:00 2015-11-06T13:14:42-05:00 SSG Warren Swan 1092754 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The spin his campaign is putting out, is only putting off some who would&#39;ve voted for him. At the same time, while I think this is complete BS on his part, and an unessicary lie, there isn&#39;t a politician out there who is telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. I wonder what Grumpy Cat has to say about this? Response by SSG Warren Swan made Nov 6 at 2015 2:54 PM 2015-11-06T14:54:16-05:00 2015-11-06T14:54:16-05:00 LTC Trent Klug 1092785 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Not defending Carson but ain't it amazing that all of a sudden the left care so much about Stolen Valor. <br /><br />To me, the left will play this just like Abu Ghraib on the front pages of all the major media outlets. His campaign is dead. <br /><br />For the record I wasn't a supporter. Response by LTC Trent Klug made Nov 6 at 2015 3:08 PM 2015-11-06T15:08:17-05:00 2015-11-06T15:08:17-05:00 Capt Private RallyPoint Member 1092850 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Here is another take on this. <br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_content">http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_content</a><br /><br />I am not saying this is any more or less true then the lead story. But, to me it does make some sense. <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/028/094/qrc/ben_carson_speech_ap.jpg?1446842308"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.dailywire.com/news/960/no-ben-carson-didnt-lie-about-west-point-its-ben-shapiro?utm_source=facebook&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_content">No, Ben Carson Didn&#39;t Lie About West Point. It&#39;s Another Media Hit Job.</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Never underestimate the capacity of the media to propagandize against Republicans. That’s the theme of this morning’s overwrought news coverage on Dr. Ben Carson’s supposed “lie” regarding a “scholarship” to West Point. The story began with Politico, which ran with the audacious headline, “Ben Carson admits fabricating West Point scholarship.” Even I was taken in by the headline – after all, that’s a pretty bold claim! Politico began thusly:</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2015 3:39 PM 2015-11-06T15:39:17-05:00 2015-11-06T15:39:17-05:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 1092894 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Valor? there is no &quot;valor&quot; by being associated with West Point. Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 6 at 2015 4:08 PM 2015-11-06T16:08:11-05:00 2015-11-06T16:08:11-05:00 1SG Nick Baker 1092916 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I do not know. But, I do know not to trust the media. Many defend Obama, but not Carson. I wonder if a minority can be Republican president, like Dr. ML King, George W Carver, Fredrick Douglas, Booker T Washington, Colin Powell, ...? Not a word of negativity on Carson until he became a threat. Is Carson getting the same treatment running as Obama did? I think not. Response by 1SG Nick Baker made Nov 6 at 2015 4:23 PM 2015-11-06T16:23:10-05:00 2015-11-06T16:23:10-05:00 CAPT Tom Bersson 1093019 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It's disappointing. I'm sure they will try to put a spin on it, but ethics and being able to stand up for your mistakes are traits that we need. Response by CAPT Tom Bersson made Nov 6 at 2015 5:19 PM 2015-11-06T17:19:40-05:00 2015-11-06T17:19:40-05:00 SSG Robert Webster 1093097 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My question for all of the naysayers and Stolen Valor judges, up to this point - Have you been a JROTC Instructor? If not I would suggest that you research the appropriate regulations and do the research as Gabriel Malor in the article referenced by <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="561128" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/561128-5521b-civil-engineering-officer">Capt Private RallyPoint Member</a> did. Now take a look at AR 145-2 and the past advertising material from the USMA itself. Take a look at Chapter 5 of the regulation that I have cited where the Senior ROTC Scholarship and military academy appointment information is. Next place yourself in the position of that Instructor and try to explain to a teenager and their parents about the possibility of having their college education paid for. Then borrow, buy or obtain the book about Ben Carson and read for yourself what is stated in the book. Just because something is not in exact chronological order does not make a statement a lie or fabrication. For those of us that are getting up in the older age brackets, do you think that you will get every part of your own story correct in chronological order? I am quite positive that everything that Dr. Carson stated is correct, but not in the way that everyone makes it out to be. Now make your decision if this qualifies as a case of Stolen Valor, a lie, a fabrication, or something else. Sadly this will have an effect his campaign.<br /><br />And for those of you that would question my outlook, please look at my profile. I was a JROTC Instructor for 3 years, while on Active Duty. I also assisted my students who qualified with making their scholarship and military academy requests. One item to note: Each JROTC unit that is an "Honor Unit with Distinction" may appoint up to 5 students to the Military Academies, however out of that significant pool of appointments only 20 will be accepted to the USMA in any given year. The other Military Academies have similar policies, except for the Coast Guard Academy and the Merchant Marine Academy. The Coast Guard Academy has neither a nomination or appointment requirement. The Merchant Marine Academy takes ONLY Congressional nominees or appointees. Response by SSG Robert Webster made Nov 6 at 2015 6:09 PM 2015-11-06T18:09:37-05:00 2015-11-06T18:09:37-05:00 MSgt Curtis Ellis 1093335 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>O_O<br /><br />Well... At least he admits it, so he get's an "A"... For now...<br />Besides, he will probably be punished far worse than HRC...<br />Am I right??? LMAO!!! Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Nov 6 at 2015 9:29 PM 2015-11-06T21:29:09-05:00 2015-11-06T21:29:09-05:00 PO2 Peter Klein 1093388 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Stolen stupidity! Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Nov 6 at 2015 10:18 PM 2015-11-06T22:18:37-05:00 2015-11-06T22:18:37-05:00 PO1 John Miller 1093543 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><br />Firstly welcome back Chaps, it&#39;s been a while!<br /><br />Secondly, yeah unfortunately for the good doctor it&#39;s Stolen Valor. But... at least he admits it and is trying to move on. Response by PO1 John Miller made Nov 7 at 2015 12:42 AM 2015-11-07T00:42:25-05:00 2015-11-07T00:42:25-05:00 SCPO Joshua I 1093804 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Bottom line, the politico story you quote is a lie. Response by SCPO Joshua I made Nov 7 at 2015 8:32 AM 2015-11-07T08:32:04-05:00 2015-11-07T08:32:04-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 1095368 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>he has no business running for president, American citizens need to wake up, he is a doctor with no political experience !!! Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2015 12:35 PM 2015-11-08T12:35:55-05:00 2015-11-08T12:35:55-05:00 PO3 Private RallyPoint Member 1095486 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Well ... it turn out to be fabricated by politico ... Prime example of bias media again. Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 8 at 2015 2:02 PM 2015-11-08T14:02:42-05:00 2015-11-08T14:02:42-05:00 MAJ Alvin B. 1095798 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, I do not believe he is. How has Valor been stolen. Is being accepted to West Point, any other Military Academy, or Officer pre-commissioning program in and of itself a valorous act? Personally, I do not think it is. Response by MAJ Alvin B. made Nov 8 at 2015 5:45 PM 2015-11-08T17:45:00-05:00 2015-11-08T17:45:00-05:00 MSgt John Carroll 1095869 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This is NOT Stolen Valor. In fact, it isn't even close. If you think it is, read the definition of the law and then get back to me. Response by MSgt John Carroll made Nov 8 at 2015 6:28 PM 2015-11-08T18:28:57-05:00 2015-11-08T18:28:57-05:00 MSgt Greg Webster 1107769 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This story is BS. If I had a dime for every time a civilian friend mentioned that he/she had a "Scholarship" to a military academy I would be rich. Civilians don't understand that although you attend tuition free, it's not a scholarship. I truly believe at his age back then, he believed he was getting a scholarship. Response by MSgt Greg Webster made Nov 14 at 2015 1:39 AM 2015-11-14T01:39:51-05:00 2015-11-14T01:39:51-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1111230 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, if you confuse offer with admission, then yes, and if you keep believing the partisan Politico, then is yes in all the counts. I am quite certain that you are looking the other way when it comes to Hillary Confidential documents handling, which in my point of view are type of things we should be looking at presidential candidates. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 12:43 PM 2015-11-16T12:43:39-05:00 2015-11-16T12:43:39-05:00 MSgt James Mullis 1111252 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The article and especially it's initial and corrected titles are crafted to give the average American skimmer (someone who does not read the whole story) a false impression. Therefore they are personal attacks on Ben Carson loosely veiled as journalism. Response by MSgt James Mullis made Nov 16 at 2015 12:49 PM 2015-11-16T12:49:45-05:00 2015-11-16T12:49:45-05:00 SPC Dave Crites 1111485 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm pissed. Is there anything we can do about these wanna be solders. Trying to solicit money as VETS??? Response by SPC Dave Crites made Nov 16 at 2015 2:02 PM 2015-11-16T14:02:28-05:00 2015-11-16T14:02:28-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 1112551 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No, his campaign never admitted to any fabrication. There is literally no basis for the claim that they "admitted" any fabrication whatsoever. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 16 at 2015 9:53 PM 2015-11-16T21:53:54-05:00 2015-11-16T21:53:54-05:00 CPO Chris Kellar 1121466 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>This needs to be removed, this is not a case of Stolen Valor... He never said he applied or was accepted to West Point. Response by CPO Chris Kellar made Nov 20 at 2015 10:54 AM 2015-11-20T10:54:41-05:00 2015-11-20T10:54:41-05:00 A1C Kyle Freeman 2750622 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Why lie Response by A1C Kyle Freeman made Jul 20 at 2017 6:58 PM 2017-07-20T18:58:35-04:00 2017-07-20T18:58:35-04:00 2015-11-06T13:00:25-05:00